It depends on the application and gear used…The cloud lift corrected my feedback issue I was having with the sm7b with rode-caster pro… no more feedback after turning on phantom power for the cloud lift…the phantom power is used for the gain only in cloud lifter and is isolated from the microphone I believe because it’s a phantom powered inline preamp… I tried for a year to stay away from the cloud lifter… but needed to push the gain too high in the rode-caster pro… I found that the cloud lifter it didn’t cost all that much more and now I’m sounding much better… I was told that I sound great now…
Mmm...this is a dynamic mic...it is meant for loud environements like live events. If you are singing loudly you don t need to turn the gain to 85%. The proof is that you are peaking. You mainly need the cloudlifter if you mainly speak because your level is intrinsically low and you would indeed need to turn all the way up the gain increasing the whitenoise. If you sing metal you don t need a cloudlifter
The cloud lifter allows the Mic to have a lower gain but louder sound which in theory makes it sound smoother/better, I wouldn’t get it if you’re just casually gaming, but if you’re a streamer or podcaster, this is an essential.
No it isn't. it entirely depends on your interface. Also if you know what you are doing a proper signal chain even live will resolve most if not all issues on one that doesn't make the cut gain wise.
Thank you so much mate! 🎉 This is so clear 😊 I'm a vocalist, and it is looking like i need the cloud filter, my interface is a scarlette solo 2nd gen, I'm gonna research if its powerful enough... Probably not though
Thank you so much for your informative video. I just purchased the the same mic and interface, and I couldn’t figure out why I was recording so low. Problem solved! Thank you!
First things first - Thank you for sharing your detailed thought process around using the Shure SM7B with and without the Fethead. Also, thank you for sharing the It was quite enlightening. That being said, I cannot agree with you on a few points, which I'd like to address in detail, so I can explain, why. This will be probably a load of text - so if you cannot be bothered to read that all, simply ignore this comment.
Differences in noise: Yes, there is a 2dB maybe 3dB difference between the two samples. But since the noise is exclusively noise in your room, it is save to say that this difference is caused by a different signal strength between the two recordings. To put this another way: You'd need to either turn down the gain on the recording with just the interface a bit, or turn up the recording of the interface with the cloud lifter to get to the same result. The best thing to make sure both recordings a the same loudness, use a tone generator website on your smartphone after your dialed in the gain with the cloud lifter at a set volume and place the phone speaker directly before the microphone. And without the cloudlifter, do the same. With the microphone and your smartphone positioned exactly the same, on both tests and with the smartphone set to the same volume for each test, you can rest assured, that human error isn't a factor here anymore. Let's do some testing! Using a plug with a 150 Ohm resistor between pins 2 and 3, i emulated the load of most dynamic microphones (including the Shure SM7B) and did a reading of the noise at 84% gain on my MOTU M4, which is similar in terms of noise to the UMC202HD. I got a reading of -79dBFS. Leveled to the same volume with a Tritonaudio Fethead (similar to the Cloudlifter) I managed to get to the exact same noise of of -77dBFS. I presume - with the gain set for a signal of -24/-20 dBFS talking normally - your microphone picks up roughly -72 to -68 dBFS of noise. That would be similar to my room with a PC in it.
The takeaway: Unless you use your SM7B in a *really* quiet room on a big distance, there are only very few interfaces that actually need you to use a cloudlifter for getting rid of self-noise. Why is that? Because, *any preamp creates noise.* An additional preamp, like the Cloudlifter or Fethead create very consinderably less noise than the preamp of your interface or mixer, *IF you have a noisy preamp AND you need to crank the gain there.* In that case, the difference in noise is why the noise gets lower. The issue with your Test is: Your interface without the Cloudlifter runs at 84%, as you said yourself. If you lowered the Self-noise 15% below the maximum, even a very noisy Interface, like - for example my old Steinberg UR22 Mk II gets considerably less noisy. From -64dBFS down to -73dBFS. And the same is true for my Behringer UMC202HD, which goes from -68dbFS to -77dbFS. Or my MOTU M4, which goes from -69dBFS down to -78dBFS. Lets test that! Speaking of which - i tested with my Microphone (a RODE Procaster) at max gain and dialed the interface down to match the same test tone volume with my Fethead in place. The Noise without the Fethead went down to -98dBFS, which is outrageously low. But as soon as i put the Fethead, the noise went up to -70dbFS, which is no audible difference at all from the -69dBFS without the Fethead. And the Behringer would fare similar to that. So you get either *very little* or literally *no difference* whatsoever in self-noise, using an additional preamp with an interface as low noise as yours.
Damaged by Phantom power? Dynamic microphones with a Transformer don't care about phantom power. Well, at least, as long as they have a transformer and the pins of the connections layed out correctly on both sides. If its not, your dynamic microphone would probably get almost instand damage. *Transformerless Dynamic microphones, such as the SM7B will likely be damaged!* Ribbon microphones as well. Peaking at Max Gain? I already explained, that your noise difference comes due to a hotter signal on the interface alone compared to the interface with the lower setting and the cloudlifter in place. And since I already see that difference only with the noise test, I feel prepared to say: If you peak, you simply did set the gain too high. Honestly... I did run my super noisy old Steinberg UR22 Mk II with my Procaster for quite some time at like 90% of gain. And I literally peaked **NEVER** - Not once.
How much gain is actually needed? Yes, its true, the higher the gain, the higher the signal to noise ratio, the less noise. But: The Noise floor is limited by several factors: Nowadays, almost any audio interface allows 24 Bit recordings. This enables for dynamic range or SNR of *up to* 144dB. Audio interface on the marked right now, no matter the price, can reach this dynamic range / SNR. The way the signal is transformed limits us to about -132dB of SNR, IF You have the best of the best. We're talking super expensive high end studio equipment here, nothing anybody would have at home. The UMC202HD for example has a dynamic range of 100dB(A) according to Julian Krause, 110dB(A) if you believe Behringer. So we're already limited to -100dBFS as the absolute noise floor. Next limit is the noise you add by adding gain. As we learned before, the dynamic range of the interface with a dynamic microphone connected is limited by the amount of noise your preamp does output with whatever gain level. Remember: Unless you crank the gain on a really noisy interface real hard, your self-noise will pretty much assured always be way below what noise you have to deal with from the microphone. So the higher you turn the gain, the closer you are to clipping level. On the other hand , you want to be as far away from the self-noise floor of your interface. On my MOTU M4 i got a reading of -108.4dBFS, with no gain at all. If i set the gain to match My current main microphone, a Shure Beta 58A for a signal of -20dBFS talking normally, i get -82dBFS of self-noise. The noise in my room at the matching gain for mot Beta 58A registers at -72dBFS. A faint whisper is at -42dBFS here. Let's sum it all up: My regular talking level is at -20dBFS, so i have 52dBFS of dynamic range over the noise floor in my room, which is the loudest noise. My interface has a noise floor of -82dBFS, which is half as loud as the room noise. With this I can become 17dBFS louder than normal talk, before the signal clips. And at this rate, that would be legitimate shouting!
But lets say, I wanted more overhead. Alright, fine. For that, I lower my gain. Suddenly my interface has a self noise of -92dBFS. But thats still fine, because i measured -108dBFS as the absolute lowest possible noise floor of my audio interface, which is like 3.5 times quieter. And my room noise went from 72dBFS down to -82dBFS. So the signal to noise ratio (SNR), talking normally did not change at all. And adding whatever amount of software gain needed in post would not hurt the SNR at all. And now I have a ridiculous amount of headroom before clipping the microphone. And since i presume that you room as a similar noise floor to mine and i see -100dBFS as the lowest noise floor with no distortions for your interface, i'd say, simply go down to like -24dBFS or maybe even -28dBFS, by reducing the gain. On your interface, this will probably not hurt your recordings, since your room noise is the loudest part of your noise issues by a long shot anyways.
Speaking from experience unless you have a very old audio interface such as the gen 1 focusrite scarlett, you probably do not need a cloudlifter, even very budget interfaces these days like the m audio air tend to have pre amps that you can push very high to get the gain you need with very high quality retained. regardless you will want a good vocal signal chain anyway with this mic that will resolve any issue, (downward expander, or noise gate compression, eq, limiter ect... ) and if you aren't prepared to learn how to do that you are probably better off with a less demanding microphone anyway.
Any audio professional would advise to NOT use phantom power with any Dynamic microphone (if a mic activator isn't being used) because it CAN damage the microphone over time.
@@Nicktechnoo except the manual actually says it can be placed on a pre with phantom power without causing damage. It actually does nothing. While I typically agree with this advice the sm7b has circuitry to prevent issues with phantom power. Can't always avoid multi channels of phantom power so this can come in handy for those scenarios.
Alright here's the deal... Cloudlifters and basic Fetheads need phantom power to feed their preamp circuits but they do not pass the phantom power juice to the microphone itself. The main and only mics these days which could get messed with by phantom power are vintage ribbon mics and maybe some old dynamics. If anyone can prove me wrong on this please give examples.
After a year now what are your thoughts on the Shure? I have a blue yeti and yes i've streamed but Im in no way even serious about it. With my tax refund i was looking to maybe sell my yeti and upgrade to something more "serious". Do you have any regrets, alternatives (cheaper or more expensive), or updated thoughts? I have a Focusrite Solo 2nd gen which I've read works with the Shure but like u said in this video most likely have to crank up to 85%.
Thank you for this!! One question though, I’m using a Maono soundcard which only has 3.5mm connection in the back, so I have to use xlr to 3.5mm jack cable. Would that affect the sound quality even with cloudlifter? Thank you 🙏🏼
Hi, I want to use this mic for everyday zoom talking, discord and podcasting. do you think its worth to buy a cloud lifter or to just buy a scarlet 2i2 or a go xlr mini?
No, you should not. The SSL 2 pres already have a very low EIN of -130.5 dB, which is equal to or even quieter than the Cloudlifter itself and has 62 dB of gain which is more than necessary. The Cloudlifter will probably only make your noise floor worse with the SSL.
I’m using the presonus audiobox 1818vsl and without phantom power it sounds like its pouring rain. With it though there is a really known static noise and in order to get rid of it I have to use a sound suppression filter and it takes it away but then it’s kind of quite and it sounds all muddy. Will a cloudlifter fix this or is my issue somewhere else?
Just got my Shure SM7B plus Cloud lifter plus a Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 (3rd Gen). Still cant get a loud enough signal. If I crank it to 80% or more its loud enough but it picks up my room noise and keyboard and all that. Other peoples mics sound so good but mine just aint working and I tested without the cloud lifter as well so the cloud lifter is working properly. Is there any software you use or are you sure this is 100% your mic audio completely unedited? Like if you go to discord you dont even need a gate set or anything?
This recording is 100% un edited. With my cloud lifter I use maybe 40% gain at the max. Without it I have to use around 80% gain. Are you sure you’re using phantom power when the cloud lifter is in use? If not, it will not work properly
@@Nicktechnoo Yeah Im definitely using phantom power. Ive been struggling watching countless videos for 3 days now lmao its so annoying I cant get it loud enough like anyone elses Shure SM7Bs. They sound so good but mine just isn't
@@JustGavinBennett You don't think your cloudlifter could be defective do you? Is their a significant difference in volume compared to when you don't use it?
@@Nicktechnoo Oh yeah the 25db boost is noticeable I tried without it as well. That part is definitely working. It just still seems too quiet even when I'm right up to it plus it picks up lots of noise since it still needs to be turned to 75% or so. I just want it to hit the yellow bar in OBS but without background noise being constantly picked up lmao its super annoying
@@JustGavinBennett Yeah that is SUPER strange indeed. I know it works great with the scarlet 2i2 as well so i'm confused as to what you problem could be. Have you tried using another program to test it out? Maybe download Audacity and try recording sample. If that sample sounds great then it might be an OBS issue
Good info. I almost bought the SM7B but it seems like it might not be a good choice for me, too many accessories needed. I am planning to record podcasts, Utube videos, meditations and sometimes I might yell or be too loud. Could you make some videos or comment about which would be descent mic choices for these?
Unless you have a really shitty audio interface with absolute trash preamps, you should crank the gain as much as possible until your sound source lands right around -18 to -12 dBFS. The higher your preamp gain, the better your signal-to-noise ratio will be. Higher gain results in lower noise compared to your actual sound source.
HEY LETZ ZAVE MONDEY VECAUZ IM A ZTREAMED AND I DONT NEED ZO MUCH QUADITY... *Ends up spending 400 bucks on an XLR mic + 150 on an audio interfave + 10 bucks on an XLR cable
I’m gonna be honest. Not worth a grand for all of it. I use a Corsair hs65 pro headset mic and everyone thinks I have an sm7b. I bought it used for 60$ on Amazon 😂
You can always use software plug ins to improve any cheap microphone to sound better for sure. However, side-by-side a $50 to $200 mic will never compete with an SM7B running through a high-quality mixer.
Great video except the amateur problem with most of these types of videos, as usual. Talking in between an A/B test. Please. do. not. talk. in. between. when conducting an A/B test.
Exactly what I was looking for !!
Me to yo tambien
It depends on the application and gear used…The cloud lift corrected my feedback issue I was having with the sm7b with rode-caster pro… no more feedback after turning on phantom power for the cloud lift…the phantom power is used for the gain only in cloud lifter and is isolated from the microphone I believe because it’s a phantom powered inline preamp… I tried for a year to stay away from the cloud lifter… but needed to push the gain too high in the rode-caster pro… I found that the cloud lifter it didn’t cost all that much more and now I’m sounding much better… I was told that I sound great now…
thank you for the noisefloor test! that's exactly i was looking to hear
Mmm...this is a dynamic mic...it is meant for loud environements like live events. If you are singing loudly you don t need to turn the gain to 85%. The proof is that you are peaking. You mainly need the cloudlifter if you mainly speak because your level is intrinsically low and you would indeed need to turn all the way up the gain increasing the whitenoise.
If you sing metal you don t need a cloudlifter
False
@@redrumahab5538care to say why? Thank you
The cloud lifter allows the Mic to have a lower gain but louder sound which in theory makes it sound smoother/better, I wouldn’t get it if you’re just casually gaming, but if you’re a streamer or podcaster, this is an essential.
Exactly.
No it isn't. it entirely depends on your interface. Also if you know what you are doing a proper signal chain even live will resolve most if not all issues on one that doesn't make the cut gain wise.
Me who just spent 600$ on fl studio, 600$ sm7b 300$ Scarlett, and now a 150$ cloud lifter, just to record covers ill never release 😅😅
lol😂 yess! Is so expensive 😭
Not long started getting into producing music and im just telling myself once I have it I have it 🤣
Maybe, consider releasing it!
just have fun
I was hoping that i don´t "need" it, but i do ! :D
Thanks for this helpful Video, well structured and on point.
10/10 !
Thank you! This is the exact info I needed before buying this mic for recording music.
Awesome vid man. Straight to the point and great comparison with/without. I have an opportunity to purchase for $100 so I think I am gonna do it .
Thank you so much mate! 🎉 This is so clear 😊 I'm a vocalist, and it is looking like i need the cloud filter, my interface is a scarlette solo 2nd gen, I'm gonna research if its powerful enough... Probably not though
Hey. Great video brother. Answered a lot of my questions.
Thank you for this video! It was super helpful!
As a singer I need to get the cloud lifter 👌🏽 thanks!
Very informative video! Thank you!
That was exactly what I needed to hear! Thanks!
Thank you so much for your informative video. I just purchased the the same mic and interface, and I couldn’t figure out why I was recording so low. Problem solved! Thank you!
You also can use a FET head for the shure SM7B, which are normally price at about 60-70 (GBP) or like 80-90 (USD)
Excellent video. Thank you.
thank you for this video because i am only a student and a content creator from facebook maybe some time in twitch
Great review 🙌
a cracking video Nick! thank you.
Excellent video and information. God bless you .
Why introduce noise with a cloud lifter?
Really good vid bro!
First things first - Thank you for sharing your detailed thought process around using the Shure SM7B with and without the Fethead. Also, thank you for sharing the It was quite enlightening. That being said, I cannot agree with you on a few points, which I'd like to address in detail, so I can explain, why. This will be probably a load of text - so if you cannot be bothered to read that all, simply ignore this comment.
Differences in noise:
Yes, there is a 2dB maybe 3dB difference between the two samples. But since the noise is exclusively noise in your room, it is save to say that this difference is caused by a different signal strength between the two recordings. To put this another way: You'd need to either turn down the gain on the recording with just the interface a bit, or turn up the recording of the interface with the cloud lifter to get to the same result. The best thing to make sure both recordings a the same loudness, use a tone generator website on your smartphone after your dialed in the gain with the cloud lifter at a set volume and place the phone speaker directly before the microphone. And without the cloudlifter, do the same. With the microphone and your smartphone positioned exactly the same, on both tests and with the smartphone set to the same volume for each test, you can rest assured, that human error isn't a factor here anymore.
Let's do some testing!
Using a plug with a 150 Ohm resistor between pins 2 and 3, i emulated the load of most dynamic microphones (including the Shure SM7B) and did a reading of the noise at 84% gain on my MOTU M4, which is similar in terms of noise to the UMC202HD. I got a reading of -79dBFS. Leveled to the same volume with a Tritonaudio Fethead (similar to the Cloudlifter) I managed to get to the exact same noise of of -77dBFS. I presume - with the gain set for a signal of -24/-20 dBFS talking normally - your microphone picks up roughly -72 to -68 dBFS of noise. That would be similar to my room with a PC in it.
The takeaway:
Unless you use your SM7B in a *really* quiet room on a big distance, there are only very few interfaces that actually need you to use a cloudlifter for getting rid of self-noise. Why is that? Because, *any preamp creates noise.* An additional preamp, like the Cloudlifter or Fethead create very consinderably less noise than the preamp of your interface or mixer, *IF you have a noisy preamp AND you need to crank the gain there.* In that case, the difference in noise is why the noise gets lower. The issue with your Test is: Your interface without the Cloudlifter runs at 84%, as you said yourself. If you lowered the Self-noise 15% below the maximum, even a very noisy Interface, like - for example my old Steinberg UR22 Mk II gets considerably less noisy. From -64dBFS down to -73dBFS. And the same is true for my Behringer UMC202HD, which goes from -68dbFS to -77dbFS. Or my MOTU M4, which goes from -69dBFS down to -78dBFS.
Lets test that!
Speaking of which - i tested with my Microphone (a RODE Procaster) at max gain and dialed the interface down to match the same test tone volume with my Fethead in place. The Noise without the Fethead went down to -98dBFS, which is outrageously low. But as soon as i put the Fethead, the noise went up to -70dbFS, which is no audible difference at all from the -69dBFS without the Fethead. And the Behringer would fare similar to that. So you get either *very little* or literally *no difference* whatsoever in self-noise, using an additional preamp with an interface as low noise as yours.
Damaged by Phantom power?
Dynamic microphones with a Transformer don't care about phantom power. Well, at least, as long as they have a transformer and the pins of the connections layed out correctly on both sides. If its not, your dynamic microphone would probably get almost instand damage. *Transformerless Dynamic microphones, such as the SM7B will likely be damaged!* Ribbon microphones as well.
Peaking at Max Gain?
I already explained, that your noise difference comes due to a hotter signal on the interface alone compared to the interface with the lower setting and the cloudlifter in place. And since I already see that difference only with the noise test, I feel prepared to say: If you peak, you simply did set the gain too high. Honestly... I did run my super noisy old Steinberg UR22 Mk II with my Procaster for quite some time at like 90% of gain. And I literally peaked **NEVER** - Not once.
How much gain is actually needed?
Yes, its true, the higher the gain, the higher the signal to noise ratio, the less noise. But: The Noise floor is limited by several factors: Nowadays, almost any audio interface allows 24 Bit recordings. This enables for dynamic range or SNR of *up to* 144dB. Audio interface on the marked right now, no matter the price, can reach this dynamic range / SNR. The way the signal is transformed limits us to about -132dB of SNR, IF You have the best of the best. We're talking super expensive high end studio equipment here, nothing anybody would have at home. The UMC202HD for example has a dynamic range of 100dB(A) according to Julian Krause, 110dB(A) if you believe Behringer. So we're already limited to -100dBFS as the absolute noise floor. Next limit is the noise you add by adding gain. As we learned before, the dynamic range of the interface with a dynamic microphone connected is limited by the amount of noise your preamp does output with whatever gain level.
Remember:
Unless you crank the gain on a really noisy interface real hard, your self-noise will pretty much assured always be way below what noise you have to deal with from the microphone. So the higher you turn the gain, the closer you are to clipping level. On the other hand , you want to be as far away from the self-noise floor of your interface. On my MOTU M4 i got a reading of -108.4dBFS, with no gain at all. If i set the gain to match My current main microphone, a Shure Beta 58A for a signal of -20dBFS talking normally, i get -82dBFS of self-noise. The noise in my room at the matching gain for mot Beta 58A registers at -72dBFS. A faint whisper is at -42dBFS here. Let's sum it all up: My regular talking level is at -20dBFS, so i have 52dBFS of dynamic range over the noise floor in my room, which is the loudest noise. My interface has a noise floor of -82dBFS, which is half as loud as the room noise. With this I can become 17dBFS louder than normal talk, before the signal clips. And at this rate, that would be legitimate shouting!
But lets say, I wanted more overhead. Alright, fine. For that, I lower my gain. Suddenly my interface has a self noise of -92dBFS. But thats still fine, because i measured -108dBFS as the absolute lowest possible noise floor of my audio interface, which is like 3.5 times quieter. And my room noise went from 72dBFS down to -82dBFS. So the signal to noise ratio (SNR), talking normally did not change at all. And adding whatever amount of software gain needed in post would not hurt the SNR at all. And now I have a ridiculous amount of headroom before clipping the microphone. And since i presume that you room as a similar noise floor to mine and i see -100dBFS as the lowest noise floor with no distortions for your interface, i'd say, simply go down to like -24dBFS or maybe even -28dBFS, by reducing the gain. On your interface, this will probably not hurt your recordings, since your room noise is the loudest part of your noise issues by a long shot anyways.
Can you plug multiple mics into one cloudlifter or would I have get more cloudlifter?
Speaking from experience unless you have a very old audio interface such as the gen 1 focusrite scarlett, you probably do not need a cloudlifter, even very budget interfaces these days like the m audio air tend to have pre amps that you can push very high to get the gain you need with very high quality retained. regardless you will want a good vocal signal chain anyway with this mic that will resolve any issue, (downward expander, or noise gate compression, eq, limiter ect... ) and if you aren't prepared to learn how to do that you are probably better off with a less demanding microphone anyway.
phantom power will not damage the SM7B, not even over time.
Any audio professional would advise to NOT use phantom power with any Dynamic microphone (if a mic activator isn't being used) because it CAN damage the microphone over time.
@@Nicktechnoo except the manual actually says it can be placed on a pre with phantom power without causing damage. It actually does nothing. While I typically agree with this advice the sm7b has circuitry to prevent issues with phantom power. Can't always avoid multi channels of phantom power so this can come in handy for those scenarios.
@@Nicktechnoo I disagree.
Alright here's the deal... Cloudlifters and basic Fetheads need phantom power to feed their preamp circuits but they do not pass the phantom power juice to the microphone itself. The main and only mics these days which could get messed with by phantom power are vintage ribbon mics and maybe some old dynamics. If anyone can prove me wrong on this please give examples.
Yep
Only headphone users will hear the clock ticking in the background on the white noise test
Hey! I just got the shure and i record RUclips videos from my mac computer iPhone iPad - do I need that audio interface? Thanks for your feedback ‘
Great review man! Thanks. Btw, what mic stand/boom are you using?
This is the one I use! www.zzounds.com/item--MUPMBS7500?siid=183457
Nice video! Hey so there’s two options for the mic, if I buy the SM7dB (Built in Preamp) I guess I don’t need the cloudlifter anymore right?
That is correct.
i feel like if i turn up the gain on my sm7b, its gonna make the white noise louder :(
Thank you sir
But i can remove the noise¿ no? I sjould buy the new sm7db?
After a year now what are your thoughts on the Shure? I have a blue yeti and yes i've streamed but Im in no way even serious about it. With my tax refund i was looking to maybe sell my yeti and upgrade to something more "serious". Do you have any regrets, alternatives (cheaper or more expensive), or updated thoughts? I have a Focusrite Solo 2nd gen which I've read works with the Shure but like u said in this video most likely have to crank up to 85%.
Thank you for this!! One question though, I’m using a Maono soundcard which only has 3.5mm connection in the back, so I have to use xlr to 3.5mm jack cable. Would that affect the sound quality even with cloudlifter? Thank you 🙏🏼
Did you end up getting a Cloudlifter? I have the same soundcard.
Do I have to buy Focusrite as well or only cloudlifter ?
Thanks man
Hi, I want to use this mic for everyday zoom talking, discord and podcasting. do you think its worth to buy a cloud lifter or to just buy a scarlet 2i2 or a go xlr mini?
Oooo CloudLifter!
You could save those 150 dollars ever just combine the sm7b with an elgato wave xlr audio mixer that can boost until +75db of gain…
isnt the mixer also another $150?
Wait so if I have a goxlr I do not need a cloud lifter ??
What audio interface are you using?
What do you have you mic volume set on windows?
Hi, I bought this shure sm 7b microphone, but to register my voice is too low, will this filter help me if I buy it?
Just get the Klark Teknik MIC BOOSTER CT 1
Excelente!
Do u need a mixer/cloudlifter if u dont stream/record vids?
I ordered the SM7B. I will use it for live broadcasts. I'm using SSL 2+, do you think I should buy Cloudlifter?
No, you should not. The SSL 2 pres already have a very low EIN of -130.5 dB, which is equal to or even quieter than the Cloudlifter itself and has 62 dB of gain which is more than necessary. The Cloudlifter will probably only make your noise floor worse with the SSL.
I don't hear anything on my bose QC35II, am I deaf?
I’m using the presonus audiobox 1818vsl and without phantom power it sounds like its pouring rain. With it though there is a really known static noise and in order to get rid of it I have to use a sound suppression filter and it takes it away but then it’s kind of quite and it sounds all muddy. Will a cloudlifter fix this or is my issue somewhere else?
I have a audio box usb 96 and I also get tons of static
what settings do i have to change if i use a cloud lifter??
Dynamite > CloudLifter
Currently using a GoXLR with 7m7b. Would you think its useful to use this with it?
No, the GOXLR outputs enough gain so the cloudlifter is not needed
Just got my Shure SM7B plus Cloud lifter plus a Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 (3rd Gen). Still cant get a loud enough signal. If I crank it to 80% or more its loud enough but it picks up my room noise and keyboard and all that. Other peoples mics sound so good but mine just aint working and I tested without the cloud lifter as well so the cloud lifter is working properly. Is there any software you use or are you sure this is 100% your mic audio completely unedited? Like if you go to discord you dont even need a gate set or anything?
This recording is 100% un edited. With my cloud lifter I use maybe 40% gain at the max. Without it I have to use around 80% gain. Are you sure you’re using phantom power when the cloud lifter is in use? If not, it will not work properly
@@Nicktechnoo Yeah Im definitely using phantom power. Ive been struggling watching countless videos for 3 days now lmao its so annoying I cant get it loud enough like anyone elses Shure SM7Bs. They sound so good but mine just isn't
@@JustGavinBennett You don't think your cloudlifter could be defective do you? Is their a significant difference in volume compared to when you don't use it?
@@Nicktechnoo Oh yeah the 25db boost is noticeable I tried without it as well. That part is definitely working. It just still seems too quiet even when I'm right up to it plus it picks up lots of noise since it still needs to be turned to 75% or so. I just want it to hit the yellow bar in OBS but without background noise being constantly picked up lmao its super annoying
@@JustGavinBennett Yeah that is SUPER strange indeed. I know it works great with the scarlet 2i2 as well so i'm confused as to what you problem could be. Have you tried using another program to test it out? Maybe download Audacity and try recording sample. If that sample sounds great then it might be an OBS issue
Would the GoXLR Mini be enough for this mic?
yes, the mini just has less functionality with the mixer and such. still has enough power to run it.
Is dbx 286s ok 👍?
good vid
Do you need a Cloudlifter? Quick answer…YUP!!!!!
Good info. I almost bought the SM7B but it seems like it might not be a good choice for me, too many accessories needed. I am planning to record podcasts, Utube videos, meditations and sometimes I might yell or be too loud. Could you make some videos or comment about which would be descent mic choices for these?
Fifine Ampligame $40 bucks plug-n-play USB, audio quality out of this world, believe me...
You can put a compressor on your mic channel in your DAW to prevent spikes and lulls in audio. The plugin or hardware "compressor" levels audio.
What happened to that dream :(
Now that the goxlr mini is out would you recommend I get the goxlr min8 over the focusrite scarlet?
Unless you have a really shitty audio interface with absolute trash preamps, you should crank the gain as much as possible until your sound source lands right around -18 to -12 dBFS. The higher your preamp gain, the better your signal-to-noise ratio will be. Higher gain results in lower noise compared to your actual sound source.
HEY LETZ ZAVE MONDEY VECAUZ IM A ZTREAMED AND I DONT NEED ZO MUCH QUADITY...
*Ends up spending 400 bucks on an XLR mic + 150 on an audio interfave + 10 bucks on an XLR cable
so, yes it does is the short answer I guess.
It sounds quiet in my expensive Presonus 1824c
better to get a better interface with better amps.
I have the x32 rack mount mixer. With Midas preamps. Still need a cloud lifter
@@redrumahab5538 Don't need a mic amp when they already have one.
I’m gonna be honest. Not worth a grand for all of it. I use a Corsair hs65 pro headset mic and everyone thinks I have an sm7b. I bought it used for 60$ on Amazon 😂
You can always use software plug ins to improve any cheap microphone to sound better for sure. However, side-by-side a $50 to $200 mic will never compete with an SM7B running through a high-quality mixer.
Great video except the amateur problem with most of these types of videos, as usual. Talking in between an A/B test. Please. do. not. talk. in. between. when conducting an A/B test.
Okay William
Is it just me but even with headphones at 100% this entire video is just too quiet
Your audio sounds pretty crud dude...
you might need some new speakers or headphones then ;)
tooooo long ! nice info but wyyyyyyy to long man !
I’m getting feed back by anything loud enough to hear the mic. I’m lost in the sauce on setting up a mic