"Have you pretended American in Korea?" Africans vs African Americans in KOREA
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:43 My nationality is helpful for me in Korea
5:55 Black Bro, Black Sis in Korea sounds rude
11:15 There is racism against blacks in Korea
16:15 Korea is pretty nice to live for blacks
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my great grandmother lived to be 114 and she was born a slave , I actually met a slave . People say slavery was so long ago when it wasn’t they confused 400 years of slavery with 400 years ago .
It would make sense if she was in the South and specially somewhere like Texas
@@brandonleemosswhat would make sense?
My great grandfather was born a slave so it was not something that happened 400 years ago. She's ignorant.
@@C.C.8441 exactly , then she say racism doesn’t exist if you don’t talk about it . I have family in Mississippi and in the 1960s my twin uncles who were 9 got tied up thrown in a river by white adults and teenagers and nothing happened. When my grandparents tried to seek justice the police burned their house down . They got away with murder and the police attempted to burn up a black family while they were sleeping.
@@missam3404 during that time in Texas they would have still thought they was slaves
The idea of switching perspectives was very confusing and unnecessary. I think it would have been more informative if they could have spoken from their own experiences and not what they thought the other “side” was like. Because miss Nigeria was way off base and I’m speaking as an African myself. Good video nonetheless, I love that Giggle continues to advocate for diversity and change in Korean society ❤
Well said. The video would have been interesting without that switch up.
I think it might be because they might have lived in America…the Africans I mean.
I don’t like how not one actual black american, one who is ADOS/FBA in the video to speak from the perspective of an actual african/black american. The people in the video were speaking from the perspective of an african who immigrated to the US or lived under african immigrant parents in the US. Not an actual black american who is actually ADOS/FBA. And the nigerian woman pissed me all the way tf off with her spill. 😮💨 Because it clearly shows that even though she claims to have lived in chicago, she clearly did not bother to educate herself on black american history and how it still effects black americans till this day.
No, she's not way off. Sure didn't nail the subject for sure, but she's not way off
@Enquixitor she and her ignorance are all the way off. you don't tell yourself traffic doesn't exist to get through a long commute. you acknowledge it and drive accordingly. the assumption that acknowledging the problem automatically stops people from moving forward at all (versus the racist systems put in place to make moving forward not impossible but much more difficult) is extremely repressive and ignorant and likely rooted in the assumption that the people dealing with it directly don't want things to be better anyways, aka the "ADOS are just lazy" stereotype that her comment echos. she is all the way off and lacking basic empathy as well.
Oh chile… saying racism won’t exist if we stop thinking about it is CRAZY. It’s still systematically engrained in our societies and our government wether we acknowledge it or not. We aren’t awarded the luxury of not having everything centered around our race 😕
As an African I was shocked by her saying
even i was shocked when she said that racism is very much still there even if you choose to ignore it she's very one minded
@@Jenniferyassified thanks for being sympathetic ♥️♥️♥️
@@robertaadewale2619 same!! i was so shocked when i heard it like huh???!! If you’re uneducated on a subject you should say “in my opinion” before you speak, like????
Yes. If you in western country yes. But in Africa not as much expect in country that actually experience segregation like SA. But within the continent we are not that big on racism.
I am a Jamaican who moved to America with my Black son. Did not know what the experience of racism was while growing up in Jamaica... Came here with a blank slate and let me tell you, America is racist to its core.. My son literally was diagnosed with PTSD from the constant police profiling and undue harassment here. It is such psychological & emotional trauma. Any Black person who does not understand how racist America is needs to live here to experience it first hand. This ain't no joke..
I also a Jamaican but live in Germany has not encountered such ' racism ' as in US America. Not saying that racism isn't here in Germany but I must say this , the racism that I experienced comes from ' black Americans ' who asked me " why didn't I married a brother "? The other thing is the word for black person ' negro ' is ' nigger ' which just German with no other meaning behind it . A Chinese friends were cussed out for speaking in Mandarin and said the word nigger ( means this ) and was told to use a different word.
People don't know history the racism in America literally inspired the Nazis.
My goodness... I'm so sorry 😔 Praying for you and your child's safety
Asking you why you didn't marry someone from your culture is not racism, so no you did not experience racism because of that question. "N*g**r" does not mean "negro", negro = black in spanish.@@celianeher7637
@@celianeher7637That’s not racism, that’s prejudice. Racism is a system and ties into that the OP said. Asking you what you didn’t many Black is not a system that would affect you in the same way like being racially profiled by the police.
Im afro latina and listen to someone who thinks that racism doesn't exist is just CRAZY 😭😭😭
Unfortunately until they see with their own eyes what black Americans go through it’s this state of mind
africans are jealous of slave descendants
@@m.bcupid4179it's not just black Americans🤦🏽♀️it happens to Africans as well. More than you think
She should come to Mississippi. 💀
That’s her experience and she’s allowed to talk about it
I am African (Zimbabwean, to be specific), and this Renee lady's behavior is downright embarrassing. The audacity to talk down to people to their faces and tell them how to feel about what they and their ancestors went through is appalling. She should be ashamed of herself. Racism will not simply go away if people ignore it, quite the opposite, actually. Not to mention how most of Africa's poverty comes from inheriting broken systems left behind by colonialism.
Renee is right, blacks need to shut up about their make believe racism that doesn't exists, all they do is cry about make believe oppression and a slavery they've never experienced. I"m speaking as an indigenous american that sick of them and their white brothers that are just as annoying.
Haa taura hako iwe 🤦🏾
Thank you ..
More than any other African group, throughout my time living abroad, I found that Nigerians were the rudest and most arrogant group of Africans towards ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery).
Which was something that always perplexed me considering how much of my people's culture and style they imitate.
victoria-me7hw:. As an African-American I totally agree with everything you said.
Skin folk, aren't always kin folk. This is a prime example. Our skin is similar but we are NOT the same.
We east africans know we are not the same...this problem seem to be between you and west africans...in East Africans we dont consider ourselves the same as black americans or have any relations, which we dont...genetically speaking
@@user-rh6tq2hx7nyeah I keep forgetting East Africans are desperately trying to be considered Arabic 😂
Good luck 👍
@@brandonleemossthis person does not speak for East Africans, ppl don’t know the difference between race, ethnicity and nationality and unfortunately ignorant ppl are always the loudest.
East Africans don't gaf about y'all 😂😂😂
@@AlhajiBah-mo3ud right but yall over here because 9f us lmaoooo
Her take on American racism had me flabbergasted 😅😅😅😅
why did she leave the USA if there is no racism.
I know
Just racism in general ….. cuz what?!!!!
18:48 Wait a minute, this Nigerian lady just said that Black Americans complain about racism too much. But here, she is complaining about racism against Africans in Korea. She's a hypocrite.
😂😂😂
L🤫L This Irony is lost on this 🥥
She is contradicting herself. I don’t think she even knows what she’s saying
In SA we have a concept of “ a good kaffer” or a good black, i think her behaviour/mindset is very much towards that
To be fair, she didn't actually complain about racism in Korea
The Nigerian lady was out of order, I'm so embarrassed. Africa was colonized and most of us live in denial of racism but trust me racism and colonisation is still alive and well in Africa so I don't understand why the Nigerian lady is acting like Americans are the only one's who are always taking about racism. My heart ached when I saw the reaction from the American lady, most Africans know what's up and we're not all like her. There'll always be black people who act like they're not like the other "blacks" and they throw their fellow black people under the bus just to get non black people's validation. It's also funny how they showed Sam Okyere's picture when Korea literally cancelled that man for calling out blackface🤣.
AAs act like they were the only enslaved people, so they bring that as the topic that happens long Tom today
I don't think "most Africans live in denial of racism", speaking as an African myself. I feel like it's more something that we experience through the residual effects of colonialism and the current effects of neocolonialism. For most of us Africans, we barely interact with people of other races, so "racism" is something we're more detached from. I rarely ever have to interact with non-black people. I understand that some time in the past, white people's actions caused a lot of harm, and there are probably a lot of institutions today that keep us oppressed by some whites and asians, but it doesn't have all that much to do with my day to day experience of life and the actions I personally have to take to live out my best life. So while racism might exist and it might be affecting me, I'm not at the forefront of that battle, and I don't think I'm as angry about it as an African American would be where they have to live right next to their oppressors. Maybe I'm just ignorant. I don't know. I understand her sentiment a little, because I think what she was trying to convey was that focus on your own life instead of buying into bitterness and hatred against whites or Asians or whatever. At some point, as black people, we have to stop blaming others and just focus on ourselves. The way forward is to bring yourself up, not to bring others down with you. That's just me though. I do think she was out of order trying to tell the African Americans what to do though. I think Africans and African Americans have different struggles, and we don't experience the same types of racism, so nobody really has the right to tell anybody how to feel or what to do like that.
It's because us african don't deal with it or lived with it like american do.
Our issue are governemental issues, linked to leaders thinking of feeding their bellies first.
And the racism is mostly not against other skin colours, but against other tribes (from the same country)
+ the lack of police/social security.
South-Africa mindset is more similar to America than other african countries. Most African countries mindset are more similar to countries like HongKong (or Myanmar).
If you are from the southern part of Africa like SA you feel it more.but the rest of Africa not so much because we mostly surrounded with people that look like us . There is not an urgent need to talk about racism. Because it is not in our face like the US. Even in SA. Plus we have other matters to take care of.So racism will be the last think an African person will worry about.
@@equistartervictim mindset… all those thing you mentioned is not one quarter of what an average African go through every day.. try to switch place with an African in Africa for a week and see real struggles
They need to drop the lady from nigeria off in one of those sundown towns in the United States for a few days then come back and interview her about racism. Bet her views change then.
Yessss😂
And let her stay there for a week.
I'm Ugandan 🇺🇬 & I agree coz wtf is she saying 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@gloriakatabazi8055 straight nonsense
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
As a Nigerian-American i think Renee is painfully ignorant about racism in America. Very condescending too.
Agreed
It is really frustrating sometimes when Africans speak on African-Americans and the mindset we have on racism. You will not understand unless you ARE African-American. The dark history America has when it comes to how AA’s were treated. AA’s weren’t treated somewhat decently and accepted until 50-60 years ago and technically not even then.
This is only one individual; I ve heard that she is Nigerian or something, Africa is a continent, dont judge 1 billion people because of the attitudes of a single person, please
I'm not even American.. never been out of Africa.. Kenyan..but I do understand everything y'all go through..and I got so upset when she started talking like that
Am from Tanzania, East Africa and We were colonized too..that nigerian lady doesn’t even live in Africa, he lives in America so we don’t claim her
AA r Only 12% pop. but 85% crimes. 😨😱😱😱
Its usually continental Africans or Americanised Africans who are sheltered im African grew up in the US but i have enough common sense and intelligence to know That America has over 100k people actively participating in hate groups neo Nazi groups and white supremacist movements ,most Africans still have a docile colonial mindset and religion helps keeps them in check
ngl, I had to pause the video for a while after listening to her take on Americans and racism. There's so much of a lack of understanding there... Like, you need to remember that Americans' views on racism is wholly impacted and formed by our history which is completely different from Africans'. But the worst was "just don't talk about racism and it won't exist." That is completely not how that works.... not talking about a system does not make that system suddenly not be in place....
Same, l was so shocked.
@@RobFromDenver Yo I wanted someone to say something so bad. Like was it just glossed over or edited out??!! Because if I was there my ancestors would not have let me stay silent after that statement!
@RobFromDenver the FBA sista had her nugerian azz shook quick. It is amazing how the Nigerian broad who comes from the poorest country in the world, when pretending to be a dike FBA kept up the key works benifits, Chicago, she was happy to say nigger until the the fBA sista got on her head just by looking at her. We are definitely completely different people, nations, genetics, morals, talent. The Nigerian hated the Korean said FBA were the stars even in Korea. Kinda funny at this point
Not just our history cause we still dealing with it today.
@@mikejones-wn1swhaha 😂 who’s the poorest ethnic group in America.. who have the highest poverty rate in America? Yes fba do.. y’all act like you’re better or something but don’t know that you have it worse.. you should be grateful to your white massa , cause without them we know America would be the poorest country in the world… and Nigerians are also star.. imagine being a big star from an African country and competing with literally the greatest country in the world.. I see why y’all fba are jealous and insecure about it
Slavery was not 400 years ago! Slavery "ended" in 1865 but slavery practices still went on for 100+ years afterward. After slavery there was sharecropping, in which blacks were kept in place by "debt". If you were born in the south any where from 1900-maybe 1930 you could be a sharecropper or a child of a share cropper. Your children were most likely born between 1920-1950's, during Jim Crow and the Civil Right era. After Jim Crow came mass incarceration and the crack era. So to say stop talking about racism and slavery ended 400 years ago as if it had no effects and just ended and everything was good is crazy to me and makes no sense. Us talking about it gave us the civil rights that our ancestors fought/died for and other blacks and races that immigrate to America can enjoy even more so than we can ironically. I also think it was confusing for them to have to switch perspective, why not have them say the perspective of what they actually are.
People all around the world think racism in America started with slavery and ended with slavery. Smh
My mind was blown at her ignorance of the Black American experience and its history. Super cringe.
Slavery still exist in small pockets, the name and look of it just changed
But the longer we talk about racism the more generations are going to keep racism alive
@soufyanl1227 When we don’t talk about it’s pushed aside but the issues will still be there, except there will be no acknowledgement for it.
Honestly the Nigerian lady is an example of why I as an African American do hold head up with a sense of pride and confidence in being AA and if you take that as me thinking I’m “superior” well that’s a YOU problem.
Im frustrated that neither of the black American women spoke up but I understand that sometimes it’s best not to say anything in the heat of the moment.
She’s completely ignorant and I’m so sick and tired of none African American black people telling us about our own experience and how we should navigate that.
People like are insufferable. 🙄
As an east African person, I’m sorry that this is somehow the person they picked to represent Africans. This is a ridiculous nonsense view especially if you learn about the history of different African countries. I honestly think that for some people it’s a protective measure because they don’t want to believe that racism exists so if they believe that it’s due to effort, then they don’t have to deal with that uncomfortable feeling.
Those black American women failed us. They should have let her have it
She just spitting facts n ur angry
@@alexxendramoose6723 she is just spitting ignorance and displaying a lack of knowledge regarding Black Americans. Ironically she wouldn't even have the opportunity to have that blue passport were it not for "African Americans". Furthermore Black Americans had their own everything in the United States and due to the racism she wishes would no longer be discussed that everything was bombed and the people were hunted down and killed in such places as Black Wall Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Roswell, New Jersey, etc... You people are blindly ignorant and it's extremely disturbing to see and or watch.
I’m Nigerian American and I agree with you. Some Nigerian people are so ignorant and far up their own ass
My apologies to every Black American who had to listen to Renee's absolutely unhinged tirade. We don't claim her, and she doesn't speak for us.
You can’t really say that we don’t claim her if you’re really from Africa cuz I know a lot of Africans-including myself- do think or have though before that African-Americans were just not making any effort to grow rather than live with a victim mindset.
Though, for myself, I would say I’ve come to learn that’s not the case…not all of it anyways, for many Africans, I can guarantee that’s closely similar to what they think of America’s racism.
@miliarsema6339 but how can you as an African, whose ancestors had to literally fight for independence against racist imperialists, advocate for your fellow black people to just sit still when they are being oppressed? Do you know how many black Americans protested for African independence in the 1960s? Now, here you are, a descendent, born free in a country run by black people, unable to return the same solidarity? Expecting them to just be complacent when they are oppressed because your life is unaffected by their struggles? How do you do it? I, and many other Africans, will always stand in solidarity with my black brothers and sisters no matter where they're from.
@miliarsema6339 Fine, then those of us who are from Africa, who exercise empathy, and understand that just because we don't personally experience racism on a daily basis doesn't mean it doesn't exist for other people who look like us, don't claim her then. Besides, what about countries like South Africa where racial inequality still exists and wealth is concentrated in the white minority? My own country (Zimbabwe) only achieved independence in 1980, so most of my family has memories of racist colonial structures so I can better empathize with where black Americans are coming from. So, yeah, there are Africans who support Black Americans' right to stand up for themselves.
@@miliarsema6339Consider this. In America, we are still living under the same oppressive circumstances, only reimagined to not break MODERN laws. We STILL experience racism day to day, from other communities and even our own as antiblackness is an undercurrent that is worldwide. In a lot of ways, African Americans feel fractured as a community and to simply say we are not trying to grow is a disgusting and ignorant statement. There are documented instances where AA people have tried to grow, build wealth, community, abundance but could not because it was burned down. These concepts of growth do not suit the racist, late capitalism structure that we fight on the daily. Look up redlining, look up modern day slavery in prisons and WHO is incardinated at higher rates and where they come from. Look up police brutality, look up how many black women die in hospitals while giving birth because white people think we feel less pain. We are still the victims here and you should really do some research because you sound exactly like our oppressors--- which actually kind of makes sense because Africa was also colonized and taught to hate each other, too.
Funny how you just became an example.
Who we💀
As a Nigerian… we don’t claim her. Living in the US I obviously have a different perspective from her and have first hand seen the effects of racism and segregation here. I think it was ignorant to speak on a matter she wasn’t well-versed in and to diminish thousands of people’s reality
You no be Nigerian stop to day lie
@@DanielWilson-bu4cqshe's nigerian and she's right. I'm nigerian too but that nigerian woman on the podcast dey yarn dust
@@iykejnr6296 be like all these Akata never show you how them be abi ? That girl wet talk that thing so he get why she talk am nah she know wetin her eye don see for them hand
Thank you❤
I think most people took her statement out of context, she was trynna say that " Racism exists in America. YES, But You should not take that same mindset into Korea."
It’s a brainwash system? This is legit NUTS to say! Does she realize the “mermaid film” she mentioned did poorly in South Korea because of *gasps*… RACISM?!?
She comes from a country that has one of the largest statutes of white Jesus overlooking Lagos... but wants to talk about brainwashing.😂
Thank you she is so delusional you can't even talk to someone like that about reality😮
She says racism doesn't exist she should try working in the texas oil and gas industry being a black man making half with everybody else is making.... And you have two college😢
It didn't do poorly, it did $5m which is on par for a country with only 50 million people in it. Canada did worse.
Everything she said in this video about racism is wrong
But stop spreading wrong information and playing victim with that
Americans don't go to cinemas just to watch Korean movies so why do you expect the same of Koreans on American movies??
Racism ain't got nothing to do with everything. Leave Koreans alone
@@olugboyeopeyemi2428There’s multiple news outlets and reports that already made it clear on why ppl didn’t see The Little Mermaid in Korea and China, specifically. There’s also multiple RUclips videos where Koreans admit it. Didn’t make it up. Don’t have to. Certainly don’t have an expectation for Koreans to see every American movie. I’m aware the world doesn’t revolve around America, nor do I need or want it to. BUT that specific movie had the media in a frenzy because* of the racism that came with it. No need to spread misinformation or play victim. Do your research and never speak to me crazy like that again.
This is why I don’t like it when “Africa” is grouped together in a monolithic way, because that lady from Nigeria saying the n word does not hold the same weight to Africans is unfortunately not the case for South Africans.
And South Africans don’t speak for the whole Africans
Tbh I don't know where in Nigeria she's from cuz generally we won't accept it if a foreigner here calls us the N word it would still be seen as racist
@@mipsgacha when the same Nigerian can be called the n word by racist wypipo ? Wow you lot brains are really damaged American messed up with y’all brain big time 😂😂😂😂
I agree. The rest of Africa shouldn’t be held accountable for the ignorant behavior of a Nigerian girl
@@Abner-gu3ve Yes and the whole of Nigeria shouldn't be held accountable for the ignorant behavior of one person
The black American girls were being polite while the African witch took the opportunity to bash black Americans. Africans live in homogenous countries. Most of the population of African countries are black. They haven’t experienced the racism Black Americans have so it’s no big deal to them. But to diminish black Americans experience just because you come from a majority black country and continent is ignorant. I wish black Americans could stop talking about racism and then it would just disappear. Unfortunately, the world is not all fairy tales and unicorns
We don't...there are lot of migrants...from EVERYWHERE: Swedish, French, English, Belgians, Indians, Japanese, Chinese, Lebanese,Danish, Dutch, Germans, Koreans...
Some of them have been there since the 16th century...
This immigration, massive started in -332BC. A lot of places have been miscegenated to oblivion... it's not talked about...People won't explain it to you, but it is been going on for a long time. If you know the history of some places, like Cape Verde, Abyssinia, Mzansi ( South Africa+ Namibia) you will have nightmares for a week....
The black American women's restraint, should be bottled. King Ne' ne has experienced racism, she thinks it was admiration. Facts: blk Americans have been through the fire, the limit to the wall, and still we rise! We created our own culture. A culture that ironically, is revered by Africans and the rest of the world. We are BLACK, LOUD and PROUD. Forget 400yrs of slavery? WE WILL NEVER, EVER FORGET. Kanye got them f'd up!
I have to disagree with you about african not having experecing thé racism that afro américain . Because there are some country such as cape verde people expérience Exactly what black américain been thru . They had been brought in cape verde to be enslaved by portuguese and for many décades they have been expérience thé same treatment from the colons. Torture racism harassment… do not Forget about south african that lived exaclty quite the same oppression with apartheid back then. So your point is not valid
Here in Africa we don't Torrante racism foreigners who do that risks his or her life people are United in Africa
Don't insult a witch by calling that Nigerian girl a witch. There's another name that describes that and it starts with a b
I’m just proud to be African American. We don’t take shit lying down and we will always defend ourselves. Some ppl are to complacent in accepting white supremacy as outlined in this video
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🖤
That’s why Africans and other groups hate us because we are the only group on the planet that CONSISTENTLY fights back against white supremacy.
AGREED.
That's why yall are feared and strong and ever came to be could run a nation of yall own if the opertunity presented it self
@@chappymoore2612right cause we fight back. an african. american man was in italy experiencing racism and the lady stopped and left him alone when he heard his american accent
I’m sick of Africans speaking on us Afro Americans. It’s getting weird how they dismiss our history.
Facts even she said “oh Americans are so sensitive” like shut up
They don’t even have history of that
They not even qualified to say N word
Just because their skin color is black
But they are Africans not African Americans, these African Americans went through a lot of pain back in the day and that’s how USA exist now a day
@@babyrice169colonialism in Africa was worse than slavery.. But the difference is African aaint brought up with that victim mindset like y’all
@@babyrice169just cause their skin color is black ? Are you slow African are the real black people with no admixture and European blood like y’all.. open your brain
@@DanielWilson-bu4cq
Abandoning your homeland because of "Government corruption" is literally a victim mindset... Otherwise they would be in their homeland fixing it.
Africans don't even identify as Black. Africans when they first was allowed to migrate here was marking their race as white because they didn't understand the concept of race lol.
cope. 🍗🍉
Proud black American here, we are in a class of our own 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It’s so frustrating that they didn’t check that girl from Nigeria but when the other girl said “no” if she wanted to reply, I can tell she was annoyed just like me. What she was stating was pure ignorance and hate. It sounds like that she hates the attention that AA get and start stating things that was completely untrue. This is why I don’t see the relationship between some African people and African Americans will ever be resolved
speak like true victim mindset, go to your corner loser
That’s not true, I agree with her, this is exactly what she was saying
You guys are sensitive
@@claudinefahibeHELP NOT U AGAIN-
@@claudinefahibeyou’re not even American.
Although the Nigerian lady lost me with her beyond ridiculous rant I think there’s an even bigger issue at hand. Hear me out. The people making this video are clearly of Asian decent, possibly Korean (based off the comment of being called “yellow bro”) the fact that they didn’t cut the comments the lady was making like the American asked not once but twice…They didn’t even bleep the N word, she used it twice and laughed when clearly no one else was amused. THEN we hear the American ask the other American if she wants to respond because it would be a great conversation to educate the clearly miseducated Nigerian… what does the producer do? He cuts the educational dialogue and skips to the next question. I mean that right there should say a thing or two to any one that believes the ignorance that was spewed in this video.
With the amount of Asians who are literally colonizing Africa as I speak, and treating their citizens like garbage… it’s ironic to say the least.
So true
Yep the whole setup of the video reveals that racism in Korea does indeed exist.
Me and you are on the same page. That's the first thing I was thinking as soon as the word wasn't bleeped out. Definitely unsubing because it almost felt like they were trying to intentionally incite an argument but the other girls were like "You can look crazy by yourself!"
I truly felt the same.
"Stop talking about Racism and it won't be there" the funniest thing I heard all year 😂😂
Good talk. I just want to say that slavery wasn't 400 years ago, it ended in 1863 & 1865 for Galveston, TX. That was 160 years ago, so it is still pretty fresh for African Americans.
She obviously isn’t a math whiz if she thinks 1865 was 400 years ago. 😂
Regardless, racism and racist laws existed 100 years after that. Slavery is not the only problem; it was just the beginning. Racism goes beyond that.
@@GenerationNextNextNext I'm a 45 yo Black woman living in Wisconsin, a mostly non-Black state, so I'm well aware of this. However, my response, if you watched the video, was to the Nigerian lady who repeatedly said that Slavery was 400 years ago. So I don't think she knows it ended 159 years ago. & yes we went through the Jim Crow error & segregation after that along with continued racism after the civil rights movement that created opportunities for ppl of color for all ethnicities, that Blacks in the US fought for. & US Blacks that are descendants of slaves are still viewed and treated as less than by some 159 years later, not 100. So I'm well aware of this. However, I'm not sure why you responded this way because my point was simply to her comments about slavery.
Renee was a bit hostile from the beginning. Like damn girl calm down! She was egging for a fight against the americans
When she said “we are talkin about 400 years ago”, gave me everything I needed to know
After she said that her opinion became invalid. You shouldn't speak on things you don't know facts on.
The fact that no one checked Renee is astonishing, y'all should have spoke up in response to that nonsense.
Nonsense was factual every time black Americans travel they are obsessed with having a racist experience she goes there with a blank state who would want to have someone in their country always looking for opportunities to complain
For anyone who is wondering about the comment about why black Americans always talk about race there’s this great debate between James Baldwin and Paul Weiss. It’s the same exact argument against racism that is used today. Racism isn’t just a social thing but a systemic thing as well. Imagine a country was build to make you fail and then points the finger at you for saying it’s all your fault. Where so many of your people are still living in low class areas or are in poverty. That’s what oppression is and what’s worst because you know how influential your country is, other countries take those stereotypes rooted in oppression and use it against you. It’s not just as simple as ignoring it. That’s like telling people if you don’t acknowledge the bullying it will stop. You can tell both black Americans (in this video) were offended but I bet they said in their head “oh I don’t wanna argue that because then people are going to look at us as crazy black folks”. If they got mad naturally that would be a rightful reaction because it’s a hurtful/emotional subject. In America you’re constantly censoring yourself and know that people subconsciously look at you in narrow ways. In other countries it’s the same. I’ve seen racism from all races. People like black culture but they don’t wanna be black.
So of course with that mindset you’re always gonna be on the defense. You’ve been defending yourself since birth just to be looked at as an equal. People have told me that I’m basically one of the good black people. I’m used as a token black friend, it’s dehumanizing. Yes to the Nigerian lady it would be nice if no one would talk about race and got along but sadly that’s not reality. If it’s not race, it’s your color, if it’s not color it’s your gender. It’s sexuality, it’s religion, etc. Don’t be colorblind and point the fingers at the victims. The fight she’s having for benefits for Africans people in Korea, is the same fight black Americans had to go through not too long ago. And to the people saying well there’s systems now to help black people it’s not that simple. How are going to get an entire race of people back on their feet. The damage is done. It’s gonna take years to reverse the effects.
I mean she’s acting like other African countries don’t have the same issues just in different forms. You guys in this video talked about South Africa? So should they ignore racism as well. I’m sorry just so ignorant.
I think its a choice of perspective that an individual makes. There is a limit to how far your suffering is exceptional.
@@boryman2999 a individual can ignore it to have a better experience but all that's doing is burying the actually problems and looking for escapism. You can't be upset as some one who chooses to acknowledge reality.
@@boryman2999 How does someone ignore redlining? Just say, “No Mr. Bank Manager! I will not let you deny me a loan just because of my race!”
That’s ridiculous and exposes how ignorant you are on this issue.
@@RobFromDenveryou’re making no sense .. y’all are fighting racism and you have the highest poverty and crime rate and also have the highest fatherless kids rate should I go on ?
Well african-american they had their own story and cultures. Totally different from the african. It's the same case as white American and European
Facts
THANK YOU WE ARE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE
@@soulaandefender you guys should also have a proper name not “black culture”
@@claudinefahibeur def a racist wtf all ur comments are hating on blpoc
@@claudinefahibeblack culture is TGE best term
it’s always the NON Americans giving there input on Black American Struggles and History.
they’re obsessed
@@Morningtimezob what keep dreaming
Maybe because black Americans dont stfu about it and call thinga racist that arent
The African dude just replied to what needed to be said while the African chick went out of her way to say things she’s been holding in. African chick was out of order. I know what she was saying but she didn’t really express it well. It felt like anger rather than discord.
I feel as if she was bullied by American Blacks growing in Chicago as an African, and now has deep resentment and association issues.
She’s expressing the same argument I’ve seen time and time again growing up in the USA🇺🇸:
American Blacks to Africans: “You can’t call yourself black because you were never a slave”.
She’s replying with:
“Wrong, I can call myself Black or African if I want, because I’m seen as Black and African by Koreans.”
I feel as if she’s upset to see American blacks outside of America. As if she went to Korea because Koreans see Africans as “successful” (her own words).
You guys so proud to be slaved, you don’t hear African say that it’s like you guys are the centre of everything,
@@claudinefahibeit’s really irritating.. they own up to being slaves like
The Nigeria girl is blacker than the millions of black American with European blood mixed together
@sanha-127There was slavery in South Africa as well.
@sanha-127 omg thank you for this.. i've been waiting for someone to say that out as a congolese person!
even the main capital that people knows now as Kinshasa was called Leopoldville back then..
After ol' girl started talking out the side of her neck, spewing all that ignorance, indifference, lack of awareness, knowledge, and understanding, I couldn't finish the rest of the video.
A lot of Africans are on the side of the white aggressors , so this doesn't surprise me .
You didn't miss anything.
Yeah I was not expecting THAT. sheesh.🤦🏽♀️🍵
She couldn't wait to unleash all of her hatred and jealousy towards black Americans.
Same
When you only read a book and are not tied to the culture you will simply say slavery was 400 years ago. Even the emancipation wasn’t 400 years ago. Let alone everything that followed.
Nigerians always got something to say about African Americans for some reason. They even call us "akata" as a derogatory term. Not surprised in the least
Ironically she wouldn't even have the opportunity to have that blue passport were it not for African Americans
Akata? What? Which tribe calls you that? Nigerian has thousands of tribes and languages. Yorubas call yall Yankees.
Bro you didn’t do anything to Africans to come to America… keep believing those your dumb words
@@ARajantara777West Africans use the term. Don’t play willfully ignorant.
@@HonorableSiennay’all call Africans tether or whatever too
@@DanielWilson-bu4cq
Tether was created in response to all immigrants having derogatory terms for us.
That Nigerian lady from Chicago is just a joke. I’m first gen African and she doesn’t speak for most of us. Her Nigerian people in 🇿🇦 aren’t quiet about xenophobia discrimination they receive from native Sa.
Sooooooooooooo, hows da bush meat tasting in somali? i heard it always the main dish menu in somalia.......lol
Somali dont go there, Somalians were getting da whoop down in south africa also.
@@spellcaster8046 nah Nigerians love their 🙉 🥪
@@spellcaster8046 South Africans hate Nigerians more than us.
Omg great point!!!! Yesssss
Im so happy that african Americans are being acknowledged as a separate ethnic group from africa and Caribbean i love this for us this is all we ask for
They have always been seperate
Exactly what she said superior you think you better than the rest of the blacks
We’re never been one before bro 😂 what are you talking about.. We all different idk why y’all trying to keep repeating the same thing
But that dirty African American term is throwing me off
Black Americans*
I’ll never forget a certain phrase that all of my African friends who has spent time in America said to: “I never understood what it meant to be “black” until I came to America.”
It was not to say that they weren’t “black” but because they identify culturally where they’re from. In America, if you look “black” then you are “black” and that comes with “trouble.” No matter where you come from, you will be judged solely by the color of your skin.
I also noticed that most people outside of America didn’t understand the severity of “racism,” “slavery,” & everything else in America. I think that if they actually looked deeper, it would fix a lot of the misconceptions.
I'm a black american and I dont use the N word because its a racial slur. And don't want anyone black or not calling me that.
That’s fair ❤
I don’t use this word either. It’s an insult and a slur. People need to stop assuming all Black Americans are fine with it.
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
Nope, african american here:
Just stop talking about racism will not make it go away. We can try to ignore it, not speak about it, but the experiences of racism will still happen because we still have racists. The only way for racism to end is for people to stop being racist. And the history that african americans have is very unique compared to africa. It’s easy to not acknowledge racism in africa because over 90% of africa is of black people. African americans have to live in a society where the country they are from is not homogeneous. And the percentage of black people in america is very tiny compared to the blk population in africa. I’m so tired of foreigners, especially africans trying to tell americans, specifically black americans to stop being “obsessed” with racism. We experience racism on the daily and even get targeted because of just being black in america from every non-black race in america from authority figures to regular everyday people. We literally had not too long ago a white man, travel for miles to a black community grocery store and kiIIed 10 black people all because he hated black people. Some years ago, we had a white man target and kiII black people at a black church because he hated black people. The history in the US was always black people being kiIIed, targeted and hated all because we are black. We literally still have something called “sundown towns”, where black people cannot travel to these towns because if they are there after sundown, will more than likely end up dead or missing in those towns. The US is literally built off of racism. So to tell a black american or any american to stop talking about racism and it will go away is pure ignorance and lack of awareness.
Exactly! Pure ignorance.
You write all this it seems like you are crying while writing this. Exactly what she said you guys are sensitive, you guys can never except the truth, you guys are not the centre of everything
well racism is still there because it is a powerful political tool even on personal level. just look at how kids get away with shoplifting, how some of the crimes are hidden from press. on national level it can be diversion on how badly the poor are treated across the country, they can say to the white poors, stfu racist whites you are not blacks you got better stuff than the blacks. and say to the blacks well it's because these white ex-slavers you guys live is shit. while the rich got even richer with capitalism and the problems not getting fixed at all.
it's hard to not be racist if lots of them get benefited from it (using the race card is considered as racist IMO).
so unless all gangs suddenly disappear from the hood, living condition is better so nobody resort to crimes, racism (against poor black) will still dwell on the land.
also you blacks don't get the worst racist treatment, it's the other minorities, at least blacks can call out the racist card or call fellow black people, the immigrants don't have anyone to lean on except the unhelpful polices,
@@claudinefahiberacist
@@claudinefahibeur brain must be working with one brain cell
The ignorance is soo thick. The last segregated school shut down in 2016…Based on what the Nigerian woman said- (just using an analogy) black Americans should forget what happens today, just like how Korea should forget what Japan did even though it still has lasting effects on today’s kids parents /grandparents- correct me if I’m wrong.
Exactly!!!
also alot of bs occured after slavery. it wasnt this big rush of joy and rainbows. it was horrible
Right! When people say it was 400 years ago…I’m like okay? What came next? Was it unity? Did we sing hand and hand. No! Mf was still being hung, murder, badly beaten, and lie on, got 10min in court, etc. Even today I just watch a 18mim video of a white lady fighting the cops and shot one and she was still taken in alive. So stfu on the AA experience.🙄
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
What's wild to me about the African girl going into a tirade about African Americans and their focus on racism is that she's clearly not educated enough to speak on it as her perception is that we're dwelling on something that happened hundreds of years ago. That is indeed, not the case as slavery only ended in the mid 1800s and it didn't just end abruptly when it was supposed to for some people, hence, Juneteenth. There were other occurrences that trickled down from that into what we as a people experience today. Furthermore, if racism goes away when you don't acknowledge it, explain the Tulsa Massacre and other incidents that were similar that had black people flourishing, minding their business, and trying to get on with life. Some of us aren't hyperfixated on making the world acknowledge our differences/blackness and yet you've gotta be willfully blind to not see the many instances where the world won't let us forget how we're viewed. I wish the Americans responded to what she said aside from the one girl clearly being on the verge of tears. And don't get me wrong, I am aware that some of us do make things racial more often than it is meant to be that way but to minimize the lived experiences of other melanated people across the diaspora just because you've had the good fortune of not having to same experiences or experiencing those ripples is nasty work.
The Black American girls are so pretty with good personalities! The Rwandan man is very nice too seems very cool and can understand different perspectives. Meanwhile the Nigeruan.... such a horrible attitude and stupid opinions just full of anger.
So saying that being a constant victim is not a good thing is negative? If Korea is so horrible why haven't they left?
“Black Americans are always talking about racism, stop talking racism, and the racism won’t be there” The primary aim of this video ALONE is to underscore that there is an issue of racism that is to be recognized and engaging in conversations about these matters are essential for driving positive change. Acting as if racism doesn’t exist undermines the purpose of striving for a better future. If Renee believes African-Americans should ignore racism, then she doesn’t need to participate in this conversation. Renee’s invalidation of the black experience in America, combined with a lack of understanding of its ongoing impact, is both painful and detached from reality. Even though it occurred 400 years ago, the enduring impact of those historical disadvantages continues to affect the community today. The reason it persisted for so long is that we had to remain silent to survive. Now, we find ourselves in an era where we can openly address these issues to drive change, where punishment for speaking up is now viewed as socially unacceptable. Although that is still challenged it is more acceptable to fight for Black people than it was 400 years ago and the time in between. Black people in different parts of the world have diverse yet shared experiences, and dismissing the specific challenges faced by the black community in America is troubling. Renee’s expressed views inadvertently validate harmful ideals and beliefs. She appears uneducated about the nuances, lacks the ability to read the room, and displays poor mannerisms. Under no circumstances would I ever invalidate the experience of Black people in Africa, currently enduring a genocide. I haven’t personally witnessed the African experience, and regardless of how long ago a culture was impacted, it doesn’t mean they don’t still bear the consequences of historical actions.
Last slave was freed in 1942.
@@MickiRonnae1 Sadly, A young girl named Mae Louise Wall Miller didn't get her freedom until she was 14 in 1963. That was only 60 years ago! I mean my mom is 53.
This!
I'm not technically what other African would concern African because I'm born in France but DRC independance (my mom's country) was just not that long ago, my mom was not born yet but it was 6 years before she was and she is 56!
My grandma lived into it and it was awful from what i've learned of the history, Belgium people cutting off hands and other torture methods.. (and that was only one country, imagine now 16+ others!)
Maybe, our story is not the same but at the end, we all suffered at the end of the same people, Renee's words surprised me.
Also, thank you for mentioning the genocide, i didn't expect here but i'm glad to hear it even here.
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
African people can be so dismissive of the african american experience
But they love to ride the coattails of our ancestors from the foundation in which they laid. Clowns
Please, that's not "African people", that' s this specific lady in this specific video. Don't be her...thank you.💖
The women was Nigerian. Don’t associate the rest of Africa with her behavior
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
Not dismissive. There's people going through genocide that kiss the ground of the United States when they arrive black Americas ha live a brass soon yet talk about racism. Grew up with interent clean drinking water food yet complaining.
I’ve noticed in a lot of conversations like this, people directly from the country will be pointed at as the correct opinion, whereas American descendants are being whiny or what have you, which ignores the context that like… a lot of black Americans have the context of slavery in their history
This 🇳🇬 woman keeps calling herself an American. She needs to back to 🇳🇬
I'm nigerian and don't agree with her but let's be Frank, she's american on her passport
@@iykejnr6296you don’t know what she has.
In these types of discussions, it's always advantageous to have a black South African present because South Africa unfortunately has its own version of the N word that is completely unacceptable and might get you convicted.
@@RobFromDenver That's right. A lot of African countries don't know what it means to be black until they leave their home countries as just about everyone around them is also black and they have managed to retain a significant portion of their cultures and because of this, there is a lack of understanding to the plight of African Americans. While black South Africans have managed to retain their native cultures, they know intimately what it is to be black and still have to navigate the problems associated with race that most Africans don't have to and I believe that they can act as a bridge between fellow Africans and African Americans.
@@sofiamartakis2497why do y’all Americans want Africans to be victims and everything..the Average Africans just want to survive and take care of his family.. we don’t got time to be thinking who hate us or like us
@@esthertekam Who told you that I was an American?
@@esthertekam Colonization is literally why there is so much poverty. Same with the Middle East. And just because you don't care doesn't make it less of a concern.
@@mayathedreamgirl1357some of them font know. I'm nigerian and I know this
the idea of ignoring something & pretending isn’t there & it won’t be there is so illogical. as an african living outside of africa i can see that there is still active modern systemic oppression(i.e. modern day slavery in congo mines) that cannot be ignored. so just because you don’t encounter/experience it does not mean that the people who do should not speak on it.
Why did you have them switch perspectives? That's so confusing.
Ik I was confused
yeah that was dumb
Black American women are so pretty.
the Nigerian lady is so oblivious to other’s experience & it’s really irritating.
😂 I'm African and I thought the girl was being sarcastic when she was saying all that...
As a Kenyan 🇰🇪African who's never been out of Africa and never experienced racism just watching from afar and seeing everything from the media..I do understand everything that Americans go through and empathize with them..She doesn't speak 🗣️ for Africa !!!!!
As a Black man born and raised here in a America...Thank you⚘✊✌for letting us know you and even others from your area..Kenya understand. And by the way, again as I black man myself from America I Don't hold any hate against the sisters and brothers from Africa specifically✊✌. Just 2 put that out there
@@dioncarter8513 When she started talking I'm telling you my jaw dropped 😂I was so confused I thought she was joking but she just kept on going
" The stop talking about racism and racism will end part was the wildest part"
..me and my sister had to pose the video and look at ourselves in shock
I noticed that most people who don't understand are Nigerians which is weird coz they are the ones who travel more out of Africa and should understand that but they are the least understanding
@@SpotOn966 I hear you✌. Understandable.
You’re definitely not African
@@DanielWilson-bu4cq because you gave birth to me Daniel
As an European, french, and mixed (Euro-afro) person , I think the Nigerian girl went too far.
When a Nigerian says ‘you’re too much’ you’re supposed to be dancing of joy cuz Trudi you are too much on that point!! Perfectly worded. 😂
Imagine signing up for a show and hearing someone say the n word so blatantly and loudly…. Like what!!!!!!! I would not be ok
Yeah, I woulda asked her if she wanted to fight 😂
This Renee lady is so embarrassing. It's also sad to say she's not the only African that thinks this way and is the type to give their white friends the nword pass because "it's an American thing" (the taking offense or it being derogatory part).
It's so annoying seeing how she thinks and she's not even being sensitive about it towards Americans.
This is what happens when you move to someone's country and don't know or care about their history. Free loading immigrants who come here and receive all the benefits our ancestors fought and died for
I have plenty of African friends and what I learned is that my East African friends are more knowledgeable and concerned about Black American experiences of racism vs my West African friends who are indifferent.
The concept is a lot foreign too most African until like the World trad centre when America was put in the spot and people start gaining interest
@@citamora The ones I know who get it came to the U.S. or were born here. From the West I mean. No all yes, but a lot do.
That's how we got in this mess in the first place, West Africans being STUPID and willing to engage in the slave trade. We wouldn't even be having this conversation if West Africans were aware of white supremacy and rejected it. Instead they embraced it and still to this day they're pretending it doesn't exist. Wowww
The irony AA are West Africa and all the slaves dungeons are in West Africa
@@AlhajiBah-mo3ud And mostly Nigerians. At least based on DNA testing
Slavery wasn't 400 years ago, jim crow was just a few years before i was born , oh girl don't truly know the history
I'm disappointed by the Nigerian lady's viewpoint that seems to disregard the struggles of African Americans. As a fellow Nigerian, I believe it's crucial to acknowledge that, while we may not have faced the racism, we should empathize with their experiences.
To unify as a global Black diaspora, Africans need to learn about the history of racial injustices faced by Black Americans, rooted in a complex history of slavery, segregation, systemic discrimination, and ongoing prejudice. By respecting and acknowledging these struggles, we can build a more empathetic and inclusive diaspora.When we travel to countries with small Black communities, people often see us through a racial lens, subjecting us to similar prejudices. This shared experience should unite us, not divide us.The statement that "racism" ended 400 years ago is false, as recent events like George Floyd's tragic death highlight ongoing systemic injustices. It's vital not to dismiss the fight against racism. I apologize for such ignorance and hope she can better understand the importance of empathy and education regarding our African American counterparts.
Very well said. I agree. We should love each other and heal. We are family not enemies and we do share an experience. When we come together, we are powerful. Things are slowly changing. Africans are connecting with us AA and SOULAA (African American) are reaching back out to Africans and trying to connect. It's beautiful
@@zogrimmwoodagreed
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
Imagine living in Nigeria and having a victim mentality I'm sure it won't get you killed. We need millions more or constant victim Nigerians. The land will be empty so European can inhabit it and actually make it productive.
Us African we are with you African American in this, we see what is going on in America ,we don't leave our own behind we support you guys ,we don't need to fight ourselves we need to be United as one
Thank you!! We are all black at the end of the day just from different parts of the world
@@hellothere8347 yeah. I would love for all of us to unite, but not before kicking out, hateful, destructive and ignorant people from our respective communities
America is so racist huh? Then why are hundreds of Africans risking their lives to come here? African Americans stayed in this country during segregation that tells you all you need to know about their victim mentality. If at it's worst they didn't leave why are they complaining now that it's peaceful?
@@rickyronny4019 So a person that constantly tells you you're a victim is good but the person that says to stop living in a victim narrative is bad? 😂😂😂 Yeah I wouldn't want someone selling me victimization all the time.
@@flimcomedy7667 no simpleton. The person who ignorantly downplays the actual issues that people who are labeled victims go through are insensitive and stupid
Renee is ignorant. I’m Jamaican but I’ve lived in the uk for over 33 years and have never experienced racism towards me personally but when I was in America in 2013, I experienced racism because looking at me, they just thought I was an African American until I spoke and they heard my British accent and then they changed toward me.
As a real Black American( ADOS), this posting is so "cringy" and horrible to see Africans hating on Black Americans when we made it " cool" and normalized the world wide acceptance of Blackness . Our American Hip Hop culture open the door to Africans that were previously closed. Stop the jealousy and appreciate our contributions to the diaspora, and just enjoy the benefits from our accomplishments like everyone else has done for centuries.
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
Hating it's not hate. Why should you constantly be a victim and constantly look for racism? We can discuss history and facts but constant victim narratives is another beast altogether.
I feeeeel like what Renee was trying to say is that Africans (namely, Nigerians) don't carry racism on top of their heads. They choose to ignore it and highlight other issues (e.g. socioeconomic status, skin tone, etc). This may be due to the way Nigeria was colonialized. Black Americans Americans, on the other hand, will absolutely call a spade a spade (i.e. racism) and tackle it head on. So, in essense, they do not shy around/about the topic. Both ways are necessary. One is not necessarily better than another.
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
Education is key. The young lady from Africa needs to be educated. She says that you need to stop talking about racism and discrimination. I don’t believe that she understands the reason why she’s able to travel to and from America to get a visa to even go to any American schools . In order to stop it from happening we need to talk about it we need to put it out in the open so that it can be addressed . Its not in our minds it is very real .
Also, can Renee explain to me why Nigerians skin bleach and how is that not related to colorism which is an expression of racism?
Trudi was singing in V's tiny desk session! She's just adorable and talented.💖💖💖
My grandmother was a sharecropper in Mississippi and experienced harsh racism. My aunt and mom saw burning crosses. My mom remembers having to sit in the back of the bus. When my dad came back from fighting in Vietnam, the first thing he saw was a group of white men beating a black man.
Fun fact. It was the Africans who helped white people and Arabs enslave black people Africans are not the same as black people, Africans have always has had hate for black people because they are much more creative and a better people than Africans. Fact. As you can see by the video the Africans is much more aggressive to the black people from America. It has always been that way. So please stop thinking Africans are the same as black people in America, Europe or the Caribbean like Jamaica we are all different people just like Asians are not the same. Japan, China, Korea, west Africans like Nigeria, or Ghana or Ethiopians Somalia all hate black people.
That one clip is craazy💀💀
If we don't speak up on racism it'll just do nothing but 'rise' more and be treated like normal. Why yall think certain diasporas/ ppl in general still go through what they've been going through😭???
The one young African lady said we are stuck 400 years ago. Slavery ended less than 190 years ago, and racism continued under Jim Crow well into the 60's and beyond in clandestine ways. I don't sweat it because I overcome it regardless.
My mother Marched with Martin Luther King during the civil rights movement when Black Americans fought for the civil rights of all Americans at the time there were many Asian people marching. Understand that solidarity scared people so remember that. My other is still alive, systemic racism is ingrained into the system of the United States AND exported to other countries. Currently I live in a Southern state, a Red State. We still have SUNDOWN TOWNS in the United States. Racism does not go away if you ignore it Ever,...it has to be addressed or you and your family can loose your freedom and your life.
as a british nigerian, i want to correct the nigerian lady. however, i won't repeat what has been said in the top comments. i agree with them, and so i want to bring a slightly different perspective.
you cannot just "move on" from a system so ingrained and structured as racism.
let's look at nigeria, for example.
tribalism thrives. christianity and other abrahamic religions had been FORCED onto us. so much so that the local aunty is demonising her own ancestor's culture.
all of that is a RESULT of colonialism. of racism. it didn't go away. it changed our country, people, and culture for the worst. the people themselves, mostly don't realise or accept it. bc they've been completely consumed by it.
that's what happens when you "move on" without acknowledging and FIXING the damage.
it even trickles down to the 2nd gen immigrant families in europe, who are so separated from their culture, bc the parents refuse to teach them. they want them to assimilate, so they give them "white" names, they don't speak their language at home, they put a relaxer on their child's head...
that is pretty much my experience, being born and raised in europe. the only part of my culture that has stayed with me..is the food 😅 the nollywood movies, the music.
but probe me any further, and i will appear 'white-washed'. or, in my particular case, washed by other people's cultures. including other black cultures, haha.
@RobFromDenver thank you so much! and i agree, i hate seeing the diaspora wars. it's definitely a result of being willfully ignorant.
Ehh, I had more hope for your comment when I read the first couple words, then it went downhill.
I won’t go into this too much from my Christian perspective, but as a Christian one who hates cultural Christianity, although I grew up as one until truly coming into an authentic faith as 19yr old (without my family’s influence).
I have the right to view ancestoral practices as demonic if I have a worldview that suggests that it is. The fact that we should hold onto and accept everything within our culture because it’s part of our heritage is something I strongly disagree with. I am actually from New Orleans, and so VooDoo and witchcraft isn’t a far off ancestral practice! I love my birthplace, but I’m not accepting VooDoo and it doesn’t mean anything for the culture. We don’t have to perpetuate ever part of culture. We can condemn our ancestors they don’t get a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card because they are ancestors, ancient, and/or ignorant. Human sacrifice was practiced by many cultures, even if I descended from such a culture, I’d look back and say demonic and reserve the right to have a different worldview, condemning their beliefs as having been wrong.
Anyways, that’s my point I wanted to get across. I can reject and condemn the beliefs or cultural practices of the past. We shouldn’t blindly accept parts of culture, but should examine them and think, we parts do I rejoice in, what parts can be reconstructed and redeemed (if it wasn’t a practice or thing wholly good), and what parts should be wholesale rejected.
@LaineJade you can be disappointed at my response all you want, but it won't change the irreparable damage that abrahamic religions, have caused to many african cultures. that's just the truth. and unfortunately, it's not just limited to africa.
you assumed that i said we should "hold onto every part of our culture". i'm well aware of the cons of most traditional religions & in no did i say we should embrace them. i just don't agree that ancestral worship or holistic practices should be categorised under the same umbrella as blood sacrifice or FGM.
moreover, the same criticisms can be held for christianity. which is why there are so many factions, bc not even those who are practicing agree with it completely. according to them, you can pick and choose what you believe & will practice, without taking away from the religion as a whole. so i don't see why the same can't apply to african religions?
additionally, with your example of haitian voodoo, we can't ignore the hostile propaganda, undeniably created by white, christian slave owners. it's a hereditary religion. meaning it's so exclusive that, who's to say the christian depiction is to be trusted? they had little to no understanding of said religion.
so basically, i agree with your last point. but i'd have to emphasise that it also applies to abrahamic religions. not just traditional practices beyond the west.
@@imanuellaakp4233 New Orleans VooDoo doesn’t directly come from Haitian VooDoo.
Also, everyone has bias clearly. Your answer seems heavily biased against Christianity and you obviously don’t have an understanding as the truth of Christianity versus common misconceptions that come hypocrites, but I won’t say much more because it’s the RUclips comment section! I’ll be praying for you though! It’s all love on my end for God and people! 🙏🏾💕
@EricaElaineHarris i didn't say new orleans voodoo came from haitian voodoo. however, both of them have the same origins; enslaved black people who borrowed their beliefs from african practices & the christianity they were subjected to.
anyway, to assume i don't have a detailed understanding of christianity, just bc i provided the necessary criticisms to mirror your argument, is assumptious.
not only do i come from a christian background & went to a catholic school, but the dominant culture of england revolves around christianity. our factors of christianity are much older than your country's own, so they have been tried and tested for centuries. knowing the details of that is only an eighth of our religious education.
i may be agnostic now, but that doesn't make a difference on how i was raised or my level of knowledge.
also, what is true christianity and when does your version, become an entirely different religion? what you consider a "misconception" could very much be the intended message. it's difficult to find out since the bible was already written and rewritten with the intention to control the ignorant masses.
Slavery was 158 years ago wtf
This is what happens when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Slavery didn’t end 400 years we just endured 400 years of slavery and no civil rights. This is the mentality of many Africans and the reason why we don’t get along. You have are receiving the benefits of the hard work black Americans fought for so you can be seen as a normal human being and not a 2nd class citizen.
@Stephenwhite013 you hear it in their voice, they loath uz while simultaneously cosplaying as usual. When the the sista checked her she looked Hella stupid, then she went straight to the Chicago, and handouts. She hated that they have and will always live in our shadow's
@@RobFromDenver already knowing, South Africa has the highest rape rate in the world. But the anger and envy of these people particularly the Nigerians is wild. She was happy with saying nigger and then cleaned it up and didn't say that shit again. Dunno who hyped up these people like they some notch but is comical
@@RobFromDenver this is exactly what she was talking about, you guys are sensitive
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@@mikejones-wn1swAfricans never live in your shadows.. we’re not the same people your competition are with your fellow Americans…. We don’t got time to care about who is in who shadow.. we just want to make it out and take care of our family
Moses' first point was kinda similar to my experience as well. There is a way people perceive you if you say you are Black American or African. In my experience, if I said I was American, I would receive this excitement and interest from the person. They would ask a lot of questions, tell me about their dreams of going there, the American movies and artists they like whereas if I said i was African, it would be like, "Okay" and nothing. I understand, though it is mainly due to ignorance and what is shown on tvs.
Yeah, considering to thanks to USA's money and their army protecting South Korea is not a poor country anymore.
thats exactly what koreans go through compared to other asians.
I’m American and I don’t usually say I am unless someone asks because they tend to start kissing up extra hard. Mostly I am assumed to be from Latin America.
I haven't read every comment but I'd like to say how wonderful it is to see so many African's standing up for the struggle of African American people. When Ms I grew up in Chicago made her comment, my head 🤯🤯🤯.
Ignoring cancer, makes it worse
Ignoring past due bills, makes it worse
Ignoring the, “check engine” light, makes it worse
Ignoring a fire, makes it worse
Renee, please explain how ignoring racism makes it go away?
This such weird talking point that ppl have been circulating around.
The way everybody knew and asked her if she had anything else to add😭
The Nigerian sister is bugging. There’s even racism and classism in Africa. Extremely insensitive that’s why I think we must stay away from such topics when it comes to Black American discussions of inequality. It’s a real thing and it exits, we must talk about it.
When she said people around the world knew Nigeria, I thought she was going to talk about the scam emails we all receive from Nigeria.
Rude much, we're also known for Afrobeats, and as a Nigerian I don't claim her, she wasn't talking from a Nigerian perspective at all I think she has some deep rooted hatred for African Americans
@@mipsgacha Yes, I agree. Nigerians have many things to be proud of. Rema, Burna Boy, and Tiwa Savage are just a few Afrobeat artists on my playlist and the playlists of people around the world.
Unfortunately, Nigerian scammers have earned an international name for themselves, as well.
"IN NOVEMBER 2021, Oluwaseun Medayedupin was arrested by the Nigerian police in Lagos.
An investigation found that he had been pursuing “disgruntled employees” from American companies and pushing them to release ransomware on internal enterprise servers, offering a percentage of the cut if they agreed to collaborate in the attack.
This was a sophisticated social engineering scheme, far more advanced than the notorious “Nigerian prince” emails that have made the country of Nigeria synonymous with scams."-- Wired magazine, April 2022
@@mipsgachanot really and afro beats aren’t good
@@Morningtimez Afrobeats is good what r u on abt, I'm sure u only listened to calm down smh
@@mipsgacha get over it i don’t like it
“Black” Americans stop saying “As an African.” We are home.
Imagine an African-American going to Nigeria and saying “tribalism can end if you stop talking about it”
I'm 100% korean, born n raised in usa. I asked my black friends, where are you from? Like what's your nationality background, country. And my black friends can't answer it. They say they don't know. Also, they say I'm black American. Their history goes back kinda far and from slavery, they lost their nationality.
Thank you for understanding. I don’t think Africans can relate at all.
I agree with you 100%
We are american. We never lost our nationality because we have been american for many generations. I’m a black american and have done a dna test. Just know that all african americans who are descendants of african american slaves will not be able to claim to be apart of one country in africa. Our dna is a mixture of alot of the countries across the whole continent of africa. Like my african dna has nigerian, ghanian, senegalese, benin and tobago, egyptian, ivory west coast. Most of my african dna is either subsaharan or west african. But there is no definite african country my african dna came from. Learn more about african american history to get your answer on where us FBAs/ADOS/black american/african americans come from.
And to add, african americans are technically mixed due to the transatlantic slave trade as our ancestors were forced to be like breeding farms for the colonizers to “breed” more slaves. So my dna alone shows the history of the slave trade as my dna is mixed.
-83% of my dna is african dna
-17% of my dna is a mixture of southeast asian, indigenous american, carribean and european.
Every african american who are descendants of african slaves in america will have roughly on avg between 70-85% african dna and the rest of their dna will be many other non-african dna.
Just understand that us african americans are a distinct group of black people in the african diaspora as our history and dna is very unique and specific to us african americans.
@@RobFromDenver
Exactly. I wish they would’ve had actual african/black americans in the video to speak from the perspective of and on the behalf of actual african americans. Because all i saw and heard were africans who were speaking on the african american side of things speaking from the perspective of an african immigrant in the US and not of an actual american descendant of slaves in american. They will always see through and know the experience of an african immigrant in america and not of an american descendant of a slave in america.
@@graycat7704I’ve seen where some of my African friends can and some can’t but that’s based on their own experiences and not so much their exposure to African Americans.
She would've had the right one with me. As an ADOS (American Descendant of Slavery) who's lived abroad I have had to deal with my fair share of arrogant Nigerians.
You’re acting like y’all any better
@@DanielWilson-bu4cq Do ADOS folk tell Africans to get over colonialism? Do we tell them they don't have a culture whilst simultaneously imitating their culture? I could go on.
@@stevendunn2501 who imitate y’all culture? Who and yes y’all don’t have a culture it’s the hard truth., your people have said worse to African.. worse worse like 5 cent a day,flies on their face mud hit and blah blah blah
@@DanielWilson-bu4cq
The entire world imitates our culture... There's literally people rapping in Europe, the middle east and Africa. There's a Jazz scene in every country. The UK was obsessed with Rock that also came from us. You're delusional if you think people aren't imitating our culture and the fact that I can name multiple music genres we created is proof we have a culture... Music is part of a groups culture.
@@down-b8197 music is. Genre not a culture.. whose people started rock not y’all do cause few people in Europe make jazz that means the whole world imitate your culture 🤡 you have no culture you have none you’re naming music genre as your culture
As an East African, what is that Nigerian lady on about? Shes from the MAJORITY of her country. Of course Blck Americans have to worry about what the majority does as a minority group ESPECIALLY because the majority supported horrible treatment for HUNDREDS of years. I am legit floored at this level of ignorance and lack of empathy. Literally read 1 minute of American history and you’ll understand why they have to keep watch and protect themselves.
Bro what is this african lady on about🤣🤣😂
I think its really important that we are all respectful of eachkthers views. I think that words carry alot of power and it shows great disrespect to use words that you know hurt others, for example, the N word. I dont think that just because a word doesnt upset yoy, that it gives you right to say it and ignore eachothers feelings. To me, the N word is one of the most painful and disrespectful word in the English language, its not a joke.
Bullshyt!! Africans don’t experience racism in Korea?? Bull. SHYT. That’s all I ever heard from every single African I met during the 6, nearly 7 years I spent in Korea. These two Africans are painting a very different picture from the scores of Africans I met, worked with and whom I had as roommates whilst in Korea.😮
Slavery was not 400 years ago BTW. Jim Crow lasted until 1968 which is legalized segregation. Slavery ended in 1867. Which is just two 80 year old people back to back. Grand parents grandparents. My grandmother's grandmother was born into slavery.
Trudi is so cute though. I wanna hug her.
Note: We celebrate Juneteenth June 19, 1865 for a reason. Not 400 years ago.
I really wish they hadn't made them switch perspectives. It was very confusing.
Dear Nigerian and other black Africans, we American blacks that come from the blood that splattered the cotton fields, do not give a sh*t if you don’t like us or if you look down on us. What we endured in America is far more damaging than your opinion is. We do our own thing and we create greatness from the depths of despair and we do it effortlessly. We never look to Africa for leadership or as inspiration. We only look as the land of Africa as the world’s origin but we don’t look at “Africans” to copy or imitate because we (black Americans) are the greatest creators of arts and other things.
If here in Latin America there is a little racism, I don't even want to imagine it in the United States.
Awesome discussion!✌🏾😎👍this is something that needs to be talked about!💯