#34 (let's just call him "Tubby") and #42 (headband cutting off circulation to the brain) are the coach's hired goons. There's no question that they do this with the coach's blessing. All three of them should be banned from high school sports, permanently.
#34 was obviously causing all the fouls and they even switched him out for an even bigger kid I still dont condone having a ridiculous video complaining about it
1) I thought the only unarguable flagrant fouls were #'s 3 and 5. 2) #34 just doesn't seem real talented 3) Where's the red team's coach in all this? By cheap shot #5, if I'm the red team's coach, I am screaming at the ref's about #34. And if the refs aren't doing anything, I am screaming at white team's coach. Either way I am sending this tape to the state athletic association.
+Bill T anything that #34 does is flagrant #2 looks like red stepped outta bounce first real close ref was in better view but still no need for the hug and was #4 a moving pick? but yes i agree with you on your 2&3 statements
I agree. The only flagrant fouls I see are #3 and #5. With that said, given the totality of the game, #34 and #42 (I think) lost the benefit of the doubt they may have had, but then again, #34 isn't around after #3 to lose any benefit of the doubt, he already lost it.
See this is where you need that teammate that will go get in the paint let 34 cover him call for ball and rip around with a vicious fucking elbow lol. 34 is just a fat unathletic fuck hitting people lol not playing basketball
Guarantee this was the highlight of 34s life. Legend has it he has five pending criminal cases and has 70 percent of his check going to various child support agencies...but on Fridays he gets to belly up to his hometown bar and relive these glory days.
+Dave S non of the above happen number one why would they arrest him number two they wouldnt suspend him hes obviously on the team for a reason number three who on the read team could beat him up
gary lemon Thanks. I'm sure none of the above happened...thus the use of the words "I hope". Why would they arrest him? Just the use of hyperbole on my part...but maybe assualt & battery ? As for your last part, I haven't seen whose on the RED team's bench, have you?
well then if red does have bigger kids that the coaches fault for not playing em when white has theirs on the court next assault and battery ha your talkin bout someone beating this kids ass isnt that assault as well besides the fact of placing kids under arrest for assault and battery is just like our society today pussy as fuck
Man every team got that one bulk you be careful with. Maybe your coach gotta tell him to shoot outside and go big vs big at the rim. Also the ref kept his cool like he wasn’t worried about losing control of the game and props to some those young men taking blows like that.
Brian Ash They can't be considered intentional or excessive because most of those were a play on the ball. It seems alot worse when a kid of his size is committing the foul but if it were a much smaller kid you would probably have a different view
i agree if the big guy on white looked shocked after the fouls were committed its just him being clumsy but every time he walked off with a grin on his face so he knew what he was doing trough it
Other than foul #6, those were all flagrant fouls. #34 definitely didn't get cheated on his five fouls. The kid and the coach should've been suspended for at least a game. The refs should also be suspended for a game. It was their fault that the game got so out of hand.
First of all this is from the same game. Not sure if I'm missing something there, but you don't know if they can call flagrant fouls. This isn't the NBA it's a high school game.
These are bad because he's going after the player and not the ball also in hockey you have pads there is no protecting players who also don't jump in hockey so it's more dangerous in basketball if a player is going after the other player while said players in the air
This is amazing. I'm glad it finally got out to the public that the refs in the SCAC suck. Despite this footage being from 2011, the refs are still terrible in all of our sports.
The 3rd and 5th ones were definitely flagrant or even technical-level fouls, the 3rd due to contact to the head and the 5th because the guy didnt even make a play on the ball. The rest were called correctly. Boys games are physical and should be, get the kids in the weight room so that way they can handle playing with the big boys and less time with their backs on the floor.
People commented these were not flagrant. Review #1 and #3. When a defender hits a player with full force, with his elbow, making no real attempt to get the ball and drives the player to the floor hard it is a flagrant foul. Note also, he hits the head in #3 and follows through with both hits, does not attempt to re-direct his arm at any point during the motion. Fouls #2 and #4 were really just pushing. In particular, #4 was just a lazy player pushing from behind. Foul #5 should have been the tipping point for these refs. That was clearly a grab to the head and then the pull + push to drive the player downward to the floor. White #34 hooks the arm and his hand then grabs the face. He then pushes the player down and you can see he is almost able to bring his other arm into the player to get more impulse to the throwdown. There was NO attempt to get the ball and clearly no acknowledgement of the foul by #34. That, #5 foul, was truly a dangerous play with high risk for injury and real potential for serious injury. A player who is thrown to the floor on their back in that situation has little if any opportunity to break the fall. This was the worst of the bunch and should have resulted in a much more serious call. Not sure if these are shown in the order they were committed during the game, but if they were, the refs should have taken more action earlier, after #1 and #3 for sure. Foul #5 was a serious problem. Foul #6, assuming it came after #5 should have been more than enough to get action from the ref. Again, no effort to go for the ball and the elbow and arm to the head of the other player. Refs should have called a bench foul first to see if the coach responds. If it continues, both players should have been ejected. This is not the NBA or even college. At the pro level players like #34 and #42 would get taken care of in other ways. Most pro and college coaches know how to handle these situations to get the win. Notice that no NBA teams have goons as sloppy as these two.
Dear mr Nicholas Warren, As a basketball player it is quite obvious that you have no clue as to what a Flagrant Foul is. A flagrant foul is classified as an action that is violent/excessive. The only foul that could have been considered flagrant was #5. Even that foul is difficult to consider "excessive" when the person getting the foul call is a brick freakin wall. the slightest tap from a big guy like that can send a little guy flying if he is dumb enough to go head on with a giant. If you are gonna drive to the basket, make sure you: 1. Know how to control your body when you make contact with a defender (yes, people make physical contact in basketball. You arent playing the game right if you don't). 2. You need to be physical if you drive to the basket. Cant expect to stand straight up and walk right into the paint without any problems). Sincerely, Someone who ACTUALLY knows what the fuck they are talking about.
I would just deck number 34 once and for all!
Nah just castrate him. Maybe chop half it off too!
I’m 34 and I fight on l street beefs look me up
So is the basketball team made up of the linebackers of the football team? And number 34 has to be in his 30s.
#34 is just a fat slob
Yeah he’s not a lonebacker shape at all lol. Lunebackers are big because of working out, this guy seems big for…other reasons
Yeah 34 definitely has some city miles on him
Looks like 34 is wearing combat boots, that should have been a sign he came to fight.
The tub of lard would of got laid out real quick. That's a guarantee.
The referees should have been suspended for 5 years for letting this happen .
#34 (let's just call him "Tubby") and #42 (headband cutting off circulation to the brain) are the coach's hired goons. There's no question that they do this with the coach's blessing. All three of them should be banned from high school sports, permanently.
34 looks like he should be collecting Social Security checks!!🤣🤷🏽♀️
# 34 should be ejected from the game
#34 was obviously causing all the fouls and they even switched him out for an even bigger kid
I still dont condone having a ridiculous video complaining about it
Sam Blankenship huh?
If someone hit any of my teammates like that I'd beat the literal shit out of them
34 should be playing football. But then again, that's a contact sport, and he doesn't seem brave enough for that shit.
1) I thought the only unarguable flagrant fouls were #'s 3 and 5.
2) #34 just doesn't seem real talented
3) Where's the red team's coach in all this? By cheap shot #5, if I'm the red team's coach, I am screaming at the ref's about #34. And if the refs aren't doing anything, I am screaming at white team's coach. Either way I am sending this tape to the state athletic association.
Absolutely agreed
+Bill T anything that #34 does is flagrant #2 looks like red stepped outta bounce first real close ref was in better view but still no need for the hug and was #4 a moving pick? but yes i agree with you on your 2&3 statements
I agree. The only flagrant fouls I see are #3 and #5. With that said, given the totality of the game, #34 and #42 (I think) lost the benefit of the doubt they may have had, but then again, #34 isn't around after #3 to lose any benefit of the doubt, he already lost it.
See this is where you need that teammate that will go get in the paint let 34 cover him call for ball and rip around with a vicious fucking elbow lol. 34 is just a fat unathletic fuck hitting people lol not playing basketball
2:59 yeah 34 just tried to break the poor kids neck, no beating around the bush
Guarantee this was the highlight of 34s life. Legend has it he has five pending criminal cases and has 70 percent of his check going to various child support agencies...but on Fridays he gets to belly up to his hometown bar and relive these glory days.
“I had 4 technicals in one game”
Yeah he didn’t seem the least bit remorseful. What a POS
Just because 34 is to fat to jump doesn't mean he can keep fouling the skinny people that are better than him
34 needs to be taken out back 🤷♂️
Fat boy 34 is a freaking punk bully. He wouldn't want to try that with me, I promise you.
Especially 34 needs to be ejected from High School Basketball.
#34 wasn't even playing basketball out there....he was standing around looking for someone on the other team to hurt.
I would’ve went up for a layup and hit 34 with a flying knee
There would have been a fight if they did that to my team lol
nathan hames Alright Flight Reacts
Ya right your team was a bunch of wussies
34's just mad cause he knows he ain't getting KFC after the game like usual
wonder if that 34 can even run up and down the court twice without taking a break lol
These are all cheap shots. Did anyone else notice 34 has on combat boots. He came to fight!!!!!
34 isn’t just his number, it’s also the number of times the cops have been called on him for domestic abuse.
Please tell me that's true. Give me the link to one of them.
Coach should be ashamed.of himself and fired
That's rough #34 white team was too fat for the basketball court. Terrible.
This guy is out there just to get a letter on his jacket
#34 is in the wrong sport obviously!!
#34 and his fucking moonboots are just sad
Big Rig was probably mad he was late for his shift at the gas station.
#34 woulda been eating the five finger death punch If I were playing
34 should have been thrown out and suspended.
If 34 did that to one of my teammates I would've jumped him
The last foul would not have happened had he just made the layup
I feel bad for the soles of #34's shoes.
So happy that number 34 didn't eat anyone.
Quintal Sam you dont look like one to be talking based on your profile pic.
Old Channel based on your profile....oh wait.....
Quintal Sam exactly, You're fat. stop talking.
Old Channel oh my god that's so hurtful how will I ever move on..... :) where's your profile pic then?
Where's my profile pic? Right here, idiot.
When people are falling over left and right, SOMETHING IS UP
The difference between a foul and a flagrant foul is that a flagrant foul might actually be a foul in any other sport.
I love how the guys were missing there shots because they were scared they were gonna get their heads chopped off
number 5 was technically a hold
#34 is in the wrong sport
I bet their football team is amazing 😂
Your probably right. Or all in jail lol
I hope #34 was either arrested, suspended & got a serious ass-whipping after this game. He kinda deserves all 3.
+Dave S non of the above happen number one why would they arrest him number two they wouldnt suspend him hes obviously on the team for a reason number three who on the read team could beat him up
gary lemon Thanks. I'm sure none of the above happened...thus the use of the words "I hope". Why would they arrest him? Just the use of hyperbole on my part...but maybe assualt & battery ? As for your last part, I haven't seen whose on the RED team's bench, have you?
well then if red does have bigger kids that the coaches fault for not playing em when white has theirs on the court next assault and battery ha your talkin bout someone beating this kids ass isnt that assault as well besides the fact of placing kids under arrest for assault and battery is just like our society today pussy as fuck
Chunky just wants to slap the ball hard
Kind of embarrassing that the white team’s coach allowed/condoned/encouraged his players to play like that.
Number 34 should stay at Mcdo where he does less fouls
that "hold" was more like a choke hold
Hell yeah I respect this guy.
Big #34 just wanted some baby back ribs
The Fourth Foul Should Have Been A Technical Foul
I am outraged but I can't even imagine what the 30-50 people that care about this high school basketball team feel about this.
They saw your lack of strength turned to bully status and got you cheap and shows how bad their game is not one athlete on their team
#34 is good at eating
This was only possible because the other team didn't have an "enforcer" lol... Sometimes you gotta give and not just receive ;)
Yes, the less skill the better the enforcer...lol
I would say 5 is the only clear flagrant...
Does anyone else notice that the big kid 34 is wearing boots? Ha if he tries that in Texas he would get a game of "lights out"
The draymond green effect. Cheap shots. Dirty tactics.
Man every team got that one bulk you be careful with. Maybe your coach gotta tell him to shoot outside and go big vs big at the rim. Also the ref kept his cool like he wasn’t worried about losing control of the game and props to some those young men taking blows like that.
Yes, #4 was a "Hold" all he did was hold on to him and he jumped and fell.
Alot of those were not flagrant fouls they were definitely hard fouls but not flagrant.
Damon Bower the coach is probably telling him to do it. Notice he substituted one bouncer for another during foul shots.
Ryan Bower Nearly all of those were excessive/violent. Three were clearly flagrant. All were intentional.
Brian Ash They can't be considered intentional or excessive because most of those were a play on the ball. It seems alot worse when a kid of his size is committing the foul but if it were a much smaller kid you would probably have a different view
Ryan Bower In the plays I'm referring to, he appears to make no effort in going for the ball. That's definitely a judgment call though.
Yes I agree
I'm gonna bet #34 is an offensive lineman. Second one was probably a normal but the rest definitely were flagrant.
Number 34 needs McDonald fries
Only 2 of them were flagrant worthy. The others were just hard fouls. The coach should have benched the chubby one tho
Half of those we're no dirtier them Lampeer back in the day with the pistons.
34 and 42 getting those hands
i agree if the big guy on white looked shocked after the fouls were committed its just him being clumsy but every time he walked off with a grin on his face so he knew what he was doing trough it
One maybe two are flagrant just because they are hard doesn't mean it's a flagrant foul
Other than foul #6, those were all flagrant fouls. #34 definitely didn't get cheated on his five fouls. The kid and the coach should've been suspended for at least a game. The refs should also be suspended for a game. It was their fault that the game got so out of hand.
John Cheney sent in the goon squad
I didn't know SEC officials officiated high school basketball games.
On that 3rd one I would have been fed up and smashed that basketball in his face
people dont realize basketball IS a physical sport. I know some of these were bad,very bad fouls but the first few were not dirty
Why are they boxing?
Hey, could u show that replay in slow mo 1 more time. I didnt see it the 1st 5 times
The refs I had in high school always called touch fouls on our team and wouldn’t call a damn one on the other
34 Must of not had lunch, so he's pissed off
34 looks uncoordinated as hell. 42 looks like a wanna be bully.
What a bunch of thugs!! Kudos to the other team for keeping their heads on straight!
Is this Australian rules basketball?
Wow that's how fight starts.
On Flagrant 4 there should have been two fouls one on 42 for the push but also 34 on red because he had a blocking foul.
How the fuxk they let him play in boxing shoes daf
First of all this is from the same game. Not sure if I'm missing something there, but you don't know if they can call flagrant fouls. This isn't the NBA it's a high school game.
I dont know anything about basketball, but i do know those guys are goons
This should be titled "Dirty Defenders"
In hockey this happens every shift. Idk about basketball but doesn’t seem that bad. probably just because I play hockey.
These are bad because he's going after the player and not the ball also in hockey you have pads there is no protecting players who also don't jump in hockey so it's more dangerous in basketball if a player is going after the other player while said players in the air
Most of the time the kid would run into the much larger kid
#34 is a beast!
This is amazing. I'm glad it finally got out to the public that the refs in the SCAC suck. Despite this footage being from 2011, the refs are still terrible in all of our sports.
The 3rd and 5th ones were definitely flagrant or even technical-level fouls, the 3rd due to contact to the head and the 5th because the guy didnt even make a play on the ball. The rest were called correctly. Boys games are physical and should be, get the kids in the weight room so that way they can handle playing with the big boys and less time with their backs on the floor.
that was not even close to a hold. that was more a football play
34 knows the game well
Are those fucking boots on number 34!?!?!
Now that’s how your supposed to play! Stinkin wussy’s crying....be quiet!
only 3 or 4 of these should have been flagrant but not all of them
Takeout play needed on #34!!
#4 was a travel too
People commented these were not flagrant. Review #1 and #3. When a defender hits a player with full force, with his elbow, making no real attempt to get the ball and drives the player to the floor hard it is a flagrant foul. Note also, he hits the head in #3 and follows through with both hits, does not attempt to re-direct his arm at any point during the motion.
Fouls #2 and #4 were really just pushing. In particular, #4 was just a lazy player pushing from behind.
Foul #5 should have been the tipping point for these refs. That was clearly a grab to the head and then the pull + push to drive the player downward to the floor. White #34 hooks the arm and his hand then grabs the face. He then pushes the player down and you can see he is almost able to bring his other arm into the player to get more impulse to the throwdown. There was NO attempt to get the ball and clearly no acknowledgement of the foul by #34.
That, #5 foul, was truly a dangerous play with high risk for injury and real potential for serious injury. A player who is thrown to the floor on their back in that situation has little if any opportunity to break the fall. This was the worst of the bunch and should have resulted in a much more serious call.
Not sure if these are shown in the order they were committed during the game, but if they were, the refs should have taken more action earlier, after #1 and #3 for sure. Foul #5 was a serious problem.
Foul #6, assuming it came after #5 should have been more than enough to get action from the ref. Again, no effort to go for the ball and the elbow and arm to the head of the other player.
Refs should have called a bench foul first to see if the coach responds. If it continues, both players should have been ejected. This is not the NBA or even college. At the pro level players like #34 and #42 would get taken care of in other ways. Most pro and college coaches know how to handle these situations to get the win. Notice that no NBA teams have goons as sloppy as these two.
Only fouls #3 and #5 could be considered a flagrant!
Dear mr Nicholas Warren,
As a basketball player it is quite obvious that you have no clue as to what a Flagrant Foul is. A flagrant foul is classified as an action that is violent/excessive. The only foul that could have been considered flagrant was #5. Even that foul is difficult to consider "excessive" when the person getting the foul call is a brick freakin wall. the slightest tap from a big guy like that can send a little guy flying if he is dumb enough to go head on with a giant. If you are gonna drive to the basket, make sure you:
1. Know how to control your body when you make contact with a defender (yes, people make physical contact in basketball. You arent playing the game right if you don't).
2. You need to be physical if you drive to the basket. Cant expect to stand straight up and walk right into the paint without any problems).
Sincerely,
Someone who ACTUALLY knows what the fuck they are talking about.