I admited my 6 children to source code academy till now I haven't paid fees bcz of financial problm but they never asked for fee, he is not doing it for money genuinely he is making all this for Allah's cause baki Allah knows best
Sir, you haven't watched "Hayy Al Falah " session, in it he mentioned the Problem and gave the Solution and said Final roadmap will be given at the 3rd Session .
Despite Sahil Adeem's extremely harsh words, the way you disagreed with him is remarkable. But believe me, Sahil Adeem is a very busy person; he doesn't have time. One of his followers sent him a short clip, but the way you replied so politely is unbelievable. Hats off to you.
The issue is our purpose is not clear we are not stuck to a bigger purpose we are egoistic ... Sahil is a true fighter of Islam and his vision is way bigger than our thinking ... Sahil is shocked that everyone is here in his own bubble at this very crucial time ..... He thinks Muslims are his brothers his children but people opine that he is an alien ..... Yeah, he is .... A true man in the dark age ! Only people who are connected to him for Allah will stay to the death with him 🌸 May Allah help us ameen
Your comment is Voice of my heart…he is a human being ofcourse… har insan sy kahi galti ho sakti ha but hmy Sahil ky maksad py nazar rakhni chahiy…. Un ka maksad bohat great ha MashaAllah… May Allah bless him with his Rehmat
He is the only one... Wow Jamaat e Islami is the only organization and we are with Jamaat for Iqamat e deen with a clear vision unlike Sahil adeem having no clear roadmap.
@@ghassanulhaq7446 Sahil Adeem has roadmap … watch his Session at Alhamrah Lahore… its a first chapter.. 2 chapters are remaining … last one will be held in Islamabad InshaAllah…
1. 'Course bechna' has a clear meaning. Its more graceful if you accept mistake and apologize. 2.Also if you don't agree with your friend why are you justifying it.
Sahil bhai hubble 2.5x powerful telescope kis course main karwa raha ha ? Apko bhi IMS ki critical thinking ki zarorat ha takay you see through his lies.
Stop Fozan! - Simply apologize for what your brother said, he explicitly said “Course bech k Khilafat…” which is great accusation towards a Muslim who’s not selling such course and out there talking Islam, even before you were vocally talking Islam-Islam in your videos. There is no exaggeration, your brother explicitly said useless thing. - What the hell? Alternate plan, not every time people have alternate plans. You can’t dare to ask politicians and mullas about Islamic Regime. - Don’t play on moral high grounds that you didn’t cashed out the controversy. This is the basic thing to do for normal humans in public domain.
Everything in Islam is based upon Qur'an and sunnah Anyone who wants to define flah would have to provide evidence from quran and sunnah If you disagree with Sahil adeems definition then bring your evidence against it
@@Defendisrael-ig4ur All I said was how would we understand what is flah? I have already mentioned that the argument would be its in Quran but the thing is there has been alot of interpretations and each interpretation have a lot of followers. Now, what I don't understand is, if that's his action plan, it won't go far as we won't remain united because of the differences. And his whole "mission" is to unite Ummah.
I'm just sad. I don't even want to know what happened. Who is right or who is wrong. It hurts when people representing islam get into these response videos. I'm beyond sad really. May Allah guide everyone. We look upto these people who are working towards the islamic system. But these conflicts and infighting hurts
wait what? 1. If Sahil Adeem disagrees with jamaat+democracy+protesting and always states this publically then when HE DOES go and stand with Jamaat IN A PROTEST then its his duty to state his reasons otherwise we'll think "ye bik gya hai" or "qoul-o-fayl mein tazaad hai". 2. His criticism on jamaat not being in the protest is 100% valid. we have heard the ppl from the continuous d-chowk dharna literally stating k aap log kaha hen sab? hum sirf 250-300 protest mein mojud rehte hen + at fajr time police mojud rehti hai but the students and other ppl start to leave and barely 25-50 log reh jatay hen and i have heard them state k uss time pe unho sab se zyada khouf hota hai k police kuch kr na de. whilst all of this is happening the general jamaat ki audience jo k har jagah hazaon ki tadaad mein pohnch jati hai has been absent. baki tamam political parties aur mazhabi parties tou hen hi hrami and we all should stop pretending k woh nhi hai but jamaat moves forward with the real doctrine of islam and the philosophy given by moududi. we expect them to address the ummahs biggest issue atm in this state of emergency and stop with the petty politics alr. 3. Sahil Adeem has given the long plan years ago. He has clarified the goal of iqamat-e-deen and has also clarified k baki sab muslims ka bhi yhi goal hai*(refer to the qaiser raja podcast with eon)* furthermore, he has given the strategy years ago as well which is to increase the intellectual and political acumen of ppl at individual level and to connect them all on a communal level. he has also explained the tactics as to how thats possible and talks abt them in many of his talks*(refer to the sahil adeem at newcastle session where theres complete details)*. 4. for this emergency state of war he has also given us the new tactics(the two step solution) which is to send the ppl to the mosques first to get the fatwas of jihad being fardh rn and secondly to mobilize the entire religious mob to take that fatwa to the parliament. its the simplest most practical solution and is inspired from the touheen-e-sahaba bill and the fight against the transgender bill. And he has been talking abt it for months so idk what ur on abt when u say he hasnt given his solutions clearly. these were his ideologies from the beginning and he has explained it from micro to macro level to not only us but has also been travelling around the globe to spread this ideology.(refer to the sahil adeem and mohammad hijab podcast).
In sab ko bahana chahiye kuch na karne ka. Aur sahil adeem ka hamesha se stance yahi rha ke bas baat nahi karna hai mobilize karna hai action ke liye. Ab in logo ka bahana nahi chalega, people are aware, allah ki taraf se
اختلاف کریں ضرور کریں لیکن آپ سے غلطی یہ ہوئی کہ آپ نے ساحل سر کو سمجھے بغیر ان کے احتجاج میں حصہ لینے پر تنقید کر دی آپ نے کہا کہ آپ تناؤ ختم کرنا چاہتے ہیں لیکن آپ کے لہجے میں جو سختی ہے اس سے ایسا بالکل بھی نہیں لگ رہا ساحل سر بڑی بساط پر کھیل رہا تھے اور آپ نے انہیں سمجھے بغیر ان پر تنقید کر کے گلی کی کرکٹ پر لے آئے ہیں آپ کو اندازہ بھی نہیں کہ آپ کتنی بڑی سٹریٹجک غلطی کر رہے ہیں اپنی چھوٹی غلطیوں کو جسٹیفائی بھی کر رہے ہیں اور وضاحت بھی دے رہے ہیں اور یہ جانتے ہوئے بھی کہ بطور انسان یہی غلطیاں ان سے بھی پو سکتی ہیں آپ کی ان کی غلطیوں کو ہی بیان کر کر کے ان کے کام میں رکاوٹ بن رہے ہیں اگر آپ پوچھیں گے کہ میں ساحل سر پر تنقید کیوں نہیں کر رہا اور یہ سمجھیں گے کہ میں biased ہوں تو میرے پاس اس کا بھی جواب ہے ڈیموکریسی اور احتجاج کو نہ ماننے کے باوجود ساحل سر نے جو کام یا باتیں کی ہیں ان کو سٹریٹجک point of view سے دیکھیں نہ کہ self contradiction کے طور پر خلاصہ کلام یہ کہ آپ سے جو غلطی ہوئی اس کا نقصان ہمیں بہت بڑے لیول پر ہو رہا ہے خدارا خدارا حالات کی نزاکت کو سمجھیں اور اپنی غلط فہمیاں دور کر کے ساتھ مل کر چلیں
Us banday ki haalat dekho jo akela hua para hy and look at u all ek Tolaa apna banaa k bethay hain SHOWING GRACE. ap aglay ki sari mehnat ko COURSE BECHNA bol den and wo choti c bat hai ?
Jaakar Huzoor S.A.W ki Seerah parhlen samjh ajaega k alternate kia ha , democracy men aankh khollene se democracy sahi nhn hojati , kal ko dictator ship men aankh kholte to aap log dictatorship ko hi sahi tariqa maan lete... isi lie kehte hen mutaallah karlen books ka ziada mushkil nhn ha....
Pichli video main to aap khud "psychologist" ban gaye thay. Ustaadh Sahil ke zeheni tawaazun par baday comment kar rahay thay. Woh waala "aadaab" say bhara huwa clip bhi dikhaana tha apna. Ya phir aapka ye gumaan hai ki nayi video banaayengay to purani video main aapne jo kuch kaha hai usko hum viewers ek dum se bhool jaayengay?
Bilkul jb maine inhe kaha ky apny ye baat kahi tu surroo main ye mukr gay thay baad main inko maine yaad karai tu ab defend karne aa gay hai afsoos fozan afsoos
آپ دونوں ہی اچھے اور مخلص انسان ہیں آپ دونوں نے ایک دوسرے کی بات سمجھنے میں غلطی کی اور غلط الفاظ کے انتخاب سے مزید بدگمانیاں بنتی جا رہی ہیں. اگر آپ دونوں ایک ملاقات کر لیں تو ساری غلط فہمیاں دور ہو جائیں گی. آپ لوگ یوں ویڈیوز نہ بنائیں پلیز
اگر آپ نے تنقید کرنی ہے تو تھوڑی اخلاقی جرأت کا مظاہرہ کریں ساحل عدیم کو ساتھ بٹھائیں نہ کہ کسی تیسرے بندے، اگر آپ سستی شہرت حاصل کرنی ہے تو برائے مہربانی کوئی طریقہ ڈھونڈیں۔
ساحل عدیم کو ساتھ تو بٹھا لیں لیکن وہ انکل ایک تو بہت خود پرستی کا شکار ہیں دوسرا ان کو بات کرنے کی تمیز نہیں 😂 فوزان بھائی جیسے سلجھی ہوئی گفتگو کرنے والوں کے لیے تو ویسے ہی اس کے ساتھ بیٹھنا عذاب ہوجائے گا۔ یقین نہیں آتا تو ان دونوں کی پوڈکاسٹ دیکھ لیں
10000% agreed to kindly fozan Bhai we also respect you but try to understand the psychological mistakes that Sahil Adeem tries to emphasize about jamat ilami
@@raousamamunawar6431 بھائی جان میرے خیال میں اگر آپ حضرت عمر فاروق رض کے دور میں تو آپ نے یہی کہنا تھا کہ حضرت عمر رض کو بات کرنے کی تمیز نہیں ہے بات کرنے کی، بات بات پر سَر اڑانے کی بات کرتے ہیں۔ اور اگر آپ کو زیادہ تمیز والا اسلام پسند ہے تو برائے مہربانی دعوت اسلامی (سبز پگڑی والے) کو جوائن کر لیں۔ شکریہ
تنقید کی شروعات تو ساحل عدیم صاحب نے کی تھی جس کی بنیاد صرف الزامات اور تہمت تھی. کیا یہی سوال آپ ساحل عدیم سے کرنا پسند کریں گے کہ وہ اتنی اخلاقی جرات دکھائیں کہ الزامات اور تہمت لگانا بند کریں اور ساتھ بیٹھ کر بات کریں؟
2 dhari talwar apka bhai ha to usko opinion rkhny ka right ha bhai wahh.... apky bhai ny argument dia phr sahil ki trf sy bat ai so u are the responsible
I am feeling too much bad 😢. What's going on between them. Insha'Allah sahil bae will understand these all things because you explain it clearly. Insha'Allah i will see all of them on same page.
You have definitely said everything very nicely , i think you should now meet or speak to him directly and clear this up but yeah also he should contact you too for clearing this out solemnly .
Your attitude and patience is far better than what we usually see in Pakistani influencers. As much as I have understood Sir Sahil, his statements are to direct the thought of the group in a certain direction, so he adds some emotion which seems like an exaggeration, and it doesnt sit right with everyone. The statement that the woman is there alone, calling out Jamaat e Islami are not for the Jamaat or anyone, nor does he dismiss their positive contributions with it, he is a behavioral psychologist and understands the behavior of the group, and uses these statement to awaken the youth into taking a specific action. Its a rather different technique than the classical one used by the others, and he himself has said that it will lead to some problems in the longer run for him, but its not that he doesnt realize this stuff. Also, what your brother said did give a wrong impression, I dont think it was ill intended though.
اس اعلان کے ساتھ کہ میرا IMS سے کوئی تعلق نہیں, بتاتا چلوں کہ جو باتیں نجی طور پر کرنے کی ہوتی ہیں ان کو یوں پبلک نہیں کیا کرتے اگر ان کے ہاں کوئی مسئلہ ہے تو اس پر یوں سر عام تنقید کر کے ان کے مقصد کو نقصان نہ پہنچائیں خدارا
اسی ویڈیو میں ساحل عدیم نے پی ٹی آئی کے انقلاب میں عدم تحریک کی یہی وجہ بتائی کہ وہ اپنا غصہ اکیلے بیٹھ کر ولاگ میں نکال دیتے ہیں، یہ کام احمد فوزان صاحب کر رہیں اپنا تجزیہ دے کر بھاگ جاتے ہیں۔ اگر آپ واقعی میں اتنے مخلص ہیں تو دوبارہ ساحل عدیم کو اپنے پروگرام میں مدعو کریں اور یہ سارے اعتراضات ان کے سامنے پیش کریں ورنہ سب لوگ یہی سمجھیں گے کہ ساحل عدیم کی دل میں چور والی بات درست ہے۔
Yes what meaningful point you raised, alhamdulillah.. Ke sara aggression bas online nikal ke satisfied ho jao aur sense of achievement mil jati hai lagta hai mera to kam ho gya, that's a cancer
Alternate system ki puri detail hai 5 hours ke session mein jo lahore stadium mn kiya hai sahil adeem ny, aap log ka problem yehi ... bandy ka poora kaam nahi dekhty or piece meal videos k zariye point of view generate krty hen or usy defend bh krty hen phr.
5:54 that is y it is said not to bring emotionally-abruptive and relatively less mature people on the show to put up questions in a very confident way. 1. "Let's Think before we speak." 2. "Hear them all, to filter them all." 3. "Listen without defending Speak Without Offending."
You earn my subscription due to the mature way you are dealing with the controversy. Although I am student of Sahil Adeem but the way you are dealing with the problem is exactly closest to the right way!
Fozan brother your brother made a stupid statement we agree to disagree but he taunt him in a disrespectful manner. I tell you what he did he changed the view of our youth to look at islam and quran he gave them vision the vision of the Prophet peace be upon him nobody ever talk about Palestine the way he did Palestine genocide didn’t start on October 7th it start way back from 1948 but he gave the awareness he forcing the youth to do critical thinking and that’s his biggest achievement and you will agree that forcing someone to think is the biggest favor you can do to anyone. Lastly i respect you and i pray that you guys resolve your disputes.
Course selling isn't Sahil Adeem business Okay.... He hired the compitant trainers And search for Sahil Adeem real business due to which he makes money Okay.... Do your homework first.
Anyone would take the same meaning from what was said abt selling the courses. Nobody knows yr intentions but what you say is quite clear. I think if you have a clear heart, you can apologise
The exaggerating point is valid, and he exaggerated your statement. and sahil bhi only watch clips and then start criticizing them without knowing the whole story
Ma- Sha-ALLAH عزوجل! ! ! keep on preaching islam without any sectarianism. May ALLAH عزوجل guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH.Aameen ! ! ! My salute for all the truth Lovers Al-hamduLILLAH
WA Salam Fauzan Bhai. We all want to see today's thought leaders together. Allah kare yeh galat fehmiyaan jald door ho jayein. We all want to see people like you, Sahil bhai, Qaisar bhai, and Engineer to set aside your egos and differences and to be on the same page for the betterment of our society.♥️
آپ کا انداز اور طریقہ کار قابل ستائش ہے۔۔اخلاق کا دامن اسی طرح تھامیں رکھیں۔ایک تو خود ساحل عدیم کا رویہ شدید ہے اوپر سے ڈھٹائی۔۔۔اللہ انہیں ہدایت دے جو خود ہدایت بانٹنے کے دعوےدار ہیں۔
I want to see sahil adeem, fozi boys, eon boys all of them together Insha'Allah Insha'Allah. Because the battle is too big and difficult so we must have to combine for real and same cause. I want you fozan bae, personally contact or meet sahil bae and discuss all these things only for one time but if he can't understand then later he will regret and come to you Insha'Allah because we are ummah. United we stand, divided we fall. It's a request brother!
I don't agree with all of your arguements, but,Well I respect this Guy for being in manners whole time, Sahil Bhai is a human , he can be mistaken . Although I consider himy greatest Teacher till now .
Fozan what if i say that it's not what that guy said it's how he said it that's what matters. I've been in this marketing industry for years now. I know how sahil might've interpreted that guy's statement as he's a psychologist so he might be sensing some dislike in that guy's tone. I don't think there's a disagreement here like you said everyone has a right to disagree so there shouldn't be a disagreement here. I don't know either of you on personal basis you both might be right or you both might be wrong as i always go with the WK (who knows) notion. So it's about the way he said it that's what might be the case here otherwise there'll always be opinions and disagreements among people which will only end when ALLAH wants.
i dont know why sir sahil adeem impose his rules instead of improving his thoughts accepting the facts of others ...its not good even sir sahil dont know about geo politics ... I just support ahmed fozan statement..sir sahil adeem shoud apologize on his statement.
Sahil adeem is working systamatically. Society ki weaknesses ko target karna aur achi communication skills k zariye young generation ko baghawat k lia tayyar karna
Again fozan a good reply from your end but there are a few things now that need some review: 1. As much as i know people like you are not here for fame. You have an agenda of betterment. Should people like you waste time on these replies? 2. Please remove sentences in which u said "kuch loag fee bhar k bhi pareshan hain" Type stuff. I think cool down n watch then u will realize that 7 mins edited video will be enough. Cool down man. 3. Yes sahil adeem has not given way forward because wayforward is not easy like a lecture. Overall i think people know your opinion and moderate style. There no need to defend your self or reply. Dont stop and waste time on replies. Instead move on with ur good work. If you ask me. If i were you Ill delete this video and ignore all the clutter.
Fozan n brother can hv a learning lesson from all this, what comes out of ur mouth without proper research n confirmation has consequences.. repercussions... be ready or be quiet.
Bhai 2 lakh ki baat ap k bary main nahi ki sahil ny video ghor se dekhen sunen.... Ap k channel py agar koi baat ho gi to us ki zimadari b ap py ho gi ... Choti baat choti baat masla choti baat ka nahi masla ye hy k ap ki soch ka pta chalta choti c baat se...
In pe sense hi nahi hai, kaisi bewakoof si baat point out kiya hai. In fact sahil adeem sb kisi ka naam le kar baat nahi karte taki problem address ho insan nahi, sahi galat clear ho na ke kon sahi kon galat hai, aur in logo ko dekho.
7:30 sahil adeem 1000 dafa bata chuky hain ky islami system lana chahiyay beshak wo kisi bhi tariqay se aay lakin wo Pakistani awam ko democracy kay qabil nhi samajhtay pata nhi kyun ap unky name pe shuhrat ly rhy plz research kia kare ap khud he question bana ky answers de dein
It takes real courage to stand against people you look up to I hope Sahil sir and you sit down and address this situation and we get a conclusion to this before the leftists take advantage of this whole situation
Mr. Fozan! Apki last response video main bhi yahe prediction the k IMS ka jatha mje comment section main bura bhala kehney jama ho jae ga ...... To apne dekh lia hoga k aisa kuch b nahi hwa IMS k log etney bhi andhay nahi hai k ghalt ko ghalt na keh sakain, sahil pe criticism krty hwe ap IMS ko bhi sath ragra laga detay hain, kiyoooonnnnnn??????
i was a staunch believer and still am in Sahil Bhai, but Sahil Bhai needs to address these issues off-camera. The Liberal Police use this content for their sake too much. Our in-house issues need to be solved in house.
Description says don’t comment before watching full video. We all know that’s not gonna happen so I discard that warning. Now my comments: It’s the continuity of the social media legacy and I am not surprised at all whatsoever is happening here. People will take sides no matter what. It’s current social media psychology that we all judge and claim we don’t judge. I don’t see a matter of being right or wrong here. Anyone attaining popularity thinks that nobody should challenge his way of operation. Either party in this case. You will never expect one party to say ok I understand your point and you are probably right. It’s inner but hidden ego as well. Previous religious scholars had great difference of opinions in certain matters but they maintained it in a very proper manner because they had a system. Currently no one is ready to accept that I have no knowledge on a subject but I must give an opinion or a verdict. Is there a solution to this , probably not, because there are no rules of the game in social media. Once RUclipsrs are popular then they become the minor idols themselves. Bigger the influencer is, more non accepting behavior is observed.
Your response is balanced. The disagreement between these two different approaches is very minor in reality and has been present for a long time. All pro Islamic activists are the same in the eyes of their enemies. Their disagreements should not give any chance to their opponents to take advantage of the situation. Any ideology needs to have a political presence in the country to bring any change in the system.
I admited my 6 children to source code academy till now I haven't paid fees bcz of financial problm but they never asked for fee, he is not doing it for money genuinely he is making all this for Allah's cause baki Allah knows best
Same experience
Sir, you haven't watched "Hayy Al Falah " session, in it he mentioned the Problem and gave the Solution and said Final roadmap will be given at the 3rd Session .
Mai 5 saal se sahil ko sun raha hu, or unka jumla 'ye baat mai next video mai tafseel se batao ga' is his way of ignoring things when he gets trapped.
Final roadmap devised by Zulfo wala Zaid Hamid?
Despite Sahil Adeem's extremely harsh words, the way you disagreed with him is remarkable. But believe me, Sahil Adeem is a very busy person; he doesn't have time. One of his followers sent him a short clip, but the way you replied so politely is unbelievable. Hats off to you.
telescope bana rahay?
The issue is our purpose is not clear we are not stuck to a bigger purpose we are egoistic ... Sahil is a true fighter of Islam and his vision is way bigger than our thinking ... Sahil is shocked that everyone is here in his own bubble at this very crucial time ..... He thinks Muslims are his brothers his children but people opine that he is an alien ..... Yeah, he is .... A true man in the dark age ! Only people who are connected to him for Allah will stay to the death with him 🌸 May Allah help us ameen
InshaAllah….
Your comment is Voice of my heart…he is a human being ofcourse… har insan sy kahi galti ho sakti ha but hmy Sahil ky maksad py nazar rakhni chahiy…. Un ka maksad bohat great ha MashaAllah… May Allah bless him with his Rehmat
He is the only one... Wow
Jamaat e Islami is the only organization and we are with Jamaat for Iqamat e deen with a clear vision unlike Sahil adeem having no clear roadmap.
@@ghassanulhaq7446 Sahil Adeem has roadmap … watch his Session at Alhamrah Lahore… its a first chapter.. 2 chapters are remaining … last one will be held in Islamabad InshaAllah…
1. 'Course bechna' has a clear meaning. Its more graceful if you accept mistake and apologize.
2.Also if you don't agree with your friend why are you justifying it.
Course beechta ga wo munafiq Sahil Adeem 5000$ ka critical thinking ka course ha iss Munafiq ka 🤬🤬🤬🖐️
Sahil bhai hubble 2.5x powerful telescope kis course main karwa raha ha ? Apko bhi IMS ki critical thinking ki zarorat ha takay you see through his lies.
Look, again you are taunting Sahil Bhai by saying 'you will be left alone' to what he said about himself.
Nothing changes comes without education.Sahil is doing right.Sahil is not doing it for his selfish interest.
Yeah like ahmed fozan
The exaggerating point is valid, and he exaggerated your statement.
Stop Fozan!
- Simply apologize for what your brother said, he explicitly said “Course bech k Khilafat…” which is great accusation towards a Muslim who’s not selling such course and out there talking Islam, even before you were vocally talking Islam-Islam in your videos. There is no exaggeration, your brother explicitly said useless thing.
- What the hell? Alternate plan, not every time people have alternate plans. You can’t dare to ask politicians and mullas about Islamic Regime.
- Don’t play on moral high grounds that you didn’t cashed out the controversy. This is the basic thing to do for normal humans in public domain.
And do you hold Sahil's each & every statement towards everyone , with the same zeal? No
sir Fauzan Sir Sahil Adeem ha provided action plan in Lahore session " hiyya Alal flah" .
I think it's an action plan and pretty sensible
Which Flah? Who would define flah? You might say Allah and Prophet (pbuh). Wo yo 1400 pehle dsy chuky lekin kia sab ne usy ik trah hi smjha ha?
Everything in Islam is based upon Qur'an and sunnah
Anyone who wants to define flah would have to provide evidence from quran and sunnah
If you disagree with Sahil adeems definition then bring your evidence against it
@@Defendisrael-ig4ur All I said was how would we understand what is flah? I have already mentioned that the argument would be its in Quran but the thing is there has been alot of interpretations and each interpretation have a lot of followers. Now, what I don't understand is, if that's his action plan, it won't go far as we won't remain united because of the differences. And his whole "mission" is to unite Ummah.
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@@usama.rehmman you are criticizing without being clear.. clear with your mindset brother. Convey what you want to say clearly
I'm just sad. I don't even want to know what happened. Who is right or who is wrong. It hurts when people representing islam get into these response videos. I'm beyond sad really. May Allah guide everyone.
We look upto these people who are working towards the islamic system. But these conflicts and infighting hurts
Its normal
Its Life it happens
Understandable yet it was crucial to clear things up on camera and in respective manner as Fozan did ✨
With all due respect we have come to the conclusion that you are biased
Definitely
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Zulfo wala Zaid Hamid I'd already biased
The clip of your brother is really something that can be misunderstood
Yeah, he could have said, course "kara" kar. The baichney wala word shows his intent behind the statement.
@@muhammadtallal3104 دو لاکھ کا تو کہیں تذکرہ بھی نہیں تھا مگر ساحل عدیم نے علمی خیانت سے کام لیتے ہوئے الزامات لگا دئیے
Sahil adeem is gem of a person and he is very mature
wait what?
1. If Sahil Adeem disagrees with jamaat+democracy+protesting and always states this publically then when HE DOES go and stand with Jamaat IN A PROTEST then its his duty to state his reasons otherwise we'll think "ye bik gya hai" or "qoul-o-fayl mein tazaad hai".
2. His criticism on jamaat not being in the protest is 100% valid. we have heard the ppl from the continuous d-chowk dharna literally stating k aap log kaha hen sab? hum sirf 250-300 protest mein mojud rehte hen + at fajr time police mojud rehti hai but the students and other ppl start to leave and barely 25-50 log reh jatay hen and i have heard them state k uss time pe unho sab se zyada khouf hota hai k police kuch kr na de. whilst all of this is happening the general jamaat ki audience jo k har jagah hazaon ki tadaad mein pohnch jati hai has been absent. baki tamam political parties aur mazhabi parties tou hen hi hrami and we all should stop pretending k woh nhi hai but jamaat moves forward with the real doctrine of islam and the philosophy given by moududi. we expect them to address the ummahs biggest issue atm in this state of emergency and stop with the petty politics alr.
3. Sahil Adeem has given the long plan years ago. He has clarified the goal of iqamat-e-deen and has also clarified k baki sab muslims ka bhi yhi goal hai*(refer to the qaiser raja podcast with eon)* furthermore, he has given the strategy years ago as well which is to increase the intellectual and political acumen of ppl at individual level and to connect them all on a communal level. he has also explained the tactics as to how thats possible and talks abt them in many of his talks*(refer to the sahil adeem at newcastle session where theres complete details)*.
4. for this emergency state of war he has also given us the new tactics(the two step solution) which is to send the ppl to the mosques first to get the fatwas of jihad being fardh rn and secondly to mobilize the entire religious mob to take that fatwa to the parliament. its the simplest most practical solution and is inspired from the touheen-e-sahaba bill and the fight against the transgender bill. And he has been talking abt it for months so idk what ur on abt when u say he hasnt given his solutions clearly.
these were his ideologies from the beginning and he has explained it from micro to macro level to not only us but has also been travelling around the globe to spread this ideology.(refer to the sahil adeem and mohammad hijab podcast).
In sab ko bahana chahiye kuch na karne ka. Aur sahil adeem ka hamesha se stance yahi rha ke bas baat nahi karna hai mobilize karna hai action ke liye. Ab in logo ka bahana nahi chalega, people are aware, allah ki taraf se
اختلاف کریں ضرور کریں
لیکن آپ سے غلطی یہ ہوئی کہ آپ نے ساحل سر کو سمجھے بغیر ان کے احتجاج میں حصہ لینے پر تنقید کر دی
آپ نے کہا کہ آپ تناؤ ختم کرنا چاہتے ہیں لیکن آپ کے لہجے میں جو سختی ہے اس سے ایسا بالکل بھی نہیں لگ رہا
ساحل سر بڑی بساط پر کھیل رہا تھے اور آپ نے انہیں سمجھے بغیر ان پر تنقید کر کے گلی کی کرکٹ پر لے آئے ہیں
آپ کو اندازہ بھی نہیں کہ آپ کتنی بڑی سٹریٹجک غلطی کر رہے ہیں
اپنی چھوٹی غلطیوں کو جسٹیفائی بھی کر رہے ہیں اور وضاحت بھی دے رہے ہیں اور یہ جانتے ہوئے بھی کہ بطور انسان یہی غلطیاں ان سے بھی پو سکتی ہیں آپ کی ان کی غلطیوں کو ہی بیان کر کر کے ان کے کام میں رکاوٹ بن رہے ہیں
اگر آپ پوچھیں گے کہ میں ساحل سر پر تنقید کیوں نہیں کر رہا اور یہ سمجھیں گے کہ میں biased ہوں تو میرے پاس اس کا بھی جواب ہے
ڈیموکریسی اور احتجاج کو نہ ماننے کے باوجود ساحل سر نے جو کام یا باتیں کی ہیں ان کو سٹریٹجک point of view سے دیکھیں نہ کہ self contradiction کے طور پر
خلاصہ کلام یہ کہ آپ سے جو غلطی ہوئی اس کا نقصان ہمیں بہت بڑے لیول پر ہو رہا ہے
خدارا خدارا
حالات کی نزاکت کو سمجھیں اور اپنی غلط فہمیاں دور کر کے ساتھ مل کر چلیں
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ساحل سر نے جماعت اسلامی کو جو نقصان پہنچانے کی کوشش کی ہے وہ کد طرح جائز ہے خدارا خدارا آپ بھی سمجھیں
100% agree
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Us banday ki haalat dekho jo akela hua para hy and look at u all ek Tolaa apna banaa k bethay hain SHOWING GRACE. ap aglay ki sari mehnat ko COURSE BECHNA bol den and wo choti c bat hai ?
بلکل سنجیدہ ہونا چاہیے ہم سب مسلمانوں کو تعصب سے باہر ہو کر متحد ہو کر امت کےلئے کام کرنا چاہیے
Jaakar Huzoor S.A.W ki Seerah parhlen samjh ajaega k alternate kia ha , democracy men aankh khollene se democracy sahi nhn hojati , kal ko dictator ship men aankh kholte to aap log dictatorship ko hi sahi tariqa maan lete...
isi lie kehte hen mutaallah karlen books ka ziada mushkil nhn ha....
Ha or yeh to jamati ho Kay Deen Kay nifaz Kay bajae democracy ko tarjeeh day rahay hay Sahab 🙏👏
Sahil Adeem is GEM and his intellectual level so high that you can’t even understand… he knows very well what he says …
Pichli video main to aap khud "psychologist" ban gaye thay. Ustaadh Sahil ke zeheni tawaazun par baday comment kar rahay thay. Woh waala "aadaab" say bhara huwa clip bhi dikhaana tha apna.
Ya phir aapka ye gumaan hai ki nayi video banaayengay to purani video main aapne jo kuch kaha hai usko hum viewers ek dum se bhool jaayengay?
In fact us vdo mein ye banda misquote bhi bahut kuch kiya tha. Apna point banane clear karne ke liye
Sir sahil ko dobara bula len ta k clear kren
You handled it gracefully 💯
You don't have to prove it to anyone. ALLAH will expose the wrong ones.
Exaggerat nh kiya balky aapne jo tanz kia hai uska jawab dia hai.. Jumla to barhaal aapne kaha hai ab video bana kay cover na kro!
Bilkul jb maine inhe kaha ky apny ye baat kahi tu surroo main ye mukr gay thay baad main inko maine yaad karai tu ab defend karne aa gay hai afsoos fozan afsoos
Yes jamat e islami ko bus koi kuch na kahe ..
آپ دونوں ہی اچھے اور مخلص انسان ہیں آپ دونوں نے ایک دوسرے کی بات سمجھنے میں غلطی کی اور غلط الفاظ کے انتخاب سے مزید بدگمانیاں بنتی جا رہی ہیں.
اگر آپ دونوں ایک ملاقات کر لیں تو ساری غلط فہمیاں دور ہو جائیں گی.
آپ لوگ یوں ویڈیوز نہ بنائیں پلیز
اگر آپ نے تنقید کرنی ہے تو تھوڑی اخلاقی جرأت کا مظاہرہ کریں ساحل عدیم کو ساتھ بٹھائیں نہ کہ کسی تیسرے بندے، اگر آپ سستی شہرت حاصل کرنی ہے تو برائے مہربانی کوئی طریقہ ڈھونڈیں۔
ساحل عدیم کو ساتھ تو بٹھا لیں لیکن وہ انکل ایک تو بہت خود پرستی کا شکار ہیں دوسرا ان کو بات کرنے کی تمیز نہیں 😂
فوزان بھائی جیسے سلجھی ہوئی گفتگو کرنے والوں کے لیے تو ویسے ہی اس کے ساتھ بیٹھنا عذاب ہوجائے گا۔ یقین نہیں آتا تو ان دونوں کی پوڈکاسٹ دیکھ لیں
10000% agreed to kindly fozan Bhai we also respect you but try to understand the psychological mistakes that Sahil Adeem tries to emphasize about jamat ilami
@@raousamamunawar6431
بھائی جان میرے خیال میں اگر آپ حضرت عمر فاروق رض کے دور میں تو آپ نے یہی کہنا تھا کہ حضرت عمر رض کو بات کرنے کی تمیز نہیں ہے بات کرنے کی، بات بات پر سَر اڑانے کی بات کرتے ہیں۔
اور اگر آپ کو زیادہ تمیز والا اسلام پسند ہے تو برائے مہربانی دعوت اسلامی (سبز پگڑی والے) کو جوائن کر لیں۔ شکریہ
تنقید کی شروعات تو ساحل عدیم صاحب نے کی تھی جس کی بنیاد صرف الزامات اور تہمت تھی. کیا یہی سوال آپ ساحل عدیم سے کرنا پسند کریں گے کہ وہ اتنی اخلاقی جرات دکھائیں کہ الزامات اور تہمت لگانا بند کریں اور ساتھ بیٹھ کر بات کریں؟
Oh hoo 😂😂😂
The way your brother articulated the statement is condemnable. You should condemn it brother.
He has the right to have his opinion! You can ask him
@@ahmedfozan123Tohmat ma or opinion ma farq ha! Usna inzam lagaya ka wo course baich ra hien there is a difference!
@@ahmedfozan123he has a right to express his opinion in bad words but sahil not loll
2 dhari talwar apka bhai ha to usko opinion rkhny ka right ha bhai wahh.... apky bhai ny argument dia phr sahil ki trf sy bat ai so u are the responsible
Do u have ethics to ikhtilaf raeplz do researxh
I am feeling too much bad 😢. What's going on between them. Insha'Allah sahil bae will understand these all things because you explain it clearly. Insha'Allah i will see all of them on same page.
You have definitely said everything very nicely , i think you should now meet or speak to him directly and clear this up but yeah also he should contact you too for clearing this out solemnly .
True person always stands alone
Your attitude and patience is far better than what we usually see in Pakistani influencers.
As much as I have understood Sir Sahil, his statements are to direct the thought of the group in a certain direction, so he adds some emotion which seems like an exaggeration, and it doesnt sit right with everyone.
The statement that the woman is there alone, calling out Jamaat e Islami are not for the Jamaat or anyone, nor does he dismiss their positive contributions with it, he is a behavioral psychologist and understands the behavior of the group, and uses these statement to awaken the youth into taking a specific action. Its a rather different technique than the classical one used by the others, and he himself has said that it will lead to some problems in the longer run for him, but its not that he doesnt realize this stuff.
Also, what your brother said did give a wrong impression, I dont think it was ill intended though.
Islam is a social, economical and political system. Whether seculars like it or not
Allah Sahil bhai ka jo azeem mission hy usy pora kry aur rasty my rory atkany walon ko hdayat dy aamin
MaShaAllah ❤ you are a sensible person, May Allah guide you all the way to Jannah... Aameen
Fozan you handled it well 👍
Please Contact Sahil Directly and clear the Confusion + also show the Messages people did to you Especially regarding IMS
اس اعلان کے ساتھ کہ میرا IMS سے کوئی تعلق نہیں, بتاتا چلوں کہ جو باتیں نجی طور پر کرنے کی ہوتی ہیں ان کو یوں پبلک نہیں کیا کرتے
اگر ان کے ہاں کوئی مسئلہ ہے تو اس پر یوں سر عام تنقید کر کے ان کے مقصد کو نقصان نہ پہنچائیں خدارا
He likes only the comments jis mai ye likha hua hai k you handled it well 😂😂😂
اسی ویڈیو میں ساحل عدیم نے پی ٹی آئی کے انقلاب میں عدم تحریک کی یہی وجہ بتائی کہ وہ اپنا غصہ اکیلے بیٹھ کر ولاگ میں نکال دیتے ہیں، یہ کام احمد فوزان صاحب کر رہیں اپنا تجزیہ دے کر بھاگ جاتے ہیں۔ اگر آپ واقعی میں اتنے مخلص ہیں تو دوبارہ ساحل عدیم کو اپنے پروگرام میں مدعو کریں اور یہ سارے اعتراضات ان کے سامنے پیش کریں ورنہ سب لوگ یہی سمجھیں گے کہ ساحل عدیم کی دل میں چور والی بات درست ہے۔
Yes what meaningful point you raised, alhamdulillah.. Ke sara aggression bas online nikal ke satisfied ho jao aur sense of achievement mil jati hai lagta hai mera to kam ho gya, that's a cancer
Alternate system ki puri detail hai 5 hours ke session mein jo lahore stadium mn kiya hai sahil adeem ny, aap log ka problem yehi ... bandy ka poora kaam nahi dekhty or piece meal videos k zariye point of view generate krty hen or usy defend bh krty hen phr.
Aao kamyabi ki taraf(translation of that session)
5:54 that is y it is said not to bring emotionally-abruptive and relatively less mature people on the show to put up questions in a very confident way.
1. "Let's Think before we speak."
2. "Hear them all, to filter them all."
3. "Listen without defending Speak Without Offending."
Saying someone is doing it for money but using his name in every video to get views, interesting 🤔😂
You earn my subscription due to the mature way you are dealing with the controversy. Although I am student of Sahil Adeem but the way you are dealing with the problem is exactly closest to the right way!
Fozan brother your brother made a stupid statement we agree to disagree but he taunt him in a disrespectful manner. I tell you what he did he changed the view of our youth to look at islam and quran he gave them vision the vision of the Prophet peace be upon him nobody ever talk about Palestine the way he did Palestine genocide didn’t start on October 7th it start way back from 1948 but he gave the awareness he forcing the youth to do critical thinking and that’s his biggest achievement and you will agree that forcing someone to think is the biggest favor you can do to anyone. Lastly i respect you and i pray that you guys resolve your disputes.
Course selling isn't Sahil Adeem business Okay.... He hired the compitant trainers
And search for Sahil Adeem real business due to which he makes money Okay.... Do your homework first.
Anyone would take the same meaning from what was said abt selling the courses.
Nobody knows yr intentions but what you say is quite clear.
I think if you have a clear heart, you can apologise
Jamat e Islami mn se islam to usi waqt nikal gaya tha jab Modudi Shb ne vote dala tha.
Now the whole jamat is defending Democracy
The exaggerating point is valid, and he exaggerated your statement. and sahil bhi only watch clips and then start criticizing them without knowing the whole story
Jazakallah brother
❤ love you man
What an amazing conversation.
more power to you man
Ma- Sha-ALLAH عزوجل! ! ! keep on preaching islam without any sectarianism. May ALLAH عزوجل guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH.Aameen ! ! ! My salute for all the truth Lovers Al-hamduLILLAH
i must say it takes courage to even disagree with someone
keep up the good work
Be Blessed Sir❤,
Hoping to see Sahil Bhai and You back on Podcast for a productive discussion
yaar. MashaAllah. Really happy from your response
Palestine k Jo solution Sahil Bhai ny dia ha AP please us bare bat kren masajid ko mobilize kren
masjid ko moblize karna asab bahe yeh dokanein hain apney apney firqey ki. rozy roty ka swal hay baba.
Ap kub sy tuhmateey lga rhy ha???
WA Salam Fauzan Bhai. We all want to see today's thought leaders together.
Allah kare yeh galat fehmiyaan jald door ho jayein.
We all want to see people like you, Sahil bhai, Qaisar bhai, and Engineer to set aside your egos and differences and to be on the same page for the betterment of our society.♥️
If u listen his all videos u will understand his alternate work he is doing the work which will bring a big change insha Allah
Great video. He picked words wisely
arguments aren't convincing enough
آپ کا انداز اور طریقہ کار قابل ستائش ہے۔۔اخلاق کا دامن اسی طرح تھامیں رکھیں۔ایک تو خود ساحل عدیم کا رویہ شدید ہے اوپر سے ڈھٹائی۔۔۔اللہ انہیں ہدایت دے جو خود ہدایت بانٹنے کے دعوےدار ہیں۔
❤❤bahut undah apka response hai apn isteqamat per Rahe aap sahj hai
Aur sahil sir ko kisi tarah ki misunderstanding hui hai
Hats off to you❤️
Great Video, Brother
Amazing response 👍 sir
Your way of disagreement is of next level ❤
I want to see sahil adeem, fozi boys, eon boys all of them together Insha'Allah Insha'Allah. Because the battle is too big and difficult so we must have to combine for real and same cause.
I want you fozan bae, personally contact or meet sahil bae and discuss all these things only for one time but if he can't understand then later he will regret and come to you Insha'Allah because we are ummah. United we stand, divided we fall. It's a request brother!
Sahil adeem bhangi aur cancer raja ko band karwao
Phir baijnay ka kya matlab hain bata do
Boht khob bhai. Boht ache se ap ne clear kar diya
I don't agree with all of your arguements, but,Well I respect this Guy for being in manners whole time, Sahil Bhai is a human , he can be mistaken . Although I consider himy greatest Teacher till now .
The way of explanation.. ❤
Fozan what if i say that it's not what that guy said it's how he said it that's what matters.
I've been in this marketing industry for years now.
I know how sahil might've interpreted that guy's statement as he's a psychologist so he might be sensing some dislike in that guy's tone.
I don't think there's a disagreement here like you said everyone has a right to disagree so there shouldn't be a disagreement here.
I don't know either of you on personal basis you both might be right or you both might be wrong as i always go with the WK (who knows) notion.
So it's about the way he said it that's what might be the case here otherwise there'll always be opinions and disagreements among people which will only end when ALLAH wants.
Good response
Every thing is on youtube its a humble advice to go and see and ap ikhtilaf krain. sahil adeem private courses ma ni apna mission chala rhy its open
i dont know why sir sahil adeem impose his rules instead of improving his thoughts accepting the facts of others ...its not good even sir sahil dont know about geo politics ... I just support ahmed fozan statement..sir sahil adeem shoud apologize on his statement.
brother mention his just one vedio in which he impose his own rules.... whenever he talks he talks through Quran and Seerah....
Facts of other ni hoty asool Allah btae ga koi insan ni
Ims is free of cost 1 rupea bhi nai laga kisi ka us ma na koi course hay ims ma paiso ka
Courses alag hote hay source code academy pay
We need both of you sit together and talk.
Good sir👍🏻keep it up
Keep it up bayta may ALLAh swt give you strength, barakah and Khair in dunia and Akhira
Doston main Aisa ho jata hai, just leave it ,we love you all.❤️👍
Sahil adeem sell courses no doubt about it 2 years ago i was so impressed by Sahil adeem I want to learn Arabic but Sahil,s courses aren't free😭😭😭
Why you don't tell the audience of those people who reach you to talk against about the Sahi adeem
great bro
Jab apko sach me kuch na kuch galat bolna ho or tum samjh nahi pa rhe ho ke kya kami nikale...
Sahil adeem is working systamatically. Society ki weaknesses ko target karna aur achi communication skills k zariye young generation ko baghawat k lia tayyar karna
Again fozan a good reply from your end but there are a few things now that need some review:
1. As much as i know people like you are not here for fame. You have an agenda of betterment. Should people like you waste time on these replies?
2. Please remove sentences in which u said "kuch loag fee bhar k bhi pareshan hain" Type stuff. I think cool down n watch then u will realize that 7 mins edited video will be enough. Cool down man.
3. Yes sahil adeem has not given way forward because wayforward is not easy like a lecture.
Overall i think people know your opinion and moderate style. There no need to defend your self or reply. Dont stop and waste time on replies. Instead move on with ur good work.
If you ask me. If i were you Ill delete this video and ignore all the clutter.
Fozan n brother can hv a learning lesson from all this, what comes out of ur mouth without proper research n confirmation has consequences.. repercussions... be ready or be quiet.
Bhai 2 lakh ki baat ap k bary main nahi ki sahil ny video ghor se dekhen sunen.... Ap k channel py agar koi baat ho gi to us ki zimadari b ap py ho gi ... Choti baat choti baat masla choti baat ka nahi masla ye hy k ap ki soch ka pta chalta choti c baat se...
In pe sense hi nahi hai, kaisi bewakoof si baat point out kiya hai. In fact sahil adeem sb kisi ka naam le kar baat nahi karte taki problem address ho insan nahi, sahi galat clear ho na ke kon sahi kon galat hai, aur in logo ko dekho.
People need to get out of this cult mentality in order to see and acknowledge things as they actually are.
This must end!
Hats off to Fozan Sir
7:30 sahil adeem 1000 dafa bata chuky hain ky islami system lana chahiyay beshak wo kisi bhi tariqay se aay lakin wo Pakistani awam ko democracy kay qabil nhi samajhtay pata nhi kyun ap unky name pe shuhrat ly rhy plz research kia kare ap khud he question bana ky answers de dein
Bhai sahil adeem ny tareeqa kiya bataya hy islamic system Lany ka yeh to bata do
Ahmad Fozan Bhai Apke Ikhtilaaf Karne mein Jo Pyara Akhlaq hai Uska Mein Fan Hogya hon Mazeed ♥️Love U Bro🌹
Fozan U r justifying your brother wrongly … you are also exaggerating and your brother disrespected our teacher ! Check your tone !
It takes real courage to stand against people you look up to
I hope Sahil sir and you sit down and address this situation and we get a conclusion to this before the leftists take advantage of this whole situation
Mr. Fozan! Apki last response video main bhi yahe prediction the k IMS ka jatha mje comment section main bura bhala kehney jama ho jae ga ...... To apne dekh lia hoga k aisa kuch b nahi hwa IMS k log etney bhi andhay nahi hai k ghalt ko ghalt na keh sakain, sahil pe criticism krty hwe ap IMS ko bhi sath ragra laga detay hain, kiyoooonnnnnn??????
Please apny bhai ka kia na sameto accept kro k osny glti ki hai he just passed an estimate randomly which seems not random by the way
I think Sahil sometimes dont convey / communicate properly hence the misunderstandings.
i was a staunch believer and still am in Sahil Bhai, but Sahil Bhai needs to address these issues off-camera. The Liberal Police use this content for their sake too much. Our in-house issues need to be solved in house.
Description says don’t comment before watching full video. We all know that’s not gonna happen so I discard that warning. Now my comments:
It’s the continuity of the social media legacy and I am not surprised at all whatsoever is happening here. People will take sides no matter what. It’s current social media psychology that we all judge and claim we don’t judge. I don’t see a matter of being right or wrong here. Anyone attaining popularity thinks that nobody should challenge his way of operation. Either party in this case. You will never expect one party to say ok I understand your point and you are probably right. It’s inner but hidden ego as well. Previous religious scholars had great difference of opinions in certain matters but they maintained it in a very proper manner because they had a system. Currently no one is ready to accept that I have no knowledge on a subject but I must give an opinion or a verdict. Is there a solution to this , probably not, because there are no rules of the game in social media.
Once RUclipsrs are popular then they become the minor idols themselves. Bigger the influencer is, more non accepting behavior is observed.
Whats the fruit????
Your response is balanced. The disagreement between these two different approaches is very minor in reality and has been present for a long time. All pro Islamic activists are the same in the eyes of their enemies. Their disagreements should not give any chance to their opponents to take advantage of the situation. Any ideology needs to have a political presence in the country to bring any change in the system.