Railway strike: How will Canadians pay the price of a shutdown?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Freight trains across Canada could come to a grinding halt as soon as Thursday, with nearly 10,000 railway employees nearing a looming strike or lockout date.
The union representing thousands of workers at Canadian Pacific Kansas City Ltd. (CPK), says it has served a 72-hour strike notice to the railway.
Meanwhile, CN Rail has issued a notice that it intends to lock workers out at the same time if an agreement or binding agreement isn’t reached.
As Anne Gaviola reports, the federal government is warning that the cost of a railway strike would be “borne by all Canadians.”
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"How will Canadians pay?" Why is it always people who have to make up the cost of what private owners and or the government should be responsible for? Are you not tired of blaming the citizens for the failures of those who's job is to administer the nation?
Very well said . Sad that you are right.
Very. Very well said
Because it’s the transportation of goods and services… it means that your costs go up.
If the liberal media would actually tell you what these people actually get paid, you wouldn’t be so happy about it
@Ont785 you can go on both companies websites and see the average wages of their conductors and engineers. The strike is about work/rest rules moreso than pay. They said that in the video 🙄
@Ont785 The media is not "Liberal" they are all PRIVATE networks which means they are neither libertarian nor social services my dude. WE don't pay for news the news runs itself.
Corporations and the government are grinding the middle class to nothing. Fight back
can't. we're just bots that live one viral video at a time while waiting to check a box every few years.
yep meat in a seat is wot we are if lucky .
We need a strong man leader.
Corporations? Last time I checked, this union gets paid more than almost any other employee across Canada, and they are the ones that are going on strike.
It's getting so hard to survive here in canada, everything is getting exponentially worse, there's not a single positive thing happening, not one
Getting pretty tired of ‘paying the price’ on literally everything i can possibly be gouged on…
CEO makes 14 M year , shareholders take all the profits , employees do all the work , sounds fair to me 😅
Why don't the employees buy up trillions in Capital equipment and start their own railway?
@@larryz1105
Simple. They prefer the convenience of just punching a clock, taking orders and collecting a paycheck.
Don’t forget union leaders who are millionaires
@@jeepstuff4004 - Gerry Diaz was my favorite. Even worked with the Trudeau crime ring.
@@larryz1105 CN would never sell , they profited 9B in 2022 but are to cheap to increase workers standard of living and improve safety , companies want all the profits for themselves , it's called corporate greed and is reason everything is so expensive 🚫 workers wages , FYI
The media says its about pay. Untrue. Its about poor working conditions.
I really dislike the title of this. It's trying to prime us to be angry at the wrong people. If canadians looked into these railway companies even just a little bit, they would be shocked at how bad they are run! It's not the hard workers fault that these companies get to hold all of us hostage.
Start your own freight train company. But CN/CP own the rail tacks, you will need to pay rent to them for your trains.
There nothing but FIRE STARTERS ALONG THE RAIL BAN THEM
You are right, these 2 rail companies are run with pure incompetence and the employees work like slaves, I know I'm one of them
You’re funny…your comment suggests that you know a lot about the running of a railway when in fact it’s the opposite..😂
I bet WEF loves this, part of their agendas
The nerve of those workers! Asking for wages that they can live on. Asking for more money so they can keep up with the ever increasing cost of living. The company needs to profit billions. They can't afford to just go giving some of the massive profits to the workers who actually make it possible. (Yes this is sarcasm)
another hit to the supply chain. another reason for the price of life to go up. and when the strike is over a few months from now. prices are not going to go back down.
It cant last for months . The water treatment plants that supply the drinking water for 95% of Canadians use liquid chlorine , liquid chlorine can only be shipped by rail , most of the plants only have about 2 weeks supply at any given time due to safe storage regulations .
That is just 1 product that is shipped by rail . People dont realize how many things are shipped by rail or what the impact of a strike/lockout would be or what the effects would be or how many ways it would affect every Canadian and how quickly those effects would be felt and how long it takes to reverse those effects . It takes a week to fix/reverse the effects caused by 1 day .
Oh please, these companies are huge billion dollar companies. They can dip into their profits to pay and treat their workers better.
Not really lmao. Got to treat everyone fair and that would grind that spare money down quick. It’s a very very slim margin by the time the money is passed around
@@DivorcedHedgehog Margins don’t matter as much as absolute numbers. So let’s see those numbers. How much was the total net income for CN and for CP last year since it seems like you know?
@dillonforsberg these guys want more rest. Now they can have all the rest they want during the strike/lockout.
@@Opinionatedguy1989 Not sure what happened but my original reply got deleted. Anyways, I said that strikes/lockouts cause short term pain for workers but immense pain for the employer, while netting long term gains for the workers if they hold strong and united. This is how workers hold their employers to account and get a more fair share of the value they help create. Just look at what happened with WestJet AIMs recently.
@@DivorcedHedgehog Also, shall I mention the fact these giant companies have enough money to buy other rail companies and do stock buybacks but apparently paying their employees and treating them better is asking too much?
Wage increases should be at inflation rate by law.
If inflation goes up 10% and wages do not then the company is obviously hosing the workers. Because you know their rates went up.
Government workers get that 😑
How dare these people stand up for themselves...
Rail way workers make a higher than normal wage... Labor and Union greed is driving up inflation.
@@jimputnam2044yeah so do I but I still can't pay my bills
@@jimputnam2044 They make a little more then the average worker. But they also can be away from home for long periods. They can also be on call, witch means they can be asked to come in to work at anytime. So they have to plan their days around possibly having to go to work.Not the kind of requirements that would attract the average worker.
@jimputnam2044 , come throw in your application Jim.
Tell us after a few months how overpaid we are.
What do you do for a living?
You're probably grossly overpaid too I bet?
@@jimputnam2044 you know nothing.
On the table, its mostly rest (railroads are irresponsibly running trains at all hours) and forced movement to other cities/provinces. you're on call 24/7 and its shift work. dangerous job, very dangerous. they arent paid close to enough and havent had much wage increases since the 80s. most workers are broken down by retirement and family separations are the norm
Stop paying upper and middle management so much money then the people that actually do the job can earn more !!!
Ya good luck with that lol
Absolutely!!!!
Good thing we sold these two companies (CN/CP), to the USA over 30 years ago, to think how much money, we would have saved, moving our own products, instead of paying the USA, to move them for us, on their time schedule, while our crops rot in the silos, waiting to be moved, because OIL and GAS has a shorter shelf life in the markets!!!
Don't prices go up when their is a shortage of OIL and GAS, they tend to drop sharply, for food products wasting in silos!!!
And let's not forget the cost of fuel, it's in the USA hands or the repairs to the tracks, caused by overloading the 3 mile trains, leading to derailments, just check their track records, way worse then Canada's records, for repairs!!!
Funny how last year CPKC had the highest paid CEO in the country but now that the employees want a raise they should kick rocks.
That being said, the union is most upset about the loss of previous agreements and safety concerns more than a wage increase.
They were offered a 23.5% raise and a host of other goodies which wasn't enough. Holding Canada hostage for unreasonable demands is becoming a thing unfortunartely.
@checkfactschecking the main concern isn't money buddy. it's the fact that the railway wants to change the entire system that running trades works with. If they take away the work rest rules and hold away pay, they could literally keep workers away for a week at a time without returning home or seeing their families. Thats not what these guys signed up for when they took the job.
How would you like it if your employer changed the nature of your work or could relocate you without your consent
@@alexandercampbell5432 It's the nature of shipping. Truck drivers have those kinds of hours in basically the same job. But let's say it isn't money. If they were given the work rest rules as they wanted, and as compensation given 3% raise instead of nearly 24% would they take it? I bet not.
@checkfactschecking , your facts checking is pretty p*ss poor. We were offered 3% a year over 3 years in exchange for all of our rest provisions.
Try again and come back with facts.
What do you do for a living?
Shall we break that down for all to see?
I'm sure you're grossly overpaid too..
@@ianmark5094 I'm going to try and find the article in my search history. I may owe you an apology. A fresh search in the media confirms what you said, but the original search I made was from the CN website I think. I'll get back to you.
Stop sending money to Ukraine, send Trudeau and Jagmeet 😊
Real problem is the federal Gov. same anywhere
So a billion dollars a day is a crisis but a billion dollars a week for interest on Canada's debt is not worth mentioning.
I think both are pretty important…
It is difficult not to use vile or vulgar words for this union. It is not about rest provisions and revolution of people. THAT’S the job. If you don’t like it quit and let real hard working Canadians do your job. Your strike will hurt all the good Canadian families in this country.
Why is Canada the only country in the G20, that has another country running it's railroads, for higher costs to move our products!!!... How is this benefiting CANADA, someone please explain how this works, because I don't see the benefits!!!
That’s what happens when a federal government sells an asset underneath the taxpayers
I don't think many people know that "Canada' doesn't own the railroads. Try to fix that and get called a communist.
We all are sick of it!!!
Both CN and CP are Canadian companies, Poindexter.
@@antiprogpragmatist859 you should go on the federal governments website and see for yourself???
How are we going to pay? Oh, I don't know, the usual ways? Like higher food prices, higher gas prices...
Educated people with high paying jobs are handling this so I'm not worried one bit.
Just another way for the cost of life will go up again... Here we go again..
Love how govt just blames workers when it's them and corporations who are at fault
Imagine the Canadian government uses the emergencies act and violates peoples rights all the time and yet allows rubbish like this to occur. Maliciously incompetent
Its going to mean an increase in transport trucks (semis) and air freight for places in the major shipping centers. This will offset any "green" initive set by government. Add to that those costs are not the same as sending by rail so there will be an increase. I would think they just name them a vital service and cut out the ability to strike and cripple the transportation of goods
The water treatment plants that supply the drinking water for 95% of Canadians use liquid chlorine , liquid chlorine can only be shipped by rail , most of the plants only have about 2 weeks supply at any given time due to safe storage regulations .
Jagmeet excited about the economy grinding to a halt. Marxism creeps in.
It will be the companies’ faults if this happens, not the workers.
Jagmeet is a capitalist. You need to learn a little before speaking out.
Oh man, I hope so! About time these capitalist sycophants get their up n comin's!
@@dillonforsberg- can't blame the workers. Just trying to keep up with jag and Justin's inflation.
Wage inflation is phase 2 of runaway inflation. Followed by communist wage and price controls.
What's a Jagmeet or you cant spell?
In other news PM Trudeau has found credible allegations that Indian diplomats are negatively impacting Canadian rail system, companies and workers. 😂😂
This is where canada will shift the oh inflation is back up so up goes the rates. Dont be fooled
Fooled by what? We pretty much have no choice but to pay whatever rate they think is appropriate.
@@avsrule247of course but they like to place blame this works for the perfectly to help them do whatever they want
The company shouldn’t be privatized if its this detrimental to the economy. Canada should buy back the company from the share holders and make it a government ran company again.
Stories like this are why Canada needs the CBC. Here's corporate media on the side of corporations.
All they need to do is bring in Back to work Legislation
The average Canadian National Railway salary ranges from approximately $93,688 per year for Conductor to $127,886 per year for Engineer.
Yeah, I’m not gonna cry river over these people.
This strike isn’t about the money, bud
@@spencerk4077
I know I’ve heard it’s about safety concerns…
I’m just curious how you meet those safety concerns.
I think personally there should be zero overtime, and just more staff… Unfortunately, every union I’ve ever dealt with fights for more overtime
@@Ont785CN can’t retain more than about 10% of new hires because the working conditions are terrible. Instead, they want us to pick up the slack and work longer hours, (12hr days instead of 10’s) and spend less time at home on rest.
Our union is definitely not fighting for us to work more overtime. It’s the company that want’s to keep us chained to the throttle, instead of looking into why new hires won’t stick around.
@@spencerk4077
I work 12 hour shifts for 30 years .
It’s not uncommon continental shift .
However, I understand the concerns from the workers in the union, and I’m sure they’ll figure it out .
It may be damaging for the economy at large but I support the strike. No idea why CP thought it was smart to make good profits and then show up to the negotiations with a plan that worsens work conditions and reduce pay
Any chance CN and CP’s stock prices will drop by a lot? I need an entry point! The workers can go ahead to strike as it is in their rights though it will suck for the cost of goods.
They should be essential / emergency services and not allowed to go on strike.
You should be forced to be on call 24/7 and never allowed to question your employer either.
Sounds fair right?
What do you do for a living?
Let's analyze that..
This ain’t Covid times anymore buddy what the hell are you talking about?
@@MrThatnativeguythat's the job, look it up on the company's own websites 😂
This is the beginning of a five-to-eight year hiatus. The consumption of the goods has dropped too low to cover costs.
Pay the wages rail companies or union workers will shut down Canada. Stay strong workers don’t back down
How will canadians pay the price?
Answer:
1:shelves empty within 2 weeks.
2. Gasoline shortage at 3 weeks.
3. Small/ medium business layoffs
4. $1B worth of grain spoiled.
5. Civil unrest, chaos, riots.
This is all on the federal government. When they introduced new legislation and granted a contract extension to CN in 2022 they set the stage for this by allowing both rail companies contracts to expire at the same time. I don't know which MP this falls on but it should have been easy to predict and any law changes should have been introduced at a time to avoid these two contracts coming to an end at the same time. No one is steering this boat with the federal Liberals.
economical collapse is the name of the game ATM same with Mikey/Chicken pox. REAMEMBER 3 MILLION LEFT BY 2030 thats the end Goal.
Canadians need to stop being polite!
Good there fire starters ban them
Leave it to the cheerleaders of capital to fixate on prices, and 'damage to the economy' (whatever that means), yet blatantly disregard the well being of the workers who are constantly being gouged and thrown asunder by wealthy capitalists.
I am confident that Justin Trudeau will fix this problem.
Time for more pipelines
Why not just pay the workers to match inflation in all sectors and no more strikes but what do I know we are all under paid everywhere should go on strike to match these cost
this is what selfish people do, public services personnel shouldn't do such a thing, if they want to protest, they should do that at their leisure times after work. Not in their offices hours. THis is what we called hurting other people to gain benefits for themselves, very bad idea !!
Justin Trudeau will save the day …. No will ruin the country
When truckers will wake up. ???
Strike at KFC, where am I going to have dinner?
Greedy people.
Question??
Is it legal for CPKC /CN to conspire together against workers? Sounds like it is or should be.
I believe there is a potential anti trust or racketeering agreement to be made here. ?
CN Rail WILDCAT strike notice
Well I guess they won't be able to ride the railway which is already quite a big price to pay...
It's pretty clear who the owner class wants to pin this on.
Good work gloebel 👍
strike! can has still blame workers?
Interruption of trade will fuel another round of inflation.
IC Mentioned in the Thumbnail!
It sure hasn't been easy to find Reliable info on whether commuter rail networks will be affected should there be a strike by the union that represents train drivers who work for CN and CPKC (Teamsters). The potential impact on commuter rail starts 1:50 into the video.
Just read a whole bunch of archived articles about how the cons, under sith lord stevo, dealt with similar labor/management disputes.
It was nothing less than you would expect from a bunch of butt-kissing corporate clowns
😂😂😂
Oh little pierre must be dreaming of what he could do right now
😆😆😆
Gee, alluvasudden the TMX expansion doesn't look too bad an idea after all.
Inflation in Canada is down 2.5%
You will own nothing and be happy
well maybe VIA Rail wont be so late during the strike and be on schedule XD
Its all going according to plan.
Lmao… i hear trains every damn day. Yet I pay almost three dollars for a honeybun at the corner store… something is messed up.
Unions should pay attention to why lay offs are often. Business can;t afford higher wages. All this does it drive up inflation which hurts us all. So companies like GM and JD and Ford go to mexico...now no jobs at all people.
you know nothing. this is about work/life balance
On the table, its mostly rest (railroads are irresponsibly running trains at all hours) and forced movement to other cities/provinces. you're on call 24/7 and its shift work. dangerous job, very dangerous. they arent paid close to enough and havent had much wage increases since the 80s. most workers are broken down by retirement and family separations are the norm
@@ktowniecity7269 IWORKED SHIFT ALL MY LIFE IN A TRUCK SHOP. NIGHT SHIFT TO KEEP PRODUCTS MOVING. THATS WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR SO STOP WHINING OR SWITCH PROFESSIONS.
The company that had the highest paid CEO in Canada can't afford to raise wages? Because the bonuses they pay their management says otherwise.
@@alexandercampbell5432 Thats exactly what I said about unions. Top heavy management all with big salaries. The union takes a percent of what you make, so you get a little they get some Stop paying union dues and that is a big raise. JUST SAYING I have been on both sides of the table.
Bring back corporal punishment, apply it to both sides and watch how fast they come to an agreement. A bunch of adult-children on both sides holding Canada hostage.
General strike is what we should be doing. I stand in support of all striking workers. Shut it down. Force change
Typical right-wing talking point and just as stupid. CN rakes in more than enough money. If there's a strike, it's THEIR fault, not the fault of the workers.
Capitalism is destroying the country but socialism as always will save the day!
LOL.
This has Swab and Trudy all over it
thats okay they have 18 wheelers they can deliever as well .....only you need 10,000 per day lol
The water treatment plants that supply drinking water for 95% of Canadians use liquid chlorine , it can only be shipped by rail , most plants only have about 2 weeks supply at any given time due to safe storage regulations .
Even if it could be shipped by transport trucks do you have any idea how many trucks and drivers that would take aside from the fact that no one would want all those trucks filled with liquid chlorine on the roads and that's just 1 of the dangerous chemicals that are shipped by rail every day not to mention all the other products other than chemicals .
People dont realize how many things are shipped by rail or what the impact of a strike/lockout would be or what the effects would be or how many ways it would affect every Canadian and how quickly those effects would be felt and how long it takes to reverse those effects . It takes a week to fix/reverse the effects caused by 1 day .
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USSR in the making. canada lol
strike, pay me more
supply/service disruption
price increase
oh everything is more expensive
strike pay me more
never ending cycle of demand more to buy more, charge more to pay more.
Railway workers are definitely essential. This government is smoking weed...oh right, they are.
By voting Trudeau out of office
And by doing so, voting Trudeau out will do what to the looming rail strike and lockouts??
How be all wage increases in the country go directly to paying off the national debt , once paid off then it can be applied to the workers. That way the unions are really helping everyone.
Label them essential workers and force them back to work. 😊
It's okay. It's time for all the comsumerism to stop anyway.
Most of what shipped on trains not consumer goods but raw materials.
But the sentiment is good. What we need to do is get all the 24/7 running 18 wheelers off the highways or get them their own lanes or something. There is too many the roads cant take it.
@@KayJay940 well, the railway workers are going to have all the rest they want when they are locked out of their jobs.
Fire them all and get immigrant workers