As someone who played her quite a bit on PBE, I will say that Nashors is no longer a must buy for AP Kat. Stormsurge into Shadowflame into either Liandrys or Riftmaker feels great. Basically, you can play her as full ap burst a lot easier now.
One thing you forgot to mention is that tanks will benefit from champs only be able to buy 1 ad %pen item. You can now only buy Black Cleaver, Dominik or Serylda. And Serylda is a tiny bit worse if you don't buy more lethality.
@@thew26x on the 2 weeks I played on PBE it seem like the only item systematic change Will affect Riven, Aatrox and Hecarim the most since those 3 build both Black Cleaver and Serylda
nice cool. i played one pbe game and didnt really like the new map but i bet its just because i feel nothing when i dont play ranked lmao@@MrDonJuanquis
FINALLY! i've been complaining about this since naafiri's release. an assassin champ, whether that be naafiri or situationally a talon or zed, should not be able to stack 2 %pen items to kill their counter class (tanks). it's like how ADCs are spamming radiant virtue right now to not get one shot - it's unhealthy for the game from a fundamental standpoint.
Unless they updated PBE yesterday, you still can't build IE and Quickblades together. I think another huge note you guys could have made in this video was the changes to zhonya's.
@sifridcrew4168 I think the big change for me is that AP is fucked against AD mids. Renekton into melee AP, for example, was already a winning matchup and now mages have to spend 600 more gold than before for 10 armor. The other, and more likely option, is buying a second cloth armor that they have to sell later. This would have already been an issue WITHOUT the lethality revert.
Yes in pbe I cannot build both IE and navori. There used to be a restriction about navori quivkblades and spear of shojin. I guess it was OP. But in pbe you can now build both.
I don't know if Dan or whoever wrote the script even actually play the game. Half of this video is just complete nonsense. Hardly any of it is accurate or correct. Their explanations about the items and the context around it in the new season are mostly all wrong, but sometimes they couldn't even read the item text properly. 🤦♂
Yep it wasn't proccing , thats why it seems worse than triforce rush. There was a bug in pbe where sundered sky couldn't proc. Would've been dumb to make an item comparison with that bug
Exactly. Like, the bug is 100% Riot's fault, but it's completely inexcusable for the video makers not to realise is was occurring while using it as context for their explanation. Honestly pretty pathetic for how credible they claim they are.@@Shirosaki_Ichigo
Again, you can't build IE and Navori's at once. They're no longer mythic items but they always have been critical strike modifiers just like Guinsoo's. It works the same way as other item types like liveguards like shieldbow, Sterak's or Malmortius, you can't combine them. If I was able to build both items (that option is not able, as I said, tested it out already) I could get to stack both damage amplifiers from critical strike on both Q and R on Samira (65% bonus damage in R since Q only applies the 25% of the bonus damage on critical strike, still applies the whole bonification of Navori's). So as a Samira OTP I guess I should be still searching for a viable build.
Doubt so, they both are still crit modifiers (no one has ever been able to build both Guinsoo's and IE, just like as a melee you can't purchase Runaan's or combine Sterak's and Malmortius). And even so (in the case that game lets you) you would loose the Navori's passive due to Guinsoo's one as you loose all your crit. Try it on PBE, one of both should happen.
Navori and IE are mutally excusive, but guinsoo isn't anymore, since it doesn't remove your crit for extra on-hit, but you can't build IE and Navori, tried it like 2 days ago on PBE.
@@karaparejamatesanz4710 You literally can, Rageblade is reverted to pre mythic so it is not a crit modifier, people before the mythic system always built rage IE
I started playing league the season mythic items joined, so I don't know the optimal way to build without mythics. Therefore, this guide was pretty helpful for me!
Riot: "We want to give mages more item opportunities and diversify their options." Instead: "Removing valuable enough ap items; making the craziest magic resist item." Ffs, void staff should be buffed to 50% mp, no joke.
Void staff actually got nerfed because it costs more. It giving more ap doesn’t make up for the fact that you need 200 more gold to access the magic pen
Around 1:40, when they're talking about the sundered sky vs triforce comparison, the empowered sundered sky auto actually isn't triggering on the target dummy, otherwise it would look fairly equal if not closer to the sundered sky damage.
For folks watching this post-S14 launch here's some things that I think are worth noting, but weren't covered here (probably because of things being slightly different on PBE, or maybe I just have different priorities lol): RIFTMAKER - Riftmaker has Demonic Embrace's old bonus hp -> ap conversion passive. - Riftmaker's Omnivamp now applies at 100% for AoE and Pet damage (can't find the previous value for how much it was reduced by for those) - Riftmaker's damage ramp passive stacks with Liandry's damage ramp passive. Unsure if it's multiplicative or additive. Assume additive. - Thoughts: these changes make Rift an attractive option for folks like Swain and Vlad and other mages that want a survivability oriented option for ability haste MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ITEMS - Infinity Edge and Navori Quickblades are mutually exclusive "critical strike capstone items" like they were before being made mythics. - Terminus, Lord Dominik's Regards, Mortal Reminder, and Serylda's Grudge are all mutually exclusive "armor penetration capstone items" (the latter 3 were before, Terminus is new). Terminus should probably be more evaluated against these choices than as a rush item. Given its stats, it's probably best on hybrid damage dealers; folks that value the attack speed over crit chance or slow; and folks that want extra survivability. - Spellbalde items (Essence Reaver, Iceborn Gauntlet, Trinity Force, and Lichbane) are all mutually exclusive. No big deal here. Worth re-iterating that point about Sundered Sky *not* being a spellblade item, so it works with any of the others. GUINSOO'S RAGEBLADE - Guinsoo's no longer converts crit and can be built with either IE or Navori (IE and Quickblade are mutually exclusive) - With crit no longer being converted, this means the on hit is a max of 30 as opposed to the previous max of 180 at 100% crit. More realistically, the on hit was maxing around 120 with three crit items since most users would pick up other on-hit effects over crit chance. - Rageblade's extra-on-hit effect works with Krakenslayer's passive again - Thoughts: Rageblade's crit-to-on-hit-dmg conversion going away is probably a bit of a wash in terms of raw dps for most of the game, probably a slight dps loss early, then more dps later, particularly with a crit kapstone item. It'd be a lot of math to figure out the actual damage gain/loss from no longer converting crit. Many Rageblade users were already taking Kraken, so this is a straight buff to them. Rageblade with crit allows a lot of folks to have their cake and eat it too. Akshan and Vayne in particular come to mind. Akshan has crit chance scaling on his ult that he can benefit from while building rage blade, already builds kraken, and can still build an IE to ramp up crit even more. Vayne's q damage can crit, which she no longer gives up with rageblade; she already likes Kraken; and an IE later on adds some gross burst potential. TENACITY ITEMS - Sterak's Gauge no longer gives 30% tenacity when the shield pops, instead it has a flat 20% tenacity as a main stat. Probably an overall buff. - Wit's End was reworked a good bit. It no longer gives AD and the movement speed on-hit was removed. It now grants more attack speed and MR, and includes 20% tenacity as a main stat. On-hit damage was unchanged. I think this effectively changes it from a hybrid damage-defensive item to more purely defensive. It's one of the few ways to add tenacity to your build if you really don't want to give up berserker greaves (Yasuo, Yone, ADC's), but you're not gaining much in the way of damage unless you're heavily leaned into on-hit effects already. Might allow you to forgo another attack speed item for a bigger damage item elsewhere in your build. There's a lot going on in this season's changes. This was a great video summing up a lot of it. Me writing this stuff out is mainly just organizing my thoughts for myself, but if someone else gets value out of it, awesome.
ROA into liandry into riftmaker then cosmic drive will be my initial build on lillia i think. Will see what other lillia mains do and adapt as the season goes
@@felix90708 I think she will still be good but not too broken cuz Liandry and riftmaker along with her max health burn and true damage in her kit is still good. We'll have to see how good it is in live servers tho
Elite500 is playing Riftmaker into Liandry's into Deathcap on Vlad and its very strong as Vladimir's passive converts HP to AP and vice versa, and he has always done well in extended fights making the passives on both Riftmaker and Liandry's very strong on him. Cosmi Drive into Protbelt is another alternative depending on your playstyle, but having like 4k health end game on a mage like Vlad feels so good
I've tried Malignance on Brand as it can also apply the passive to everyone it hits and Rylai's second to keep them in the zone (5 zones making a HUGE zone), Liandry's third.
@@elbigotesdelatienda Oh i didn't mean you should skip liandy's but I do think after the 3 item combo of liandry, malignance and rylais you are basically unstoppible
I personally tried to do Storm Surge first (playing akali) .. it was ok but something was missing (was also playing against galio mid w aftershock)... it was ok dmg on everyone except galio ... my final build was Surge , pen boots, Belt, Shadow, Bloom and Dcap .. later switched bloom for Void stuff ... but still surge wasnt as good as they hyped it up to be .. electrocute runes w triumph and coup de grace as well .. maybe just bc the first match
LISTEN MAGES!!! Now that mythic passives are removed don’t be afraid of going lost chapter into a separate item that doesn’t build it. Just to sustain mana in early game!!!! Don’t be afraid to patch work really strong comp items together
I was using voltaik cyclosword + profane hydra on khazix and I almost one shot everyone easily. You can reduce into half hp of squishy champs just by using voltaik cyclosword alone. Amazing items , you don't even need collector to one shot squish champs.
you can´t build navori an IE at the same time and also de comparison between trinity and the new item is wrong cause the pasive of the new item is not active on the dummy
I would argue against Malzahar rushing Malignance tbh. Liandry's has been core for Malzahar to actually do any meaningful amount of damage, and malignance simply doesn't provide enough for him, considering he does piss poor damage without Liandry's. Malzahar might gravitate towards getting an early tear for mana sustain, and still opt towards rushing liandry's and rylai's.
You still cant buy infinity and navori. And its not because they are mythics, but because they have a unique effect like sterak or maw, so either you just mistaken, or you dont really play the game)
Think the first test of Sky is bug. If your first build the item and them genetare the dummy, dont proc the extra damage. You notice it cause it should be a crit, but instead just normal aa
Wait holy shit I'm in a skillcap video! That section talking about AP jungles with the Diana gameplay I was the Senna in that game lmao. I was watching and saw the Senna walk into the jungle and die and was like, "Yup same" but then I saw a Xayah and was like, "Hey wait a second, I remember that exact thing happening to me."and then I saw it was Star Guardian Senna and I was like, "Wait that's actually me!" I saw the rotation into the jungle and I thought, "I bet you they are just waiting in the bush to catch me rotating, I've seen Skill capped's videos." But I still took the 50/50 and walked in and sure enough, there was the Diana lol
I think this is incorrect 19:20 you actually cant buy IE and quickblades together. There's a few items that actually do that as well. No Immortal shieldbow with Maw. Which makes sense as their passives are the same. I think IE mistakenly has it's passive missing?
Wondering about what ap Shaco jg is gonna build now... Also guess Fiddle will be like the second Nocturne: even autofilled jungler does have a chance of winning as him bcs of how strong his kit is, and new items seem to be in his favor as well ( 40% of my matches being against nocturne only prove that right)
Well for once I got exactly the info I needed, the buy order for Fiddle. I spotted Malignance as a must buy as soon it was revealed but wasn't sure where to put it in his rocketbelt/Zhonya core. Overall and without the stopwatch rune it feels a bit like a nerf, or at least less power spike. I'll miss the early tower dive with stopwatch.
Solstice slay would be more of an enchanter item...it'll proc on soraka Q, janna W, lulu Q, W or R, Sona E auto or Ult, maybe not so much on milio unless youre good at landing Q, and it will scale off of the heal+shield power they normally build, also gives them movement speed as well to kite. Sure it'll be good on engage supports as well but idk why highlight them over enchanters.
If anything the sheen support item will be lovely in the hands of engage champs like nautilus, leona and thresh, as it will make their damage in lane that much more oppressive, while also boosting their ally dps for free (Though I feel Thresh would like the damage reduction more since it allows for more playmaking potential)
Cryptbloom has 15Haste and Void Staff has none! The tradeoff is +15Haste and the Heal-on-takedown proc for 10AP and 10% MagicPen There is a lot more AP in the item system now, and significantly less Haste on Mage items, so 10AP isn't much at all to miss out on for 15Haste. My first ARAM Ziggs build had 1528AP just in his inventory at full build, without calculating in any runes or the elixir, or the Deathcap amp on those. And that was going with Cryptbloom and Banshee's. If you want to go Banshee's, then the opportunity cost of not picking up Haste in that slot makes the Haste on Cryptbloom even more attractive. So against Squishies who might build Maw or Wits or Banshees, but you can still try to burst them in skirmishes and fights where you have some help, you get your second rotation up faster and heal your Frontline to keep going. Against tanks it's going to depend on the math between the extra pen on VoidStaff and the extra Haste to poke at them with a Liandry's build. Most Liandry's users are battlemages now instead of burst mages like Ziggs and Lux who really want Horizon Focus, Stormsurge and potentially then Shadowflame if they're able to be dealing the last damage to targets rather than initial poke, but I definitely still took Cryptbloom on Ziggs in at least the ARAM game I played him, to spam more area control and bombs. And he could still take Liandry's if there are enough tanks, or that is the only person he can safely hit reliably. Being able to take buffed FoN and Rook into his minefield is going to make controlling tanks a nightmare if they're allowed to stack MR instead of Armor, though.
Why do I feel like Sundered Sky might work on Jhin with that guaranteed crit for his lethality build? Would be good poke for his early game at the least.
Don't rush stridebreaker on Aatrox! It's a situational item that works best against ADC's top and teams that have too much range! You want to prioritize Sundered sky for short trades, since it stacks with his AA passive. You can also build Trinity force when dealing with long fights!
Any suggestions for galio mid? I know he's more a support-y magic tank who does a lot of ap damage and with the removal of everfrost the only thing I can think of the rush would be ROA, but what would his other 2 core items be?
Ban ap champs, take double magic resist in runse, tenacity boots every game, at least 1 or 2 magic resist item that are make u tank or anti burst for mages. (every game until sp item get balanced)
You cant build infinity and Quickblades on the same build. I tried it on Nilah and it wouldnt let me since both have "crit modifier" unique passive on them.
I found it quite funny, whenever Liandrys was brought up as a "it is no longer [...} because it no longer provides any Mana" XD Basically "Liandrys Bad first cuz no Mana!"
if you actually paid attention to the video you'd see they said it isn't viable as a RUSH OPTION, because it really isn't. playing any mage and building a first item with no mana is bonkers
That's more or less how it is though... a lot of Mages rely on starting with a Mana Crystal and Refillables to accelerate their Lost Chapter power-spike, because funnily enough, their source of damage is their abilities, which require Mana. Liandry's not having a Lost Chapter component means that it's not a good rush item because then you go OOM and give up Mid prio around early Drakes/Void Grubs.
for the newbs out there, Stormsurge is just a revived DFG... and it won't last 2 months, because it was broken back then and it will be now, even more.
i feel like Jax will abuse the Trinity Titanic combo, that made him OP 4 years ago, also he might become a good jungler again with the old tiamant. Going full tank after those 2 items.
Does anyone know why you can't buy certain items together? If you buy something another items or a couple might get locked. I hovered over things, looked at passives, but nothing tells me why that occurs. It's like buying a mythic, then the other mythics would be locked unless you sold your current one.
Isnt hecarim crazy op with this new MS Lethalyty Item. Cause of his Passiv to gain AD from MS. Its like free a teamfight win after killing the first takedown, right?
Experimental Hexplate would be interesting to see on Zeri since it gives you the stats that Zeri ult gives you, so you'd basically be able to create a better Zeri ult. So something along the lines of BORK into Hexplate maybe even with the new Titanic Hydra would be interesting. Bruiser items on Zeri are not a foreign concept and in pretty much every patch there's a new Bruiser build for her, so it'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.
that item should never had been in the game lmao. as a toplane bruiser player, i can tell you that blowing your whole rotation on a mage when you arent behind in items and seeing them lose only 25% of their hp is not it.
One thing to note about sundered sky Camille, the sundered sky proc does not make her Q2 crit, it seems like a bait item for the champ because of this, I could be wrong tho because it’s still good if you r auto then Q
@@ShadowRaZeV1 the passive of sundered sky is that ur first auto Crits for 150% dmg and heals for a bit, I immediately tried it on Camille but if ur first auto is a Q2, it does normal damage and it’s like u don’t have the item because Camille’s Q can’t crit
Oh holy shit. That's definitely an awful interaction. I guess this is where Riot's bad coding of what is considered a "crit" is. Cam Q2 is not supposed to crit because of the crit builds people did when she first came out. But stuff like Sundered Sky isn't actually a crit, it's just bonus damage that is kind of coded like a crit but is completely different. I'm pretty sure it should 100% still work on her Q2. Riot needs to fix that shit quickly before release. They might have just overlooked it and not realised. That's what I'm hoping at least. Because the item in general does seem pretty good on her if they fix this interaction. @@davidleone6509
I cant wait for season 14, I dont care about the build I am supposed to take Imma do a little experiment maybe making bruisers tankier but still do masive damage
Maybe a late option but won't be core as she'll be even more useless without her ult due to losing too much damage on other abilities if you take it early.
Morello being that cheap will just lead to mid laners picking it up as a cheap second item to get ahead of the curve and snowball. It has insane stats for 2200 gold. Currently the Umbral Glaive is already being built on basically all AD assassin champs and some ADC's for how strong it is and that at 109% efficient. Trust me on this, mid lane mage will use morello way better than support mages ever can.
@@skillcapped hey skill, could you give a suggestion for a strong build that will be viable for ryze in the new season, I hope he returns to the game now with new items
I would love to see them reverting items back, this season is boring. As ARAM player, build diversity on champions went down hill. Season 11, 12 was so fun and that was because of items. I don't even want to touch many champions anymore. This is so sad.
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You still can't build navori and infinity edge
can you make a video on the current state of jungle and how ppl are going two top?
Where does Asol fit (with xerath etc ?)
Can't wait to play kat and having 8k hp, 250-300 armour and mr and 250 magic shield oneshoting everyone.
Thats me and my Gwen ❤😂
As someone who played her quite a bit on PBE, I will say that Nashors is no longer a must buy for AP Kat. Stormsurge into Shadowflame into either Liandrys or Riftmaker feels great. Basically, you can play her as full ap burst a lot easier now.
@@atomic028 Yeah, AP build in s14 is gona be much better then s13. But this tank shit isinsane.
@@atomic028Did they really nerf nashors to just give 15 on hit damage with no ap scaling? I read that somewhere but find it hard to believe.
every time they add new items to this game i permaban kat for a few patches until they at least try nerfing whatever broken shit she’s doing now
One thing you forgot to mention is that tanks will benefit from champs only be able to buy 1 ad %pen item.
You can now only buy Black Cleaver, Dominik or Serylda. And Serylda is a tiny bit worse if you don't buy more lethality.
dang i didnt know that. are there any more build restrictions you know about?
@@thew26x on the 2 weeks I played on PBE it seem like the only item systematic change
Will affect Riven, Aatrox and Hecarim the most since those 3 build both Black Cleaver and Serylda
nice cool. i played one pbe game and didnt really like the new map but i bet its just because i feel nothing when i dont play ranked lmao@@MrDonJuanquis
this is honestly a terrible change for bruisers, but it seems like everything is unless you're garen or darius.
FINALLY! i've been complaining about this since naafiri's release. an assassin champ, whether that be naafiri or situationally a talon or zed, should not be able to stack 2 %pen items to kill their counter class (tanks). it's like how ADCs are spamming radiant virtue right now to not get one shot - it's unhealthy for the game from a fundamental standpoint.
Unless they updated PBE yesterday, you still can't build IE and Quickblades together. I think another huge note you guys could have made in this video was the changes to zhonya's.
for zhonya's they did cover it briefly with fizz with the increased AP (Unless they changed it again on pbe ?)
Yea this script must be kinda old because IE +Navori was only a thing for a few days
Indeed, on that part of video. You can not equip both due to its unique lable on the top right of their descriptions. Would be wicked xD
@sifridcrew4168 I think the big change for me is that AP is fucked against AD mids. Renekton into melee AP, for example, was already a winning matchup and now mages have to spend 600 more gold than before for 10 armor. The other, and more likely option, is buying a second cloth armor that they have to sell later. This would have already been an issue WITHOUT the lethality revert.
Man they are so good at making you improve they didn't even realize you can't build it and quickblade
Ok that Maokai at 5:20 that took zero damage from the lux combo was hilarious.
a 5 level gap will do that
Could also be that lux ain't even building right lol. We don't even know if that maokai has the item and lux just sucks lol.
Lvl 13 lux deal 0 vs lvl 18 tank. I wonder why...
@@PyroAquaVentusDragonhe had the mmr item
19:24
Naoris and Infinite Edge are exclusive towards each other btw so no, you cannot build them at the same time.
Yes in pbe I cannot build both IE and navori.
There used to be a restriction about navori quivkblades and spear of shojin. I guess it was OP. But in pbe you can now build both.
Not only that, but ironically part of the reason for that was because of how broken Samira was getting those 2 items as her rush.
Good point. You can tell who does their homework and who doesn't when it comes to these "guide" videos. 🤦🏿♂️
They're both crit modifiers, so you can only have one crit modifier item
Sundered Sky has a 6 second CD *per target.*
At 1:04, on the left clip, it's obviously not procing (no crit, no healing)...
And you can make that CD lower with runes
I don't know if Dan or whoever wrote the script even actually play the game. Half of this video is just complete nonsense. Hardly any of it is accurate or correct. Their explanations about the items and the context around it in the new season are mostly all wrong, but sometimes they couldn't even read the item text properly. 🤦♂
@@ShadowRaZeV1Agreed. They didn't even know that you can't build Navori + IE in the same build. 🤦🏿♂️
Yep it wasn't proccing , thats why it seems worse than triforce rush. There was a bug in pbe where sundered sky couldn't proc. Would've been dumb to make an item comparison with that bug
Exactly. Like, the bug is 100% Riot's fault, but it's completely inexcusable for the video makers not to realise is was occurring while using it as context for their explanation. Honestly pretty pathetic for how credible they claim they are.@@Shirosaki_Ichigo
Again, you can't build IE and Navori's at once. They're no longer mythic items but they always have been critical strike modifiers just like Guinsoo's. It works the same way as other item types like liveguards like shieldbow, Sterak's or Malmortius, you can't combine them. If I was able to build both items (that option is not able, as I said, tested it out already) I could get to stack both damage amplifiers from critical strike on both Q and R on Samira (65% bonus damage in R since Q only applies the 25% of the bonus damage on critical strike, still applies the whole bonification of Navori's). So as a Samira OTP I guess I should be still searching for a viable build.
You can, however, buy Rage + Navori or Rage + IE which might be what a lot of on hits do a la season 8-9
Doubt so, they both are still crit modifiers (no one has ever been able to build both Guinsoo's and IE, just like as a melee you can't purchase Runaan's or combine Sterak's and Malmortius). And even so (in the case that game lets you) you would loose the Navori's passive due to Guinsoo's one as you loose all your crit. Try it on PBE, one of both should happen.
Navori and IE are mutally excusive, but guinsoo isn't anymore, since it doesn't remove your crit for extra on-hit, but you can't build IE and Navori, tried it like 2 days ago on PBE.
Yeah so fk all for ADC's in the new patch. yay
@@karaparejamatesanz4710 You literally can, Rageblade is reverted to pre mythic so it is not a crit modifier, people before the mythic system always built rage IE
Me trying to incorporate item knowledge to my gameplay:😵💫
Thanks Ezreal Very Cool
I started playing league the season mythic items joined, so I don't know the optimal way to build without mythics. Therefore, this guide was pretty helpful for me!
Riot: "We want to give mages more item opportunities and diversify their options."
Instead: "Removing valuable enough ap items; making the craziest magic resist item."
Ffs, void staff should be buffed to 50% mp, no joke.
Or they should let us build void and crypt bloom at the same time
@@thuroria7631 Yeah I was looking at the mage items and it does seem there is more diversity this time around
Void staff actually got nerfed because it costs more. It giving more ap doesn’t make up for the fact that you need 200 more gold to access the magic pen
Around 1:40, when they're talking about the sundered sky vs triforce comparison, the empowered sundered sky auto actually isn't triggering on the target dummy, otherwise it would look fairly equal if not closer to the sundered sky damage.
For folks watching this post-S14 launch here's some things that I think are worth noting, but weren't covered here (probably because of things being slightly different on PBE, or maybe I just have different priorities lol):
RIFTMAKER
- Riftmaker has Demonic Embrace's old bonus hp -> ap conversion passive.
- Riftmaker's Omnivamp now applies at 100% for AoE and Pet damage (can't find the previous value for how much it was reduced by for those)
- Riftmaker's damage ramp passive stacks with Liandry's damage ramp passive. Unsure if it's multiplicative or additive. Assume additive.
- Thoughts: these changes make Rift an attractive option for folks like Swain and Vlad and other mages that want a survivability oriented option for ability haste
MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ITEMS
- Infinity Edge and Navori Quickblades are mutually exclusive "critical strike capstone items" like they were before being made mythics.
- Terminus, Lord Dominik's Regards, Mortal Reminder, and Serylda's Grudge are all mutually exclusive "armor penetration capstone items" (the latter 3 were before, Terminus is new). Terminus should probably be more evaluated against these choices than as a rush item. Given its stats, it's probably best on hybrid damage dealers; folks that value the attack speed over crit chance or slow; and folks that want extra survivability.
- Spellbalde items (Essence Reaver, Iceborn Gauntlet, Trinity Force, and Lichbane) are all mutually exclusive. No big deal here. Worth re-iterating that point about Sundered Sky *not* being a spellblade item, so it works with any of the others.
GUINSOO'S RAGEBLADE
- Guinsoo's no longer converts crit and can be built with either IE or Navori (IE and Quickblade are mutually exclusive)
- With crit no longer being converted, this means the on hit is a max of 30 as opposed to the previous max of 180 at 100% crit. More realistically, the on hit was maxing around 120 with three crit items since most users would pick up other on-hit effects over crit chance.
- Rageblade's extra-on-hit effect works with Krakenslayer's passive again
- Thoughts: Rageblade's crit-to-on-hit-dmg conversion going away is probably a bit of a wash in terms of raw dps for most of the game, probably a slight dps loss early, then more dps later, particularly with a crit kapstone item. It'd be a lot of math to figure out the actual damage gain/loss from no longer converting crit. Many Rageblade users were already taking Kraken, so this is a straight buff to them. Rageblade with crit allows a lot of folks to have their cake and eat it too. Akshan and Vayne in particular come to mind. Akshan has crit chance scaling on his ult that he can benefit from while building rage blade, already builds kraken, and can still build an IE to ramp up crit even more. Vayne's q damage can crit, which she no longer gives up with rageblade; she already likes Kraken; and an IE later on adds some gross burst potential.
TENACITY ITEMS
- Sterak's Gauge no longer gives 30% tenacity when the shield pops, instead it has a flat 20% tenacity as a main stat. Probably an overall buff.
- Wit's End was reworked a good bit. It no longer gives AD and the movement speed on-hit was removed. It now grants more attack speed and MR, and includes 20% tenacity as a main stat. On-hit damage was unchanged. I think this effectively changes it from a hybrid damage-defensive item to more purely defensive. It's one of the few ways to add tenacity to your build if you really don't want to give up berserker greaves (Yasuo, Yone, ADC's), but you're not gaining much in the way of damage unless you're heavily leaned into on-hit effects already. Might allow you to forgo another attack speed item for a bigger damage item elsewhere in your build.
There's a lot going on in this season's changes. This was a great video summing up a lot of it. Me writing this stuff out is mainly just organizing my thoughts for myself, but if someone else gets value out of it, awesome.
Great breakdown ty
Im a zilean and ivern main but i played my first match today and was so lost. This helped me a bit. So appreciated the content
ROA into liandry into riftmaker then cosmic drive will be my initial build on lillia i think. Will see what other lillia mains do and adapt as the season goes
it sounds like new season is a nerf for lilia. She was a good pick against tanks but now demonic removed and tanks are buffend by heavy mr items.
@@felix90708 I think she will still be good but not too broken cuz Liandry and riftmaker along with her max health burn and true damage in her kit is still good. We'll have to see how good it is in live servers tho
Elite500 is playing Riftmaker into Liandry's into Deathcap on Vlad and its very strong as Vladimir's passive converts HP to AP and vice versa, and he has always done well in extended fights making the passives on both Riftmaker and Liandry's very strong on him. Cosmi Drive into Protbelt is another alternative depending on your playstyle, but having like 4k health end game on a mage like Vlad feels so good
Cryptbloom sounds like it has a lot of potential on AP assassins/bruisers.
Champs like Sylas, Rumble and Ekko could make some good use out of it.
I've tried Malignance on Brand as it can also apply the passive to everyone it hits and Rylai's second to keep them in the zone (5 zones making a HUGE zone), Liandry's third.
Even if the other option had more stats and greater damage output, it seems just right to build the burning area item to the burning mage
yea that item together with rylais will also be core on rumble i feel like
@@The_oli4 Rumble doesn't use mana. Liandry's rush on Rumble like some time ago.
@@elbigotesdelatienda Oh i didn't mean you should skip liandy's but I do think after the 3 item combo of liandry, malignance and rylais you are basically unstoppible
so essentially we need an item banning phase before picking champs now
I personally tried to do Storm Surge first (playing akali) .. it was ok but something was missing (was also playing against galio mid w aftershock)... it was ok dmg on everyone except galio ... my final build was Surge , pen boots, Belt, Shadow, Bloom and Dcap .. later switched bloom for Void stuff ... but still surge wasnt as good as they hyped it up to be .. electrocute runes w triumph and coup de grace as well .. maybe just bc the first match
We need a 14.1 tier list based on your thoughts ❤
5:15 keep in mind maokai who took absolutely no dmg from full lux combo would tale 50-70% of her health bar in one combo btw :D
lvl 18 full build jgl vs lvl 13 sup diff tbf
LISTEN MAGES!!! Now that mythic passives are removed don’t be afraid of going lost chapter into a separate item that doesn’t build it. Just to sustain mana in early game!!!! Don’t be afraid to patch work really strong comp items together
I was using voltaik cyclosword + profane hydra on khazix and I almost one shot everyone easily. You can reduce into half hp of squishy champs just by using voltaik cyclosword alone. Amazing items , you don't even need collector to one shot squish champs.
Was hoping they would talk about the Sword of Blossoming Dawn. It seems like it could be strong but idk how I would incorporate it.
you can´t build navori an IE at the same time and also de comparison between trinity and the new item is wrong cause the pasive of the new item is not active on the dummy
I would argue against Malzahar rushing Malignance tbh. Liandry's has been core for Malzahar to actually do any meaningful amount of damage, and malignance simply doesn't provide enough for him, considering he does piss poor damage without Liandry's. Malzahar might gravitate towards getting an early tear for mana sustain, and still opt towards rushing liandry's and rylai's.
I think you're dramatically underestimating both the Malignance passive's damage increase and the effect of the ultimate haste.
4:16 wtf was that lux Q lol 🤣🤣
You still cant buy infinity and navori. And its not because they are mythics, but because they have a unique effect like sterak or maw, so either you just mistaken, or you dont really play the game)
Yeah. None of the people who made this video have any idea how the game works.
How did they miss discussing the modified Zeke's Convergence. Thing is going to be insane on supports like Rell and Rakan.
It instantly procs fioras ult , probably not that great for the stats but maybe you could buy it later
Because no one cares about sup
you mentioned that you can build both quick blade and IE, but in truth you can only build 1
Ain't no way Akali is building Rocketbelt if it'll only have 60 AP and No MPEN.
Yeah it’s shadowflame storm surge I’d say
imagine hitting r2 on someone while having shadowflame
Think the first test of Sky is bug. If your first build the item and them genetare the dummy, dont proc the extra damage. You notice it cause it should be a crit, but instead just normal aa
Infinity Edge and Navori cant be stacked, even though theyre not mythics, they are crit modifier item and can only buy 1 of those
what about qiyana jungle?
I'm a miss double burn builds.😥Old Liandrys & Demonic Embrace together was really fun on some champs.
Wait holy shit I'm in a skillcap video! That section talking about AP jungles with the Diana gameplay I was the Senna in that game lmao. I was watching and saw the Senna walk into the jungle and die and was like, "Yup same" but then I saw a Xayah and was like, "Hey wait a second, I remember that exact thing happening to me."and then I saw it was Star Guardian Senna and I was like, "Wait that's actually me!"
I saw the rotation into the jungle and I thought, "I bet you they are just waiting in the bush to catch me rotating, I've seen Skill capped's videos." But I still took the 50/50 and walked in and sure enough, there was the Diana lol
For Akali I think Stormsurge rush into Shadowflame would be a lot better for the snowball
When is season 14 live ?
10th of January
I think this is incorrect 19:20 you actually cant buy IE and quickblades together.
There's a few items that actually do that as well. No Immortal shieldbow with Maw. Which makes sense as their passives are the same. I think IE mistakenly has it's passive missing?
Wondering about what ap Shaco jg is gonna build now...
Also guess Fiddle will be like the second Nocturne: even autofilled jungler does have a chance of winning as him bcs of how strong his kit is, and new items seem to be in his favor as well ( 40% of my matches being against nocturne only prove that right)
Incoming Nocturne nerf
@@lockerroomtalk97 he only got buffed recently instead
I main Rengar and Poppy right now in emerald, might add Noc to the mix@@rl55555
You play Shaco AND fiddle?
Jesus, you're disgusting
Nocturne is going to be very strong as the map makes it harder to gank now and he pretty much bypasses that. Will prob be my ban.
19:25 IE and NQB cannot be built together. They are both "Crit Modifier" items so mutually exclusive.
Well for once I got exactly the info I needed, the buy order for Fiddle. I spotted Malignance as a must buy as soon it was revealed but wasn't sure where to put it in his rocketbelt/Zhonya core.
Overall and without the stopwatch rune it feels a bit like a nerf, or at least less power spike.
I'll miss the early tower dive with stopwatch.
Solstice slay would be more of an enchanter item...it'll proc on soraka Q, janna W, lulu Q, W or R, Sona E auto or Ult, maybe not so much on milio unless youre good at landing Q, and it will scale off of the heal+shield power they normally build, also gives them movement speed as well to kite. Sure it'll be good on engage supports as well but idk why highlight them over enchanters.
If anything the sheen support item will be lovely in the hands of engage champs like nautilus, leona and thresh, as it will make their damage in lane that much more oppressive, while also boosting their ally dps for free (Though I feel Thresh would like the damage reduction more since it allows for more playmaking potential)
Cryptbloom has 15Haste and Void Staff has none!
The tradeoff is +15Haste and the Heal-on-takedown proc for 10AP and 10% MagicPen
There is a lot more AP in the item system now, and significantly less Haste on Mage items, so 10AP isn't much at all to miss out on for 15Haste.
My first ARAM Ziggs build had 1528AP just in his inventory at full build, without calculating in any runes or the elixir, or the Deathcap amp on those. And that was going with Cryptbloom and Banshee's. If you want to go Banshee's, then the opportunity cost of not picking up Haste in that slot makes the Haste on Cryptbloom even more attractive.
So against Squishies who might build Maw or Wits or Banshees, but you can still try to burst them in skirmishes and fights where you have some help, you get your second rotation up faster and heal your Frontline to keep going.
Against tanks it's going to depend on the math between the extra pen on VoidStaff and the extra Haste to poke at them with a Liandry's build. Most Liandry's users are battlemages now instead of burst mages like Ziggs and Lux who really want Horizon Focus, Stormsurge and potentially then Shadowflame if they're able to be dealing the last damage to targets rather than initial poke, but I definitely still took Cryptbloom on Ziggs in at least the ARAM game I played him, to spam more area control and bombs. And he could still take Liandry's if there are enough tanks, or that is the only person he can safely hit reliably.
Being able to take buffed FoN and Rook into his minefield is going to make controlling tanks a nightmare if they're allowed to stack MR instead of Armor, though.
Should you go for Stormsurge over Shadowflame for Leblanc AP?
19:14 - You _literally_ cannot build Navori and IE at the same time.
Did you guys even play the patch before making this video...?
How people going to build galio mid? I went everfront then MR or AR depending on enemy team comp
Can you buy both "tear" items again? If so, Ezreal could be back on top
I don't think so.
Why do I feel like Sundered Sky might work on Jhin with that guaranteed crit for his lethality build? Would be good poke for his early game at the least.
wouldn't surprise me tbh
u forgot about lethailty adcs getting alot of new stuff. Miss fortune looks op this patch.
what would i build as ksante/ tham top
What about a champion like Azir? Would he go something like Nashor's into Ludens?
Why is reworked riftmaker absent from this entire video?
Don't rush stridebreaker on Aatrox!
It's a situational item that works best against ADC's top and teams that have too much range!
You want to prioritize Sundered sky for short trades, since it stacks with his AA passive.
You can also build Trinity force when dealing with long fights!
Any suggestions for galio mid? I know he's more a support-y magic tank who does a lot of ap damage and with the removal of everfrost the only thing I can think of the rush would be ROA, but what would his other 2 core items be?
rocketbelt then zhonya probably
Ban ap champs, take double magic resist in runse, tenacity boots every game, at least 1 or 2 magic resist item that are make u tank or anti burst for mages. (every game until sp item get balanced)
You cant build infinity and Quickblades on the same build. I tried it on Nilah and it wouldnt let me since both have "crit modifier" unique passive on them.
“And mythic items no longer existing” wait WHAT
I found it quite funny, whenever Liandrys was brought up as a "it is no longer [...} because it no longer provides any Mana" XD Basically "Liandrys Bad first cuz no Mana!"
if you actually paid attention to the video you'd see they said it isn't viable as a RUSH OPTION, because it really isn't. playing any mage and building a first item with no mana is bonkers
That's more or less how it is though... a lot of Mages rely on starting with a Mana Crystal and Refillables to accelerate their Lost Chapter power-spike, because funnily enough, their source of damage is their abilities, which require Mana. Liandry's not having a Lost Chapter component means that it's not a good rush item because then you go OOM and give up Mid prio around early Drakes/Void Grubs.
Am I missing something or will experimental hexplate be insane on Vayne?
for the newbs out there, Stormsurge is just a revived DFG... and it won't last 2 months, because it was broken back then and it will be now, even more.
i feel like Jax will abuse the Trinity Titanic combo, that made him OP 4 years ago, also he might become a good jungler again with the old tiamant. Going full tank after those 2 items.
Does Jg Ekko just fit into the Diana section?
I have no idea what you're talking about. I stopped at season 4. The itemization in the current game is mainly what keeping me from coming back.
Does anyone know why you can't buy certain items together? If you buy something another items or a couple might get locked. I hovered over things, looked at passives, but nothing tells me why that occurs. It's like buying a mythic, then the other mythics would be locked unless you sold your current one.
You can't buy both IE and Navori, huge misinfo (At least this is what i saw while playing Pbe on GP recently, like 2 days ago)
As a brown boi, the way he says "Akshan" as it is meant to be pronounced hits the spot 👍
Love your content but could you please show the names of the items as well?
What about ahri, which items fit her?
I wasn't sure it was an ai speaker until I heard him say "ukshin" around @17:30
either that or he just genuinely cannot pronounce the name "akshan" (ahk-shahn)
Does Malignance passive proc on teemo shrooms?
Do you think some of your strats works in wild rift?
support so much stronger? Pretty sure it's already one of strongest roles in the game lol, can't wait for S14
Please guys, what is the name of the song sounding in the background?
you can not build navori and IE it locks the other item just FYI
any shaco mains playing ap know what will be the new build now? Is liandry rush still a thing without the mana on support?
swain is going to be an absolute menace if he can build malignance, rylais, riftmaker and liandries lol
Isnt hecarim crazy op with this new MS Lethalyty Item. Cause of his Passiv to gain AD from MS. Its like free a teamfight win after killing the first takedown, right?
Experimental Hexplate would be interesting to see on Zeri since it gives you the stats that Zeri ult gives you, so you'd basically be able to create a better Zeri ult. So something along the lines of BORK into Hexplate maybe even with the new Titanic Hydra would be interesting. Bruiser items on Zeri are not a foreign concept and in pretty much every patch there's a new Bruiser build for her, so it'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.
No more crown ? How do I make Annie strong after that ? I need protection
Git gud
Jk
that item should never had been in the game lmao. as a toplane bruiser player, i can tell you that blowing your whole rotation on a mage when you arent behind in items and seeing them lose only 25% of their hp is not it.
you called an item mythic warly on btw. also ie and quick blades is still either or
One thing to note about sundered sky Camille, the sundered sky proc does not make her Q2 crit, it seems like a bait item for the champ because of this, I could be wrong tho because it’s still good if you r auto then Q
What do you mean by it doesn't make her Q2 crit?
@@ShadowRaZeV1 the passive of sundered sky is that ur first auto Crits for 150% dmg and heals for a bit, I immediately tried it on Camille but if ur first auto is a Q2, it does normal damage and it’s like u don’t have the item because Camille’s Q can’t crit
Oh holy shit. That's definitely an awful interaction. I guess this is where Riot's bad coding of what is considered a "crit" is. Cam Q2 is not supposed to crit because of the crit builds people did when she first came out. But stuff like Sundered Sky isn't actually a crit, it's just bonus damage that is kind of coded like a crit but is completely different.
I'm pretty sure it should 100% still work on her Q2. Riot needs to fix that shit quickly before release. They might have just overlooked it and not realised. That's what I'm hoping at least. Because the item in general does seem pretty good on her if they fix this interaction. @@davidleone6509
Same with fiora , it doesn't make her E1 crit , it is because her E1 is hard coded to never crit
Did they or did I miss Hubris
When is it out?
I believe the last day of this season is January 7th, so I'm almost positive it'll be after the 7th?
An old article said it was around 6-7th so the other guy was right, but it's now going to be the 10th of January based on most recent news.
I cant wait for season 14, I dont care about the build I am supposed to take Imma do a little experiment maybe making bruisers tankier but still do masive damage
You can't build quick blades and infinity edge, building one locks out the other. Same with sheen items and armor pen items.
8:45 imagine diana ulting everyone and burning them to death with malignance too
Maybe a late option but won't be core as she'll be even more useless without her ult due to losing too much damage on other abilities if you take it early.
Morello being that cheap will just lead to mid laners picking it up as a cheap second item to get ahead of the curve and snowball. It has insane stats for 2200 gold.
Currently the Umbral Glaive is already being built on basically all AD assassin champs and some ADC's for how strong it is and that at 109% efficient. Trust me on this, mid lane mage will use morello way better than support mages ever can.
@@skillcapped
hey skill, could you give a suggestion for a strong build that will be viable for ryze in the new season, I hope he returns to the game now with new items
Any mana item that scales
PLEASE PUT A DISCLAIMER NOTE ON THE SCREEN ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY IE AND NAVORI BOTH. THAT INFORMATION IS WRONG, AND YOU ARE SPREADING IT.
This!
Is that the new champ?? @5:14
any item riven would be lookin at?
I really really wish you put up the stats for each item and not just the picture. I want to be able to pause the screen and see what each item does.
I just wonder, did you think about mages building tear+liandry? Not every mage is that much depended on mana
I'm really lost to what buy for Aurelon soul
Is nashors tooth gone if so Diana will be non satisfying
How you have gameplay of season 14?
Playing on the PBE server. It's an NA based server that everyone can access to play unreleased content early.
I would love to see them reverting items back, this season is boring. As ARAM player, build diversity on champions went down hill. Season 11, 12 was so fun and that was because of items. I don't even want to touch many champions anymore. This is so sad.