"Shouldn't max players be at least above average on offense?" Turn the question the other way around, shouldn't max players be at least above average on defense? So many max players are net negatives on defense and no one bats an eye.
Because the league has turned into an offense-heavy team and players respect those that can "get a bucket." They appreciate defense, but if you are not adding directly to the scoreboard, then they wonder what is your value? Think Shaq vs Nash that MVP race.
@@Nunya7211 KAT is actually a decent defender, unlike how a lot of people say. He just sucks at being in drop coverage which he was forced to play the majority of his career by coaches who were too stubborn to think outside the box on defense (most notably, Thibs). Now the real guys who are a legit negative on defense are guys like Trae, Mitchell, Garland, Jamal Murray, Beal, Dame from who I can think of off the top of my head. That's a LOT of stars on max deals and they are all offense and no defense.
@@paryssneville1208yes that is, look at the numbers and the seasons he won dpoy, he constantly and consistently put his team in a top 5 defense. Your just a brain dead Rudy hater who just goes what everybody says, stop bbal lil bro
@@mugenchamplooo what's crazy about that covid stuff with Rudy. He's on a team with Kat and he loss like 7 family members to covid including his mother. He's one guy that doesn't look at covid as a joke. It was very real to him.
@@paryssneville1208 Shaq is a biased casual for calling him the worst in the league tho. I remember that jealous fool comparing Wemby to a nobody like Bol Bol because his son is buddies with him.
I love how NBA media works lol. I’m a suns fan and we went from everybody loving us for sucking so long then being good in the bubble “oh Book is legit” then we get CP3 and make the finals, people are impartial, then we choke the next year and everybody hates us and hates Booker “he’s a wannabe Kobe. Luka’s kid” then we trade for KD and Beal “oh no depth team sucks” we underperform “oh worst super team of all time” while they said we sucked and had no depth. No Booker did what he always does in the Olympics and people like him again. NBA media just hilarious. Everybody loved the wolves, now they hate them, it all changes on a dime
People made fun of book because he was trash talking and couldn't back it up and looked like a clown. They literally did trade all their depth. Going for Beal was a horrible move of course people will point that out. No one actually hates book, he's an incredible player but it is still fun to laugh at him for that collapse and because of that he will always be Lukas kid unless he can beat luka and redeem himself.
i think people are not trying to enjoy the game as much as they try to analyze everything and forget winning aint easy most star players never win rings
@@RedFox-ye1gy you’re proving my point dawg. Speaking like everything you say is how everybody thinks. Different opinions and wavelengths that’s just the one you took. Also just because I am a suns fan I gotta defend Book and say Luka talks so much yet has had the same success as Book🤷♂️. As Magic said “can’t say nothing to you win a championship” so frankly both need to STFU and figure it out. Quickly you forget Book in his first playoff run went to the finals and was setting records every night, but you right it doesn’t matter if you don’t win the whole thing. But that’s just my opinion. Again though, not everything black and white and everybody thinks the same. Cheers bro
Crazy that people think Minnesota's run was a fluke when they have Rudy who won DPOY, Ant who was Great throughout the Playoffs and also they have the Sixth Man of the year in Naz Reid. Yes they had some struggles but I honestly think they can win the title next year
I do wonder how long it will take ANT to notice that KAT doesnt care if he ever wins a chip or not . KAT from the beginning never cared about winning . Hes just one of those guys happy to be paid and play basketball. Nothing wrong with that either , its not everyones mentality But i do wonder how long it takes before ANT realizes
He can be great when he wants to, needs to be pushed from time to time. I agree with what the creator of this video said. Kat will get traded sooner or later. The moment the organization see it's not going as they planned or the team is not getting better, they will work to dump Kat to create salary flexibility. They are at the luxury in terms of taxes, they are the second most expensive team behind the Phoenix Suns. Kat gets traded and they find a cheaper replacement and they might even avoid the second apron. Surprisingly it's the first time Glen Taylor allows this, but he has Mark Lore and A-Rod, and the two probably told Glen they'll take of the extra taxes.
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay to be fair to him it's not that I don't think he cares . I think he cares and he tries but more a mentality thing. I don't think his dream is to be the best basketball player he can be . Or to win a chip I feel like it's more to be happy and secure his family's future . Which he has already done . I just don't think he has that drive to be the best of the best and to be obsessed with winning . It's just not him and theres nothing wrong with that . Not everyone has that mentality where the game is their life and they would sacrifice their time and comfortability to make winning their entire focus
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay Yeah, however, he's relaxed sometimes because he knows he's in the starting 5 there's no one better at that position (Naz arguably). I'll say the Wolves will give him 1 more try and if they repeat the success or go further, there will be a Hail Marry attempt to save the team, but I doubt either way that the franchise will be able to keep this roster. It's just too much of a headache when it comes to luxury tax, even if they win the championship, someone has to go, I bet it's KAT - he is not even 30 yet so he has a chance. No one will take Gobert at this point and when his contract is over, he will either get on a vet minimum or retire. Not a lot of teams Gobert is compatible with in this day and age.
Hey, minor mistake made, the Spurs agreed to the trade before the pick came, due to the stepien rule it only conveyed afterwards, but the pick was made by Minnesota decision.
A big reason why people hate the Timber Wolves is because of the ANT Glaze like it just terrible they saying he is top 10 in the league saying he is better thand= d book than Donovan Mitchell, than Tatum like it needs to stop
I like Rudy but I don't really like Ant. He's saying dumb stuff and is too overrated by the media. I absolutely hate how the media push him to be the next face of the league.
@@mikeysbusythat’s literally a lie. For the entire playoffs he was 48 40 and 81 from the line with a 60%TS he literally wasn’t inefficient “for the most part”
Love AntMan, like I said on a vid I made about him- he’s just being honest within the context of his own experience- not other peoples opinions (but like ant that’s just my opinion) lol
Because of the new CBA, continuing the Wolves’ success would be hard. Gobert and Towns would be up for extension (both would want the max), NAW and Reid would required 20-25 million/season and their stabilizer Mike Conley is not getting any younger. If they don’t at least get the finals next year, there would be some hard decisions to make. They might only end up keeping 3 maybe 4 at most of their key players.
The reason why people hate Gobert is because his game isn't "clean and smooth". He's all defense and no offense. They say "just drag him outside the paint and he's cooked". If that were to be the case, then why isn't every single team running 1/5 pick and roll every possession to get him switched onto a guard? Thing is, he's great at showing and retreating back to his man to contest lobs and also decent at guarding the perimeter as well as he moves really well considering he's a 7 footer. His 7'9 wingspan helps a ton to contest shots as well. It's crazy how Gobert gets hate for his salary when the Jazz paid him that much in the first place too. The man grabbed the bag like any other mfer would but somehow it's his fault that he got paid that much? I've never heard the Jazz getting hate because they paid him the full max at least in recent years. It's also not his fault that the wolves traded for him with all the "assets" (which as of right now, they got another clarkson in keyonte george and that's it lol) and blame him for inflating the trade market when the hawks literally did that beforehand by trading 4 unprotected picks for a 1 year rental of Murray. None of which is Gobert's fault too. Also to those people who say Luka cooked him, I've yet to see any big NOT get cooked by Luka, at least in a playoff setting. There's so much you can do when you play near perfect defense and stay attached to him but he still makes the shot. And to Lively, he's yet to understand how lucky he is to get to play with 2 generational playmakers with the ball in their hands in Luka and Kyrie and literally got spoon fed buckets on a silver platter. He talks like he was able to do whatever he wanted when in reality it was his other teammates doing the heavy lifting on offense. There's a reason he never got playing time against the Cs. He's just not that good yet.
Because everyone knows Gobert got exposed in WCF and a lot of people saw it coming. He is a liability on offense but too flawed to be a 4DPOY max contract player. Gobert is a role player, a glorified Tyson chandler
@@shorewall Rudy got his teammates infected with covid after making a joke out of it which led to him being disliked more than him being foreign/french. Before he was pretty likable being part of the team that took down the big 3 OKC. When you make a jump from a team that give contenders a challenge to a contender and can't contribute on the offense then criticisms will start pouring in. Tony Parker is also a light skin foreigner frenchman and didnt get as much hate even after an affair with his teammates wife.
Roy Hibbert basically got the same treatment, just on a smaller scale because he wasn't paid as much. Not that they deserve it, but it's not a nationality thing
@@MarkLaw13 that's why he didn't get as much hate. Same style of basketball, and players felt the same way about him. But they weren't as loud about it because he didn't win as much salary or awards. That's why Rudy gets shit on so much
I just feel like the TWolves were heavily criticized recently for alot of reasons: *Rudy and KAT are extremely passive players even on the playoffs their offense and defense have surprisingly very limited. * Rudy Gobert winning the DPOY over Wemby is atrocious. Wemby was arguably a better defender than rudy because of his size and length. to top it all off Anthony Edwards keeps overestimating himself as being the next face of the league and used up all of his energy in the regular season to be this tired in the playoffs
Yeah. I'm convinced Gobert will retire with 6+ DPOY but will keep getting torched by other offenses in the playoffs and there will still be ppl justifying his undeserved awards/contracts.
Depends on injuries a lot but T-wolves could still be a top 3 team in the West. They have a good defense so that will keep them in a lot of games when they aren't shooting well. If OKC is healthy, they should have #1 seed and a trip to the finals. Thunder have offense and defense -- and only got better in the off season. They needed some playoff experience, which they have now.
@user-ov6ht3lu4d because every team he's on gets better,ofc he gets cooked by luka,it's LUKA,but he's underrated in the way he impacts teams like the jazz in 2021
@@ryanstyle8862he’s a good player but 4 time dpoy makes him a little overrated. Elite regular season rim protector and solid in playoffs but Luka not the only one that does gobert like that in the playoffs. Luka forced hardy to go one on one on gobert because he knew he’d get a bucket. Bam victor ad probably not giving up that bucket in the playoffs
One thing Ant is missing is the NBA of the 70's/80's was brutal. The Pistons of that era were dirty and violent and would clean your clock in the lane. There weren't nearly as many Mickey Mouse fouls called
@matthewford521 say what you want about past players skills but at least they played 82 games and the playoffs. Modern NBA is a joke because load managing "stars" can't even play in postseason. Every year the title is decided by injuries instead of "skill"
@@vulcanraven9701 you know why there are more injuries? Players today play with a higher intensity which causes more pressure on peoples joints. It’s not as physical but it’s more physically demanding. You aren’t educated on why injuries happen so often so you make generalisations. Just stop it
If a coach puts a player in a position where he’s destined to fail, who’s at fault the player or the coach? That’s the rudy gobert Terrance man situation in the 21 playoffs
Come on Casey. Saying Gobert got smoked by Terrence Mann is such a misstatement. The only people who say that don’t understand basketball. I know you do, so you’re just stirring the pot, pandering to the haters for views
What??? Me and my friends have been high on the Timberwolves core for years and still are. I’m hoping to see them make the conference finals this year and I fully expect them to be a top 3 seed.
The hate gobert gets is terrible. The jazz decided to pay him that money. I don’t listen to older players and even current players talk about the game. Basketball is t played in a 1v1 setting primarily. If Rudy is so overrated on defense, why don’t they go to the rim when he’s there. I also watch the wolves a lot and I can say, without gobert, our team would be a 7th seed at best. A 7 foot 2 center being switched on a 6 foot 3 guard, off course he’s getting cocked on the perimeter, it’s physically impossible for him to keep up consistently and that applies to wemby most the time as well. Ben Wallace is another all time great defender and he literally will go an entire game and score like 4 points. People having a problem with gobert because of the money he makes and they need to stop projecting their jealousy and hate on him. For every up and coming star, it’s only a matter of time before everyone that supports you turns on you. Anthony Edwards better learn that and don’t expect any better from nba media
The fact people act like Ant is talking any sense rather than just stirring the pot amazes me. He has a history of saying outlandish things. Like being the main star of team USA. Watch his press conferences with KAT he is constantly joking around and saying ridiculous things that no person with common sense thinks is actually right or accurate. Hes just having fun and trolling for engagement. Its hilarious.
Spurs fan here, I really like the Wolves, I also really like the Grizzlies. We need guys like Ant and Ja, Jimmy Butler etc. If Chet wasn't on OK I'd really like the Thunder as well, because of what they add to the league. Even though they'll probably be our biggest competitior in the not so distant future.
no kidding. In the "Pistol drops 68 on the Knicks" video, one can see him pass a tweener on the break at a full run with perfect placement for teammate to score - or see Pistol shamgod through 4 defenders to score off-hand ...., but these clowns won't get to those parts because they see it's filmed in B&W and quickly bugger out before the 2nd quarter
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I don't really understand the Rudy Gobert hate ... he's a dirty player every once in awhile but not remotely as bad as Green and Embiid. He's a very good defender and rebounder ... rarely gets hurt. Plays hard. Overpaid? Sure.🤣 I don't like the T-wolves but I think they're legit because of their defense. If you have a good defense every year, you'll be a contender in the NBA.
He is a paper tiger. On paper, he provides elite defense and therefore teams should win with him. Has 4 DPOY In reality he sucks bad at offense and can only defend in specific situations/areas so good offenses figure him out.He has a superstar contract that will burn out the team's cap space when he is really a role player
Have you ever watched Dennis Rodman on offense outside of putbacks a tip in with a layup or dunk? No probably not it was insanely rare for him to take a shot outside of 5 feet and yet he is steal one of the greatest of all time. He focused on rebounding and defense. Rodman studied other players and their most common moves then when they tried to use those moves Rodman knew where they were going and would meet them at that spot to draw a charge or slap the ball out of their hands. zHe even looked like it was his first time running in the fast break because he had a high step like a gazelle and why did he do things like that? Well because if the other players are looking at him they are not looking at or for the ball. Distraction was a huge part of his game but in his day more players respected the work others put in because of what they got out of them on the court. Thank God social media wasn't thing in his day because what we saw out of Dennis with regular old media was to much.
Phil Jackson called Rodman the greatest athlete he'd ever worked with. Not MJ... but _DENNIS._ He had a unique genius for hoops and exploited it on the way to 5 chips. Worm played from an angle that nobody before or since has ever quite found out about, or could maintain as a viable play-style even if they DID understand it.
"No one talks about the Pistons, Blazers of Hornets", but I'd swap out the Hornies for the Bulls. As a Blazers fan, it's absolutely us, Chicago and Detroit for worst teams in the league when it comes to the front office, training staff and ownership, and it's clear.
It's the organization and who's ever in charge of picking the coach if you pick a coach that does not run an offensive system that's a championship system at the triangle office you ain't going nowhere the game hasn't changed players can't play defense like it's 1998 anymore or 2000 and you have to have an office assistant you can't shoot threes like your Steph Curry for far away when I can just dump it down low and get a foul and one from a big guy if you have big eyes you want to run a triangle offense if you do not it's a thrown away season
I'm not a hater, but I think Chuck is right that they will regress. They quietly lost some depth, Conley is only getting older and he was great last season. Same with Gobert.
Back in the day there was actually no more controversial player in any team sport in the '90s than Rodman. Dude got waaay more boos than Draymond or Rudy do now. First, everyone outside Detroit hated _the entire Pistons team._ Or at least Laimbeer, Isaih and Mahorn - in addition to Rodman. That was one thing, but when Dennis went to the Bulls and dyed his hair all of the disdain and hateraid got aimed at HIM - so he was heckled constantly everywhere he went. Nobody else on the Bulls was all that hate-able, some "anti-favoritism" talk against MJ, sure - but who else was hated - Kerr??
Ironically, Gobert was in Utah, the Wolves are becoming the Donovan Mitchell Jazz. Good enough to be a top team in the regular season but fold in the playoffs and no matter what they try to add its not enough to get over the hump.
I like Gobert, so everybody dont hate him. I like him even when he lack in offence. He is very good at defense, especially in team defense. All signs late last season show that maybe nba allow play real defense again. If so, Gobert will be even more valuable than he was last season. However, i cant cheer for wolves because Ant disrespect so many great players in past eras. I think that players back then had more skills than todays players. Back then players wasnt allow to travel, carry ball etc. Now people think todays players have more skills, NO THEY DONT! They just allowed do stuff what wasnt allowed in past eras. And also now teams are not allowed play defence. Ofc scoring is easier now than ever before. Its easy to score when take few extra steps, carry the ball, commit offece foul and get some freethrows after all that. In the past none of those things was legal.
He choked in game 7? He choked in game 4 of the wcf? He choked in game 4 of the Denver series in 23? He choked in game 4 of the suns series? He choked vs the Celtics in their first matchup in 24? He choked in game 1 of the nuggets? Get off your knees
Luka Doncic was 3rd best Iso defender last season and 1 of 4 players to have over 100 possessions playing iso defender. I know he isn't guarding the most elite offenseive players on other teams but he's getting tested 3rd most in the NBA in iso and holding up most of the time so clearly this "he plays no defense/doesn't try" isn't true. This literally took a 3 min google search to look up the stats. He's not quick but anyone who watches the games will see he's good at anticipating were someone will go, walling them off or jumping them to steal the ball. Only fast elite offensive players blow past him and nobody in the league completely stops those guys. This is such a hater argument at this point, and like in the last video I watched and commented on Casey hates on the Mavs because he's a Rockets fan and its super annoying. I like watching a bunch of NBA RUclipsrs because they don't do the crap of ESPN or mainstream guys do which is just be homers for whoever they like and clearly not watch the games but Christ this is basically the same experience at this point. It's sad because I want to watch the videos but its so annoying becasue its so unnecessary and its not just Luka and the Mavs. It completley ruins the experience of an otherwise fine video. Criticism is one thing, slipping in a jab every oppurtunity and acting like Shaq and Skip and the others is just driving people off.
I don’t like that everyone is hating on my team. 😢 We make it out of the first round of the playoffs for the 2nd time in our teams history and now everyone hates us 😭
You can't just say he is everyone favorite new player when he is not just cuz he is yours and media wanted him to will this past season that doesn't make it true
jordan era are far different from today’s era so it’s not right to compare those two whose better because both eras do have advantages or disadvantages over the other. back then players need to be tough on themselves to train everyday and get better on their skills. they just rely on what they understood based on what they were taught of, basically more of a textbook skill. today’s players simply open their youtube and watch highlights and study every move they see. there are lots of tutorials already available and so convenient that they could just compile them all and then watch them over and over.
Ant wouldn't be doing shit if he wasn't just BORN vertically athletic. Dude carries the ball on every possession, and he is NOT a good natural shooter. He's got some stupid turnovers due to bad court vision, but he's a solid defender SOLELY because of his frame and quick twitch (which you are BORN with). He's awful at reading screens He's a decent player on what was a bad team so people want to give him more credit than he deserves. He's nothing SPECIAL yet
"Hated"? Are we saying like... "dont hate bro"? I mean.... ive never seen anyone actually "hate" the TWolves but people like myself would be called "haters" for bringing up their bad franchise history, the current questionable FO and the poor team construction that includes a center thats an issue in the POs, a PF that should be a center or at least next to a stretch power forward/center and PG who, IMO, once had the chance to develop in to a Billups clone but instead is now simply..... nowhere near that and ready to retire. Did they get "lucky"? No. They got lucky only in the sense that everyone in the West was either 1 or 2 RP pieces away OR needing to be healthy. In other words, the same "luck" everyone gets.
"Shouldn't max players be at least above average on offense?"
Turn the question the other way around, shouldn't max players be at least above average on defense?
So many max players are net negatives on defense and no one bats an eye.
Because the league has turned into an offense-heavy team and players respect those that can "get a bucket." They appreciate defense, but if you are not adding directly to the scoreboard, then they wonder what is your value? Think Shaq vs Nash that MVP race.
Offense is more important than defense especially in modern day NBA.
Sure but that applies to only a few guys, KAT being one of them lmfao
And when one little star player plays defense, well, everyone loses their mind. 🤡🤡🤡
@@Nunya7211 KAT is actually a decent defender, unlike how a lot of people say. He just sucks at being in drop coverage which he was forced to play the majority of his career by coaches who were too stubborn to think outside the box on defense (most notably, Thibs). Now the real guys who are a legit negative on defense are guys like Trae, Mitchell, Garland, Jamal Murray, Beal, Dame from who I can think of off the top of my head. That's a LOT of stars on max deals and they are all offense and no defense.
Stop it, the celtics is the most Hated team.
That not Casey's opinion, that majority opinion, Casey just the messager
Came to the comments to say this. I only hate Rudy Flopbert. That mf STINKS.
Not really there all likable dudes it’s the fans that make the Celtics get so much hate. Most Celtic fans are atrocious 💀
my exact thots
Yeah gang
not me checking my phone at 0:19
Thought it was just me lol
u got better ears than me cos i didnt even hear that.
Lol. AM leaves his phone on during recordings quite often.
Poor babies. Rudy makes every team he is on better.
He gives every team he's on covid
That’s just not factually right 😂😂 he’s beyond overrated
@@paryssneville1208yes that is, look at the numbers and the seasons he won dpoy, he constantly and consistently put his team in a top 5 defense. Your just a brain dead Rudy hater who just goes what everybody says, stop bbal lil bro
@@mugenchamplooo what's crazy about that covid stuff with Rudy. He's on a team with Kat and he loss like 7 family members to covid including his mother. He's one guy that doesn't look at covid as a joke. It was very real to him.
@@paryssneville1208 Shaq is a biased casual for calling him the worst in the league tho. I remember that jealous fool comparing Wemby to a nobody like Bol Bol because his son is buddies with him.
I love how NBA media works lol. I’m a suns fan and we went from everybody loving us for sucking so long then being good in the bubble “oh Book is legit” then we get CP3 and make the finals, people are impartial, then we choke the next year and everybody hates us and hates Booker “he’s a wannabe Kobe. Luka’s kid” then we trade for KD and Beal “oh no depth team sucks” we underperform “oh worst super team of all time” while they said we sucked and had no depth. No Booker did what he always does in the Olympics and people like him again. NBA media just hilarious. Everybody loved the wolves, now they hate them, it all changes on a dime
Literally facts I seen it in other fanbases too the nba media is easily one of the worst in major sports…they are so flip floppy
People made fun of book because he was trash talking and couldn't back it up and looked like a clown. They literally did trade all their depth. Going for Beal was a horrible move of course people will point that out.
No one actually hates book, he's an incredible player but it is still fun to laugh at him for that collapse and because of that he will always be Lukas kid unless he can beat luka and redeem himself.
i think people are not trying to enjoy the game as much as they try to analyze everything and forget winning aint easy most star players never win rings
@@RedFox-ye1gy you’re proving my point dawg. Speaking like everything you say is how everybody thinks. Different opinions and wavelengths that’s just the one you took. Also just because I am a suns fan I gotta defend Book and say Luka talks so much yet has had the same success as Book🤷♂️. As Magic said “can’t say nothing to you win a championship” so frankly both need to STFU and figure it out. Quickly you forget Book in his first playoff run went to the finals and was setting records every night, but you right it doesn’t matter if you don’t win the whole thing. But that’s just my opinion. Again though, not everything black and white and everybody thinks the same. Cheers bro
It's not NBA media it's espn only...time for people to move on from them.... they are parasites
I’ve never met a person who hates the wolves or ant Edwards
Crazy that people think Minnesota's run was a fluke when they have Rudy who won DPOY, Ant who was Great throughout the Playoffs and also they have the Sixth Man of the year in Naz Reid. Yes they had some struggles but I honestly think they can win the title next year
Naz reid my precious
Victor got robbed because I bet victor would get roty and dpoy and would have become a millionaire
Bro said ant was great when he inconsistent asf and y’all still overhyped him ig the mavs series didn’t happen 😭
As a huge Jokić fan, nobody defends him better than Gobert. He did the best in 2023 and 2024
Rudy is some straight buns and he should not have won that dpoy. Did you not see how Luka had him dancing in the playoffs? Wendy should have won it.
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Mentioning Luka was pointless, Luka schooled West last year.
I do wonder how long it will take ANT to notice that KAT doesnt care if he ever wins a chip or not .
KAT from the beginning never cared about winning . Hes just one of those guys happy to be paid and play basketball. Nothing wrong with that either , its not everyones mentality
But i do wonder how long it takes before ANT realizes
Kat is soft plays with a idgaf attitude
He can be great when he wants to, needs to be pushed from time to time. I agree with what the creator of this video said. Kat will get traded sooner or later. The moment the organization see it's not going as they planned or the team is not getting better, they will work to dump Kat to create salary flexibility. They are at the luxury in terms of taxes, they are the second most expensive team behind the Phoenix Suns. Kat gets traded and they find a cheaper replacement and they might even avoid the second apron. Surprisingly it's the first time Glen Taylor allows this, but he has Mark Lore and A-Rod, and the two probably told Glen they'll take of the extra taxes.
Think he is starting to care tho, yeah he is still spamming 3-pointers but he improved he defense a lot playing alongside Gobert.
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay to be fair to him it's not that I don't think he cares . I think he cares and he tries but more a mentality thing.
I don't think his dream is to be the best basketball player he can be . Or to win a chip
I feel like it's more to be happy and secure his family's future . Which he has already done .
I just don't think he has that drive to be the best of the best and to be obsessed with winning . It's just not him and theres nothing wrong with that . Not everyone has that mentality where the game is their life and they would sacrifice their time and comfortability to make winning their entire focus
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay Yeah, however, he's relaxed sometimes because he knows he's in the starting 5 there's no one better at that position (Naz arguably). I'll say the Wolves will give him 1 more try and if they repeat the success or go further, there will be a Hail Marry attempt to save the team, but I doubt either way that the franchise will be able to keep this roster. It's just too much of a headache when it comes to luxury tax, even if they win the championship, someone has to go, I bet it's KAT - he is not even 30 yet so he has a chance. No one will take Gobert at this point and when his contract is over, he will either get on a vet minimum or retire. Not a lot of teams Gobert is compatible with in this day and age.
??????? Literally no one I know or seen on social media is seriously hating on the wolves all the slander is on Tatum and the Celtics 🗿
The Perception of Rudy Gobert among NBA players new and old proves just because you know basketball does NOT🚫 mean you know Basketball.
Rudy not that good
rudy did it to himself talking like he’s all that then gets cooked in his first west conference appearance
@@alwayselite748 He's French. They rub a lot of people the wrong way.
Casual
Rudy is good but not 4 time dpoy good
This video want age well after the trade two weeks later lol
Hey, minor mistake made, the Spurs agreed to the trade before the pick came, due to the stepien rule it only conveyed afterwards, but the pick was made by Minnesota decision.
Oh we’ve told him that numerous times but he keeps fkin it up
A big reason why people hate the Timber Wolves is because of the ANT Glaze like it just terrible they saying he is top 10 in the league saying he is better thand= d book than Donovan Mitchell, than Tatum like it needs to stop
For real, all the comps to MJ and trying to make him the new face of the league when they got Luka, Shai, Tatum, Joker, Giannis all better than him.
Ant man way better than Tatum or d book easy .. and the way he plays his game resembles MJ take it easy the kid is young
@@jmab23 this is glazing im talking about he is not better than either of them
@@zionokungbowaweird that the suns couldnt even take a single game off the wolves in the playoffs with both d book and kevin durant.
The hate on Rudy is really some WWNBA typa bs.
why not hate on him? he's a dumbass and has no offensive bag
Rudy Robert is a HOFer!
Agree. Rudy might be a clown and what he did during Covid was shitty, but the hate is playground kind of stuff.
He’s just not like able
@@Randooooo. you just ridin with what everyone else says. but what exactly makes him not likeable? please enlighten me
Just a small point here, 04-05 Pistons were not BAD on offense. They were SLOW but incredibly efficient.
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This guys really hates Luka.
I like Rudy but I don't really like Ant. He's saying dumb stuff and is too overrated by the media.
I absolutely hate how the media push him to be the next face of the league.
Take ant off that team and they not even touching the playoffs🤣
@@PirateD.KingLuffy sure buddy. Get him on the Pistons and let him dominate that shii🤣
@@PirateD.KingLuffy fr though no offence without ant just good defense.
@@PirateD.KingLuffyOK? But does that make him the undisputed best SG in the league as the media tried to convince us all?
@@lucaslonchampt613 you’re projecting
Ant didn't get tired in Mav's series, he got injured game 6 of Denver series, hard landing on his hip, his shooting % went way down after that.
Still was shooting inefficient for the most part
@@mikeysbusythat’s literally a lie. For the entire playoffs he was 48 40 and 81 from the line with a 60%TS he literally wasn’t inefficient “for the most part”
@@mikeysbusy he had two good games in the wcf
Luka was bleeding both legs. Cope more
Love AntMan, like I said on a vid I made about him- he’s just being honest within the context of his own experience- not other peoples opinions (but like ant that’s just my opinion) lol
Because of the new CBA, continuing the Wolves’ success would be hard. Gobert and Towns would be up for extension (both would want the max), NAW and Reid would required 20-25 million/season and their stabilizer Mike Conley is not getting any younger. If they don’t at least get the finals next year, there would be some hard decisions to make. They might only end up keeping 3 maybe 4 at most of their key players.
Yeah they’re going to be WAY WORSE because they LOST “SLOW-MO” Kyle Anderson 😂 💀 okay NBA media officially has nothing to talk about this offseason
Slow mo is actually really good on defence, he was a great piece off the bench
@@joshuaperry2426 yeah true but they’ll still have a great defense
The reason why people hate Gobert is because his game isn't "clean and smooth". He's all defense and no offense. They say "just drag him outside the paint and he's cooked". If that were to be the case, then why isn't every single team running 1/5 pick and roll every possession to get him switched onto a guard? Thing is, he's great at showing and retreating back to his man to contest lobs and also decent at guarding the perimeter as well as he moves really well considering he's a 7 footer. His 7'9 wingspan helps a ton to contest shots as well.
It's crazy how Gobert gets hate for his salary when the Jazz paid him that much in the first place too. The man grabbed the bag like any other mfer would but somehow it's his fault that he got paid that much? I've never heard the Jazz getting hate because they paid him the full max at least in recent years. It's also not his fault that the wolves traded for him with all the "assets" (which as of right now, they got another clarkson in keyonte george and that's it lol) and blame him for inflating the trade market when the hawks literally did that beforehand by trading 4 unprotected picks for a 1 year rental of Murray. None of which is Gobert's fault too.
Also to those people who say Luka cooked him, I've yet to see any big NOT get cooked by Luka, at least in a playoff setting. There's so much you can do when you play near perfect defense and stay attached to him but he still makes the shot. And to Lively, he's yet to understand how lucky he is to get to play with 2 generational playmakers with the ball in their hands in Luka and Kyrie and literally got spoon fed buckets on a silver platter. He talks like he was able to do whatever he wanted when in reality it was his other teammates doing the heavy lifting on offense. There's a reason he never got playing time against the Cs. He's just not that good yet.
Because everyone knows Gobert got exposed in WCF and a lot of people saw it coming. He is a liability on offense but too flawed to be a 4DPOY max contract player.
Gobert is a role player, a glorified Tyson chandler
As a Minnesotan, I just love the attention :)
If Rudy was American. They wont say that.
He's a light skin foreigner. Explains everything. And Shaq is just a professional hater. He tried to ruin Dwight's career in his prime.
@@shorewall Rudy got his teammates infected with covid after making a joke out of it which led to him being disliked more than him being foreign/french. Before he was pretty likable being part of the team that took down the big 3 OKC. When you make a jump from a team that give contenders a challenge to a contender and can't contribute on the offense then criticisms will start pouring in. Tony Parker is also a light skin foreigner frenchman and didnt get as much hate even after an affair with his teammates wife.
Roy Hibbert basically got the same treatment, just on a smaller scale because he wasn't paid as much. Not that they deserve it, but it's not a nationality thing
@@ThatsPety he wasn't winning awards. Rudy is, so it's not the same at all
@@MarkLaw13 that's why he didn't get as much hate. Same style of basketball, and players felt the same way about him. But they weren't as loud about it because he didn't win as much salary or awards. That's why Rudy gets shit on so much
I just feel like the TWolves were heavily criticized recently for alot of reasons:
*Rudy and KAT are extremely passive players even on the playoffs their offense and defense have surprisingly very limited.
* Rudy Gobert winning the DPOY over Wemby is atrocious. Wemby was arguably a better defender than rudy because of his size and length.
to top it all off Anthony Edwards keeps overestimating himself as being the next face of the league and used up all of his energy in the regular season to be this tired in the playoffs
Yeah. I'm convinced Gobert will retire with 6+ DPOY but will keep getting torched by other offenses in the playoffs and there will still be ppl justifying his undeserved awards/contracts.
@@vulcanraven9701 yeah i agree with you
Depends on injuries a lot but T-wolves could still be a top 3 team in the West. They have a good defense so that will keep them in a lot of games when they aren't shooting well.
If OKC is healthy, they should have #1 seed and a trip to the finals.
Thunder have offense and defense -- and only got better in the off season. They needed some playoff experience, which they have now.
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Rudy probably has the worst hands in the NBA, but the hate is ridiculous. People should worry about themselves
4 time DPOY can't even make the Finals and gets cooked every NBA play-offs but keeps winning DPOYs
@user-ov6ht3lu4d because every team he's on gets better,ofc he gets cooked by luka,it's LUKA,but he's underrated in the way he impacts teams like the jazz in 2021
@@ryanstyle8862he’s a good player but 4 time dpoy makes him a little overrated. Elite regular season rim protector and solid in playoffs but Luka not the only one that does gobert like that in the playoffs. Luka forced hardy to go one on one on gobert because he knew he’d get a bucket. Bam victor ad probably not giving up that bucket in the playoffs
@@alexescutia4805exactly. Leader in DPOY’s in league history? Cmon man
@@Артемсергеев-ы4с He has been great in the playoffs. Mitchell and Towns let him down
One thing Ant is missing is the NBA of the 70's/80's was brutal. The Pistons of that era were dirty and violent and would clean your clock in the lane. There weren't nearly as many Mickey Mouse fouls called
And it wasn’t as skilled
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Fax
@matthewford521 say what you want about past players skills but at least they played 82 games and the playoffs. Modern NBA is a joke because load managing "stars" can't even play in postseason. Every year the title is decided by injuries instead of "skill"
@@vulcanraven9701 you know why there are more injuries? Players today play with a higher intensity which causes more pressure on peoples joints. It’s not as physical but it’s more physically demanding. You aren’t educated on why injuries happen so often so you make generalisations. Just stop it
Ant would have melted if he had to play in the 70s or 80s. He’s all mouth.
If a coach puts a player in a position where he’s destined to fail, who’s at fault the player or the coach? That’s the rudy gobert Terrance man situation in the 21 playoffs
I’m a Kentucky fan and I’ve always wanted to see kat on a contender and now with rob I am excited to see what they can do
Come on Casey. Saying Gobert got smoked by Terrence Mann is such a misstatement. The only people who say that don’t understand basketball. I know you do, so you’re just stirring the pot, pandering to the haters for views
“They will build them up just to tear them down” that’s soooo reeeeaaalll Dude🫡
What??? Me and my friends have been high on the Timberwolves core for years and still are. I’m hoping to see them make the conference finals this year and I fully expect them to be a top 3 seed.
The hate gobert gets is terrible. The jazz decided to pay him that money. I don’t listen to older players and even current players talk about the game. Basketball is t played in a 1v1 setting primarily. If Rudy is so overrated on defense, why don’t they go to the rim when he’s there. I also watch the wolves a lot and I can say, without gobert, our team would be a 7th seed at best. A 7 foot 2 center being switched on a 6 foot 3 guard, off course he’s getting cocked on the perimeter, it’s physically impossible for him to keep up consistently and that applies to wemby most the time as well. Ben Wallace is another all time great defender and he literally will go an entire game and score like 4 points. People having a problem with gobert because of the money he makes and they need to stop projecting their jealousy and hate on him. For every up and coming star, it’s only a matter of time before everyone that supports you turns on you. Anthony Edwards better learn that and don’t expect any better from nba media
The fact people act like Ant is talking any sense rather than just stirring the pot amazes me. He has a history of saying outlandish things. Like being the main star of team USA. Watch his press conferences with KAT he is constantly joking around and saying ridiculous things that no person with common sense thinks is actually right or accurate.
Hes just having fun and trolling for engagement. Its hilarious.
The T Wolves have the pieces to consistently compete and if anything last season proves then Ant is that guy to led his team to greatness
They need to take all Gobert's awards and Marcus Smarts and give them to Bam Adebyo.
Spurs fan here, I really like the Wolves, I also really like the Grizzlies. We need guys like Ant and Ja, Jimmy Butler etc.
If Chet wasn't on OK I'd really like the Thunder as well, because of what they add to the league.
Even though they'll probably be our biggest competitior in the not so distant future.
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Sorry Pistol Pete had the best true legal NBA original rule book handles and court vision and introduced all those sleek passes before Magic
no kidding.
In the "Pistol drops 68 on the Knicks" video, one can see him pass a tweener on the break at a full run with perfect placement for teammate to score - or see Pistol shamgod through 4 defenders to score off-hand ...., but these clowns won't get to those parts because they see it's filmed in B&W and quickly bugger out before the 2nd quarter
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So you support Trump sucking up to rich people over helping the working class?
Texas has a boatload of traffic and bad weather though
I don't really understand the Rudy Gobert hate ... he's a dirty player every once in awhile but not remotely as bad as Green and Embiid. He's a very good defender and rebounder ... rarely gets hurt. Plays hard. Overpaid? Sure.🤣 I don't like the T-wolves but I think they're legit because of their defense. If you have a good defense every year, you'll be a contender in the NBA.
He is a paper tiger. On paper, he provides elite defense and therefore teams should win with him. Has 4 DPOY
In reality he sucks bad at offense and can only defend in specific situations/areas so good offenses figure him out.He has a superstar contract that will burn out the team's cap space when he is really a role player
80s and 90s era are where the best defensive players of all time played
I literally said “WHAT?” out loud when I saw the title
if they are soo "skilled" the question "do they have enough offence behind edwards" wont be a thing
If you watch the games you’d understand that’s a bad narrative
Have you ever watched Dennis Rodman on offense outside of putbacks a tip in with a layup or dunk? No probably not it was insanely rare for him to take a shot outside of 5 feet and yet he is steal one of the greatest of all time. He focused on rebounding and defense. Rodman studied other players and their most common moves then when they tried to use those moves Rodman knew where they were going and would meet them at that spot to draw a charge or slap the ball out of their hands. zHe even looked like it was his first time running in the fast break because he had a high step like a gazelle and why did he do things like that? Well because if the other players are looking at him they are not looking at or for the ball. Distraction was a huge part of his game but in his day more players respected the work others put in because of what they got out of them on the court. Thank God social media wasn't thing in his day because what we saw out of Dennis with regular old media was to much.
For real, players are exposing themselves too much on social media these days, with the trash takes. Including former players trying to stay relevant.
Phil Jackson called Rodman the greatest athlete he'd ever worked with. Not MJ... but _DENNIS._
He had a unique genius for hoops and exploited it on the way to 5 chips. Worm played from an angle that nobody before or since has ever quite found out about, or could maintain as a viable play-style even if they DID understand it.
"No one talks about the Pistons, Blazers of Hornets", but I'd swap out the Hornies for the Bulls. As a Blazers fan, it's absolutely us, Chicago and Detroit for worst teams in the league when it comes to the front office, training staff and ownership, and it's clear.
It's the organization and who's ever in charge of picking the coach if you pick a coach that does not run an offensive system that's a championship system at the triangle office you ain't going nowhere the game hasn't changed players can't play defense like it's 1998 anymore or 2000 and you have to have an office assistant you can't shoot threes like your Steph Curry for far away when I can just dump it down low and get a foul and one from a big guy if you have big eyes you want to run a triangle offense if you do not it's a thrown away season
I thought Rudy actually said he could lock up prime shaq at some point last year
Thanks for not promoting gambling to minors, and great content as usual.
Come on Casey , we know Boston is the most hated team , that’s a load of BS
Not hate just jealousy, stop venting little girl.
Everytime ANT open his mouth the Basketball World is in Chaos always.
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Ant be trolling he wants to be hated it fuels some people
the only thing we hate are your ads
I love my Timberwolves personally
Mike Conley is the most underrated player on their team
we sucked for 20 idgaf if they hate us or not 😭
this team still underdog if they keep their defense tough
Rudy Gobert gets dunked on, he is bad defender.
Curry airballs a 3, he is still the best shooter.
I don’t hate Gobert. But Wemby was a better/ more dominant defender this last season
My only problem is their jerseys made them look like Tombow MONO erasers 😂
I'm not a hater, but I think Chuck is right that they will regress. They quietly lost some depth, Conley is only getting older and he was great last season. Same with Gobert.
It’s a fact that Micheal Jordan was vastly overrated
here before 10 mins and 1k views hell yeahhhh one of the best nba youtubers right now
Dennis Rodman rebounded, rebounded, and rebounded again. But couldn’t score. And he is respected. But Rudy? Oh heck nah,
Back in the day there was actually no more controversial player in any team sport in the '90s than Rodman. Dude got waaay more boos than Draymond or Rudy do now.
First, everyone outside Detroit hated _the entire Pistons team._ Or at least Laimbeer, Isaih and Mahorn - in addition to Rodman.
That was one thing, but when Dennis went to the Bulls and dyed his hair all of the disdain and hateraid got aimed at HIM - so he was heckled constantly everywhere he went. Nobody else on the Bulls was all that hate-able, some "anti-favoritism" talk against MJ, sure - but who else was hated - Kerr??
Ant spitting facts
Ironically, Gobert was in Utah, the Wolves are becoming the Donovan Mitchell Jazz.
Good enough to be a top team in the regular season but fold in the playoffs and no matter what they try to add its not enough to get over the hump.
The difference is ant can play defense while Donovan Mitchell can’t.
I still think it's better to make the playoffs each year than to miss them for 20 years.
Wemby was the players DPOY as a rookie. Gobert should be embarrassed.
Enough with ads already jeez
Grizzlies gotta call D Brooks back!!! This is unacceptable
Stop hating on my Luka orrrrr....
I like Gobert, so everybody dont hate him. I like him even when he lack in offence. He is very good at defense, especially in team defense. All signs late last season show that maybe nba allow play real defense again. If so, Gobert will be even more valuable than he was last season.
However, i cant cheer for wolves because Ant disrespect so many great players in past eras. I think that players back then had more skills than todays players. Back then players wasnt allow to travel, carry ball etc. Now people think todays players have more skills, NO THEY DONT! They just allowed do stuff what wasnt allowed in past eras. And also now teams are not allowed play defence. Ofc scoring is easier now than ever before. Its easy to score when take few extra steps, carry the ball, commit offece foul and get some freethrows after all that. In the past none of those things was legal.
No suprise here. US main media hates small market teams! Nuggets, Wolves. How is Knicks more legit than Wolves at the moment? That is lunatic..
Ant talking shit and choking in every big moment isn’t hate it’s calling him out for talking big and not showing up
He choked in game 7? He choked in game 4 of the wcf? He choked in game 4 of the Denver series in 23? He choked in game 4 of the suns series? He choked vs the Celtics in their first matchup in 24? He choked in game 1 of the nuggets? Get off your knees
Don't curse its not really intelligent
@@marcusfrm6263Choking in the conference finals? Atleast clean it up when you're done.
@@clarenceorozco5300 again he hit a game winner in the conference finals
@@marcusfrm6263 Doesn't matter,they lost and he's the number one option so he gets the blame
ant's only flaws are his inconsistency .
Luka Doncic was 3rd best Iso defender last season and 1 of 4 players to have over 100 possessions playing iso defender. I know he isn't guarding the most elite offenseive players on other teams but he's getting tested 3rd most in the NBA in iso and holding up most of the time so clearly this "he plays no defense/doesn't try" isn't true. This literally took a 3 min google search to look up the stats. He's not quick but anyone who watches the games will see he's good at anticipating were someone will go, walling them off or jumping them to steal the ball. Only fast elite offensive players blow past him and nobody in the league completely stops those guys. This is such a hater argument at this point, and like in the last video I watched and commented on Casey hates on the Mavs because he's a Rockets fan and its super annoying. I like watching a bunch of NBA RUclipsrs because they don't do the crap of ESPN or mainstream guys do which is just be homers for whoever they like and clearly not watch the games but Christ this is basically the same experience at this point. It's sad because I want to watch the videos but its so annoying becasue its so unnecessary and its not just Luka and the Mavs. It completley ruins the experience of an otherwise fine video. Criticism is one thing, slipping in a jab every oppurtunity and acting like Shaq and Skip and the others is just driving people off.
If Rudy has “gotten more hate than anyone, obviously” wouldn’t that make him the most hated player over Ant? 1:07 in and already a contradiction lol
I don’t like that everyone is hating on my team. 😢 We make it out of the first round of the playoffs for the 2nd time in our teams history and now everyone hates us 😭
You can't just say he is everyone favorite new player when he is not just cuz he is yours and media wanted him to will this past season that doesn't make it true
Can you do me a favour and do a video about your thoughts on the Blazers? Like why sooooo many people dislike them
7:22 Ayyo?
Definitely the Celtics
Don’t get me wrong I love the wolves and I love ant, but that comment about no one having skill back when Jordan was playing is just ridiculous
and by the way ant has won AAA state championship.
jordan era are far different from today’s era so it’s not right to compare those two whose better because both eras do have advantages or disadvantages over the other. back then players need to be tough on themselves to train everyday and get better on their skills. they just rely on what they understood based on what they were taught of, basically more of a textbook skill.
today’s players simply open their youtube and watch highlights and study every move they see. there are lots of tutorials already available and so convenient that they could just compile them all and then watch them over and over.
Ant wouldn't be doing shit if he wasn't just BORN vertically athletic. Dude carries the ball on every possession, and he is NOT a good natural shooter. He's got some stupid turnovers due to bad court vision, but he's a solid defender SOLELY because of his frame and quick twitch (which you are BORN with). He's awful at reading screens
He's a decent player on what was a bad team so people want to give him more credit than he deserves. He's nothing SPECIAL yet
The wolves will be fine this year, I don’t think they’ll make the finals over Dallas or even OKC but they’re getting close
"Hated"?
Are we saying like... "dont hate bro"?
I mean.... ive never seen anyone actually "hate" the TWolves but people like myself would be called "haters" for bringing up their bad franchise history, the current questionable FO and the poor team construction that includes a center thats an issue in the POs, a PF that should be a center or at least next to a stretch power forward/center and PG who, IMO, once had the chance to develop in to a Billups clone but instead is now simply..... nowhere near that and ready to retire.
Did they get "lucky"?
No.
They got lucky only in the sense that everyone in the West was either 1 or 2 RP pieces away OR needing to be healthy. In other words, the same "luck" everyone gets.
“Shouldn’t a max player be ABOVE average on offense?” Is it fair to say that Rudy’s O is just as bad as Luka’s D? Funny how the narrative spins.
They don’t have any depth right now. That’s the main issue
Magic leaves Barkley on read all
Day lol