Eddie Butler: Wales leaving the UK, Six Nations | Eoin Sheahan in Wales
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Former rugby player, journalist and commentator Eddie Butler joined Eoin on this morning's OTB AM.
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RIP Eddie, you will always be a legend. Millions are gonna miss that amazing voice. Gone too soon
Nooooo! Rip legend! 🏴
Made not only welsh rugby special but all of rugby! Iconic 😢
Big fan of Eddie butler, your well liked by the Irish Ed, great commentator always loved when he was commentating the welsh games
he is an absolute legend ... could listen to him all day .. his voice and commentary are such a special part of the 6 nations ....A truly Great Rugby Man
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For an outsider (american), what a great summary of Welsh mentality and history. Thanks, RIP Eddie Butler
Great interview , Eddie has such a lovely soothing speaking voice . Eddie and Brian Moore my favourite commentary team .
An interview of a great personality I've been wanting/waiting for for a long time. Fantastic OTB, Eddie Butler Rugby legend. Thank you.
great listen, fantastic voice and a very insightful man
RIP Eddie, one of Gwents finest. Such a sad loss to the rugby community 😢
Great interview. Rewarding departure from the usual pre-match analysis. More like this please 👏
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One of the best pieces of radio I've ever heard. Bravo Newstalk for shining a light on this in the weekend that's in it.
RIP Eddie Buter. Legend ❤️
Sensational interview. Thank you, Eoin and Eddie, for allowing me to embrace my passion for being Welsh. I fear it will take a hammering tomorrow.
You were not wrong. Tough day
@@jonathanphillips5514 Tough day for my head. Only winners Nurofen.
As a young sport fanatic growing up in Wales I was mesmerised by 5 great voices on the tv. Eddie Butler was no question one of them. He will be sorely missed by the rugby community. For the record the other four were Bill McLaren, Murray Walker, John Motson and David Coleman. May they all rest in peace.
Wales is a beautiful place, went to uni in Aberystwyth, my second home
Very interesting what he said about a missing officer class and lack of confidence. Reminds me of Warbs doing a pre Lions show here where he discussed the Irish willing speak and question coaches where as it wasn't as readily done by the Welsh squad members.
Rest in peace,will miss his commentary in the upcoming international games.🙏
R.I.P Eddie Butler former Rugby Union captain of Wales and BBC commentator. So sad to hear of his tragic death today. My deepest condolences goes out to his family and friends. Watching Rugby will never be the same without your wonderful commentary. God bless you Eddie, you’ll be missed by a lot of people 🙏🏽.
A hot coal, in the fire of the dragons belly.
The fire of Wales burns slightly colder this sad time of Eddies passing, but let his smouldering words gestate and rise as passionate in the hearts of others as in the warriors old. Long live the bards of Wales.
Very nice man, lovely voice.
A pure rugby man.
Rest in peace Eddie ☘️
Fantastic speaker, pleasure to listen to.
Eddie understands us so well. RIP Eddie. Lovely man. Yma o Hyd.
Brilliant interview Eoin, well done!
Keep it up OTB, this is top class content and true outside of the box thinking in terms of subject matter for pre match build up
Spot on Eddie, well said from a fellow man of Gwent!
Amazing voice, could listen to Eddie all day
Bill McLaren, Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh, Mícheál O'Hehir and Eddie Butler. Just imagine the four of them on the radio, talking sport.
Three journalists for one interviewee? Butler is very interesting and Eoin is an intelligent journalist who unlike most of his colleagues asks interesting questions, does not speak over and interrupt.
this educated me a little . i thought Newport was still in Gwent after 1974 change . didn't know it changed back to Monmouthshire in 96 . but there again so many welsh counties keep changing . like Merioneth .
Sound man and a brilliant commentator on rugby and many other things.
Rest in peace Eddie truly sad news growing up watching rugby on bbc hearing eddies voice made memories for us all commentary on bbc won’t be the same without him
Love listening to Eddie. Well done Eoin for great interview.
An Irish (north and south) union with Wales would be very interesting 🙂
Most welsh people would agree. And don’t forget, we’ve acted as a natural buffer between you and the english for centuries. You owe us 😉
RIP Eddie, you are a huge loss to Wales, to Broadcasting and just because. Diolch am bopeth ❤
What a lovely interesting conversation.
Eddie will immeasurably be missed for a myriad of reasons. The voice of present day rugby, the understanding of what is Wales and the ease of thought that benefits a genuine poet. We will miss you Eddie and will saviour your words in rugby for eternity x
RIP Eddie you will be sadly missed a great imported Welshman who always showed his pride in Wales! 🏴
His best interview yet…Had Eddie at ease so you get more out of guests if you have a more relaxed style instead of butting in and trying to make a point.
R.I.P.. ...Thanks for the memories big man
I didn't even know he was Welsh, which, in hindsight seems foolish considering his obvious Welsh accent. Love his commentary.
Off The Ball pushing the breakup of Great Britain, imagine my shock.
Nonsense. Asking about it is a long way from pushing it; obviously the sentiment existed before OTB ever looked into Welsh independence.
@@Tellemore Stick to the sportsball
Definitely - on the Ardal O'Hanlon/Enda Brady episode they were dying to get them to criticise the UK and seemed disappointed that they had nothing negative to say.
I imagine they're trying to book Nicola Sturgeon, she will definitely tow the line :D
Eddie Butler such a good man you are sorely missed RIP
My favorite commentator. Top dude, nice job OTB ☘️
Always really enjoyed Eddie commentating on matches. Great voice and accent.
Great listen. Great work Eoin.
Loved this sound man
Hathred between welsh and Irish, where is it? Iv worked with them for decades and NEVER heard it. My mother worked with them in liverpool in 1950s and always remembers them fondly unlike the irish there in management who were detested. Irish and Welsh have a lot of historical similarities that have shaped both nations and lack of self confidence and self help are amongst them.
Celtic nations stick together & any ‘banter’ can be misconstrued but Irish aren’t the enemy unless we are playing against them! 🏉🥰
I wouldn’t say Irish people have a lack of self confidence, definitely not know a days. Historically yes because they were a colonised people. Irish people are always made feel guilty but there is no lack of confidence
Brilliant interview, what an interesting person Eddie Butler is!
Ringer was innocent ❤
RIP Eddie yo will be missed x 🏴🏉❤️🏴
What a brilliant man
A fine man, and though I didnt know him personally, he was a part of my life. The same age as EB, I watched him through his playing days at Pooler and often saw him around Abergavenny. A real loss to Gwent, Wales, and rugby
What an amazing interview and a very nice man
A great and interesting man whose romantism has always captured the Welsh cultural relationship with rugby. Would definitely have Eddie on my fantasy dinner party list.
Eddie butler, victor costello, Jamie heaslip...great thinkers that redesigned the no 8 role ...meant to mention Keiran reed also👍🏻
Well done - 👏
R.I.P Eddie Butler another Legend in Sport suddenly gone but will not be forgotten.
Rip Eddie ❤️
Very enjoyable interview
Great to get to know the man behind the voice. This years Six Nations should be an absolute cracker! Mon Scotland!
What a great interview. Sad loss
RIP. Incredible commentator
Fantastic interview
I’ve always been interested in how they manage to get such higher levels of population who speak Welsh compared to the population of Ireland that speak Irish. I think Irish being taught as a second language in schools has failed, I wonder are Welsh speaking schools more common over there.
Yes we are. Diolch
Yes essentially I don't think second language teaching really works as very little seems to be retained. Schools in the medium of Welsh are available to everyone and have been expanding since they were established as they tend to deliver better academic results.
It's just been a disastrous approach for generations, particularly by government in Ireland to promoting our native language. When you don't hear the language outside of the 40 minutes class you have, when its use by government and in sporting occasions has been reduced to a ceremonial language, and when the dual language street signs have Irish in a smaller lowercase font (I know that traditional Irish is written in lowercase) then as a kid growing it gets into your subconscious that this isn't important (wrongly so imo to be clear). And yeah as Gareth Jones says I think if subjects aren't taught in the native language then it's far more difficult to retain. So I think the ideal for those with kids and who want their kids to learn their native tongue, be it Irish, Welsh or other minority language, then you need to send them if at all possible to a school where that language is the medium of instruction, English is so dominant in the world that they are going to learn that anyway.
Super interesting interview BTW. It didn't initially click with me who Eddie Butler was when I started watching the interview, but definitely a voice that grabs your attention and is easy to listen to.
The desire for political independence from Britain (England?) was always a much stronger force in Ireland than in Wales. For that reason (and others related to emigration, economic isolation etc.) the Irish language was always a subordinate consideration when rebuilding the Irish sense of nationhood. Catholicism was also central to this for a long time, but this seems to have passed, thankfully for many of us.
It seems to me that the Welsh largely accepted being subsumed into Britain after the Reformation (which they mostly accepted) and express their national pride via things like rugby union, music, language etc.
I still don't understand why they voted for Brexit, mind you, but I suspect the large English population within their borders might have tilted the balance there.
Guaranteed on that last point...the stats prove it
Ed is my hero. He is absolutely spot on. I'm from Newport too. We need to leave the UK now!!!
Fantastic interview. Congratulations
Very sad that he's gone.
Butler is correct, Welsh rugby fans really are 80 minute patriots. Complete opposite to the football fans who are patriots 365 days of the year.
RIP Eddie ❤️🙏🏉
Brilliant-a sad loss.
I don't think enough people realise how little Wales receives in investment
Rip Ed gutted big man. Thoughts are with your family. Six nations won’t be the same.
Mellifluous.
RIP, an amazing voice. Rugby lost its voice
31:00 'i keep no junk because next year will be busier than next year (& the next)' 👏🙏
Well said eddie 👏. Brilliantly sums up the current dire exploitative relationship between Wales and Westminister, and why we in Wales need to escape the strangulation of the british state and take charge of our own affairs
No English in here talking about Wales are too small to be independent and for them to stop blaming Westminster but, when it comes to Scotland... OMG!!!
R. I. P EDDIE
THE VOICE
The voice of Rugby, like Peter Alliss with golf, Mark Lawrenson with soccer. RIP
No compaison to the Scots guy Bill MacLaren..
RIP Eddie.
The good ones too often go early.
Should be president of the Welsh republic.
I love my Wales, but living in Germany now. Getting to old to be of any use these days.
The Taffia still exists in Gwynedd. According to them, you are not really Welsh if you are from Flintshire or English speaking parts of Denbighshire. Where I was born English was the first language, but 6 miles up the road Welsh was the first language. I was a victim of my birth ! Ond, dwi’m yn dioddefwr rwan. Dwi’n siarad Cymraeg.
That’s unfortunate to be branded as not Welsh just because you speak a different language, I have family that lives in South Wales and even they get daggers from northern Welsh town’s people it’s quite an issue in our day of being comfortable with differences and diversity we’re more apart then ever before, it’s quite upsetting really, I’m English by the way.
@@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart I'm a non-Welsh speaking Welshman with a very English accent (it's a long story), with a non-Welsh speaking (but Welsh) father and a Welsh-speaking mother. I've mixed in both worlds, and have never felt excluded or made to feel less Welsh by anyone. Just my experience.
@@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart not if those speaking English have had a 500 year history of trying to eradicate the British (Welsh) language. And then they be acting like the victim, like this guy, my heart bleeds for em. Yma O Hyd Cymru!
No, you were the victim of how your Ancestors were abused, and how they were forced to throw away your ancient Language under threat of torture. AS CHILDREN!!!
Eddie Butler beliefs for independance are well respected. Having learn't his rugby as a No 8 for Pontypool, marked him out in Welsh rugby. Solid, fiery and with a good tactical eye.
Hunan Dawel Eddy
Rest in Peace Eddy
R I P Eddie
up the chepstow
His lament for the lack of interest in Welsh independence is v sad...
But admit Wales where a dirty team for years,when Ireland had just doctors chemist solicitors while Wales had big miners.now it's pay back time Eddie but we are friends garland tried to pull us apart garland .but Ireland love Wales and and. Scotland
Interesting. I remember Gatland saying the difference between the Welsh and Irish lads was the Welsh lads just did what they were told but the Irish lads questioned everything .
I thought it was the other way around
@@mauricegarvey4631 100% wasn’t. Seen him say it multiple times
An irishman lying again!!! He said, the Welsh were the most loyal. And would run through brick walls for you.
If you use google you can see exactly what he said. Then come back and apologise :)
@@taffyducks544 taffy the Irish hater once again … keep going taffs
Great look, drinking a pint during interview.
A massive loss for Wales
Strange game…
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Being form the Isle or Wight this kinds of grats .my vote has always been worth less than anyone else's in parliament.the Isle of Wight has 150, 000 voters the smallest Scottish constituency has 26,000. The average Welsh constituency has 57,000.. If any part of the UK hard done bye . Take look at Vectis
Wales will never leave the UK, they love Boris Johnson and Prince Charles way too much for that.
After what boris Johnson has lied about for most of his career even the English don’t like him😑 I honestly wouldn’t blame them for hating him
@@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart That's not quite true, the English loved Bojo, his hair, his lies, his refusal to debate, his stunts, his xenophobia, his incompetence in a pandemic, his cronyism and his corruption. It's only now when they have found out he spent most of 2020 on the lash with his mates in the house they put him in while noone else was allowed do anything, they're starting to get a bit irked.
@@ConnbineHarvester Bit of a sweeping generalisation to say "the english loved him". I think you'll find that there has always been an fervent opposition to him, and that its much more nuanced than you claim.
@@garyambrosini1427 Well he won a landslide election 2 years ago, but you're right, he didn't get 100% of the vote. I'll try to refrain from sweeping generalisations and show more nuance in youtube comments just for you.
The Welsh do not love Boris any more than the (Northern) Irish or Scottish. It is the English who adore(d) Boris and his obviously fake persona and habitual lying.
I wonder does Eddie realise his name has its roots in Ireland?
Butler is a French-Norman/Anglo-Norman/Anglo-Irish-Norman surname. Not indigenous to UK or Ireland I'm afraid
@@fincorrigan7139 still has roots in Ireland dude
@@BoomsRiddico4868 Your original comment was the name "has its roots" in Ireland. It doesn't: It has branches in Ireland. The Butler name in Ireland is primarily associated with the Earls of Ormond, a family so devoid of principle that they flip-flopped their way through history depending on which despotic English Royal would either cut their heads off or pay them more loot (all the way from the Wars of the Roses to 1922) some of them so pernicious they didn't even know they had the title but took the money anyway (see 15th Earl). Given that pedigree I suspect Eddie wouldn't want to be reminded that possible distant cousins were so nefarious in deed.
@@fincorrigan7139 you must be fun at parties?!
The Ormond Butlers. They spoke Irish and used Brehon Law
so sad
Go free and be a brave man.like r ireland
RIP Eddie, v poignant interview.