1961: Working in a SUNDERLAND SHIPYARD | Sunderland Oak | World of Work | BBC Archive

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  • "Why should we live and die by shipbuilding only?"
    Philip Donnellan's beautiful documentary Sunderland Oak examines the hopes and fears of workers at the Bartram & Sons shipyard.
    Originally broadcast 19 September, 1961.
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Комментарии • 73

  • @pit_stop77
    @pit_stop77 Год назад +36

    Proud men, debating forces out of their control

  • @looperbirhinger7043
    @looperbirhinger7043 Год назад +32

    3:20 "The issue of the point is - you've got too many boys chasing too few good jobs."
    This one hasn't changed at all.

  • @mn4169
    @mn4169 11 месяцев назад +10

    My great uncle was welder at the shipyards, he could neither read nor write but was a first class welder.

  • @Spookieham
    @Spookieham Год назад +31

    Hard men doing a hard job.

    • @jameshodgkins559
      @jameshodgkins559 Год назад +4

      Imagine the amount of asbestos they come in contact with .
      Every day , day in & out

  • @janesmith9024
    @janesmith9024 Месяц назад +1

    My grandfather died in a shipyard accident in Sunderland in 1930, leaving his new wife and tiny baby. A wasted life of a very talented man I never got to meet. May he rest in peace.

  • @mrlotusmic
    @mrlotusmic Год назад +12

    You could relate the old fellas as parents debating to the UK construction industry today.

  • @hellie_el
    @hellie_el Год назад +10

    wonderful sunderland accent!

  • @Alan..W
    @Alan..W Год назад +12

    This makes me so sad seeing our long lost heritage in a once proud Sunderland gone. We now have Nissan and it's going to be here for a long time to come, but let's wait and see .....

    • @dorothyramser7805
      @dorothyramser7805 Год назад +1

      Brought memories back of crossing the bridge on the bus and seeing all the activity on the river

  • @kevinmichael2538
    @kevinmichael2538 Год назад +6

    it's amazing to watch images of the United Kingdom in the 60's, it already shows how much a place is ahead of time because even the way people talk is different

  • @lloydmacknight6214
    @lloydmacknight6214 Год назад +6

    Proper Mackem blokes

  • @TinLeadHammer
    @TinLeadHammer Год назад +12

    This was filmed a year after a hanheld Eclair camera with sync sound was created. Looks much less stilted than 1950s vox pops. The BBC should provide more info about subjects and equipment used for every archive reel.

  • @garryleeks4848
    @garryleeks4848 Год назад +8

    Don’t mess with geezer with the 📝 paper

  • @johnboy14
    @johnboy14 Год назад +3

    This video is the perfect example of what happens when you don’t evolve, the world just passes you by. There’s no real reason this industry had to die.

    • @Chris-pq3wp
      @Chris-pq3wp Год назад

      Well there isn't any commercial ship building in any Western country anymore except for cruise liners which themselves are having a hard time after the pandemic

    • @tonypaddler
      @tonypaddler 10 месяцев назад +1

      @johnboy ; Thatcher.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@tonypaddlershe definitely killed a lot of it. But many of the problems were there long before her. British industry had been in decline since the late 1800s. You need only look at an old map to see just how many shipyards had gone even by the 1960s. Britain was stuck in the past. We wouldn't invest or change to new techniques and machinery and as a result, the world passed us by.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Chris-pq3wpthat's not true. The largest shipbuilders in Europe are in Trieste in Italy, with other yards at a number of other Italian cities. They make a range of ships, not just cruise ships. There are also the shipyards in St. Nazaire in France, which are huge. They regularly make tankers, commercial vessels and naval ships, as well as cruise ships.

    • @Chris-pq3wp
      @Chris-pq3wp 4 месяца назад +2

      @th8257 that is nothing compared to Chinese and south Korean ship production. Italy and France don't make tankers, bulk carriers or container ships which are the vast majority of commercial shipping

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 Год назад +9

    I just wish Ant & Dec would have had a more wholesome life working at the shipyard there. On a more serious note this is great listening to the serious economic concerns of workers in their local area from over 60 years ago, these days it's just hire and fire with few working rights if you're a bloke.

  • @ctcurry1777
    @ctcurry1777 Год назад +2

    Other countries can build things cheaper. Another great film.

  • @marine4lyfe85
    @marine4lyfe85 9 месяцев назад

    The old boy with the newspaper looks like Paul's grandfather in "A Hard Days Night".

  • @gntdriver2840
    @gntdriver2840 Год назад +7

    Strange but they don't all sound as if their from Sunderland

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 месяца назад +1

      I guess a large employer like that would have pulled in people from a wider area

  • @jasonayres
    @jasonayres Год назад +5

    (4:35) I was waiting for at least one of the older men to say,
    "During the war..we/you would have to.."
    Because that's what older people said back then.
    In my upbringing, anyway, a boy sat there and listened.
    (An occasional glance at the clock, perhaps.
    Staring at my shoes, etc.
    But being quiet, out of respect.)

  • @davidoldboy5425
    @davidoldboy5425 Год назад +3

    I was 6, me Grandaa worked at many of the yards first as riveter then as welder, he'd had a hard life which was visible, as most had who'd been through the war. Sunderland was doomed as a shipbuilder due to one thing, geography, the Wear was too narrow, too shallow and with tight bends unsuitable for the size of ships becoming demanded after the 60's, it was that simple. With hindsight they should have swapped from ocean going to coastal and smaller vessels, but the foresight and will weren't there, the Dutch taught them a lesson here. To rub their noses in it they were sent abroad to teach other countries, signing their own death warrant. Everything comes to it's end, shipyards and pits included, but the people naturally were loathe to accept this fact. There will never be a return as the idiots in the council build houses on riverside sites, instead of keeping the areas near the sea for future industry. R.I.P. Sunderland heavy industry both past, present and future.

  • @daffyduk77
    @daffyduk77 4 месяца назад +1

    Crane op's job not for the partially sighted ... no CCTV to help

  • @bazsnell3178
    @bazsnell3178 Год назад +1

    Re those the men who wore tee shirts out when it was snowing?

  • @thomastereszkiewicz2241
    @thomastereszkiewicz2241 Год назад +1

    are these all actors?

  • @dean6816
    @dean6816 Год назад +3

    Wheys keys are theese!

  • @lostyank
    @lostyank Год назад +2

    "Guarantee of a lifetime's work ..." 😑😂😑

  • @justonsullivan3807
    @justonsullivan3807 9 месяцев назад

    The good ole days. 🙏🇺🇲🗽🇬🇧🙏

  • @TheJuzi
    @TheJuzi Год назад +6

    Look what they took from us...

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 месяца назад

      Whose "they"? You some kind of russian troll?

  • @roddymcniven8734
    @roddymcniven8734 Год назад +1

    Then the wheels fell aff

    • @IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
      @IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Год назад +4

      Yep. Otherwise known as the Thatcher government.

    • @roddymcniven8734
      @roddymcniven8734 Год назад +1

      @@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou how could I forget? Was born in 66, certainly fkd Scotland over.

  • @rosewhite---
    @rosewhite--- 8 месяцев назад +3

    how man UK jobs were lost because UK workers were idle and didn't give a damn about quality of getting products out in time.

    • @johnstudd4245
      @johnstudd4245 3 месяца назад +1

      And unions protecting them.

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 Год назад +4

    good old days of working without hardhats, gloves, welding goggles, etc...

    • @IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
      @IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Год назад +8

      And the accompanying gaping headwounds, lost fingers, deaths from falls, blindness etc...

    • @bid84
      @bid84 Год назад +4

      Ever get a piece of tile enamel travel to the back of your eye and start to cut the nerves from the back?

  • @kopynd1
    @kopynd1 Год назад +2

    no tradesmen left, all machines operators now, a joiner years ago had all his tools in a box and not 1 electrical tool in there, all hand tools

  • @neo1559
    @neo1559 Год назад +2

    Wasn’t this supposedly around the time that Western men were oppressing women, taking it easy, and laughing over cigars and cocktails?

  • @andrewstripreports9275
    @andrewstripreports9275 3 месяца назад +2

    Sunderland is now a s*** hole these days

  • @occidentadvocate.9759
    @occidentadvocate.9759 Год назад +10

    Wheres all the Black and Brown people? I've been taught Britain was allways "multi- Racial and Multicultural"?

    • @custa73burner
      @custa73burner 9 месяцев назад +1

      Shipyard workers were mostly grandfather, father, and son workplaces and in the early 60's there were very few "immigrants" in Sunderland. You'll also notice there were no women, even though women were employed to keep the yards functional during WW2 while a lot of the men went to war. When some of the men returned, the women were replaced.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 месяца назад +1

      Why do you care, russian troll?

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 Год назад +1

    I used to enjoy poetic documentaries like this. Now they seem like the forerunner of the propaganda that is universal today.

  • @alanbeaumont4848
    @alanbeaumont4848 Год назад +11

    An industry destroyed by a refusal to modernise.

    • @heinkle1
      @heinkle1 Год назад +4

      A microcosm of British industry at large

    • @Spookieham
      @Spookieham Год назад +5

      Plenty of blame to go round. Lack of investment plus poor management gets its share of the blame also. Clydeside went the same way although Warship building survives.

    • @alanbeaumont4848
      @alanbeaumont4848 Год назад +4

      @@Spookieham The writing was on the wall in 1945; the American had demonstrated how to build ships quickly with new techniques.

    • @Macm73
      @Macm73 10 месяцев назад

      Wasn’t it J L Thompson yard that developed those techniques,ie liberty ships where patented by jlThompsons. Demand for ships after the war was so high they couldn’t cease production to modernise. Heartbreaking to see the Wear no longer building ships.

    • @custa73burner
      @custa73burner 9 месяцев назад

      Doxford's yard in Pallion still holds the record for the most ships built in a single callender year during WW2

  • @buy.to.let.britain
    @buy.to.let.britain 5 месяцев назад

    i would rather claim universal income, than work doing this !!

  • @garryleeks4848
    @garryleeks4848 Год назад +4

    When men weren’t scared of grafting work

    • @SwazersC
      @SwazersC Год назад +1

      When men were not attacked & abused on a daily basis by the MSM.

    • @IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
      @IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Год назад +2

      Sure.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 месяца назад

      When trolls weren't russian

  • @robertbest4398
    @robertbest4398 Год назад +3

    UK government Tories and labour brutal wrecked country shocking ongoing

  • @MANCHESTERUKABRIEFVIDEOOFTIME
    @MANCHESTERUKABRIEFVIDEOOFTIME Год назад

    Boy or Girl you mean 🤣

  • @edwardwilson7485
    @edwardwilson7485 Год назад

    Not much equality or diversity there, bloody dinosaurs