FAA Regulations & Rules for Recreational RC Pilots
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- FAA Regulations & Rules for Recreational RC Pilots
This video will go over FAA regulations and rules for recreational RC pilots.
The www.FAA.gov website has useful information on what needs to be done to fly a drone in the United States.
There are three main regulations that recreational radio control (RC) pilots must follow. Pilots must register their drones. For recreational pilots only one registration number is needed for all of their drones.
Next, all pilots must take the TRUST (The Recreational UAS Safety Test), a free exam that takes around 30 minutes to complete.
Finally the remote ID regulation was finalized and published on Sept 16, 2023. Due to a delay in remote ID broadcast modules, enforcement of the regulation will not occur until after March 16, 2024.
The FAA also discusses various rules recreational pilots must follow, such as flying in uncontrolled airspace and keeping your model within visual sight.
Finally, I have a discussion on where you can fly your RC plane.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
00:21 - Overview
01:43 - Drone background
03:32 - FAA Drone Timeline
07:46 - FAA Big Three
14:27 - FAA website
15:18 - FAA rules for recreational pilots
17:03 - Where to fly
Any Joe Blow can build an ultralight and fly it with no pilot certificate or approval in Class G airspace but a small RC airplane has to adhere to a growing list of FAA oversight.
Not really. Read Part 103 which are the regs that guide ultralight flight. There is a lot to follow and know, much of which is what not to do. And the FAA is crystal clear to the ultralight community, "If this is too hard for you to do, we'll drop the hammer with a real set of regulations." The ultralight folks know they have a great deal, and stay within their lane. Same could apply to us if we could ever figure out how to not fly into controlled airspace without a clearance. Tim
Thank you for doing this presentation. I’m currently stationed in Korea and was looking forward to building and flying RC aircraft again when I return. I first heard about this from one of our SUAS operators. We were both confused about the way forward. Not so much now. Again, thank you!
Peter: Happy to assist! Tim
Peter: Happy to assist! Tim
Thank you Tim!
Anytime! Tim
Thanks Tim, you just saved me $85.
Don: Very cool! Tim
The only requirements I know of is to first make sure your batteries are fully charged,the second thing is to than fly safely follow the AMA safety code and that's all.Remain clear of all full scale aircraft,stay below 400 feet AGL and a minimum of 3 miles from a towered airport.
And stay out of controlled airspace unless you have a clearance. 😳😊 Tim
@@TimMcKay56and ensure the Remote ID is operating if flying outside a FRIA.
@@TimMcKay56I believe you’re incorrect. You can fly in Class E airspace without FAA approval. Class E airspace is controlled.
@@Ts-zy4bw I'm not sure I agree with you. Drones, as they cannot see and avoid nor talk with controllers, can only fly in controlled airspace if the FAA "pre-clears" them for this flight. In this way the FAA knows the drones are in the airspace somewhere and can control traffic as needed. Tim
Good Info.. Thank you Tim🙂👍
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Thanks for the informative video. I just got an rc plane kinda thought there would be set rules from the faa now that the rules are online. Thanks again for sharing. I would highly advise people who are starting out with the hobby to watch your video.
William: Many thanks for checking in! Tim
very informative
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Just noticed what look like Air Force command wings on the peg board. That helps explain the WAAS lesson from the video a couple months ago :-D
No worries . . . actually Master Navigator wings, but I did a lot of civilian flying. 😊👍🏻 Tim
When I fly (recreational only) I wear a small satchel over my shoulder. In this bag I keep a copy of all my paperwork, AMA card, FAA registration, TRUST completion code, and some printed FAA regulations as to the type of aircraft I'm flying. I also carry a photo of a camera quad (I fly fixed wing only) and a picture of some dude wearing FPV goggles, just to let people know what all the hubbub's about.
Good stuff! Tim
@@TimMcKay56Excellent idea. I'm going to put a laminated copy of my FAA cert and wear it on a lanyard.
Are all of these rules applies only for "drones" over 250g or all weights? You mentioned that it shouldn't be registered but what about exam?
Any RC plane/drone under 250 grams does not need to be registered, thus no remote ID. However, any model that flies needs to stay out of controlled airspace without a clearance, etc. Tim
If you have a FRN number for Amateur radio do you need one for RC model flying ?
You need to comply with FAA regs. Sounds like you are referencing FCC regs? Tim
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So are you saying I have to take a test through the FAA and get a remote tracking system for a lil 300 gram, non gps RC helicopter I fly in my backyard??
Short answer is “Yes”. The TRUST test takes 30 mins, good for a lifetime, and you’ll actually learn something. The helicopter might come with Standard Remote ID installed, do check before purchasing a module. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 this is absurd
No, it's insane. Since 911 they assume everyone is a terrorist (and now everything is a drone). That's where this insanity came from, also idiots who cause problems with their toy drones.
If I put servos on a chuck glider with no motor and only rubber band launch it to control the descending glide in my back yard, do I need remote ID if it ends up being over 250 grams?
Probably not. The FAA rules on remote ID for free flight and control line models are unclear at best. You should be OK without the need for RID.
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Very informative. Please consider doing another video on the commercial license.
Will do! Tim
Oh boy! It's complicated, and would require a 10 part series!
Does Tim have a part 107? Tim, do you own a quad copter drone? That would be important for someone doing an instructional video on it.
@@RebelByNatureI have my Part 107 certificate, do not fly drones. 😊 Tim
@@RebelByNatureI have my Part 107 certificate, do not fly drones. 😊 Tim
As I see it, the only way for the Secret Service to guard against another drone crashing into anywhere on the White House grounds or building, and NOT endanger the public with stray bullets, is to 1) use either a Lazer weapon or 2) deny control/take control of the drone via RF jamming or hacking. Any bullets fired to disable a drone will come down who knows where!
You are exactly correct. These types of systems may well exist, highly classified of course. Tim
Quick! We must create new and more laws that stop someone from flying a drone into restricted airspace!!!
You know, if folks did not fly into controlled/restricted airspace without a clearance, we likely would not have many of these tyepes of rules. Tim
I fly hang gliders and paragliders, Ido not have to register my aircraft. why is that? Appearently my slope soarer more dangerous than my paragllider.
The reason is gliders and paragliders are big enough to see, thus pilot identification fairly easy to do. This is not the case with drones. Tim
How does the SCOTUS Chevron Deference decision effect this?
No idea.
Nice video, the FAA love people like you lapping up their utter rubbish. Yes, you will get idiots flying where they shouldn't, but us professionals that have been flying many years at model flying clubs without incident fall into these regulations for no reason and its wrong. I live in europe, I will never register and fall victim to a corrupt agency and i will continue to fly in a safe manner, including fpv under 400ft. The FAA and CAA (UK) need to sort out their manned aviation first.
Merry Xmas to you as well! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Sorry pal, merry Christmas!!
@@Bishop-FPV No worries. These initial regs for modelers are a non-event in the grand scheme of things. The modeling (i.e. drone) community pretty much asked for these with non-stop violations of controlled airspace, but that is another discussion. And if you really want to see a bunch of FAA regulations, try flying under Part 121 operations some day! Tim
@@gordonmckay4523 I was not having a dig, I think its great that you put your effort in to helping others that will abide by the rules, its just a shame you have to. The FAA have put us all into one group meaning we are the bad boys and that is just not true. All they want to do is open up the skies for the likes of google and amazon (drone deliveries) because that is where the money is. Then you are going to have remote ID, PTF Pay to Fly... just when you thought it couldn´t get any worse.
After seeing the field you fly at, are you in Texas? It looks familiar somehow.
Outside Atlanta. 😊 Very nice field as well. Tim
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Thanks for clarifying that control-line, free-flight, balloons and kites are not impacted (yet).
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Be aware that the prior FAA reauthorization has language about tethered aircraft (something about 3 pounds), and tethered balloons. So, there is the possibility of future regulations.
@@DumbledoreMcCracken If you are flying CL, *UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU USE THE WORD "TETHERED"!!*. Memorize the phrase "not a UAS"! Tethered means "tethered drones", that is, things that work just like RC drones, except with a trailing wire instead of radio. FF and CL do not qualify as a "UAS", "unmanned aerial system" because they do not have a ground control station. If you use "tethered" you will confuse the issue and let yourself in for a problem/
@@brettbuck7362 don't preach to me until you have spent four dozen hours reading the prior legislation, and rulemaking documents, and current interpretation of the rules restricting public and civil sUAS operations.
Tim has even picked up some of my findings and used them here, which is good because we all need to understand where we are, how we ended up here, and where this is all going (likely the complete shutdown of sUAS operations outdoors).
@@DumbledoreMcCracken I have, and have consulted with various AMA and FAA officials on the topic since all this started about 6 years ago. FF and CL are *not a UAS*, which is the basis of their exemption by law. If you use "tethered" to describe your CL airplane, this greatly raises the odds that you will get, incorrectly, included, because "tethered drones" (i,e, quadcopters with trailing wire control) aremost certainly a UAS and subject to regulation.
I appreciate the info sir, but next time have ya a glass of water ready lol. Very informative!
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The AMA or Academy of Model Aeronautics has really detailed Rules.
Thanks! Tim
I found a simple solution, I took my 40 acres of property and applied to the AMA for a charter and was granted one and then I applied for a FRIA and was also granted that. No one but me will ever fly on this property.
OK.
Eventually, RC manufacturers will be made into RC airlines. You will be a reverse employee (you "work for", the company, except you pay them to "work for" them). They will have to train you, you will have to do checklists pre, during, & post flight. You will have to engage wil ATC. You will have to take off from, & land at airports/airfields only. In other words, you will have to become a commercial airline pilot. Only, you pay the "airline" to fly. Give it 5 to 15 years, it will happen.
Not so sure about this . . . 🤔😳
Found this podcast informative. But you only glossed over sub250 models, what are the rules? For example, will my 9 year old grandson need TRUST to fly a sub250 foamy?
It sounds crazy, but (I think) anyone who flies needs to take the one time TRUST test. Registration needs to be 13 years and older. Tim
Remember, impossible to fail TRUST. All questions answered to 100%.
Remember, impossible to fail TRUST. All questions answered to 100%.
@@TimMcKay56 yes, trust test is required by all
The FAA is trying to destroy the hobby.I fly in a park field where I have seen other people fly and there's no problems and we don't fly that often.I probly fly 4 to 6 times a month when the weather is nice and warm,not like today,(cold and wet).I took my TRUST test and that's all I'm doing the AMA is over priced.
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Correct me if I am wrong, politely please, but there is no requirement to join the AMA or any other organization. You only have to follow some FAA approved organization's rules, but not to actually join them. Of course for drone pilots, there are much better choices than the AMA. Nothing against the AMA, but let's face it, drones aren't their focus and neither they or their members are drone friendly. Lastly, I will say this bit about following some organization's rules is silly at best. We should have to follow the FAA's rules, and that's it.
@@RebelByNature 100% correct, no need to join AMA (unless you wish to use a FRIA at an AMA field). Tim
@@RebelByNature You are correct. A recreational RC flyer is not required to join a CBO ( community based organization). However, if one wants to fly at a FRIA, joining a CBO is necessary. Most flying club fields are AMA sanctioned.
Some AMA clubs are warming up to multicopters and drone related activities (mine included). I too wish that more of them welcomed rotor craft of all types. I fly choppers and racing quads also.
I hope this helps!
Good information, but I don't think the terrorists will comply with the rules, registration, . or remote ID. Very typical for today.
Criminals, as a general rule, do not follow laws, rules or regulations. But that does not mean we simply get rid of such laws. Tim
Regarding local laws and private property, I question your statement that you have to follow them in this regard. First lets make clear I am talking what are the legal constraints of what one 'can' do, not what one 'should' do, as that is subjective and not necessarily the same as what you are allowed to do. That said, no local laws (state, county, municipal etc) have jurisdiction about 'flying' over private property. That is clear. They have no more jurisdiction, power of law, over that than a town that tries to say you can't fly a Cessna over the city limits. Only the FAA can do that. That is what FAA approved apps like B4UFLY are all about. It will show you what, if any, flight restrictions are in place where you want to fly. So, you can fly over and video over someone's property so long as the FAA has not restricted that airspace. However, that does not necessarily mean you should. Also, local laws are often in place to prevent surveillance, voyeurism etc. Doesn't matter if you are doing it with a drone, as these laws are about what you are doing, not what you are doing it with. So, just because you are entitled to fly over someone's private property, and you are, and video, and you can, does not mean you are immune to local charges if you park a drone 5 feet away from a bedroom window and record. The other subtly is that local entities, e.g. cities, can stop you from taking off from, landing, or working the controls on or at city owned property (e.g. parks etc). They can not stop you from flying over these areas if launched and operated from a location not on city property.
We’ll see. Courts are working these issues now. Tim
I agree as long as no one can deem your flight a danger to anyone. A judge or jury may not be on your side, and you may make your lawyer wealthy.
@@TimMcKay56 Ok, name a current case Tim.
You just switched gears from what the current laws are to a little bit of wishful thinking of what might happen in the future. You also switched gears in your video when you start out talking about what the rules are as presented as per the FAA website but then proceed to cite rules based on your personal notes which include your personal opinions that are not FAA rules. For example, there is nothing in FAA rules about following local laws and/or private property. Personal opinion is absolutely fine if put forth as an opinion of what one 'should' do but not when passed off as being a 'current' legal requirement, rule or law.
Also, Courts don't work on issues, they decide cases based on the law. Not trying to be pedantic here, but the distinction matters. You would need federal congressional legislative changes before states, counties, towns could have a say.
@@DumbledoreMcCracken It's a question of jurisdiction. If you don't injure someone or destroy property, then the jurisdiction is 100% FAA. If you do damage property or injure someone then of course you are responsible for it. 'Deeming' isn't part of the legal equation. If you crash a 250 gram drone into a house, you might damage a shingle, or break a window, but probably not. I think I can handle that and it's extremely unlikely to occur. If you hit someone with a drone, over their property or not, doesn't matter, you are responsible, but we would be talking about literally scratches, nothing like what a car accident would cause.
@@TimMcKay56 Be careful what you wish for Tim. Opening the door to local control of the airspace and thereby destroying the preeminence of the FAA's authority may well be a Pandora's Box that General Aviation pilots wish never was opened. Cessna's can be quite loud when flying over your house at 1000 AGL, even at 2000. Helicopters are even worse. They could well be taking pictures and otherwise interfering with our privacy and enjoyment of our private property. Wouldn't it be nice if we could pass laws or ordinances that say, no private aircraft over our city limits, over our houses, etc.? Or maybe you can overfly, but you need to maintain 5000 AGL over our town, our county etc. What a mess that would would be. How could any pilot be expected to stay within compliance of such a patchwork of laws? It's just as true no matter the type of aircraft and why we need IMHO a uniform national airspace.
There are three groups of flyers. Commercial, long time, or new educated hobbist, and DJI instant gratification, don't know no rules. I don't hold out much hope for the FAA taking a liking to the "hobbist drones when they lump us in whit the wild west drones. I am fortunate to live near a few AMA clubs that have FRIA. I hate the idea of registering. I haven't done it yet. I also don't like big fines and being made an example. I guess that if I'm going to fly rc, I'll have to cave in to big brother's demands.
As a side note. If you fly in a fria, you have to register and take the trust test also? I know that you must stay inside the club boundaries, which for some clubs is going to be impractical. The clubs that don't get the fria have to fly with rfid? I don't think that rfid has reached a place that I'm willing to go, or spend money on when it seems to me that the faa was very vague about. It's likely to change at the drop of a hat. Those are just my thoughts and opinions.
Thomas: If you fly an RC plane/drone in the National Airspace System, and it weighs 250 grams or more, you need to register it. Not a huge deal for recreational flyers, one registration number for ALL aircraft. Done on line, $5 for three years. The free TRUST test takes 45 mins, good for your lifetime. FRIA exempt remote ID. The AMA club will require your registration and TRUST test to join the club. Just not a big deal. Tim
One guy crashes a drone onto white house grounds, big deal. Not a whole lot of damage can happen from an unarmed drone, especially a sub 250 gram hobbyist drone. Might someone get a skin laceration, maybe, most likely not. Now some perspective, in 1994, Frank Eugene Corder crashed a Cessna 150 onto the south lawn of the White House. Now that can be dangerous and people can get hurt. Worried about someone doing something really bad with a drone, instead of just doing something very stupid, like some form of armed attack on the White House? Think you can detect it because of remote ID and they can trace it because it's registered? Right, they will use a drone that is registered and broadcasts RID for such a purpose. Of course they will. A sub 250 hobbyist drone is simply not carrying a payload of any consequence.
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Any flight on White House grounds is a major concern. What if a small drone carrying some sort of biological weapon? Tim
@@TimMcKay56 You think that a biological weapon would be delivered on a registered drone broadcasting RID? Sub 250 gram drones aren't even required to broadcast RID, and even if they were, you think someone wanting to deliver a biological weapon to the WH is going to be following rules? There is other technology, sophisticated expensive technology, that is available to detect and disable drones by interfering with the communications to and from the drone. Yes, I agree that flights on White House grounds is a concern, but not a major concern if its a hobbyist drone, but a major one if it's something bigger, whether a large drone or Cessna 150. Hopefully the US govt has something more reliable than voluntary cooperation by malicious actors or that is a problem