NATO Tanks Special: Inside the vehicles fighting Putin on the Frontline | @thetankmuseum
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2023
- Frontline heads to the Tank Museum Bovington to find out how Ukraine is using Western and its own tanks to turn the tide on Putin's invasion and see them in action with Curator and tanks expert David Willey.
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i don't know if russian sovel is so advanced and can destroyed Indestructible NATO tank.
99% of tanks destroyed by anti-tank missiles, mines, artillery, drones, rockets from helicopters, bombs from planes and problems with logistics. not a tank vs tank battle
So it's useless to compare battle t90m vs leopard 2 a6
Love David Willey & could listen to him talk about tanks all day :). That said, while the design flaws & other problems with Soviet/Russian armor are well known, there are two pieces of information that appear to be missing from the analysis in regards to some of The Western equipment that has been shipped to Ukraine:
1). It's odd that this wasn't mentioned, but unlike The Leclerc, Leopard 2, T-72B3, T-80, & T-90, The Abrams, Challenger 2, & Bradley fighting vehicle all lack laser warning receivers, hence as to why Russian helicopters & atgms, etc., have been having a field day against said ifvs in that the crew has no idea/warning that they are being targeted by laser-guided missiles. It's a huge weakness.
2). Despite the fact that The Abrams, Challenger 2, & Leopard 2 have markedly better thermal sights than any Russian tank that is not The T-90M, a quadcopter doesn't care about any of that, which is the main reason for there having been very few traditional armored battles during this conflict in that the combination of drones & artillery effectively outrange the capabilities of the main guns on even the best tanks.
Oh, & the autoloader isn't the reason that Soviet/Russian tanks "cookoff", as the latter is the result of storing unprotected ammunition in the turret, so yeah.
The timing of this awfully dishonest propaganda couldn't be better. You're going to do a lot of damage to your brand while anyone with Telegram can go and find pictures of dozens of these vaunted wunderwaffe destroyed by Russians.
Oh man, David is exaggerating with that Leo 1.
It is enormously enjoying to listen to someone, who ACTUALLY, knows what he is talking about for exchange!
he really doesn't
Yeah imagine a guy old enough to have lost family to Nazis in WW2 supporting NAZIS in Ukraine he's a real Gem
@@yfelwulf How is he supporting Nazis?
I disagree. The central piece of the tank is the crew. These Ukrainian crews haven't had time to gel as a team. I could take a T72 crew that has been together for 2 years and put them against a Leopard 2 who's been together for 5 months and the T72 Crew would win.
@@johnevans7800 @johnevans7800 The central piece of tank warfare is the logistics! Amateurs discuss materiel, Professionals discuss logistics my friend! In real life there is no such scenario that you describe here, particularly in Russia! This type of scenario only exists on the paper but hardly ever in Russia, nor in Ukraine! The reality there is much different than you ever imagine! Russians are oppressors here, low motivation, low morale, away from home in hostile territory from both sides of a fence... Regardless of training (which by the way is rather poor or one sided, incapable to improvise, incapable of collaborative effort, under strict vertical management, corrupt to the core, rigid...) they are not motivated by any means! Ukrainians from other hands fight not only for their country or their freedom but for the very existence of them and most importantly, their families - their mothers, sisters, wives!
By your STATS, they should have lost already in a first week of war, yet no end is on sight! Same manner, back in 1939, in Russo-Finnish War or in Winter war as it is better known, Finland was ought to be taken in a week, read the history my friend, by the STATS you would have been right, Finnish however, before your time proved you to be wrong as do Ukrainians today! HOW do I know!? I served 3.5 years in Soviet (Special) Expeditionary Forces, retired Sgt. Maj. and I've seen Russian military intimately from inside - I was living it mate! STATS is not everything! Yet I agree with you and Stalin - human force is decisive!
Gotta support our museums! An invaluable resource that the internet could never offer a substitute for!
This was a great interview. I rarely miss one of Kate's interviews. A truly excellent journalist.
This guy is really knowledgeable and articulate. Pleasure to listen to him.
Its great seeing these guys from the Tank Museum on Times Radio...been watching them for years, they definitely know their craft and kit, and how tanks STILL matter on the battlefield.
well after seeing all the ukrainians tanks smashed by russian artillary and mines...
Russia loses 1000 tanks
Russia: 🦗🦗🦗
Ukraine loses 10 leopards
Russia: we are winning
@@georgyzhukov6409 no one said they were invincible. without air dominance tanks are an easy target without the right training.
@@sumwun9908 10Leopards plus hundreds of T series tanks. Ukraine has lost far higher percentage of armour than Russian.
@@johnnyappleseed738Ukraine have only used 10% so far
Superb presentation. Good questions from Kate, answered comprehensively and in an easily understandable way. Thank you 🙏 💛 💙 🇬🇧
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@@javierfrancia1938: f 00ff Ivan with your 50IQ spam.
David Willey is a true gem when it comes to explaining this stuff to the general public.
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He said "that phrase, 'Big Boy's War'", so sorry, not a 'gem', more of a childish twit, like many who have an exaggerated hero-worship love of military / adoration of Avenger's movies / experts on Buffy episodes / ranking Fortnite weaponry etc.
@@javierfrancia1938 : Quit spamming your stuuu pid comment Ivan. 0 potatoes for you.
deserves an mbe or something
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What a resource the Tank Museum is. They had a tough time during Covid but glad to hear they are bouncing back and rolling with the punches. Slava Ukraine.
We all had to tread carefully during covid.
During covid they very quickly started to focus on RUclips and such, and they now have over 500,000 subscribers and tons of patreons. It was probably a big part of the fact that they didn't completely sink, and now can continue "as usual" + the RUclips/social media.
Not that it made them extremely rich (I assume 😉), but hopefully they now have the ability to spread costs over more than "just entrance tickets".
@@tor6684looking at the people running it, any cash they do get will just go towards moar tank
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@@javierfrancia1938 : quit spamming Ivan!
The advantage the challenger 2 has is the ability to brew a cup of tea . Its unique on the battlefield and will give the crew an advantage
It's not unique. The American Abrams has an identical boiling vessel.
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@@heycidskyja4668Excellent! Always good to hear that a useful bit of kit has also been adopted by ones allies.
It means that one can invite the other over for a nice cup of tea without them feeling embarrassed by any inability to reciprocate in kind.
Entente Cordiale and all that.
Slava Ukraini.
🇬🇧🤝🇺🇦
@@heycidskyja4668Copied from the British yeah.
@@heycidskyja4668 and the swedes have an even more advanced boiler unit in their IFVs
Timely topic, great questions from Kate and realistic and sober answers from David
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1st rate interview! Great questions from Kate....great answers from David!!
You must have rather low standards.
Man is a legend to anyone who likes tanks
It's always great to hear David talk about tanks.
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Sweet tan, great tour . Keep it up , love your Tank Museum channel .
Some of the old tanks are being used as stand off self-propelled guns, and just in the last few days as VBIED-type kamikaze vehicles packed with explosives and sent towards Ukrainian lines.
Well people laughed at Russia for bringing T55s out of storage now we know what for, they're getting packed with tons of explosives and sent towards trenches a terrifying weapon in all honesty.
@@odinbiflindi, not only for that! They are more accurate for long range fire.
@@odinbiflindi They only explode if you fire at them. It took the Ukrainians less than 48 hours to figure that out.
@@hb1338 Yeah firing an RPG at a tank stuffed with 6 tons of explosives is a good way to get turned into red mist.
HAHAHA. "Cope cages" has come into use at the museum now, that's hilarious and wonderful. We're a part of history guys!
We call em cope cages but the russians created them to stop top attack drones, as per experience from the Azer-Arm war. Theres a couple videos out there of kamakazi drones getting stuck in the cage
“Cope cages began appearing on Russian armored vehicles in late 2021 amid the pre-war buildup as a counter to loitering munitions and drones, particularly the Turkish-made TB-2 used in the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh War and later by Ukraine against Russian forces.”
-Yahoo .
@@HOTSHTMAN53 No, they used them in an attempted and failed method to stop javelins and nlaws.
Time stamp?
I want to hear it but I don't have 30 min
@@gherkinisgreat double checked your statement and your claim is false. It was designed to primarily stop drones and loitering munitions.
@@gherkinisgreat “Cope cages began appearing on Russian armored vehicles in late 2021 amid the pre-war buildup as a counter to loitering munitions and drones, particularly the Turkish-made TB-2 used in the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh War and later by Ukraine against Russian forces.”
Yahoo news
Great interview, and thankful that the reporter did not interrupt the very knowledgeable gentleman.
She was bored shitless
He knows about tanks but he's talking nonsense about the situation in Ukraine.
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This was a good interview. Thabks for meaningful questions!
Excellent! Thank You Times Radio!
David Willey offers great analyis...good interview by Kate. Tank Museum keeps showing up as an expert with some unique examples, demonstrating International relevance. Guessing the media exposure is bringing in more foot traffic and more international visitors.
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@@javierfrancia1938 a.k.a. Ivan: F 0ff spammer.
Excellent interview, knowledgeable, insightful, fair minded and honest. Well done.
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Well, maybe apart from "The Chieftain" himself, David Willey is probably as good as you can get when it comes to questions about tanks. Really good educational tutorial for anyone wondering what today's tanks-stuff is really about.
And always appreciate when a natural follow-up question comes... not just the next scripted one. Demonstrates journalistic knowledge and professionalism.
Surprised David didn't refer to the problem of Russian air assets, particularly AHs.
Ukraine absolutely needs F16 as well as other interdiction airframes to press this campaign.
ASAP.
David Willey is a lot better because he doesn't make it about himself. It's always about the tanks and only the tanks. Moran is a tiresome self-promoter and a bit of a blowhard.
@@petetimbrell3527 lol press the campaign?
@@vulturedroid9804 And?
David Willey is head and shoulders above the other guy when it comes to historic context.
This presentation is dense with information. Wiley is excellent!
I like her style. She's doing great interviews and this visit at Bovington is very engaging. Great work!
That was terrific. Thank you.
Fascinating video and discussed with such a clear-cut explanations too, which isn't too surprising since they are a museum and train military's there. 👍
Tank Museum videos are great!
Kate brings us one of the most informative and detailed reports of the battle tank which curator and historian David Willey deftly points out is a British invention and is still valid in armed conflicts. David lays out the fact that the battle tank, though exposed to numerous explosive arms and elements that can stop the metal monster in less than a heartbeat is still useful militarily as well as a symbol of power on the battlefield. In another videocast, a Ukrainian tank commander said that foot soldiers feel better and are more confident with tanks cruising across the badlands with the troops and blowing up trenches and artillery positions and attacking enemy soldiers. David's excellent and compelling historical and present-day analysis tells us that all aspects of fighting are present in modern-day warfare, from trenches to machine-gun nests, to artillery and air power and to top it off drones have been added to the list as the latest deadly new weapon being used in Ukraine. So; the tank is here to stay and as Mr Willey points out, they are going to get destroyed in battle because the enemy sees knocking out a western tank as a way of diminishing its power. All around excellent interview by Kate and incredible history lesson and modern-day battle update from David Willey.
I agree with you on your assessment. I do disagree with you repeating that Britain invented the tank. I never hear in an F-35 story on how the Americans invented the first powered airplane. Yes they did, yes we did, but irrelevant.
@@JM800 He pointed that out as part of an explanation of periods of malaise in British and some nation's tank development.
The main thing is not said that NATO started this war, already a 9-year-old NATO war against Russia on the territory of Ukraine, this NATO war started in February 2014 ... This war will end badly for NATO, because NATO media has been depriving its citizens of truthful information about this for 9 years NATO war against Russia in NATO-occupied territory of Ukraine...
@@JM800 It is important to keep in mind that the WW1 wartime development of the "tank" (its cover story when being constructed said it was an experimental battlefield water delivery vehicle) required very powerful sponsors at the highest government levels for this initiative to succeed. One of them was Winston Churchill.
As head of the Royal Navy, he could "make things happen" when it came to steel allocation, etc. For example, the artillery pieces for the tanks were from Royal Navy stocks. "Inventing the tank" was the easy part, getting a government crash program started to quickly put it into mass production was the miracle. Of course the massive appalling casualty figures from the Western Front were also a factor in that the tank was a helpful propaganda smokescreen to deflect attention and show that something was being done about the huge combat related death toll.
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Tanks will always be needed in the battlefield.
As long as there is infantry on the ground, the tank is needed to support,bolster, or press attacks.
Great interview. Intelligent questions, beautifully answered, 👍🇦🇺🇺🇦
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This popped into my recommendations the day after the first loss of a Challenger 2 to an adversary in combat was announced.
The crew are reported to have survived, thankfully.
I hope this war ends soon and Ukraine can start to rebuild.
he was very reserved in his commentary, general media could learn a thing.
I love the way this guy says piutin. 🤣
The Leopard 1A5 DK and DK1 Ukraine are getting 80 of is not the old version from the 60's, but were purchased by Denmark in the early 90's and further upgraded in the early- mid 90's in Denmark by Falck-Schmidt Defense Systems, to actually be used in action by Denmark in the UNPROFOR/SFOR operation in Bosnia (look up Operation Bøllebank). Back then they were equipped with a new Leopard 2A4 fire control computer, a laser range finder and the Leopard 2A4 stabilized thermal sight, night vision.
The commanders forward periscope and panoramic sight were extended and the gun received a thermal sleeve and a muzzle reference collimator at the end of the barrel, a new fire-suppression system, Honda generator, GPS, RAMTA mine ploughs, roof mounted "fast fittings" for close defence work and a rear mounted turret ammunition rack and air-condition.
The Leopard 1A5 DK also have a 6 times faster maximum reverse speed in compare to a Russian T-72, just like the Leopard 2A4 upgrade features will come in handy I'm sure. The Leopard 1A5 DK also has a turret which was designed to accept the newer 120 mm gun barrel from the Leopard 2A4, but this option was not originally made use of, but could easily be done now.
The Leopard 1A5 DK and 1A5 DK-1 were all out-phased in 2005 and in 2010 they were handed over to German company FFG in Flensburg who keep, upgrade and sell older tanks and armored personnel carriers from both the Danish and German military, and who are responsible for their battle ready maintenance-upgrade, before they are handed over to the Ukrainians.
Great interview! Good questions and she let him talk and never interrupted or talked over him
Last few days I’ve been wondering about the rumours of those few hundred Merkava’s
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@@javierfrancia1938: Pathetic trolling, Ivan. 0 potatoes for you.
A realistic review... That's why I subscribed to them 5 years ago. Non political but facts.. Thumbs up for them.
@@davidleitch9944don’t whinge and whine when the aggressor invades a peaceful sovereign country fights back. Putin is having his a$$ handed to him on a plate and that’s the only comment you can make. SMH!
@NoseyCurio: That is not politics, it is helping someone with the same values. Helping some average person who gets mugged by a criminal is also NOT political.
Hugely educational watch. Thank you.
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@@WHS_reviews go to bed girl, its too late for you
Great video. The tank museums RUclips channel is excellent, so informative.
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People seem to forget, most tank fire is HE in support of infantry rather than armor piercing tank on tank fighting. The oldest T54 will still provide decent direct fire infantry support. It does not have night fighting capability or a really good sight, but it is still very dangerous when you are facing them as infantry.
Russia using the t54/55 as spg's
They make great Kamikaze Tanks.
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If you want to educate please write out the terminology, I would like to know what HE means.
@@Apjooz : he = high explosive as opposed to armor piercing.
Loved how David repeatedly and clearly set expectations on the reality of war, to try and get ahead of the press narrative of doom and discouragement at the sight of the first disabled/destroyed/capture Challenger 2.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the as yet unpublished article is already 90% written with a placeholder for an image, location and date.
Challenger 2 and other Western tanks will make a difference. They are far more survivable and far easier to replace than years of crew training.
They are also more confidence inspiring to a crew exactly because of that compared to one that wants to send sections of your body into orbit from a single strike.
I love the Tank Museum at Bovington and hope to visit it one day. I'll certainly stop by the shop if I do!
It's great to hear experts that aren't really tied directly to the war in some way sharing their expertise. It's also a nice change from the military bloggers.
I think I see why they upgraded the Challenger I...they put the main gun on backwards! 😏
Really liked that episode. I think tanks are still fearsome looking and interesting to hear in the present day how they still have their place.
He has really stepped up to thecould give a master class in leadership.
I am mesmerized buy the intensity of which you are listening to this man. Very rare in this day of 10 second headlines.
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@@javierfrancia1938 : f 0ff Ivan.
"It doesn't matter if 99 out of hundred tanks are left on the battlefield as long as 1 tank is remaining and they've achieved their objective."
A very sobering assessment of modern war ... 😞
I mean if only 1 tank is left that is what most people would call a Pyrrhic victory since that brigade is now combat ineffective for a long time.
@@nemisous83 True ... but in essence he is right. Just think of the Israelis in the Yom Kippur war. Quoting from Wikipedia:
The Israeli 7th Brigade was left with seven tanks, and Ben-Gal told Eitan he could no longer hold on. Suddenly A3, surrounded by Syrian forces, reported that the Syrian supply trains were turning around and withdrawing.[47] Dennie Agmon, Eitan's intelligence officer, told him that the Syrian General Staff had decided to retreat.[49] The Syrian forces, having lost over 500 tanks and APCs, began to withdraw.
Although the Israelis lost 60-80 tanks, they still managed to inflict more damage on the Syrians during that battle.
thank you KATE. You are such a wonderful woman.
Have you got the hots for her?
Outstanding, let's keep that gear flowing to Ukraine. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦💪
seems rare that these tanks ever get close enough to engage one another. at least thus far i havent seen many video's of tank vs tank kills.
tank vs tank is very rare on the modern battlefield
True, tanks need to be very advanced with active protection systems and only used in the most important areas.
The era of tanks is not over. Their role has changed.
In this war, tanks never participated in a defense breakthrough. Now tanks are used in positional battles as mobile artillery. The tank stays camouflaged in shelter ready to fight. The gunners determine the target. The tank comes out of cover and makes two or three shots at the target, after which it again goes into shelter. Within a minute, the enemy does not have time to prepare anti-tank weapons.
From this point of view, old tanks are as effective as new ones. When even one or two tanks are sent to support the infantry, the soldiers are very happy.
it seems weird to think there was ever any Tank vs tank battle. A tank could face any part of the enemy forces and any part of your forces could face the enemy tanks.
There are a few Tank vs Tank videos from Ukraine. But they are rare.
Please also remember drone capabilities and spotting capabilities that are multiplied after last major tank wars. That means, tanks are more easily spotted and taken out with artillery. First videos of Ukraine using tanks in this counteroffensive showed just way too open field tactics, like mining tanks plowing open fields creating black path behind them that can be seen from great distance and then those tanks are just practise targets.
That's just how it is gonna be. Most of Ukraine is an open field and there is no cover apart from the occasional forest or slight incline. The battlefield is also extremely transparent; all units can be targeted at all times. If an unit gets hit by something is more a question of fires availability and ISR reliability.
A black patch in the dirt is the last thing that will give away something like an MBT. This ain't no 1989.
I know where you're coming from, but in the last big armoured battles on this terriatory (German offensives in 1941 then Soviet Offensives in 1943/1944) the enemy was able to use air and ground recon to do the same thing. It's impossible to disguise large armoured thrusts in open flat steppe. Technology has just allowed the spotting and engagement distances to be increased. There's no magic way around the physical reality of lots of big vehicles in open ground being seem.
All three demining tanks also got blown up on mines. There's a reason the Finns gave them away.
@@Withnail1969 That is their job. 0 have been lost, so it was pretty successful as far as failures go.
That's why modern warfare with tanks and IFV need air coverage when assaulting enemies trench systems. But Ukraine doesn't have that much of these systems available and need them to protect the cities.
My goodness.
This guy is so expressive and a great looking grey fellow too.
❤by the way,. I'm Irish and not gay😂😂
An vehicle can have almost zero miles or hours, on it, but because it's old, it has parts that have deteriorated just from sitting there. They still need upkeep and maintenance to be effective.
Superb upload, thanks to the pair of you.
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So when you see the Challengers in action, then you know the counter -offensive has REALLY started in full
An interview with the master communicator Mr David Willey
"Tank beats _everything_ !" - Unnamed UNSC Marine, Halo
I served in the Royal Tank Regiment for 10 years (1984 - 94) in a pure tank battle. The Challenger tank is far superior in every respect compared to the soviet/Russian tanks, but with other weapon systems, i.e., mlrs, artillery fire and maybe drones might cause problems for all types of tanks
If you refer to Iraq, were there T-80s and T-90s being used by Iraqis?
@@ConradAinger No they had T55 and T62 tanks that British Scimitars with 30mm Rarden cannons could knock out, and export model T72s with abysmal crew training it's not something to brag about in all honesty.
@@odinbiflindi No NATO forces have ever experienced what Ukraine is coming up against vs Russia. There is no parallels to be drawn
Consider yourself lucky the Iraqis didn't have KA-52s or you would've been toast. lol
@treize2780 I'm talking about tanks NOT helicopters
At 22:02 Earlier, he accused the Russians of 'coping'... now he's doing it himself by saying: "We have seen some of the Leopards being involved there. We've also seen - completely unverified yet - but it does look like some of those Leopards have already been knocked out."
Two main problems with you hypothesis (1) Tanks rarely battle other tanks ,And (2) western tanks are higher maintenance and if not maintain become very large paper weights ,or targets for shelling , minefields of Air power,
David Wiley knows about tanks, that's for sure!
Tanks are not meant to just destroy tanks. Tanks are multi-role. The first British combat tanks were specifically designed for trench warfare. The strange shape and side mounted guns allowed them to cross trenches and fire into them., Tanks are not the main antitank weapons. There are many other antitank weapons. Tank destroyers are specific antitank weapons. But may be used in other roles in some, safe situations. Tank destroyers do not all have tracks. Some use wheels. Ideally, tank destroyers are cheaper than tanks. Helicopters and aircraft can be effective tank destroyers. Very few aircraft are designed specifically called designed to destroy tanks. In the first Gulf War, US F-111 bombers using laser-guided bombs were one of the most effective tank destroyers. Many attack helicopters have a main antitank role using guided missiles.
Just to make you aware..
The primary role of the Main battle tank is to defeat Enemy Armour.. so the tank IS designed and meant to destroy tanks..
It’s secondary role (however this is operation and battlefield dependant) is to provide intimate support to the infantry.
The tanks your talking about being designed for trench warfare with “strange shape and side mounted guns” was an early day design as no one knew how to provide intimate support to the infantry whilst still having an effect against German tanks..
In addition.. how many Main Battle tanks or IFVs do you see post WW2 that have “strange shape and side mounted guns”?
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My granddad saw first UK tanks in France during 1st. WW.
30 minutes with David Willey, I'm honored, sorry: honoured.
Thank you kate & david for this video i went to bovington tank museum in the 90s if you're in the uk this is a fantastic place to visit!
Well done David
7:03 The autloader was also to keep the tank weight down. One less crew means 25% les space needed for a tank crew member. Of course they needed to place the magazine somewhere so a little less than that. This means even old town bridges can carry the tank where many NATO tanks would have to find another way.
I prefer a blow out panel and a loader on adrenaline. Faster and safer.
Old town bridges that would collapse under a Leopard 2 will also collapse under a T-72. The load limits are more for civil engineering reasons ie: driving 50+ ton vehicles over bridges repeatedly will dramatically decrease their service life.
@@orionide4032 i prefer concrete underground bunker somewhere in switzerland. and forget an adrenaline
I don´t think Leopard 1 is being used in Ukraine yet?
The armour is painfully thin but then so was Scorpion and Scimitar who tended to move too fast to hit.
The Leopard 1 A5 is vastly superior to the original models of the 1970´s, and they were very impressive to us in our lumbering Chieftains.
Correct
Kate doesn't age at all.......great reporter with a real passion for job.
Tanks for the interview
Brillant, informative episode
At 6:05 The Leopard 1 is more comparable to the Soviet T-62 than the later T-64s and T-72s. However, the T-62 had a 115 mm smoothbore (U-5TS) gun as its main armament, which was more powerful than the Leopard's L7.
Power in charge is meaningless when you can't use it with your poorly machined gun.
About 30 of those Leopard 4s have been destroyed by shellfire + the Kornet. The Challenger is being held back after the misery of the leopards being wacked
@@meurigdavies8080 Russian tanks are getting wacked back twice as hard. Truthfully tanks are an outdated concept that require specific circumstances to be utilised.
Still if you had the choice id bet you would rather be in a far superior leopard tank than Russian deathtraps.
If not feel free to enlist and prove me wrong :)
@@linux5136 Give me some numbers, AFU tanks destroyed in the last 20 days is 185. Use figures not what you imagine is true.
@@meurigdavies8080 Leopard 4 ? Tell us about that machine.
Tanks for the review
Wow, what an informative interview! Excellent. Thanks for this.
All being wiped out at an alarming rate
Great interview (from both sides). The Curator's message makes a lot of sense. Ukraine may lose a lot of tanks in its counteroffensive, but that doesn't matter if they retake their territory. This is no different to other examples of war, like D-Day, etc.
dem this is dum if the Russians blow up the tank it is the lost of 3-4 lifes for one Leopard tank so if the personal is dead ore wounded just send in more tank fore the dead? dum dum
The Russians aren't t taking ground, their mission is to demilitarise AFU. Each time the RuF withdraw the AFU rush into the traps set for them as seen in Bakhmut, with 50k AFU killed. In Zaporozhe the same tactic has worked with 25k casualties so far.
@@meurigdavies8080 Anyone who quotes numbers of casualties is lying and/or guessing.
@@hb1338yeh your right the 100,000 Russians apparently killed is laughable! However numbers aside we know what states above is correct and the UAF suffered huge losses in both and of course throughout the course of the conflict and the lack of well trained men is apparent now as they are mainly using conscripts in this offensive and it certainly shows as they can't even break through Russian fighters to even advance to their first line of defence.
"take back their territory" ? First of all that territory has been incorporated into the Russian Federation as per the UN charter through a referendum who overwhelmingly voted for it! So not only is it no longer their territory. But they have 0% chance of that coming back to Ukraine through military force the question is how many more men they will send to die before people come to that realisation! The US/UK will happily supply them and Zalenskyy will keep sending them until the last Ukrainian as they have nothing to lose and Zalenskyy has been giving millions and can flea to his home mansion in Miami. But it's this silly fantasy that needs to end.
Awesome and informative, this journalist did a great job as well as the interviewee.
The leopard one being used is the most interesting part
Brilliant, just brilliant. The interviewer knows her stuff, asks the right questions, and David Willey is the great authoritative expert he always is. Plus he can listen very good and then gives always spot on answers, and, very important in his quiet, gentleman like way of speaking. Thanks for uploading this fantastic video!
Does not matter how good a tank is without air cover its just a big target this statement was proved in WW2 and subsequent wars and its still the same.
Very interesting talk about tanks.. thanks to both of you..
so now Times Radio is doing sales-promos for the industry, good journalism!
@@javierfrancia1938: 0 potatoes for you, Ivan.
Outstanding show.
A great lesson with the Leppard, military surplus still packs a punch
With all them trenches. We need to make a challanger version of the Churchill crocodile for them.
Brutal but VERRY effective.
Infact statistically the most effective bit of kit on the ground in ww2. If I'm not mistaken.
100% record against the most fortified positions.
Yes I agree, but the modern "progressive" liberal elected politicians who have never been in combat would think that idea is "cruel" and "mean"
@@randyboisa6367 you must have missed the memo, liberals are now the pro-war party.
@@randyboisa6367 Yeah thats the Russian advantage. They blast the Ukrainians with banned cluster munitions. While Ukraine stick to the genever convention. I say when they don't stick to the rules. The gloves are off.
However the reason why the crocodiles were so effective.
Theye would spray them once to show there range accuracy. And dam right brutality. And the enemy would surrender.
@@randyboisa6367 This is an inaccurate broad brushstroke. I guess I am a liberal of which you speak. I certainly want any and all fire power unloaded on Putin's minions🇺🇦💪🏻. (fyi: I'm a Buddhist oriented old retired lady in north Florida. Go figure 🤪.)
@@darrenbrians5930no. ukraine doesent and ukraine used the same munitions for years in the donbass bro. Our biased media here in the west just doesent like to report it. But evidence is more than enough online
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Thank museum are the best place to see the tank history.
Great information. Thank you Ma’am!!!
This was a very good episode!
That man sure is a expert on tanks.
that's why he remains because he has street cred.
Love to Ukraine from the UK.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 the world is with you
The world lol you silly or what 😂
@@jayhowell2218l look on😅p lo😅 p😅😅p😅 p00
yeah, except most of the world isn't.
@@gumby2241 exactly well said
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Ruzkyi tr0IIz at work huh ? ;))) Every ruZZky needs a potato to survive ;)))
Very diplomatic and neutral presentation from David Willey, very nice!
As for losses, something not pointed out, is survivability of the crew.
Times Radio, Love that @thetankmuseum has Banners for the Computer Game World of tanks. that fits for it. Love the Video on the tanks that you did.
I love the Tank Museum staff. I would like seeing a review of the fire control systems in use in Ukraine. Often, Western systems (vs late Soviet era gear) can deal with being outnumbered better due to targeting and command and control advantages but I don’t know what that looks like to a given tank commander.
NATO have a real opportunity here to shift off their old defence inventory to the Ukraine to do the fighting against a peer adversary whist putting forward future defence capabilities for their own defence forces. The US for instance have large reserves of older Bradleys and Abrahams which are cheaper to supply to the Ukrainians than incur the de -commission costs of getting rid of them otherwise.
Exactly my thoughts 👍
Are you in hospital....
If the villain zelensky is admitting the Ukraine losses and the western media channels like the Washington posts are confirming the failure of the counter offensive who are you to peddle lies ...
See this
Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive has had no major impact on the frontline of the conflict so far, but has apparently resulted in large equipment losses for Kiev, according to Moscow.
Up to 30% of the heavy equipment supplied to Kiev by its Western backers has been destroyed by Russian troops, President Vladimir Putin said last week.
Almost a dozen videos, mostly published by the Russian Defense Ministry, have surfaced online in recent weeks, showing Ukrainian heavy equipment pieces being successfully targeted by Russian forces.
David there is credible evidence of western tanks being knocked out
Getting the Europeans to send Leo 1 and 2 tanks and IFVs to Ukraine. Sell the Europeans stored ungraded Abrams and Bradleys
@@Idahoguy10157 no one wants Abrams in Europe. Far too thirsty. The US doesn’t need a good tank, as it goes nowhere without superior air power
David Willey!!!
Times Radio is a gem. ♡
so now Times Radio is doing sales-promos for the industry, good journalism!
@@javierfrancia1938
Ukraine is doing the proper thing, trying to help Russia accomplish another first and lose the most tanks in a single conflict in history. I wish them great success! Thank you for the excellent presentation.
Well the challengers and Leopards didn’t last too long. Russia licking their lips waiting to fry the Abrams.
@@seanwalsh4142
While it's true it seems Leoprads have been destroyed, where is your evidence of Challengers destroyed Mr. Ruzzki lickspittle?
@@bbbf09 They're actually Leopards not Leopards but I can't show you photos of challengers because the bits are too small and scattered all over the place.
@@seanwalsh4142 'They're actually Leopards not Leopards...'
That makes no sense!
And the too small pieces and scattered - oh grow up! I gave you a chance to be one. You've revealed at least you are talking BS
@@bbbf09If Challengers were shipped with CHOBHAM i'd say it's a certainty that Britain told the Ukrainian's not to use them in banzai charges into Russian minefields.
Bro your NATO tanks did even manage to reach the first line of Russian defense.....
Like they only fired during the training exercise and never again.
His honesty is superb
Thank you for this video.
Don't forget the invisible t14 armata which is a 69th generation ghost tank that can participate in battle without being in the battle
Well your Leopard tanks are already burning in ukraine, send Your british tanks
@@elcormoran1 : a few leopards, who cares Ivan, plenty more of them exist. That cannot be said of the t14. Take your copium and f 0ff to your parents' basement.
@@elcormoran1the UK have, for this reason, asked Ukraine not to use challengers lest they get taken out like leopards.
T80bvm, T72b3 and T90m are more than adequate for Ukraine.
Newer Western tanks are better than the Russian ones in a tank vs tank fight. Which apparently do not happen very often in Ukraine. They mostly use their tanks against Russians in trenches, trucks, forests or houses.
Tanks have utility simply be existing and stopping APCs and IFVs from operating in their combat radius. The superior optics and FCS is not just for tank-on-tank fights.
I really enjoyed that, good job!