Should Christians Save or Invest? - Ask Pastor Tim

[@Eddie_Bear_702]

Guys if you don’t work you don’t eat! Money is something that we all have to have in order to survive in this life and God is the one who provides it to us. Enjoy and spend the money responsibly that God has given you. Don’t be like the prodigal son and spend it on wickedness. Use Gods money to take care of your family and to do good for other people.

[@shanefarquhar7246]

I needed to hear this, it's been on my mind. Thank you

[@bellelopez1155]

It’s our biblical responsibility to grow what the Lord has given us. 🤑

[@LilCraftyNook]

7:26. Love this!!! Yes! God expects us to be wise stewards of the money he gives us!! (or enables us to get by giving us good health and a good job!) I get tired of the attitude of some overly self righteous people who think money is the root of all evil, instead of the LOVE of money!!

[@kaiserteach8314]

Lil Crafty Nook great point ....... I also think the lack money can be the root a lot of evil too. Money in the hands of the believer is powerful can be used to promote to kingdom work.

[@Goltzer88]

Thanks so much for this!

[@aheartonfire7191]

Do not lay up treasure for yourself where moth eats, rust destroy, and theives break in and steal. The more money you have to spend for yourself, extra money, the more you will be tempted to love the things of the world, if you are not careful.

[@LilCraftyNook]

Lightning Whip We can’t/shouldn’t give to others if we can’t even pay our own bills or help our own families. God wants us to take care of our own households and church first, then give to other outside ministries as God blesses us.

[@GlitterPoolParty]

Ant = occupy until I come. Savings = don't sacrifice an opportunity to help your neighbor or trusting in God because your priority is saving up your own wealth beyond your basic needs.
God never promised us a roof. He promised us food and clothing. He didnt establish consumer holidays, he gave us the Sabbath and a formula for honoring the Sabbath without starving on the 7th day or in the 7th year.
God provides what you NEED not whay you WANT. God sees your heart.

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

%1000 different answer than I expected, but also better than I expected. Thumbs up!

[@MarioNotLuigi]

Beautiful way to put it! =D

[@Filippahop]

Wow this is so good!!!

[@ironman2326]

I think this is some good insight!

[@bellelopez1155]

It’s our biblical responsibility to grow what the Lord has given us. 🤑

[@EvangelistRBColbert]

Yes Christians will need money for retirement too! Ecclesiastes 11:2 says invest in seven ventures, yes eight; you do not know what disaster may come upon the land.

[@felissajc]

Wisdom

[@andrewlailvaux1571]

They should trust God.

[@CAIN_STAR]

Amen, I trust the Lord with my finances, not myself.

[@jasonmeanshealer]

The Bible definitely speaks about saving money

[@bellelopez1155]

It’s our biblical responsibility to grow what the Lord has given us. 🤑

[@paulrivera3252]

The LOVE of money (not money in itself) is the root of all evil.

[@bellelopez1155]

It’s our biblical responsibility to grow what the Lord has given us. 🤑

[@thereisnopandemic]

I see many foolish remarks against being wise like the ant, an ant prepares. Investing money is a wise choice to prepare for a rainy day. Living check by check is unwise and not responsible.
Proverbs 6:6
Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
7 It has no commander,

[@EvangelistRBColbert]

Amen!!!!!!!!!

[@CowpokeCannoneer]

Joseph of Arimathea was rich. Yet, he’s the one who gave his tomb up for the body of Christ Jesus. Jesus also said in Luke 11:21, “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe”. So it seems as if the Lord is saying it’s good to arm yourself to guard your home and goods. And Paul even talks about in 2 Thessalonians 3 how and why we should “work quietly and to earn their own living”. And also have enough to give to everyone who is needy. There’s definitely a line between having money and saving it to provide for your family and to anyone who is in need. To basically, live and spend in a way that it good for others, serving God. And to have money and save in a way, where you are just living for yourself and to fund your own pleasures. It doesn’t seem as if money itself is wrong, but the love of it is.

[@2worldbeliefs]

This is why we need to be Born again genuinely.
The word of God are Proverbs and Spiritualy designed. The new convernant was established After the dead of Jesus Christ, Not befor. Jonh 16:7, Jeremiah 31:33.
Even when JESUS Christ was on the earth He was under the law. The law then was a cooperate one
But now the new covenant is an individual convernant, find out what He wants you to do by listening to your spirit, it's depends who lives there.
May God Almighty guide you through the right part.

[@nabelisrael1748]

Become rich and invest more in the kingdom of GOD.
GOD has the power to make us rich and poor.
Saved and invest your money for the next generations, so that they may continue your legacy of being a blessing to the needy people and to the kingdom of GOD.

[@Lestergreen77]

How

[@chrisbennett3290]

Keep falsehood and lies far from me; give me neither poverty nor riches, but give me only my daily bread. Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you and say, ‘Who is the Lord?’ Or I may become poor and steal, and so dishonor the name of my God.
Proverbs 30:8‭-‬9 NIV

[@kyleepp]

What about Joseph storing up grain for 7 years? I consider that to be saving.

[@bobmegnathsr.7176]

I think you meant to say , don’t lay up treasure for yourself ON EARTH but you said in heaven .

[@davidmyhren3688]

Pastor Tim can you give some insight on how you read verses like Romans 9:8. I think debt is a huge issue in our nation and in the church and I fear judgment is coming on us for it. Specifically I’m struggling with the idea of mortgages. But what should we do with with OT examples of loans like in Deuteronomy 15:1-11. I know it’s expected for basically everyone to have a mortgage but people do a lot of things I don’t agree with and I don’t want to swallow a sinful assumption. Your videos have been a huge blessing- thanks for sharing your gifts with the church.

[@kathybuck411]

Debt should not be a part of a Christian's life. I have been taught by a very wise man of God, that, you ask God what to sow, and for what cause, and he will tell you. Then sow it for that reason, God will bless you with whatever you sowed into, or prayed for. Or, he may tell you to sow into something else but believe in your heart that God is going to bless you, and God will. Sow a seed for what God says, and God will help you get out of debt.

[@miniwars123]

In another of Pastor Tim's videos (I think 10 Myths about Money and Giving, though I'm not sure) he says he doesn't believe all kind of mortgage/debt is bad, rather not paying your debts is sin. In the case of a car, he's against it because the car can't be sold for anywhere near the price you bought it and thus you may end up unable to pay for a car you can't afford. In the case of a house, he gave this example:
If you set up a mortgage such that you pay the same for a mortgage as you would be paying rent and if you default the house can be sold and the debt be paid, then ultimately you will own the home and not have to pay. It is better steward ship of your money to purchase a home than to rent.
Pastor Tim himself, if I remember right, purchased his house with a 5-year mortgage.
EDIT: @ 12:15 in this video, Pastor Tim explains he believed it better to get a 6-year mortgage for his house that to continuously rent.

[@davidmyhren3688]

Thanks I will look for that video. I’m so used to hearing 30 year mortgage and that just seems like too much for me to swallow.

[@alyssaguetzke3166]

How do we understand this verse in relation to the question: “A good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children, But the wealth of the sinner is stored up for the righteous.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭13‬:‭22‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
?

[@illbehonest]

My current interpretation of that verse suggests that in the New Testament, a faithful parent's desired legacy for their children is primarily a spiritual inheritance. This spiritual inheritance, found in Christ, holds paramount significance for Christians. In contrast, for Old Covenant Jews, the focus was on a physical inheritance, specifically a land. Therefore, when considering these distinctions, we can observe that New Testament believers seek a spiritual inheritance and anticipate a heavenly kingdom, while Old Covenant Jews pursued a physical inheritance by aiming to conquer a physical land.

[@philipbuckley759]

I wish he would say what he means, and mean what he says......

[@nathaniellirazan3262]

Is trading in the stock market sin or immoral?

[@mike.p.1400]

It gambling

[@EvangelistRBColbert]

It's not gambling! Investing is owning a part of a business or businesses!

[@ACMJPT.2]

I've invested into Bitcoin, is that a sin? I genuinely want to know. I invested about 300$ in Bitcoin.

[@spormel]

It's a bubble, get out of it before it bursts ....

[@WassupBruddah]

I did too. But a lot more. I sold at loss bought again and keeping smaller amount but thing is it became my addiction. While investing isn't bad itself it can very easily become addiction and your priorities could easily shift.

[@hvasquez24]

theres nothing wrong with saving money it is a wise think to do obviously with the right heart and not putting your trust in your money and making it your God because theres a lot of problems money cant solve buts a good practice to manage and save up for bad days. Isnt that was Joseph did in Egypt for 7 years they treasure all the food for the bad 7yrs

[@mikedunker7354]

i lost a lot of money to wrong ministries out of a good heart now i regret it

[@mikedunker7354]

to young to discern what is a good place to give

[@mkirules]

Take care of your family's needs, then give what you can. It is not noble to give all of your money away and then go on welfare because you failed to plan for the future

[@nmm5214]

The love of money is the root of all evil. And not money itself. For one can have tons of it and not love it. And on the other hand one can have very little of it and love money. And would do anything for it.

[@LilCraftyNook]

N M M I agree!! People who are very unwise with their money and then expect God to bless them drive me crazy. They talk about and actually worry about money (“love”) more than people who have money!!??

[@tonyl6385]

Amen!!

[@nathanafoa6579]

Are you guys are real Bible believers? Like KJV

[@illbehonest]

You seem to imply that a "real Bible believer" must read the KJV? If that is what you mean, than we would disagree with you on such an assertion. The KJV is a great translation, but not the only one that is faithful to the original text. We've had people among who were KJV only or Textus Receptus onlyist, for further study you can hear Tim's message on it: illbehonest.com/the-myth-of-the-king-james-only-tim-conway

[@sweetsav11]

Well imagine saving up for a house and you saved 10,000 off of the interest that you would have paid if you didn't save up for that. That could help you give to the poor more efficefienctly.

[@Macdaddy8124U]

The women who gave 2 denari, and also consider the rich young ruler who couldnt sell.

[@HillyTop]

If you invested your money, you are helping a company or a cooperative. Your money was put to something in good use. Thus, literally you are not hoarding or storing it which might be destroyed by termites or moth. On the same way you will be rewarded in due time if the company you've hepled will succeed. It's a give and take phenomenon.

[@brudyboy58]

They should give to the poor and needy. Store your treasures in heaven. As for prosperity teachers like joel osteen, Kenneth Copeland, jim bakker, jd farag, joyce Meyers etc, I think God has a special place in hell for them that's a little bit hotter.

[@haark655]

brudyboy58
Hell will be thrown into the lake of fire

[@AKI-ic1bh]

What is Kenneth Coplend did wrong? i am just not aware. Yeah i agree about joyce Mayers-i could see through her, she is not good.. selfish... there are people flee her ministry.

[@1SeekTruth1]

Jd farag is clean ,not a prosperity teacher i believe🤔

[@StellaRaeVon]

@@1SeekTruth1 who said JD Farag? He is a true Bible believing Christian, not focused one iota on money.

[@InfinitelyManic]

There appears to be no NT passage that supports savings and investing for one's long term future needs.
Mat 6:19 - Do not accumulate for yourselves treasures on earth
Heb 13:5 - be content with such things as you have
Phil 4:11-13 - have learned to be content
1 Tim 6:6-12 - But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
1 Tim 6:17-19 - not… to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches
Jas 5:1-6 … you have hoarded wealth in the last days. # context is clearly about greed
Luk 8:14 - but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature
Luk 12:15 - Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.
Luk 12:33 - Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide yourselves purses that do not wear out-a treasure in heaven that never decreases, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.