Honestly paying 1-2 euros for it, so like 25-50czk would be totally fair and would setback the repair costs and even make some profit for the city hall.
@@mattjax16 I doubt it is even that. We currently have very conservative city government with the leading party (ODS) being linked to corruption scandlas in the past. I think they just want as little oversight to what is happening in city hall as possible.
@@Skawagon Butbutbut... if the city hall were teeming with crowds of tourists from dawn till dusk, just imagine how much easier it would be to organize all kinds of shady meetings, without even having to leave your office. Your questionable guests would just mingle with the tourists, and no-one would be the wiser! No more meeting Pro-Russian lobbyists in corner pubs in the rain, or late evening dinners at a Vyšehrad restaurant during the lockup. That's what I call a big-brain play, worthy of big-brained corrupt politicians, just like Prague City Council has... /jk
That elevator in the City Hall is just meters from offices of some deputies and the design of corridors does not allow to separate comfortably tourist flow and office flow. It would need to disable depart in several floors or something more problematic. (...) Nevertheless, recent changes in security policy just put the most of the building including elevator to the secured area, so no more tourists in the lift ever.
I can imagine it wasn't about single tourists going the loop but probably groups of people cramming in one stall together. That could break it. Some people have no sense (as seen by the tourist interaction lmao) and no respect.
@@PeeJay_2005 americans arent actually that rude on vacations anymore, its mostly Chinese people now from what i hear. americans are actually some of the best according to sources.
Someone should build a 3 story Paternoster elevator in an open area. Just the elevator by itself in a glass box that goes nowhere. Then charge tourists 10 euro a ride. You would be rich.
I'm working in a (public) building with a pater noster and it's ALWAYS broken. It's now prohibited too to people not working there to use it. The reason is not the amount of people riding it, but people who have never used it before using it and using it wrong. Getting their foot stuck, trying to slow it down, going on it with a huge suitcase - and yes, these are all things that actually happened and caused damage and required the pater noster to be repaired. That costs money and we can't use the elevator anymore.
Being from Italy, I can confirm Janek is too indulgent. Many tourists act dumb and break shit all the time because they don't read signs or just want to be the center of attention - not implying its just them, there are many among the locals too.
@@dingodash4096 I can't imagine how big problem with overtourism you have in Venice, but in Prague, it's also pretty bad I would say. I am originally from Prague, but I don't live there anymore, but when I visit Prague, it's even more visible for me than before, nobody speaks Czech there, in center you always see those drinking parties of British/German/Danish people who are constantly screaming and you have bad feeling from them, like they can be aggressive when you just badly look at them. And ofcourse now, you don't know if someone is a russian tourist or ukrainian refugee, it's everything very confusing and it causes misunderstandings. About damaging things - just those stupid lovelocks are enough, everyone adds some 100g lock and at the end, it will break reailing on the bridge, so yes, overtourism really destroys cities when everyone acts like a sheep.
A small fee is reasonable. One could even install one within a block of the same place, allowing it to be a new tourist site, while allowing business to take place at the other. The idea of weekends or evenings also makes sense. One should ensure that the elevator can serve it's primary purpose to those who work in that building, but also those going there for official business. If one allowed it to be open during the workday, I would expect them to operate below full capacity and that those who work there could have immediate access. But if someone who lived in the area had reason to meet with someone there, they should also have a way to avoid any line or fee.
I'm not sure these elevators are still being made. But yes, great point. Install one going up to one of those lookout towers and charge an extra fee to use the elevator. You won't necessarily get *more* tourists to that location, so it won't cause extra congestion; but you'll get a greater spend per tourist.
yes. But young people doesnt use google for searching for informations. For more than half of them primary information source is tik tok. Thats why they were so confused when Janek told them to search it up. This is actually very huge problem outside of context of this video but hey... this is the world we live in :)
Seven years ago my Family travelled on a summer trip to London, Dubrovnik, Paris and Prague from Toronto Canada. While the “kids” (now 18 and 24) remember Buckingham palace, Dubrovnik’s city walls , the Eiffel tower and the Louvre, one of the strongest memories from that trip is the paternoster elevator in Prague!
There are paternosters in most countries in Europe. There is even one in London, although it seems to be out of service a lot of the time. I find it interesting how most of these paternosters go unnoticed, yet just one, out of the many, in Prague has become a location for tourists to visit.
I needed 2 researches which took me 20 seconds to find an article in my language (french) to find most of the other locatons... At least, with those kind of lazy tourists, those elevators won't become problematic locations ..
Can confirm, just did the same (in the same language). And I purposely searched like I knew almost nothing about it "elevators that never stops Prague location" and I had multiple addresses.
I live here, I can think of 2 (maybe a 3rd, I can't remember), but it's been a bit of time since I was there. Can't say it's all that amazing, certainly I wouldn't go see something like this if I were visiting another city
I'm glad the city took your advice. This does seem like the best balance between sharing the things that make your city unique, while also paying the costs that visitors impose.
4:02 that second news article in the video specifically names *"incidents with emergency stops"* whilst the other two articles say *"do not respect instructions and destroy equipment",* so i think the main reason was completely missed in this video...i.e. i can totally see people hitting the emergency stop on purpose for fun or content, as well as putting objects on the edge the elevator stalls to see them get crushed (and specially in that "loop" thing where you even see that exposed pulley)
Wow. As someone old enough that I had to do research in libraries on microfiche and encyclopedias, I can’t believe people don’t know how to search the internet. Not everything needs to be handed to you on a silver platter.
@@penguinsushi8442 well, he’s an honest guide… I live and work in touristy parts of Prague and totally understand his frustration - people have €1000 phones and can’t use basic functions like maps, translator and google search. My highlight is a guy asking for directions to the castle, using a PHOTO of a classic PAPER MAP in the phone’s gallery to navigate. Not to mention the castle was clearly visible from the point where we were standing…
Honestly, I understand the sentiment of just wanting to be told instead of trying to google shit these days. Google has been so thoroughly enshittified that it no longer functions as a usable search engine and just spits out 10 trillion metric tons of useless crap without a single usable result to be found
My wife and I celebrated NY 2020 in Prague. And thanks to HG I made her a little surprise, showing this elevator. We went at around 5PM and city hall was pretty empty, so we enjoyed a ride without tones of other tourists. We even used city hall WC lol. Thanks HG for happy memories!
It took me 5 seconds to find an article with a list of 8 paternosters with some made up Czech. Should I mention that I don't use Tiktok? I'd happily take those 5 € now.
Lol you want a cookie? Imagine he told you instead, was informative in the video, and held a conversation? Not like an awkward buffoon trying to gatekeep the "easily accessible info?" Guy is insufferable.
Best solution would be to have an online ticket system, where it’s open on the weekends but there’s a limited amount of tickets available & you have to buy yours online. This opens it up to the tourists who are savvy enough to plan ahead and prevents overuse/crowding.
trying to appeal a few tourist‘s conscience isn‘t a very efficient way to stop people going where they want to go. this is such a german thing. i know what i’m speaking…
This guy is ever closer to becoming a grandparent. In my day we didn’t have those tikki tokkies you children love. We had to go on Ask Jeeves to look for information and ICQ to chat to our friends
I went to Charles Bridge yesterday just to see how touristy it actually is - It was so crowded I couldn't breathe. The most mindblowing thing is that it was literally just like any other bridge.
Not really, it's clearly pedestrianised and historic. Lots of places in the world don't have pedestrianised bridges, and the ones that do generally build those new because the idea of stopping car traffic going across a useful bridge is regarded as absurd.
Kinda weird to say you worry about the new generation when they're straight up asking you in person where to find the other elevators are and your advice is to use their phones. Seems kinda counterintuitive
This is why I hate travel influencers, tiktokers , instagrammers as they are a plague destroying one destination after another. They have no feeling for local people, only for their clicks and likes. This is why I became an "Outfluencer", warning people because of the danger of travelling and destinations.
@@SatoshiAR Yes, that is the reason why I do not upload videos. I am an outfluencer, my aim is to protect destinations from people with "bucket lists" and keep them for the people who are really interested. Yes, and I am sometimes happy that The Islamic Republic of Iran has such bad reputation in western media. It keeps the "bucket list people" away.
@@zugly1999There was sa time where we where all better at computers because if we wanted to use it we had no choice....then things became much more accessible and we started regressing.
I mean its easy to see people acting that way but I choose to find the people that use their brains. Surprisingly there are quite a few out there, just need to not be constantly on the watch for stupidity
I don't wanna be that guy, because I really enjoyed this video and the topic, but, I do think you were a little too rude to those tourists. When I'm touring, I ask LOCALS before googling something. Locals are usually more up to date with stuff. And I prefer face to face interactions. Ya know, OFF MY PHONE just as you want! Those guys understood you were a local, and simply tried to ask you a few questions that, frankly, would've been faster than googling had you just answered them. Look, I live in California. I deal with tourists a lot. But I don't just tell someone to Google it when they ask for help. I just tell them what I can and they leave..
Especially when you literally run a youtube called honest guide. It really turns me off wanting to get any info from them when they treat tourists so badly...
Me too! When I have a choice I ask people on purpose because I prefer actual interactions, even if there is a chance it'll annoy someone. I was a bit surprised by that part too. I guess they were trying to protect the other elevators, but/so...I used to live near one of them. It was at Vodickova 681 in the hall of the Urad mestske casti Praha 1. ;)
This is off topic from the video. I donated a couple of years ago to the Rohanský ostrov bell project to represent all the bells taken by the Nazis during WW2. 0:03 In July I will be in Prague. Where is the location of the bell? I would like to see it.
We keep this old elevator around for tourists to come see. Too many tourists came to see it, now it's closed. We need to do more to improve the dropping levels of tourism. All statements made by the same person.
8:46 yeah cause the older generations totally google everything and do their research on stuff. Don't make it a generational thing. Some people are just simply like that.
Actual old generations used to help tourists. He's so far up his ass that he thinks they are the problem and he's a saint for telling them to Google it instead of helping
Yeah... especially since Janek is someone who makes a living from social media I find it a bit cringey that his best take is the usual "hah, zoomers are clueless. tiktok bad." I normally love Janek but the interaction with the tourists was a weird and uncomfortable. 😬
@@ahtcx I'm a zoomer and I know how to Google something when I can't figure out something so there is no excuse for low quality tourists to not do the same
@@trekswithnick I have no doubt they know how to search stuff like the vast majority of people. They were presented with a situation where a local came up to them and volunteered information. It's perfectly reasonable for them to expect Janek would volunteer more information when requested, and really weird and awkward for him to do the whole "well why don't you Google it" dance considering he initiated the interaction. Also; "low quality tourists", um... ok?
I'm just back from Prague on a visit. Beautiful city. Beautiful history. Truly wonderful, welcoming and courteous people. I was there for 3 days and barely scratched the surface of the joys of that city. I love the Czech Republic and I love Prague. Thank you for having me in your city and country
I don't get the point of not telling those lads that they could go ten mins away to find the other elevators. Certainly no reason to be a dick about it.
8:47 you kind of just gaslighted those kids when you simply could’ve just pulled them or pointed them in the direction of it you’ve done that to multiple people. What’s the point of answering a question with a question when dealing with tourists it almost seems like you don’t like them.
If he said it on the video, it would recreate the issue for the other 25 elevators. Surprised you got this far in the video and missed that whole point
@ I get what you’re saying, but what I’m talking about he’s done in other videos like asking some random person on the street a question and then saying I don’t know you’ll have to watch this video is kind of messed up. it’s not that important. I just thought it was kind of rude and worth mentioning.
I definitely think having tourists only able to use the elevator on weekends sounds like an amazing idea! Especially if people pay something like 1€ for a ride! It would add up to help cover any maintenance needed and maybe even further city projects!
To be honest I think your interaction with that group of tourists was just plain rude. You said you worry about the new generation being addicted to their phone and tiktok, but they were off their phones speaking to an actual human from the area, asking questions, and they got told to get ON their phones and look for it. If you're worried about people being on their phones too much, the have actual conversations with them when they try to, and don't encourage them to get back on their phones. And regardless of all of that, just don't be a condescending prick to people who are just trying to have a good time in your country
if you ask me, the bigger issue is that the group was not willing to conduct their own research and do a simple google search, instead hoped some random dude that happens to know it would tell them. He specifically mentioned that people only know of it from instagram, facebook and horribly enough TikTok, they didnt even attempt to search for anything else, they didnt attempt to ask if there are other options, they didnt attempt to specifically ask for help, all they did was look at this guy who talked about the famous paternoster elevator and hoped he would just tell them "yeah there are 20 other elevators throughout the city here here here and here", instead he explicitly told them "its a simple google search away, you can find it, but not on tiktok or instagram" and the kids immediately brushed it off.
@@zugly1999Yeah but they could get that information quicker by asking a local and they may even get directions from them. He could have just told them where it was without being rude.
@@zugly1999 How do you know that group wasn't wandering around and then that day they decided to look at the stairs and that was the first time and they needed help? We can playing guessing games all day. Just be nice to people, especially ones appearing in your videos that you're profiting from.
I lived and worked in Prague for a year. I learned about the paternoster from this channel but never actively looked for it. I did come across one when I had to go for a physical exam at the YMCA.
"if you see kids running around with their phones looking for something tell them turn off tiktok" after these kids asked him about it, and he told them to go on their phone and google it my guy, it is not the kids that are the problem
it's a miracle it was still running at all. parts for them essentially have to be manufactured to order, using specialized technicians who are probably booked out months in advance. come to Stuttgart town hall, we have 3.
As an American I'm wondering can the general Prague public not use the building for city business? This effectively shuts the citizens off from their govt doesn't it? What exactly is done in the building business wise?
in a different building in the center, there's one for the Prague 1 district office (we got our marriage license there). All buildings of couse have stairs, but for handicapped people (or ones with strollers) it's a challenge.
I believe that in this building there are only personal offices and the only use for the public would be a meeting on appointment. There is one place in the building used for handing in certain documents, that is accessible. Edit: There are many more government/city building around prague used for interacting with the public.
Found out about it through your videos back in 2016/17 and I'm so glad I had the chance to experience it before the tourist mayhem. And this is a big thank you for sharing with us the beauty of your city, and all the awesome, quieter spots. Your recommendations had a massive impact on what we visited and our experience with the city!
I'm one of the people. I saw your videos and rode the elevator in around 2018. I would support a small fee to ride it. It's super cool and worth showing off.
If some uppity local told me to not visit a specific bridge or the local government might “shut it down” I would not be thanking them for their unsolicited advice.
About a month ago I was in Brno and wanted to show a friend the paternoster elevator at the train station post office (that I knew about from your videos), unfortunately the post office was moved and the building looks almost abandoned from the outside. I really hope the building will be fixed up in the future and the elevator made accessible to people again.
The Main Post Office building in Brno was sold to a private investor and the future is unclear. There are two more paternoster lifts in Brno: magistrate building on Malinovského náměstí, and FME VUT on Technická.
I stumbled upon your channel couple of moths before my first trip to Prague in 2019 and I've been following you ever since. Your content is great and I don't think you're responsible for any "damage" to the city. I hope that you continue making content and I can't wait to go back to Prague with my family.
As if he doesn't literally make money of tourist youtube/tiktok etc. Then judges people and is a smug asshole when he weirdly draws in their attention (he talked to THEM first) but then refuses to just answer the simple question and make fun of them for using tiktok for travel info. WHEN HE LITERALLY MAKES VIDEOS FOR TOURISTS. I unsubscribed honestly. I don't want to get tourist information from someone who hates the people they purport to be helping.
Oh wow i havent seen your guys' channel in a few years! Im nearing 18 and i watched you guys in secondary i think (?) Glad to see yall are still doing content❤
HonestGuide taking a massive L here. Sorry but this is your fault as an "influencer". What do you expect. The same issue with the Lawson/Mt Fuji view in Japan. Sorry but, just because some people found it via TikTok, doesn't mean you're any different if we find it via YOUR RUclips.
Before my trip to Prag, surfing through internet for advice and guidance, found your account Honest Gide on RUclips and your videos. Definitely wouldn't know about elevator if it wasn't for your help. Great experience, now I have many videos and pictures from that place. Thank you very much. Paternoster❤❤
Intersting upload, revealing local secrets etc is always going to be difficult. Please keep making videos as I've always loved this channel, and what you have set out to achieve
Sounds like someone in Czechia needs to make an elevator museum to show off elevators like this. They could have multiple quirky elevators from around the world not just the paternoster.
It does feel like you were too mean to the young men. Their English wasn't even that good and you put them on the spot and made them look stupid. I'm about your age and I get the whole "Tiktok will rot your brain" thing, but that's no excuse to reduce these guys to a stereotype. Make fun of scammers, not kids.
Exactly! I ve been following the channel for quite some time and I was taken aback by his attitude towards those kids. A little more kindness would have helped.
Actually, no. They are more than capable of figuring it out on their own. Had they looked it up and didn't know how to get to the address, I think he would have been more than willing to help them out. But they made zero effort and wanted him to give them the answer, when they can at least try to figure it out themselves and then ask for help if they get stuck.
I've started buying vinyl records. I love when they have the 'Made in Czech Republic' sticker on the back. They make a high quality product for the artists.
it took me 5 seconds of googling to find one easily accessible in the YMCA in Prague, and many other examples in other countries! The stupidity of tourists is baffling nowadays.
Never dared to do the loop because I hadn't seen a video it was doable at the time... BUT Feeling good for having encounter my first paternoster on my own, without the help of Google or TikTok :D and not in city hall ^^ Thanks for that !
When I went there in 2019 there was no one there, we were there maybe 10mins admiring the elevator alone. Charge a small fee makes sense but another option is for another location to do this - if there is a paternoster with a cafes/shops in the same building they can attract more business to the building.
last time i was in prague walking around I just kept thinking how all the tourists would annoy the locals. Then I laughed to myself as I was technically a tourist walking around. That the fun of the thing, most of us at some point are tourists being annoying to the locals and at others, locals being annoyed by tourists 🤣
I use to hate tourists, until the day they stopped coming to my city, I always say be careful what you wish for…a city that depends on mass tourism, that loses it will suddenly drown
@@procopischristofi9158 He was trying to get them to be self-sufficient, and even Janek himself might not have known the exact location of all other elevators like that in the city. That being said, I agree he probably should have given them at least a few key words (in Czech, if necessary), like "paternoster".
I like you guys, but jeez. You were so unnecessarily mean and condescending to those tourist. I felt so bad form them, they just wanted to experience something and instead of honest non judgmental answers they got snide remarks for no reason. Like what did they do to you to deserve this😭.
They do if you they can't spend 10 seconds looking something up. You people expect everyone to tutor you through the most basic of things. Find some self worth and grit and do some work for real.
@@deadlock_problem I don't have a problem with them not giving them giving them the information. I just don't like how meanly it was done. I just think it was unnecessary, that's all.
@@deadlock_problem Man, this channel is called HONEST GUIDE. They asked HONEST GUIDE for directions. What is your problem. Stop watching this channel, thats too easy. You can find all the info in google and books. Jesus F Christ.
He literally would he started from nothing, he would still have one but it will be smaller and maybe it would be more of a hobby. Nothing wrong with that either.
I'm glad I got to experience riding it two years ago (thanks to your channel). I would gladly pay to ride it for its maintenance, we pay for everything, why not for this one
The way he spoke to those kids was rude and uncalled for. They were so well-mannered even while he was being a dick. Good kids. I would not have been so understanding.
Honestly paying 1-2 euros for it, so like 25-50czk would be totally fair and would setback the repair costs and even make some profit for the city hall.
I do t think it’s the cost of repairs that is the problem I think it’s the over crowding even if they don’t say it
@@mattjax16 I doubt it is even that. We currently have very conservative city government with the leading party (ODS) being linked to corruption scandlas in the past. I think they just want as little oversight to what is happening in city hall as possible.
@@Skawagon Butbutbut... if the city hall were teeming with crowds of tourists from dawn till dusk, just imagine how much easier it would be to organize all kinds of shady meetings, without even having to leave your office. Your questionable guests would just mingle with the tourists, and no-one would be the wiser! No more meeting Pro-Russian lobbyists in corner pubs in the rain, or late evening dinners at a Vyšehrad restaurant during the lockup.
That's what I call a big-brain play, worthy of big-brained corrupt politicians, just like Prague City Council has... /jk
That elevator in the City Hall is just meters from offices of some deputies and the design of corridors does not allow to separate comfortably tourist flow and office flow. It would need to disable depart in several floors or something more problematic.
(...)
Nevertheless, recent changes in security policy just put the most of the building including elevator to the secured area, so no more tourists in the lift ever.
Make it 20 euros so it won't be too crowded. Budget-conscious tourists can go to the 25 other elevators FOR FREE
I can imagine it wasn't about single tourists going the loop but probably groups of people cramming in one stall together. That could break it. Some people have no sense (as seen by the tourist interaction lmao) and no respect.
We all know a certain demographic of tourists that gives their country a bad name
@@playmakersmusic who?
@@playmakersmusic This could literally be so many countries
@@playmakersmusic as an american, probably americans
@@PeeJay_2005 americans arent actually that rude on vacations anymore, its mostly Chinese people now from what i hear. americans are actually some of the best according to sources.
Someone should build a 3 story Paternoster elevator in an open area. Just the elevator by itself in a glass box that goes nowhere. Then charge tourists 10 euro a ride. You would be rich.
From me you get only a face palm. 10 €? In Greece it's really priceless.
@@irondasgr Then you don't know the amount of money tourists will pay for random things like this lol
@@irondasgrBut we are not a good example. 10 euro for Germans for example is not much.
@@fa18superhornet Yeah thats nearly what we pay for a kebab nowadays. A döner kebab costs like 7-8 euros now
@@Chrome2105 And in Greece a gyros is 5 Euros minimum... And the average wage is like 900 per month.
I'm working in a (public) building with a pater noster and it's ALWAYS broken. It's now prohibited too to people not working there to use it.
The reason is not the amount of people riding it, but people who have never used it before using it and using it wrong. Getting their foot stuck, trying to slow it down, going on it with a huge suitcase - and yes, these are all things that actually happened and caused damage and required the pater noster to be repaired. That costs money and we can't use the elevator anymore.
When someone says "people can't be that stupid" I always reply "you can't even imagine how stupid people are" 😀
this is exactly what i thought when Janek started disputing "tourists broke it"
Being from Italy, I can confirm Janek is too indulgent. Many tourists act dumb and break shit all the time because they don't read signs or just want to be the center of attention - not implying its just them, there are many among the locals too.
@@dingodash4096 I can't imagine how big problem with overtourism you have in Venice, but in Prague, it's also pretty bad I would say. I am originally from Prague, but I don't live there anymore, but when I visit Prague, it's even more visible for me than before, nobody speaks Czech there, in center you always see those drinking parties of British/German/Danish people who are constantly screaming and you have bad feeling from them, like they can be aggressive when you just badly look at them.
And ofcourse now, you don't know if someone is a russian tourist or ukrainian refugee, it's everything very confusing and it causes misunderstandings.
About damaging things - just those stupid lovelocks are enough, everyone adds some 100g lock and at the end, it will break reailing on the bridge, so yes, overtourism really destroys cities when everyone acts like a sheep.
@@dingodash4096 I remember when a guy drove the spanish historic stairs in a car. Some people are dumb, it cant be helped.
A small fee is reasonable. One could even install one within a block of the same place, allowing it to be a new tourist site, while allowing business to take place at the other. The idea of weekends or evenings also makes sense. One should ensure that the elevator can serve it's primary purpose to those who work in that building, but also those going there for official business. If one allowed it to be open during the workday, I would expect them to operate below full capacity and that those who work there could have immediate access. But if someone who lived in the area had reason to meet with someone there, they should also have a way to avoid any line or fee.
I'm not sure these elevators are still being made. But yes, great point. Install one going up to one of those lookout towers and charge an extra fee to use the elevator. You won't necessarily get *more* tourists to that location, so it won't cause extra congestion; but you'll get a greater spend per tourist.
in Prague a "small fee" is 250KC
From what I heard they complained tourists roam the halls and go into offices, which I agree must be irritating, and the price will be €10.
How many government officials does it take to turn on an elevator that runs automatically? The answer is not on TikTok.
1 repair person to turn off the power
@@Thecaliforniaelevatorchannel
And 435 to argue about the best way to turn it back on
@@Juji-Bo agreed.
5:05 I can hear the weariness of the engineer on the phone. Bless him and the multiple times he hears these kinds of things in the media.
It took me 30 seconds to Google the other elevators.
yes. But young people doesnt use google for searching for informations. For more than half of them primary information source is tik tok. Thats why they were so confused when Janek told them to search it up. This is actually very huge problem outside of context of this video but hey... this is the world we live in :)
And how many such elevators are there in total in the Czech Republic?
@@tryexceptions1025 There are 68 of these lifts in Czech Republic
@@Mixiravav-MilkyIce I can name 3 just in my city.
@@edwardlayer4259 what are their names?
Seven years ago my Family travelled on a summer trip to London, Dubrovnik, Paris and Prague from Toronto Canada. While the “kids” (now 18 and 24) remember Buckingham palace, Dubrovnik’s city walls , the Eiffel tower and the Louvre, one of the strongest memories from that trip is the paternoster elevator in Prague!
There are paternosters in most countries in Europe. There is even one in London, although it seems to be out of service a lot of the time. I find it interesting how most of these paternosters go unnoticed, yet just one, out of the many, in Prague has become a location for tourists to visit.
@@benolifts Yes, they are really not a big deal imo. My uni library had one, but some people seem to lose their shit when they see it.
Cool places
I needed 2 researches which took me 20 seconds to find an article in my language (french) to find most of the other locatons... At least, with those kind of lazy tourists, those elevators won't become problematic locations ..
Can confirm, just did the same (in the same language). And I purposely searched like I knew almost nothing about it "elevators that never stops Prague location" and I had multiple addresses.
I went to Prague a month ago and tried every address I could find and none of them were currently working …
I live here, I can think of 2 (maybe a 3rd, I can't remember), but it's been a bit of time since I was there. Can't say it's all that amazing, certainly I wouldn't go see something like this if I were visiting another city
@@JonZiegler6Also live in Prague, and I wonder about the same thing 😂 whats that special about an elevator lol
Tourist are stupid, i would go watch an elevator like this only if someone was caught in between 😅 (i'm romanian)
New challenge: ride all 20 elevators in one day
That has to be a RUclips video someday
Or.. dont..
I'm glad the city took your advice. This does seem like the best balance between sharing the things that make your city unique, while also paying the costs that visitors impose.
4:02 that second news article in the video specifically names *"incidents with emergency stops"* whilst the other two articles say *"do not respect instructions and destroy equipment",* so i think the main reason was completely missed in this video...i.e. i can totally see people hitting the emergency stop on purpose for fun or content, as well as putting objects on the edge the elevator stalls to see them get crushed (and specially in that "loop" thing where you even see that exposed pulley)
Wow. As someone old enough that I had to do research in libraries on microfiche and encyclopedias, I can’t believe people don’t know how to search the internet. Not everything needs to be handed to you on a silver platter.
People are upset about this issue too. Like honest to god
i teach at a high school here in prague, and it's shocking how many students, who are glued to their phones, can't do basic google searches...
It is surprising and depressing, however, he could have handled those foreign tourists (who hardly understood english) better and less condescending .
@@penguinsushi8442 well, he’s an honest guide… I live and work in touristy parts of Prague and totally understand his frustration - people have €1000 phones and can’t use basic functions like maps, translator and google search. My highlight is a guy asking for directions to the castle, using a PHOTO of a classic PAPER MAP in the phone’s gallery to navigate. Not to mention the castle was clearly visible from the point where we were standing…
It is crazy. I actually thought we were out of the age where we had to explain what a web browser is.
For some people, the internet is just apps. 😵💫
Honestly, I understand the sentiment of just wanting to be told instead of trying to google shit these days. Google has been so thoroughly enshittified that it no longer functions as a usable search engine and just spits out 10 trillion metric tons of useless crap without a single usable result to be found
Just go to Ostrava town hall where the paternoster is working perfectly fine and it's totally tourist-free.
or Zlín
as far as i know there is a reason no tourisits go to Ostrava
:)
said with love for the Moravians!
@@ericcarlson3746 fair enough, Beskids are worth seeing though.
Osteava, that guy from demons souls
Ostrava, that guy from demons souls
My wife and I celebrated NY 2020 in Prague. And thanks to HG I made her a little surprise, showing this elevator. We went at around 5PM and city hall was pretty empty, so we enjoyed a ride without tones of other tourists. We even used city hall WC lol.
Thanks HG for happy memories!
According to this guy you're the problem 🤣
8:30 that dioporco hits so hard🇮🇹🍕🍝
As an Italian living in Prague, I appreciated a lot.
Come sentirsi a casa con un semplice trucco:
Non mi rende molto tranquillo sapere che quei ragazzi hanno serie difficoltà a cercare qualcosa sul loro smartphone al di fuori dell'app di Tiktok...
poesia
Come farsi riconoscere
It took me 5 seconds to find an article with a list of 8 paternosters with some made up Czech. Should I mention that I don't use Tiktok? I'd happily take those 5 € now.
I found about 15-20 of them in seconds, using English
Lol you want a cookie? Imagine he told you instead, was informative in the video, and held a conversation? Not like an awkward buffoon trying to gatekeep the "easily accessible info?" Guy is insufferable.
Best solution would be to have an online ticket system, where it’s open on the weekends but there’s a limited amount of tickets available & you have to buy yours online.
This opens it up to the tourists who are savvy enough to plan ahead and prevents overuse/crowding.
trying to appeal a few tourist‘s conscience isn‘t a very efficient way to stop people going where they want to go. this is such a german thing. i know what i’m speaking…
This guy is ever closer to becoming a grandparent. In my day we didn’t have those tikki tokkies you children love. We had to go on Ask Jeeves to look for information and ICQ to chat to our friends
ICQ lmao...wow, bringing back the past....Gen Z: huh? lol
He just pointed out that TikTok is not a search engine.
in my day tiktcok was a bad song by a drugged out drunk girl who appears unwashed lol
I went to Charles Bridge yesterday just to see how touristy it actually is - It was so crowded I couldn't breathe. The most mindblowing thing is that it was literally just like any other bridge.
Not really, it's clearly pedestrianised and historic. Lots of places in the world don't have pedestrianised bridges, and the ones that do generally build those new because the idea of stopping car traffic going across a useful bridge is regarded as absurd.
The amount of self reflection in this video is very small 😂. Jeeeesh.
"Don't go to the Charles Bridge", lmao! Classic!!!
I think Prague should build a Paternoster rigth next to the Astronomical Clock. That would be a tourist gem!
And have it large enough for more than one person and have doors that open and close so they can’t like jump out or do anything stupid.
Kinda weird to say you worry about the new generation when they're straight up asking you in person where to find the other elevators are and your advice is to use their phones. Seems kinda counterintuitive
This is why I hate travel influencers, tiktokers , instagrammers as they are a plague destroying one destination after another. They have no feeling for local people, only for their clicks and likes.
This is why I became an "Outfluencer", warning people because of the danger of travelling and destinations.
They are like locusts really
He's part of the problem
and yet here you are, online and tapped in
Can you really call yourself an "outfluencer" if you only have 1 video that was uploaded 5 years ago.
@@SatoshiAR Yes, that is the reason why I do not upload videos. I am an outfluencer, my aim is to protect destinations from people with "bucket lists" and keep them for the people who are really interested.
Yes, and I am sometimes happy that The Islamic Republic of Iran has such bad reputation in western media. It keeps the "bucket list people" away.
8:33 that is literally the reaction of every Millennial when interacting with Gen Z
as a zoomer, i googled it and found it in less than a minute, it makes me sick to see zoomers be this internet illiterate
Only the cringe ones who have tiktok otherwise the rest are actually dam smart at searching anything
@@zugly1999There was sa time where we where all better at computers because if we wanted to use it we had no choice....then things became much more accessible and we started regressing.
I mean its easy to see people acting that way but I choose to find the people that use their brains. Surprisingly there are quite a few out there, just need to not be constantly on the watch for stupidity
@@zugly1999 It pretty much depends if they were exposed to TikTok. If they did, they are a goner
LOL Mass Tourism that you directly contributed to- you guys were the ones who told people about it.
this guy is amazing. he is a guide who hates tourist. never seen that before
@@Sahbaz83True
He doesn't hate tourists, he just dislikes low quality tourists @@Sahbaz83
"Why did the elevator we advertise get people going there?!?!"
I don't wanna be that guy, because I really enjoyed this video and the topic, but, I do think you were a little too rude to those tourists. When I'm touring, I ask LOCALS before googling something.
Locals are usually more up to date with stuff. And I prefer face to face interactions. Ya know, OFF MY PHONE just as you want! Those guys understood you were a local, and simply tried to ask you a few questions that, frankly, would've been faster than googling had you just answered them.
Look, I live in California. I deal with tourists a lot. But I don't just tell someone to Google it when they ask for help. I just tell them what I can and they leave..
Especially when you literally run a youtube called honest guide. It really turns me off wanting to get any info from them when they treat tourists so badly...
@@lemonpoppyseeds right? It surprised me
@@alvaro701 It's literally ageism. Not watching this old fart.
Me too! When I have a choice I ask people on purpose because I prefer actual interactions, even if there is a chance it'll annoy someone. I was a bit surprised by that part too. I guess they were trying to protect the other elevators, but/so...I used to live near one of them. It was at Vodickova 681 in the hall of the Urad mestske casti Praha 1. ;)
This is off topic from the video. I donated a couple of years ago to the Rohanský ostrov bell project to represent all the bells taken by the Nazis during WW2. 0:03 In July I will be in Prague. Where is the location of the bell? I would like to see it.
We keep this old elevator around for tourists to come see.
Too many tourists came to see it, now it's closed.
We need to do more to improve the dropping levels of tourism.
All statements made by the same person.
I told you this would happen. Calling people haters for them telling you you ruin places is fine and dandy.
Idk why are you surprised now
8:46 yeah cause the older generations totally google everything and do their research on stuff. Don't make it a generational thing. Some people are just simply like that.
Actual old generations used to help tourists. He's so far up his ass that he thinks they are the problem and he's a saint for telling them to Google it instead of helping
ugh, and I thought I was a condescending person, but Jannek does it a bit much sometime.
Yes, but I also don't blame him 😂
No he came across as too nice actually
Yeah... especially since Janek is someone who makes a living from social media I find it a bit cringey that his best take is the usual "hah, zoomers are clueless. tiktok bad." I normally love Janek but the interaction with the tourists was a weird and uncomfortable. 😬
@@ahtcx I'm a zoomer and I know how to Google something when I can't figure out something so there is no excuse for low quality tourists to not do the same
@@trekswithnick I have no doubt they know how to search stuff like the vast majority of people. They were presented with a situation where a local came up to them and volunteered information. It's perfectly reasonable for them to expect Janek would volunteer more information when requested, and really weird and awkward for him to do the whole "well why don't you Google it" dance considering he initiated the interaction. Also; "low quality tourists", um... ok?
I'm just back from Prague on a visit. Beautiful city. Beautiful history. Truly wonderful, welcoming and courteous people. I was there for 3 days and barely scratched the surface of the joys of that city. I love the Czech Republic and I love Prague. Thank you for having me in your city and country
I wouldn't ride it because elevators terrify me, but a paternoster is an iconic piece of history which should be preserved!
I don't get the point of not telling those lads that they could go ten mins away to find the other elevators.
Certainly no reason to be a dick about it.
"good luck, I don't think you're going to succeed, though"
Straight up called him stupid.
8:47 you kind of just gaslighted those kids when you simply could’ve just pulled them or pointed them in the direction of it you’ve done that to multiple people. What’s the point of answering a question with a question when dealing with tourists it almost seems like you don’t like them.
If he said it on the video, it would recreate the issue for the other 25 elevators. Surprised you got this far in the video and missed that whole point
@ I get what you’re saying, but what I’m talking about he’s done in other videos like asking some random person on the street a question and then saying I don’t know you’ll have to watch this video is kind of messed up. it’s not that important. I just thought it was kind of rude and worth mentioning.
In 2018 this guy saved me and my family from scams in prague. I had watched all the videos before we went and had a great time.
Got to visit it in december 2022, glad to visit it, but i completely understand, there was a literal queue.
I definitely think having tourists only able to use the elevator on weekends sounds like an amazing idea! Especially if people pay something like 1€ for a ride! It would add up to help cover any maintenance needed and maybe even further city projects!
To be honest I think your interaction with that group of tourists was just plain rude. You said you worry about the new generation being addicted to their phone and tiktok, but they were off their phones speaking to an actual human from the area, asking questions, and they got told to get ON their phones and look for it.
If you're worried about people being on their phones too much, the have actual conversations with them when they try to, and don't encourage them to get back on their phones.
And regardless of all of that, just don't be a condescending prick to people who are just trying to have a good time in your country
if you ask me, the bigger issue is that the group was not willing to conduct their own research and do a simple google search, instead hoped some random dude that happens to know it would tell them. He specifically mentioned that people only know of it from instagram, facebook and horribly enough TikTok, they didnt even attempt to search for anything else, they didnt attempt to ask if there are other options, they didnt attempt to specifically ask for help, all they did was look at this guy who talked about the famous paternoster elevator and hoped he would just tell them "yeah there are 20 other elevators throughout the city here here here and here", instead he explicitly told them "its a simple google search away, you can find it, but not on tiktok or instagram" and the kids immediately brushed it off.
I agree. It definitely seemed rude.
@@zugly1999Yeah but they could get that information quicker by asking a local and they may even get directions from them. He could have just told them where it was without being rude.
@@zugly1999 How do you know that group wasn't wandering around and then that day they decided to look at the stairs and that was the first time and they needed help? We can playing guessing games all day. Just be nice to people, especially ones appearing in your videos that you're profiting from.
Agreed. I unfollwed the channel after this. He's been rude before but in much, much smaller and more tolerable doses. This was so unnecessary.
I lived and worked in Prague for a year. I learned about the paternoster from this channel but never actively looked for it. I did come across one when I had to go for a physical exam at the YMCA.
"if you see kids running around with their phones looking for something tell them turn off tiktok" after these kids asked him about it, and he told them to go on their phone and google it
my guy, it is not the kids that are the problem
it's a miracle it was still running at all. parts for them essentially have to be manufactured to order, using specialized technicians who are probably booked out months in advance. come to Stuttgart town hall, we have 3.
As an American I'm wondering can the general Prague public not use the building for city business? This effectively shuts the citizens off from their govt doesn't it? What exactly is done in the building business wise?
in a different building in the center, there's one for the Prague 1 district office (we got our marriage license there). All buildings of couse have stairs, but for handicapped people (or ones with strollers) it's a challenge.
I believe that in this building there are only personal offices and the only use for the public would be a meeting on appointment. There is one place in the building used for handing in certain documents, that is accessible.
Edit: There are many more government/city building around prague used for interacting with the public.
I guess they have to demonstrate they need to use it, in order to have access
Nearby is another much larger building for citizen interaction. this building is reserved primarily for officials and mayor.
8:30 the Italian dude straight up said a very blasphemous curse word 😂
How honest it was to tell a tourist that the Charles bridge will get close if too many ppl will go there???
More honest than zoomer influencers on tiktok
Found out about it through your videos back in 2016/17 and I'm so glad I had the chance to experience it before the tourist mayhem.
And this is a big thank you for sharing with us the beauty of your city, and all the awesome, quieter spots. Your recommendations had a massive impact on what we visited and our experience with the city!
That line “ please don’t go that place too, you’ll ruined too” was kind out of place, can locals decide where tourist can or not go?
I'm one of the people. I saw your videos and rode the elevator in around 2018. I would support a small fee to ride it. It's super cool and worth showing off.
If some uppity local told me to not visit a specific bridge or the local government might “shut it down” I would not be thanking them for their unsolicited advice.
I'd probably make sure it's the very next thing I visit.
It's called a joke.
@@BatCaveOz I cant say it sounded to me like he said it as a joke.
@@BatCaveOzit's called being a dick
About a month ago I was in Brno and wanted to show a friend the paternoster elevator at the train station post office (that I knew about from your videos), unfortunately the post office was moved and the building looks almost abandoned from the outside. I really hope the building will be fixed up in the future and the elevator made accessible to people again.
The Main Post Office building in Brno was sold to a private investor and the future is unclear. There are two more paternoster lifts in Brno: magistrate building on Malinovského náměstí, and FME VUT on Technická.
There is also one in Danish Parlament where the politicians use it all time. I don't think its for public unless you are on a visited guided tour.
It looks like you have a few in hospitals that are open to the public
Same in Finland. The Parliament is probably the only place in the country that has one and there's definitely a fancy wibe to these because of that.
The fact you don’t see your own condescension is disappointing.
I stumbled upon your channel couple of moths before my first trip to Prague in 2019 and I've been following you ever since. Your content is great and I don't think you're responsible for any "damage" to the city. I hope that you continue making content and I can't wait to go back to Prague with my family.
didn't have to be so condescending to those guys outside man. "tiktok bad, tiktok people stupid" mentality really visible in that interaction
Head so far up his ass, he's part of the problem, they just asked like normal humans would
"tiktok bad, tiktok people stupid", but also "human interaction bad, asking locals bad" like ?? he just wants to be an asshole lol
As if he doesn't literally make money of tourist youtube/tiktok etc. Then judges people and is a smug asshole when he weirdly draws in their attention (he talked to THEM first) but then refuses to just answer the simple question and make fun of them for using tiktok for travel info. WHEN HE LITERALLY MAKES VIDEOS FOR TOURISTS.
I unsubscribed honestly. I don't want to get tourist information from someone who hates the people they purport to be helping.
I dont understand why people is ok with it
Love at 8:33 the classic italian blasphemy 🤣🤣🤣
Is this an admission of guilt?
I remember it was your favorite tip back before you were independent...
8:10 idk if it was just a language barrier thing but I refuse to believe there are people older than me like this 😭
Oh wow i havent seen your guys' channel in a few years! Im nearing 18 and i watched you guys in secondary i think (?) Glad to see yall are still doing content❤
HonestGuide taking a massive L here. Sorry but this is your fault as an "influencer". What do you expect. The same issue with the Lawson/Mt Fuji view in Japan.
Sorry but, just because some people found it via TikTok, doesn't mean you're any different if we find it via YOUR RUclips.
I'm going to prague next year so imma be binging your videos
I feel like you could have been less mean to those young fellas even though they indeed could have used google.
I googled "paternoster elevator", first result was a map of all of them in Czech Rep. Of which most in Prague.
Mean? He was just honest.
He was rude and condescending
It was js playful banter it seems they were reciprocating
Before my trip to Prag, surfing through internet for advice and guidance, found your account Honest Gide on RUclips and your videos. Definitely wouldn't know about elevator if it wasn't for your help. Great experience, now I have many videos and pictures from that place. Thank you very much. Paternoster❤❤
Yea tiktok is a pretty bad problem and I hate it as much as you do but acting like a jackass to those kids is a step in the wrong direction.
Intersting upload, revealing local secrets etc is always going to be difficult. Please keep making videos as I've always loved this channel, and what you have set out to achieve
To be fair to the kids, you did say you knew, so why not share? xD
Sounds like someone in Czechia needs to make an elevator museum to show off elevators like this. They could have multiple quirky elevators from around the world not just the paternoster.
It does feel like you were too mean to the young men. Their English wasn't even that good and you put them on the spot and made them look stupid. I'm about your age and I get the whole "Tiktok will rot your brain" thing, but that's no excuse to reduce these guys to a stereotype. Make fun of scammers, not kids.
I completly agree
Yeah, he came across as a know it-all giggling asshole in that.
Exactly! I ve been following the channel for quite some time and I was taken aback by his attitude towards those kids. A little more kindness would have helped.
We are all looking for kindness.
Actually, no. They are more than capable of figuring it out on their own. Had they looked it up and didn't know how to get to the address, I think he would have been more than willing to help them out. But they made zero effort and wanted him to give them the answer, when they can at least try to figure it out themselves and then ask for help if they get stuck.
Charging money would be ideal, there would be less people willing to take it and that would cover maintenance as well as the city would make a profit
Look, pal. I know damn well you mean good, but like, the way you're talking to the tourist is very rude and condescending
I hate to say it, he sounds like a total boomer ahah
He's a pretentious snoot
I've started buying vinyl records. I love when they have the 'Made in Czech Republic' sticker on the back. They make a high quality product for the artists.
8:50 Is that a typical proclamation?
it took me 5 seconds of googling to find one easily accessible in the YMCA in Prague, and many other examples in other countries! The stupidity of tourists is baffling nowadays.
your government officials taking the cop out saying it’s tourist is all i needed to hear.
Never dared to do the loop because I hadn't seen a video it was doable at the time...
BUT Feeling good for having encounter my first paternoster on my own, without the help of Google or TikTok :D and not in city hall ^^
Thanks for that !
You realize you’re part of the over tourism problem too smh
You realize they basically said that in the video? Smh...
But realistically, they're a small drop in the ocean.
On the contrary, he points out issues like fake money and taxi scams, which should scare tourists enough to not arrive to Prague at all :D
When I went there in 2019 there was no one there, we were there maybe 10mins admiring the elevator alone. Charge a small fee makes sense but another option is for another location to do this - if there is a paternoster with a cafes/shops in the same building they can attract more business to the building.
last time i was in prague walking around I just kept thinking how all the tourists would annoy the locals.
Then I laughed to myself as I was technically a tourist walking around.
That the fun of the thing, most of us at some point are tourists being annoying to the locals and at others, locals being annoyed by tourists 🤣
depends if you are in a loud drunk posse or just walking around enjoying the beauty, I would think....
I use to hate tourists, until the day they stopped coming to my city, I always say be careful what you wish for…a city that depends on mass tourism, that loses it will suddenly drown
You are the one who introduced me to this elevator :) Thanks.
A bit suspicous that tourists are using the patermoster elevators, as an amusement park ride. Am I wrong?
Why suspicious? What more do you "suspect" about it?
@@MarvinCZ The tourists are trying to find the book depository on the 6th floor.
another "instagram" opportunity probably
Honest Guide sent them there.
We went from a generation of people who finds everything on Google, to a generation of people who don’t look for anything on Google
This dude is so rude to people who is visiting and leaving money in your town and helping your economy. Ungrateful and disrespectful.
Oh man my anxiety would keep me away from that lol. I am way too clumsy.
8:50 Bonus Czech words: "ach jo" means "oh boy", "oh my" in Czech (Janek gave those guys a bit of tough love).
Though love? They asked a local and he told them to Google it while knowing the answer. Way to go for basic human decency
@@procopischristofi9158 He was trying to get them to be self-sufficient, and even Janek himself might not have known the exact location of all other elevators like that in the city. That being said, I agree he probably should have given them at least a few key words (in Czech, if necessary), like "paternoster".
The way he said “wooow. No it’s cool.” Not a thought in that head. 😂
I like you guys, but jeez. You were so unnecessarily mean and condescending to those tourist. I felt so bad form them, they just wanted to experience something and instead of honest non judgmental answers they got snide remarks for no reason. Like what did they do to you to deserve this😭.
They do if you they can't spend 10 seconds looking something up. You people expect everyone to tutor you through the most basic of things. Find some self worth and grit and do some work for real.
@@deadlock_problem I don't have a problem with them not giving them giving them the information. I just don't like how meanly it was done.
I just think it was unnecessary, that's all.
@@deadlock_problem Man, this channel is called HONEST GUIDE. They asked HONEST GUIDE for directions. What is your problem.
Stop watching this channel, thats too easy. You can find all the info in google and books. Jesus F Christ.
Czech Humor.
True
When i heard the whole building was closed for tuists it made more more sad than the elevator.
If it wasnt for tourism, he wouldn't have a yt channel 😲
and?
If it wasnt for tourism, he would be making videos like Mr. Beast:)
He literally would he started from nothing, he would still have one but it will be smaller and maybe it would be more of a hobby. Nothing wrong with that either.
Glad to visited the elevator a few weeks after your first video about it. 😊
I'm glad I got to experience riding it two years ago (thanks to your channel). I would gladly pay to ride it for its maintenance, we pay for everything, why not for this one
I'm so glad to work at a company with a Paternoster that's not open tho the public. Sadly, it is in maintenance for about 3 months now.
The way he spoke to those kids was rude and uncalled for. They were so well-mannered even while he was being a dick. Good kids. I would not have been so understanding.
When people are given something beautiful, theres always someone there to ruin it