@@ArmandoMorales325 Nah, manual transmissions being phased out by the exotic manufacturers put a premium on the best examples of the 90's/00's, plus GenXers (for whom F40 etc.. were fantasy cars) getting wealthy enough to drive up demand. Population of rich ppl is much larger now, with fewer good examples of manual supercars to be found.
Do more of these look back videos! My 401k went down 30% last year. Kind of feels like similar times. I bought a 2019 GT350. Maybe in ten years it will double in value?
My Grandpa had a subscription to Dupont Registry for the longest time. I would flip through these eating my cereal before early grade school. I would play a game where I would flip the page and pretend I had 5 seconds to pick my favorite car for free. Thanks for bringing back some memories Doug and friend.
I loved DuPont Registry. As a 12 year old I had no idea how much/unattainable any of the listings really were but it was the best magazine for looking at all the different manufacturers/models.
I read an article about Cameron's house from Ferris Bueller a few years ago and it was apparently designed by a well known American architect and the garage was actually designed to be office space and it apparently had a bathroom and a kitchenette in it. The house sat abandoned for many years until someone bought it and added a two storey addition onto the back of the house.
This is such a fun video idea. Reminds me of conversations I have with my dad in the car or at home talking about how ridiculous current prices are. Love these garage videos Doug
@13:00 It was not a crap shoot for the cars that would lose value. People were paying a premium for new Ferrari models like the 599 for $400k. Anyone with sense knew they would drop precipitously in price once the model was replaced. That a few cars barely dipped and then shot to the moon (Carrera GT, Enzo, et al), they were the outliers. I don't think anyone can claim they had foreseen the Ford GT increase.
My favorite example of “if you could’ve done one thing or the other” was in 2003 when I was in college working for a dealer group that had Mercedes-Benz/BMW/Audi franchises all in a row on the same street. At the time our BMW store had a then brand new Titanium Silver Alpina Z8 on the showroom floor for many months, if I recall the MSRP was in the $130-140k range and it’s very possible they would discounted one. Meanwhile at the same time our Mercedes store just started receiving SL55 AMG’s and they were so insanely hot that we sold the first one out of state for $50k over the original MSRP of $125k, so basically a $175k SL55 vs a $130k (or less) BMW Z8……Now that SL55 isn’t even worth half of that $50k ADM, let alone it’s MSRP(!) and I’m assuming a nice Alpina is roughly $275k ish based on a quick search, but at the time the SL55 was the car to have with nearly 500HP and gorgeous hardtop convertible body while the Alpina had already had its glory days and was now just like a 360HP automatic transmission retro car that wasn’t very desirable. I actually watched an SL55 admittedly with some relatively minor cosmetic and mechanical issues sell for $8k at an auction a few years ago 🤦🏻♂️
I was a freshman in high school in 09 but I had some legit cars slip away much after the recession from 2015 to 2018. Could've had an obsidian black aero package c63 black series for $80k, almost bought a jet stream blue c6 zr1 for $56k, and was trying to get financing for a grigio telesto 08 superleggera for $110k. All of those cars are worth $30k-50k more right now... I guess moral of the story is if it's meant to be then you will eventually get your dream car. Maybe the universe has its way of teaching patience to us car peeps!
I think this is a great example of why cars are not good investments. The highest return I heard was 5x but if you bought stocks at the time you earned 6x. Yes you get to enjoy the car but that enjoyment has a cost.
@@emixmim i had the opportunity to buy a euro spec 1986 slant nose turbo black on black for 27k. I begged family and friends for the extra 10k but it sold soon after.
Hey Doug, to your comment about that F40 outperforming all securities and homes… Domino’s Pizza traded for $3 in 2008, it’s currently at $330, for a 110x return on Pizza…!
Neat video, thanks for sharing. The S&P500 in early 2009 was trading around 750, and it recently closed around 4100. If we ignore dividends, and assume a low-cost S&P500 ETF, the average investor would have achieved a return of ~5.5x on every dollar invested since early 2009. In other words, the gain in value for most of the supercars mentioned in this video is well below what the average person could have accomplished if they'd just bought a low-cost ETF (especially since large assets -- whether they're art, cars, or collections -- carry additional costs of insurance, storage, and maintenance).
This has more to do with the time period before "monthly payment bros" with exotic cars...where you actually had to be able to afford the car AND the maintenance, not just a lease for 2 years
Money was cheap why wouldn’t you. If I pay 2m over 4years at some absurdly low rate and Biden/kamala keep funding wars across the world in 2y the 1m I owe is worth like 13% less.
My family goes to the Ferrari of Fort Lauderdale every year to simply check out what they have on offer. My father had just sold his 69 Daytona for big chunk of change and I vividly remember seeing this F40 with my brother, begging my dad to at least take it for a test drive. He ended up with a Pantera and a Lotus esprit because he wanted to help my sister with her education. My sister got an art history degree and doesn't work now... We are all mad at her to say the least lol
This is cool to see, but AAPL stock was less than 9 bucks in 2009 and now it is 150. That was real monet maker and lower entry price and less risk at the time IMO.
Got a stack of DuPont Registry (amongst MT, RT, Automobile, CAR, etc.) magazines from the 90s and very early 2000s in a crate in my garage … definitely great days of dreaming and learning about everything in those publications.
Used to read DR back in high school in the bathroom. It was like a porno mag for me, looking at Porsche 993s, Ferrari F355s, and Lamborghini Diablos as well as learning about lesser known cars, like the Panoz Esperante (it was created by the inventor of the transdermal patch, did you know that?). I wish I kept my issues, it would be nice to revisit a time you could get air cooled Porsches for reasonable prices.
Yeah people tend to forget about inflation lol unless they're looking at something 50+ years old where the price difference is SUPER obvious, triggering them to realise.
I remember seeing an ad on autorader for a red F50 listed for $500K during great recession. Was listed low due to a death in the family as per ad. I knew it was a steal but had no money. In 2016 I wanted to buy a nice low mile R34 but wife vetoed it. Prices were around $50-80K. 4 years later bought one costing more than double those prices but it doubled since I bought mine so it is never too late on certain limited number cars.
Doug's comment on Veyron made me think... in all his years with cars who are the biggest crooks he has come across? Expensive cars and questionable people have a way of finding each other.
I still think the XJ220 is one of the most undervalued cars ever. It’s iconic, insanely rare, and beautiful. Over 4 times more F40s were made than XJ220s and F40s are worth 4 times the amount of an XJ220. I get that the F40 is more famous, but I don’t think the price difference should be this much.
People who bought an XJ220 were originally expecting it to have a V8 and were pissed off when it came with a V6 so they actually cancelled their orders.
I was in Newport Autosport (now Ferrari of Newport Beach) in July of 1999 and they had an Ameritech imported Mclaren F1 and were asking $999,999.00. That takes the cake.
I LOVED this video Doug, I hope to see this return again. Fun fact, I recently bought a 1975 car value guide for old and collectible cars and Aston Martin db5s were apparently $5k
The craziest deals I saw during the recession: 2005 Ford GT black 20k miles for 80k in 2009, car was in Fontana. '67 Camaro SS 396 manual restored in the 90's for 27k in 2010, car was in Rancho Cucamonga. Ferrari 328GTS with 76k miles on BBS wheels with stock wheels included, red on black, needed timing belt and clutch very soon, $8500 as a divorce sale in 2008. Car was in Pittsburg.
Some of my favorites from Hemmings Motor News back issues from 2001: 1984 Lambo Countach, wht/wht, 25k miles, good driver - $45,000. ‘89 Anniversary Countach, white, $75,000. 1988 Lambo LM002, only 9k miles - $55,000. 1981 Ferrari 512BB Boxer, Carbureted, grey/black, 17k mi - $57,500. 1980 BMW M1, White, 25k mi -$69,500. Ferrari F40’s at $225k to $275k. F50 at $500k. This is just a small sample.
Dudes, I sold my Oxford Green over Vintage Tan E39 M5 with like 40k kms (25k mls) on it, 10 years ago for 18k, that would go for 60-80k today considering the rare color combo. Also sold a 964 C2 with about 80k kms (50k mls) that was absolutely immaculate, black over a tan interior, with 25k circa 2011, I'm guessing that would be a 100k car nowadays. Didn't need the money, could have easily kept either. I'm guessing everyone has a similar story...
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"if only we had money in 2009" -Doug
I felt that
Bitcoin in 2010 was 8 cents
Iirc Acura NSXs were going for $30k at the time.
Just imagine if you would have stuck $100 into Bitcoin then.... today over 1 million
I'm just glad I had a job in 2009 that I was able to hold onto until 2011
Me to my friend: "If only we had money"
Doug single handedly made every cool under-appreciated car unaffordable. Thanks Doug!
He’s always doing these as fillers… He’ll put the cars ‘m “secretly” looking at right on front street. 🤯🤯🤯
It's funny but sad and your not wrong. His channel awesome but also definitely the biggest factor for why cool cars are completely unaffordable.
Rip 996 prices
@@ArmandoMorales325 Nah, manual transmissions being phased out by the exotic manufacturers put a premium on the best examples of the 90's/00's, plus GenXers (for whom F40 etc.. were fantasy cars) getting wealthy enough to drive up demand. Population of rich ppl is much larger now, with fewer good examples of manual supercars to be found.
only shows you that cars are inflated in value. Waiting for another recession 🤭
This is one of my favorite garage videos ever. Enjoy!
Love the videos Doug 🎉🔥
Me too!
I think this is the first time you do a video with someone else, I like the format. What changed though?
Hey doug when are you gonna review 4 door koenigsegg
Do more of these look back videos! My 401k went down 30% last year. Kind of feels like similar times. I bought a 2019 GT350. Maybe in ten years it will double in value?
This might be one of my favorite videos of all time because we get to see two car enthusiasts completely nerd/geek out together 🤓
Doug and Kennan reading old DuPont Registry mags is amazing … I have 2005-2010 somewhere i used to read them as a kid. I love this!
Still have my late 90s to 2005 set.
$100k in 2009 felt like $1m today.
And its only been 14 years
Yeah that was the thing. 100k back then felt like you were rich. Nowadays it's just a nice down payment on a house.
My Grandpa had a subscription to Dupont Registry for the longest time. I would flip through these eating my cereal before early grade school. I would play a game where I would flip the page and pretend I had 5 seconds to pick my favorite car for free. Thanks for bringing back some memories Doug and friend.
I loved DuPont Registry. As a 12 year old I had no idea how much/unattainable any of the listings really were but it was the best magazine for looking at all the different manufacturers/models.
Can we also talk about NSX prices during this time! You could pick up a 00s model in the $20s
I think Doug is the best car reviewer ever been watching him from the beginning I can't wait for his vids each week
I’ve always thought the same. The fact that he hates absolutely no cars. Not many people are like that
@@MrJessenava Maserati ghibli has entered the chat
@@Blue_Flame_Raptordoes he not like that
Definitely. The brits are way too snobby I love how Doug finds the coolness in any car
The F50 for $949k wins here. It's gone ~4x+ that so far and going nowhere but up from there. Very special cars and they made very few of them.
I remember once seeing an ex Mike Tyson F50 that was for sale in a little speed shop in NJ. It was under $1M
@@gotham61 with 4 ounces of premium coke still in the upholstery!
I am not a supercar guy, but I actually love this video. I smiled right along with you guys guessing the prices and hearing the actual ones!
Doug is the kind of guy to use his Carrera GT as a snack tray for his English Muffin. 😏
Better yet, it's 2 huge chocolate chip cookies
@@AndrewMartonik there were three in the last video…
English muffin? Wut they’re cookies lol
@@BlakeWalsh Eh I couldn't really tell. It looked like a thick, tasty English Muffin to me when I noticed it.
Well when you spend that much money on a car you can't afford fancy amenities like a TV tray
I read an article about Cameron's house from Ferris Bueller a few years ago and it was apparently designed by a well known American architect and the garage was actually designed to be office space and it apparently had a bathroom and a kitchenette in it. The house sat abandoned for many years until someone bought it and added a two storey addition onto the back of the house.
My hometown. Imagine our excitement when the movie came out. :)
Thank you for reminding me what the recession era prices look like, just as we are heading into another recession.
Yay, can't wait to relive 2009....but EVEN WORSE 😔
May 24 and the US stock market index has hit an all time high.
Best Doug DeMuro garage video of all time.
I've got issues of DuPont Registry with Ferrari F40 asking prices in the $300s. Imagine that nowadays.
I have a 1969 copy of Road & Track that has a classified ad for a Ferrari 250GTO for $6000
This is such a fun video idea. Reminds me of conversations I have with my dad in the car or at home talking about how ridiculous current prices are. Love these garage videos Doug
We definitely need Doug and Kennan doing a podcast talking about cars
@13:00 It was not a crap shoot for the cars that would lose value. People were paying a premium for new Ferrari models like the 599 for $400k. Anyone with sense knew they would drop precipitously in price once the model was replaced.
That a few cars barely dipped and then shot to the moon (Carrera GT, Enzo, et al), they were the outliers. I don't think anyone can claim they had foreseen the Ford GT increase.
“Kennan, friend of Doug” 😂
My favorite example of “if you could’ve done one thing or the other” was in 2003 when I was in college working for a dealer group that had Mercedes-Benz/BMW/Audi franchises all in a row on the same street. At the time our BMW store had a then brand new Titanium Silver Alpina Z8 on the showroom floor for many months, if I recall the MSRP was in the $130-140k range and it’s very possible they would discounted one. Meanwhile at the same time our Mercedes store just started receiving SL55 AMG’s and they were so insanely hot that we sold the first one out of state for $50k over the original MSRP of $125k, so basically a $175k SL55 vs a $130k (or less) BMW Z8……Now that SL55 isn’t even worth half of that $50k ADM, let alone it’s MSRP(!) and I’m assuming a nice Alpina is roughly $275k ish based on a quick search, but at the time the SL55 was the car to have with nearly 500HP and gorgeous hardtop convertible body while the Alpina had already had its glory days and was now just like a 360HP automatic transmission retro car that wasn’t very desirable. I actually watched an SL55 admittedly with some relatively minor cosmetic and mechanical issues sell for $8k at an auction a few years ago 🤦🏻♂️
When you add insurance, gas, maintenance, storage your lucky to even break even with most of these cars.
One of the best garage vids to date. keep doing stuff like this with Kennan
I was a freshman in high school in 09 but I had some legit cars slip away much after the recession from 2015 to 2018. Could've had an obsidian black aero package c63 black series for $80k, almost bought a jet stream blue c6 zr1 for $56k, and was trying to get financing for a grigio telesto 08 superleggera for $110k. All of those cars are worth $30k-50k more right now... I guess moral of the story is if it's meant to be then you will eventually get your dream car. Maybe the universe has its way of teaching patience to us car peeps!
Born in 1998, my poster lambo is A black Murcielago, then in NFS most wanted I adored and mobbed in a blacked out one. Great video!
That F50 price......i felt that😢. Such a bargain. Almost ridiculous to think that it could ever be that "cheap"
I think this is a great example of why cars are not good investments. The highest return I heard was 5x but if you bought stocks at the time you earned 6x. Yes you get to enjoy the car but that enjoyment has a cost.
and stocks have no maintenance, storage, insurance, etc. and stocks pay tax efficient dividends.
@@althunder4269 for sure, the upkeep can get expensive and time consuming.
Doug is the type of guy to rock his chair right next to his Carrera GT.
I remember 930 turbos were 25k, and 964 turbos 35k , e30 m3s 8k . I was a broke highschool kid at the time and i knew they were going up in price.
Damn dude, I had the opportunity to buy a 964 3.6 turbo for around 60k and I felt it was too expensive! That's a 350k car nowadays.
@@emixmim i had the opportunity to buy a euro spec 1986 slant nose turbo black on black for 27k. I begged family and friends for the extra 10k but it sold soon after.
Looks like a completely different day with completely different cookies on Carrera GT.
A friend? You've come a long way over the years Doug. Keep it up
Microsoft stock was around 18. Today, 288. Apple was at 6. Today, 165. Just something to think about.
Hey Doug, to your comment about that F40 outperforming all securities and homes… Domino’s Pizza traded for $3 in 2008, it’s currently at $330, for a 110x return on Pizza…!
and TSLA
Neat video, thanks for sharing.
The S&P500 in early 2009 was trading around 750, and it recently closed around 4100. If we ignore dividends, and assume a low-cost S&P500 ETF, the average investor would have achieved a return of ~5.5x on every dollar invested since early 2009. In other words, the gain in value for most of the supercars mentioned in this video is well below what the average person could have accomplished if they'd just bought a low-cost ETF (especially since large assets -- whether they're art, cars, or collections -- carry additional costs of insurance, storage, and maintenance).
I have screenshots of deals on marketplace and once and a while I see them and I CRY
I hear that😭
That’s what these cars should be worth. Now it’s gone crazy. And because it’s gone crazy, nobody drives them anymore, they just sit in collections
Well… other than the automatic Gallardos and F430s😂😂😂
I wish there was an auction site for uncool cars from the leaded gasoline era with expensive listings.
I legitimately still have these magazines, and remember reading these exact ads they are talking about as a kid 😃
Especially that red Diablo!
This has more to do with the time period before "monthly payment bros" with exotic cars...where you actually had to be able to afford the car AND the maintenance, not just a lease for 2 years
Money was cheap why wouldn’t you. If I pay 2m over 4years at some absurdly low rate and Biden/kamala keep funding wars across the world in 2y the 1m I owe is worth like 13% less.
It’s nice to see Doug doing a cameo with one of his friends! This is gonna make for a great upload.
Feels like they didn't factor in inflation enough when considering the price differences here.
My family goes to the Ferrari of Fort Lauderdale every year to simply check out what they have on offer. My father had just sold his 69 Daytona for big chunk of change and I vividly remember seeing this F40 with my brother, begging my dad to at least take it for a test drive. He ended up with a Pantera and a Lotus esprit because he wanted to help my sister with her education. My sister got an art history degree and doesn't work now... We are all mad at her to say the least lol
I’m one of your biggest fan Doug . Since 5 years now, watched you from the first video you dropped. You’re still going strong 💪
Cool
Good video. My favorite part is definitely the cookies resting atop your all- time dream car 😂
Apple shares were $6.40 in recession. Hindsight is great 😢
This is cool to see, but AAPL stock was less than 9 bucks in 2009 and now it is 150. That was real monet maker and lower entry price and less risk at the time IMO.
Inflation is also about 42% over that time period- So a $100,000 car then was really like a $142,000 today
Not only apple. Google, Netflix, Tesla, Amazon....
and APPL split a bunch of times too....
I gotta say, we need pt. 2 of this video. My favourite cars & bids video ever.
Got a stack of DuPont Registry (amongst MT, RT, Automobile, CAR, etc.) magazines from the 90s and very early 2000s in a crate in my garage … definitely great days of dreaming and learning about everything in those publications.
Used to read DR back in high school in the bathroom. It was like a porno mag for me, looking at Porsche 993s, Ferrari F355s, and Lamborghini Diablos as well as learning about lesser known cars, like the Panoz Esperante (it was created by the inventor of the transdermal patch, did you know that?). I wish I kept my issues, it would be nice to revisit a time you could get air cooled Porsches for reasonable prices.
The younger generation may not appreciate this video but for us geriatric millennials this is a bitter sweet walk down memory lane! Love it!
One of the best videos on RUclips imo. Added to my highly exclusive club of liked videos.
Inflation adjustment would've been great, otherwise it's not a good comparison price wise
I agree, but to be fair, dollar differences prolly weren't THAT different only 14 years ago.
@@MicahPotts Looks like about 40% (100k in 09 is 140k now).
Yeah people tend to forget about inflation lol unless they're looking at something 50+ years old where the price difference is SUPER obvious, triggering them to realise.
40%
Doug is the type of guy who uses a Porsche Carrera GT as a table for his cookies.
That $599,000 F40 was newer then than an Enzo is now.
The best time to buy cars was before Doug started doing RUclips videos because not nearly as many people knew about the really cool ones lol
Another great video Doug! The videoe with Kennan are great, it's adds a lot that youre having a conversation about the topic.
Doug is the type of guy to use his Carrera GT as a cookie tray.
I remember seeing an ad on autorader for a red F50 listed for $500K during great recession. Was listed low due to a death in the family as per ad. I knew it was a steal but had no money. In 2016 I wanted to buy a nice low mile R34 but wife vetoed it. Prices were around $50-80K. 4 years later bought one costing more than double those prices but it doubled since I bought mine so it is never too late on certain limited number cars.
Doug the type of guy to eat cookies off of his seven-figure supercar, of which he actually drives often.
I'm your exact age Doug, i remember Dupont Registry mags so well. Great idea for a garage video. So fun.
It makes me so happy to see that CGT in the background. Fun video
Instead of paying college tuition, should have paid a mortgage on a SoCal ocean house, too.
hope you're well doug! love from yorkshire, england
I still have a few Dupont registries from the early 2000's, with a bunch of listings for NA1 NSX's that cost 30-50 thousand dollars.
Love the smile on your face here Doug!
Doug's comment on Veyron made me think... in all his years with cars who are the biggest crooks he has come across? Expensive cars and questionable people have a way of finding each other.
A missed opportunity to say THISSSSSS IS MY FRIEND
Doug - Great video per usual. Loved the “Bye Bye” outro- reminded me of John McLaughlin of The McLaughlin group 😂😂
Right when I think Doug DeMuro videos couldn't possibly get any better...
I love these talks with Kenneth
I still think the XJ220 is one of the most undervalued cars ever. It’s iconic, insanely rare, and beautiful. Over 4 times more F40s were made than XJ220s and F40s are worth 4 times the amount of an XJ220.
I get that the F40 is more famous, but I don’t think the price difference should be this much.
People who bought an XJ220 were originally expecting it to have a V8 and were pissed off when it came with a V6 so they actually cancelled their orders.
Love how there’s 2 cookies just chillin on Doug’s $2 million Carrera GT. Never change Doug!
Only Doug (and Kennan) can make a 25 minute video - about browsing through old magazines
I have a dupont registry from October of 2001 and there was a 1965 Ferrari 275 gtb for $210,000 and a 1991 Ferrari F40 with 186 miles for $399,999.
Wow!
Those deals are insane!
...Now all I need is the cash to afford them!
I have a screenshot from TopCheapCar, of a Lexus LFA 2012, for sale in North Miami in September 2019.
The price was incredible low, only $268999😮!
Reminds me of the time I bought a nice stock 93 mk4 Supra for 11k and sold it a year later for an offer I couldn't refuse... 12k.
I have so many old Dupont Registrys. When I look back at them I can't help but yell " WHY DIDNT I BUY THIS? IT WAS A STEAL"
I was in Newport Autosport (now Ferrari of Newport Beach) in July of 1999 and they had an Ameritech imported Mclaren F1 and were asking $999,999.00. That takes the cake.
This was a real blast, I also graduated in '09 and genuinely considered a Gt3
When I sell my Camaro I’m gonna write in the ad “Driven by a Chevy aficionado” 🤣
This has been my favorite video so far
I LOVED this video Doug, I hope to see this return again. Fun fact, I recently bought a 1975 car value guide for old and collectible cars and Aston Martin db5s were apparently $5k
A house was less than 5k back then
This is like watching two old guys reminisce about cars from their youth. And I love it.
Didn't realize Doug and I were the same age lol. We graduated the same year😅
Hurray Doug has a friend! Nice chap. great video!
0:37................Azure can't wait for that review!!!!!
Enjoyed this one ☝️
Love these videos Doug and Kennen videos keep them up!
You missed the gembella mirage gt listing 😭
Just wait for the next Recession, good deals coming.
Every video with Kennan Doug eats one cookie 😆
I like your side table CarreraGT edition, really fits the setting
And now they're trying to move Raptor R's for $198,000 💀
Looking forward to seeing “cookies rested on Carrera GT” on Being a Trailer for $2000
The craziest deals I saw during the recession:
2005 Ford GT black 20k miles for 80k in 2009, car was in Fontana.
'67 Camaro SS 396 manual restored in the 90's for 27k in 2010, car was in Rancho Cucamonga.
Ferrari 328GTS with 76k miles on BBS wheels with stock wheels included, red on black, needed timing belt and clutch very soon, $8500 as a divorce sale in 2008. Car was in Pittsburg.
Some of my favorites from Hemmings Motor News back issues from 2001:
1984 Lambo Countach, wht/wht, 25k miles, good driver - $45,000.
‘89 Anniversary Countach, white, $75,000.
1988 Lambo LM002, only 9k miles - $55,000.
1981 Ferrari 512BB Boxer, Carbureted, grey/black, 17k mi - $57,500.
1980 BMW M1, White, 25k mi -$69,500.
Ferrari F40’s at $225k to $275k. F50 at $500k.
This is just a small sample.
Dudes, I sold my Oxford Green over Vintage Tan E39 M5 with like 40k kms (25k mls) on it, 10 years ago for 18k, that would go for 60-80k today considering the rare color combo. Also sold a 964 C2 with about 80k kms (50k mls) that was absolutely immaculate, black over a tan interior, with 25k circa 2011, I'm guessing that would be a 100k car nowadays. Didn't need the money, could have easily kept either. I'm guessing everyone has a similar story...