Bladesinger 3.0 (The Flamesinger): D&D
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- If I were to play a Bladesinger in D&D 5e today, this is how I would build them. A combination of burst damage, sustained DPR, and strong spellcasting :).
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Level 1:(11:17)
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Levels 7-9:(35:28)
Levels 10-13:(43:19)
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Errata: You can't cast Shadowblade as a Bonus action and use your reaction on the same turn to cast Absorb Elements. The simple solution is to cast Shadow Blade on Round 1 and make attacks, saving Blade Song for Round 2. A little dicier for defense/concentration, but gets into better damage more quickly.
Why cant you do that? Reactions are outside of rounds so you can indeed cast a leveled Spell and a second as your reaction. Same as Fireball, enemy Counterspell, your Counterspell in your round.
@@desolate0199 because Fireball is an action, not a bonus action. If you cast a spell with a bonus action, the only other spell you can cast is a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action.
@@Vergilius314 ah okay, thank you. But this is so weird. I imagine that this got implemented for action economy within your turn. But RAW makes reaction spells more restricted that way.
@@desolate0199 yeah, because it's unusual to be casting a reaction within your turn, so they didn't make the rule with that in mind.
@@desolate0199 I y tt9yt😊😮
At this point I want a party of bladesingers, each representing a different build from this series 😂
We might need a few different parties to use all of them, even as purely Bladesingers.
An all bladesinger party!? Actually one of the few subclasses that might allow for enough diversity of builds.
those poor, poor BBEGs...
I'd like to see a party of bladesingers of different flavors made by different people.
They can't defeat the A-men
Me: "I'm excited for new and interesting class concepts/combinations"
Also me: "WOOOOT, BLADESINGER AGAIN, LETS GOOOO!"
To be fair, a lot of minmaxers avoid multiclassed bladesingers so he's not wrong. Lol
I imagine this guy shouting, "Flame, Cleanse Me!" and "Flame, Grant Me Strength!" like a lunatic from Elden Ring every time he attacks.
I'm stealing this.
Sword make me awesome
I imagined it as a form of "wild magic"
Bladesinger Nova 2.0. One thing I really like about how many bladesingers you've built is that it demonstrates how to tune a build to fit different goals. Can't wait for Bladesinginger 56.0 in DnD 10e.
Bladesinger 3.0 (The Flamesinger): D&D #130
Level 1:(see above) [wizard 1 & race]
Level 2:(see above) [wizard 2 & subclass]
Level 3:(@21:07) [wizard 3]
Level 4:(@24:58) [wizard 4 & ASI]
Level 5:(@25:57) [wizard 5]
Level 6:(@28:23) [wizard 6]
Level 7:(see above) [fighter 1 & fighting-style]
Level 8:(@38:14) [fighter 2]
Level 9:(@38:42) [fighter 3 & subclass]
Level 10:(see above) [wizard 7]
Level 11{though Colby says 7}:(@) [wizard 8 & ASI]
Level 12:(@44:19) [wizard 9]
Level 13:(@46:28) [wizard 10]
Level 14:(see above) [wizard 11]
Level 15:(@51:31) [wizard 12 & ASI]
Level 16:(@51:55) [wizard 13]
Level 17:(@52:22) [wizard 14]
you're so helpful !!!!! thank you
You go ahead and cast Tensor's Colby, you have no reason to be ashamed. My bladesinger won't and at least one of our wizards will be capable of casting spells.
Ha ha! Im just glad you watched so you could see me laughing at myself 😉
Would be a really cool campaign idea for you two as the only players both playing bladesingers.
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That would be awesome. ❤
I can see Tenser's Transformation as a Contingency: "If a melee attack actually damages me."
Already looking forward to 4.0
You know it's coming
After 3 is 3.5 before you get to 4.0
This means he started pathfinder too soon!
I'm holding out for Bladesinger 3.14.
Looks like it’s coming this week
i see bladesinger, i click like
This
I see Colby, I click like
One of us, one of us
This is the Way.
I have officially been sold on Bladesinger. Wizard has always been my favorite class, but gishes are so cool! Bladesinger is the perfect sort of character. I'll never not click on one of your Bladesinger videos. When you said you were returning to your old ways, I immediately thought, "Custom Lineage," and was instantly proven wrong. Gotta love elven accuracy!
I just started playing as a Bladesinger few weeks ago. While our group was out shopping in a town at a blacksmith I summoned my Shadowblade and asked the Blacksmith how much he would give for it. He was willing to pay me 25g for it… when we entered combat later in that session the DM realised why I did that. And said “Well played, I let you cast Booming Blade and Green Flame with your Shadowblade from now on…” since we putt price on the Shadowblade in that campaign 😂
ha ha nice!
The ink used to pen the Shadow Blade spell into your Spellbook definitely costs more than a silver piece, so GFB and BB should def work with it. 😅
Yes but the spell book isn’t a sword, so what you do is ink the spell onto a sword and then use a dimensional space to put that sword in your spellbook. Big brain plays
@@Smol_EriI mean, technically speaking your spellbook can be in various forms. Who's yo say yours isn't a bag full of stuff you wrote them on in the spur of the moment?
@@piranhaplantX Back then I was half the DM I am now, So these days i've actually just made runesmiths in my game, that allow wizards to carve their spellbook into a sword and just use that as a spellbook. Have a wizard with an adamantine rapier that's also their spellbook and the player loves it.
I will have to pass on the bag of stuff written on them idea to my players, one of them will probably see insperation in that and use it and as a DM I am always excited to enable cool stuff like that.
@@Smol_Eri i played with a guy who’s spell book was a pack of cards as his backstory was “cheap traveling magician turned actual wizard”. Super cool idea
@@thoughts2743 I love when players have ideas like that. One of my players wanted to basically be "genshin impact the wizard" so i allowed them to have a foci that was just a gem in an intricate container to be their "vision" even ended up using it in a storyline about gods and demons. They loved it. I wonder if i should ever tell them I've never played genshin impact and just looked up a 5 minute lore vid XD
I'd love a "cuttingroom floor" episode where you go through some of the concepts you tried to build around that never made it into a video, and what issues you encountered trying to make them work, perhaps why they got cut in the first place.
Yes!!! Let's go! I'm only 20 seconds in, "If I were to play in a Bladesinger in a dnd campaign today, this is how I would play it." ~Colby
“There’s no song today”
How a singular man destroyed my entire week.
I mean, why else would I watch an hour video without the super rewarding song at the end?!
I promise to try and never let it happen again
TGIT! Thanks Colby! So excited for this episode. You've pushed your love of the bladesinger on me!
Thanks for the excellent build Colby! Your ideas have been so instrumental to helping me not only build effective characters, but also keep with strong theming that makes RP as fun as combat.
Yay! Bladesinger’s are so much fun- love your D&D builds Colby. Thank you!
You're the kindest human I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. Much love, and keep up the great work!
Video quality looked great!!! Alignment for Art on the wall was spot on! Thanks as always!
YES FINALLY! Bladesinger 2.0 got me into the subclass, and it has absolutely been my favourite in all my years. Thank you so much for this video!
You my good sir, are my absolute favorite D&D content creator.
Between your love of Bladesingers, all things Gish, a voice that puts me to sleep after work (that's a good thing), and a totally normal and healthy obsession with Tensers Transformation (Which is the best spell in the game. I don't care what anyone says), its almost as though we were cut from the same cloth.
I tip my hat to you my friend, keep up the awesome work.
Tenser's Transformation is definitely my favorite Gish spell but I think it's so silly how it grants you heavy armor proficiency since it would take the duration of the spell to don the armor. You can't wear the armor and then cast the spell because you can't cast spells while wearing armor you are not proficient in. Amazing spell and being able to whip out a shield is super helpful. I just find that really silly. But if you ever have a magic suit of plate armor that you can don in an action and it follows you around, it's definitely handy then.
@@sci7zo Artificer Armorer dip?
I’ve been watching your videos since the PAMlock and I have to say, I’m really proud of you and your growth since then. You feel a lot more relaxed, your quality in videos has improved significantly, and I can’t wait to see how your channel grows from here. Much love 🖤
Love the Google Docs spreadsheet that you include! Figuring out all the math is a Deep Dive for sure - 🤓 Appreciate all the content!
I wonder, why dont you use the art work as a thumbnail? its really good work. Also, Thanks for this! i have been wanting to play a bladesinger for so long.
I wonder how Randall would feel about that. I think it makes sense to only want his art associated with the "ad" portion for him, but I don't think it would hurt his brand or anything. Might just require more work from Colby and the gang to adapt it to a thumbnail.
Might have to try it one day. Studies seem to indicate that people click on faces more than other stuff. I wish RUclips allowed for A/B testing :(
@d4: D&D Deep Dive No shade towards you in particular, but it's really disappointing when content creators are forced to dilute their content to appeal to the algorithm gods.
At the end of the day, quality comes from diversity, and it stinks when the feed is flooded with generic thumbnails to farm the maximum engagement.
I will say, I do enjoy the thumbnails that you make minor edits to; little effects that are relevant to the concept you're building. Anyway, love your content!
@@tdarassp I will say, it might be a tad overblown to call not being able to put custom art in the thumbnail diluting content. It's kinda sad, especially since the art is cool, but the content (the video) is near entirely unaffected by it.
@Devin Short I was admittedly speaking in more general terms. As they said, statistics indicate a higher click rate on certain aspects of a thumbnail. This is why you often see so many thumbnails with a wacky facial expression, bit bright letters and a ridiculous/unnecessary arrow.
And while the thumbnail can seem insignificant, most YTers and content creators in general are well aware of how to follow very strict guidelines to maximize clicks and engagement. That's where the diluting comes from
I absolutely love seeing another blade singer! Thank you Colby!!!
My Chronurgy Wizard died last session on level 4 and I want to play Bladesigner as my second character because I want to play Wizard. So you are right on time 👍🏻
MOM Kobold could get Green-Flame Blade as a Charisma-based cantrip, which would reduce the damage taken from this trick. Plus, you could be like,
"Roar, I dragon! Eat fire-ow-ow! Roar!!!"
I think drow could too?
@@k0pstl939 They can cast Dancing Lights as a Charisma-based cantrip, not Green-Flame Blade. A High Elf can choose any cantrip off the Wizard spell list, but will cast it as an Intelligence-based spell, which would result in more damage taken by the character and really isn't much different than casting it as a Bladesinger.
Realistically, Elven Accuracy is probably just too good to pass up, but it's cool to find a synergy where being bad at a cantrip is useful, especially when it's a race trait that's usually pretty weak.
If your charisma modifier is -1 does that mean a charisma-based green-flame blade would do 0 damage before level 5? I believe you have to actually take damage to use absorb elements. This does seem really useful past level 5 though, since its 1d8-1 at level 5, or a 12.5% chance to flub, and 2d8-1 at level 11, which means you always take damage (yay?)
So it has come full circle! XD I love bladesingers so much, thank you for this, as Bladesinger definitely needed an update since last time.
PS: LOVE your FemShep poster!
Build almost exactly this build over a year ago as recurring villain. To this day it's my group's most favourite boss fight.
What's interesting, I came up with almost exactly the same time playing element explaining the fire theme. He opened up a fight with "I will baptise you by fire"
They were very scared
I literally pulled this up to look up 2.0 after a year or so and you uploaded a new one an hour ago. Crazy timing dude.
This video is an absolute masterpiece. The build itself, the solid arguments, the realistic expectations, the cheeky use of the old intro music
LOVE IT 🥳👌
Cheers!
AHHHHHH 3.0!! I haven't even watched the video yet but I'm dying to see it!! Great job my brother in Bladesinging!
lol this is great, I was just building a brand new Bladesinger as a back up characer using your 2.0 guide. I was going to make her a half-elf because our DM gives us set stats to allocate as we want and a free level 1 feat.
yesss. i am about to play in a campaign next week and I am making a bladesinger. thank you for this.
That's literally the only 3.0 thing in your channel. Congrats mate! Love your vids, and I'm also loving the PF2E ones!
IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING! I have waited so long for this!
Wooo! Here we go again! 🎉❤ glad to be home. I’m currently playing a spirit shroud short swords Bladesinger :)
Love your videos, they're very helpful :) Bladesinger is one of my favourite classes.
Loving these videos! Glad I found your channel. Now I'm looking forward to seeing warlock builds later, once i finish this video.
My personal ruling for my table is that the first weapon you choose to attack with is the primary weapon, and your bonus action attack must use the second weapon, whether you attacked with your second weapon or not as part of the attack action. So, for this build, if you attack first with the shortsword so you can cantrip-cast, your bonus action attack must be with the shadow blade; so, it still works with the build
Good job, that's a creative build, thank you! Oh and definitely do get the DScribe flavor text inscribed. They are always good. But this one rocks 🤘
This was a great idea, nice job Coby, also Pseudo Flame Smite.
Finally, a way for me to blow up myself along with my enemies after I've run out of fireballs!
Jokes aside, I love this character concept. Thanks for the build!
in regards to "is tenser's transformation good?" that's actually two different questions. the Colby version of the question is: "is this the best option for what i'm trying to accomplish?" in which case, yeah it might just be. the Chris version of the question is: "is this the best thing i could be doing for the same resource cost?" in which case the answer is probably not. the secret third question is: "is this the most fun and flavorful thing i could be doing?" and that answer varies wildly from person to person, but is realistically the most important
A Magus build AND a Bladesinger build back to back? Colby you're spoiling us!
Dang, I thought the shadow blade was going to be your darkest bladesinger build 😂
I spent a while looking at the Absorb Elements spell for a while and on a Bladesinger it almost feels like a reactionary defensive arcane smite and I like it. This also give me ideas for my Sun Elf I want to build
The video quality is great Colby 👍🙂 and thanks for the video !
This build sounds so fun!
I figured this out the other day - a lvl 11 Horizon Walker/ lvl 3 Echo Knight can make 11 attacks in a nova round.
Great gimmick, cool flavor synergy. Might make for good content.
This build gets really nutty but man it sounds silly! Wonderful build again Kolby!
Colby, U Sir, Are A
Bladesinger GOD !!!
YES! I've waited years for this!
Colby, I love your videos! You rock. I’m one of those who enjoy building characters almost as much as playing them. 😁
28:48 for me, the best extra-attack cantrip is Bladeward, basically doubling our hp from any physical attack
In my homebrews - other than shadowblade being twinnable if you have two free hands - the description ends in "a shadowblade is worth 1gp, but they're usually not for sale
Hands down best start to a vid youve done yet hahaha
I'm gonna make my first bladesinger with this guide THANK YOU SO MUCH
One of my favorite characters to play is your artificer/blade singer. That one perfectly fit my preferred play style
I think the 4k quality shows! Your sound is great also. Love the new space!
55:25 The way you use editing to convey how you are self aware of some of the crazy is awesome :-)
Shadar Kai make kickass bladesingers - 3 free misty steps a day is to die for!
This is amazing! And perfect for me, my main character at the moment is a bladesinger who is overly self-critical, severely lacking in self-preservation instinct, and one level away from that sweet sweet level 6. This is perfect, I will definitely have to take notes 😂
Hey Colby, i didn't realize you were in 4k! That explains why you're lighting was so bright and epic!
Also, TT for the win! Totally a great way to flavor a power rangers/superhero/salior moon transformation to a character!
Hold on, let me take 6 seconds to get into my superhero suit. Mage armor, blade song, AS, TT😂
Love the Bladesinger build! I'd like to see some oddball stuff that doesn't necessarily make it onto the charts for sustained or burst damage, but contributes in some other meaningful way. Or maybe some kind of thematic character that normally wouldn't put up good numbers. I'll be honest though, it doesn't really matter what the build is, because it's cool just to see your breakdowns and ideas come to life. Thanks for all the cool videos Colby.
A party member who happens to take Twilight Cleric can give you Temp HP, allowing you to proc Absorb Elements that way without worry for your actual HP. Do with this info what you will.
Excellent idea
Also, the aura is dim light so it's synergistic with Shadow Blade!
I’m definitely coming back to this video later to see if I can find a comment from Chris! Haha love that you called him out on that spell
Having played a straight Bladesinger until 12th lvl, I think the main argument against Shadow Blade is that it uses your concentration and prevents you from casting other awesome concentration spells. Yes, it's worth casting when your highest level spell slots are 2nd lvl, sometimes still when 3rd lvl. After that I really didn't bother preparing it any more.
Thats why i love the tal'dorei homebrewed dual concentration feat. Let's you play with and prep more spells you normally wouldn't due to optimization.
Playing a dhampir soul knife bladesinger, and there's no regrets. Favorite rogue-ish character I've played so far.
Can you give me the build please? That sounds so much fun
Can you give us the Build?
In case of the two weapon fighting, I would rule in my table to attack with the opposite weapon from the one you use last for the hit. Ex. If I start my attack with weapon A and then hit with weapon B for the second attack, the bonus extra attack would be weapon A. This scenario would make the most sense.
i got the approval from my dm to use Green Flame Blade with Shadow Blade when my backstory was about finding the blade of a special sword. The sword was broken and I just had the hilt, so when i cast Shadow Blade the shadowy thingy come from the hilt, the hilt is worth 1 gold piece so i can use the cantrips^^
cheesy? a bit but I think its fine :)
4K is the way to go! Excellent build too!
POV: You’re haven’t watched a vid in some months and came back with a new office and better graphics and you’re glad that you still supported the channel
I’ve been waiting all morning for this😂
I'm glad we've come back to revisit the Bladesinger, because of the noted issues the old builds have, and also because bladesingers are great. The Absorb Elements interaction is cute and fun but I don't think the marginal increase in action economy can ever make a spell slot worth 1d6 damage/slot level, especially since sometimes you would be making an attack of opportunity anyway, plus the value of threatening to cast Counterspell.
This build is absolutely perfect for a Rakdos Cultist in a Ravnica game! It’s got flashy performance, fire, shadows, and plenty of pain to both ourselves and others! Instead of doing damage to yourself to purify, you do it for the sheer love of chaos, spectacle, and violence! I’d probably try to make room for a better CHA score, though.
Started playing my first bladesinger recently.
Gotta be honest I'm mainly sticking with control spells and having melee attacks as a fallback but I still love these builds, exploring what's technically possible, even if it's not always the best option
Old opening music is back! THIS IS GOING TO BE EPIC!
I Love this build so much
28:17 Yes, you will also need to make concentration checks if you're concentrating on a spell every time, which bladesinging will help with. Resilient constitution can make your minimum concentration check to be over 10 so should be no worries after that.
I don't think I'd ever upcast Absorb Elements. Absorb at level 1. Mirror image or blur at level 2 slot. 3rd level to go crazy with AOE spells. Fun build, Colby!
For shadowblade bladetrips my DM & i agreed value is subjective and that it was likely *someone* could be convinced that my glowing lightsabre is worth at least 1 sp :3
Been waiting for this. All my builds lately feature some use of Green Flame / Absorb elements “overclocking” with temp hitpoints , shapeshifting or regen to offset it. My favorite is the truly absurd scribes wizard dhampir combo. 🧛♂️
What's absurd about it?
@@ArcanoSilverwind How many spells you can convert to piercing damage via Scribes levels and bake into the bite attack, basically - and then the ludicrous bonuses to your skill checks / attack rolls that result on the following round. It's still only proficiency bonus times per long rest, but man, those moments make you feel like a bloodsucking god. XD
Warning: some DMs would find a way to disqualify it. But IMO d4 videos are best consumed by folks who play at a lenient and / or combo friendly table. Scribes is head & shoulders above other classes in terms of wording on spells that are arguably in the player's favor. (relative to a bunch of class powers, where the bonus dice are technically "extra" / not part of the attack and thus RAW disqualified for the bite.)
I think back in this comment I was talking about using Green Flame, then Absorb Elements to convert the resistance & later outgoing damage to piercing - which is definitely DM's discretion. It depends on which mentions of a "damage type" your table will allow you to apply the Scribes conversion powers to. Mine was shocked & pleased by the combo and wanted to see how far it could go. By a stricter reading, it gets progressively more niche.
But FWIW I did just play this combo up to 13th level with a DM who is a professional systems designer - and the whole green flame cantrip / absorb elements thing was not even close to the most interesting thing that the build enabled.
TBH it's only a tangentially relevant comment on this build, since Colby was leaning into the Bladesinger / cantrip version of Extra Attack. I was just excited.
Nice build. It's nice that you added a caveat that not every round is going to be a nova round, and alternatives. Also, the lighting and quality was really good. Definitely better than the spotlight look from last video. xD
Admittedly, did not see the levels of battle master coming.
I'm having great success with a similar build, my go to nova is bladesong -> greater invisibility -> action surge -> steel wind strike. With elven accuracy this gets pretty nuts so long as you have targets. Highly recommend greater invisibility on elven accuracy bladesingers.
Been waiting for Bladesinger 3.0 video to drop for a while, love the diversity and might have to give this one a go
I LOVE Tensors Transformation. I don't care if a little suboptimal vs other options like Animate Object. It is awesome and powerful. Fits this build and theme 100%
Fun spell combos for Bladesinger... 1) Ashardalon's Stride and Steel Wind Strike. 2) Contingency: Greater Invisibility and Steel Wind Strike.
Good to see the rock intro make a return for a returning old class concept. ;)
Unique strategy, it earned my like
Colby and Science. All about could'a, not about should'a. Seriously, though, fun build! Love using Absorb Elements offensively. You're like the Jackie Chan of theory crafters for 5e.
Going to Garycon this weekend and excited to try something like this out
Wonderful intro! Wizards OP as usual.
I had an absolute monster Eladrin swords bard, hexblade, paladin that, with the concession of my DM, could use blade flourishes on blade cantrips. I could summer fey step in, targeting myself to take the fire damage to proc AA, then booming blade, blade flourish, smite, and Absorb Elements. It was glorious.
Thanks for the video Colby! I’m even more convinced that taking 3 fighter levels is worth it on my Bladesinger lol.
Worth noting that acid splash works same as gfb, if you weren’t going bladesinger then evocation works great, your cantrip deals half damage on successful save, dex saves aren’t usually too hard to succeed just would minimize the damage you take while doing extra damage. Or just rogue for evasion, which could make for an extremely awesome build, defensive and offensive and utility. I may honestly do this with my artificer, decent damage bump and rogue is always fun to dip into
I absolutely love these build videos. This channel has quickly become one of my favorite corners of the internet.
A pedantic detail worth considering: does a weapon attack made as part of a cantrip count for two weapon fighting? It could be interpreted that when using shadow blade and extra attack, you have not attacked with your shortsword. You've cast a cantrip with your shortsword as a material component and attacked with your shadow blade, meaning you could only attack with your shortsword as a bonus action per two-weapon fighting. At my table, I'd accept your interpretation, but it could be worth discussing with the DM before using this particular tactic.
This reminds me of the 3.5 class Duskblade. It had a spell called Blade of Blood that was cast when making a Melee attack, did 5 damage to the caster and added some d6s to the damage dealt.
My dudes letting the hair grow. I want a Colby mullet by October.
lol I keep asking my wife if I can cut my hair. Her response: "not yet." I have no idea what the end game is...