A lot of people put weight on their kids going to universities without actually understanding what such an undertaking entails, and what that means for their kids down the line. It's not just the education system pushing kids to this path. It's a genuine issue that some parents expect their kids to graduate and figure things out themselves. Academic programs nowadays have also become more and more generalized to adapt to the volatile job marketplace of some fields, so you're expected to just learn as much as you can and hope by the time you graduate that your dream career still exists, or your knowledge is still applicable. All of this means that it's very hard for the people of this generation to plan for the future and expect stability, because it's built in both in the way the people who are supposed to guide you treat your future and the structure of the program you're studying expects you to achieve which forces this generation to keep on pushing while not having a concrete end goal.
For those of you who don't check twitter GEEGA's gonna be showing off her 3D model on wednesday Dec 4th at 1:00pm est if nothing changes. You'll get your regular wednesday clip and I'll probably have something out the same day or the day after.
I have a degree in geology and it's a running joke that no one actually starts in geology. High schools, counselors, and parents never tell kids about courses like geology. They focus on being doctors, engineers, CS, and similar overrated degrees. So everyone goes into those, and only halfway through their education do they actually switch. In my geology program club we had only two people who started in geology, out of ~25 of us. And no one drops out, since the degree is actually enjoyable. As it turns out, all of the recommended degrees have issues. Only half of engineering students get a degree, and only half of those actually work in engineering, so their high average salary is really only looking at the best quarter of them. Doctors spend 12+ years building up hundreds of thousands in debt that will take decades to pay off, despite their high salary, once they actually become a doctor. Half of the CS degrees I know got laid off over the last year with AI. And a lot of those students will be going through a lot of suffering in uni, just to end up with a degree they don't actually love to work in. Meanwhile in geology, most students spend 4 years on a subject they actually enjoy learning about and if they go into mining/O&G, are often making six figures within a few years. But since no one tells kids about that, no one goes into it.
Kids not getting told about what degrees are out there is still a big issue. Back in the early 2010s at most they did was tell us to do an online questionnaire where like half of us got cabinet maker and gunsmith
I was in cs310 before realizing I wasn't learning about tech repair, just coding. I changed to I&T and found out it was for people that were in HR learning to "double-click". I ran out of money and dropped out, started working in the field, and learned while the tech evolved. I've been a senior engineer with 20+ years of experience earning 6 figures.
People always rag on going to college as a waste of time, (some degrees like an art degree are a waste of time lol) but honestly, most people don't have much choice. I wasn't rich. I didn't want to be a content creator. I didn't want to start a business. I didn't want to do any of those well charted careers like doctor/nurse, police officer, electrician, etc that you can do at technical/trade schools. So what then? It's so easy to tell an 18 year old to just not waste money and don't go to university but I didn't have any obvious alternatives to pursue a career. It was either roll the dice with college or work retail/call center/factory til I die. Things did work out and I've got a decent career now. Not using my degree for my career but wouldn't have gotten the job without it. No idea what I'd be doing had I not gone to college and gotten that experience and connections.
Yes, but the answer should maybe then be community College until you figure out what to do instead of paying for regular college. But many 18 year Olds just don't want to miss out on the "college experience" despite the financial cost.
High school guidance counselor is a joke. I don't even remember any useful information I had from them. Ended up retaking the SAT after high school for Canadian universities (due to family issue) and got to a "prestigious school". Most professors are smart and nice but not good at teaching. Got the degree but still can't get into the field. Ended up in Logistics to help with my dad. Still don't know what to do career-wise.
They were telling us way back in the '90s computer science was the degree to get because good money. Not sure about that. Then a friend got a Masters in genetic engineering and worked in hospital IT. Troubleshooting, some networking, and of course help desk stuff. Guidance Counselor? I think the school had one, really laid back, no idea what he actually. I never talked to him. On the plus side my high school did acknowledge that trade schools were viable and even took us to visit one. Not quite drowned out by the "If you don't get a degree you'll windup in a VAN down by the RIVER."
The first part certainly hits home as someone with a maths degree who is now a software developer. However I kinda disagree with the need to know what you want to do before a uni/college, a lot of subjects are completely different to before and ultimately people change a lot over that 3/4 year period. Being from the UK i always forget how crazy the US college application process is, paying loads per college, vs a small fee in the UK to apply to up to 5.
The only use my degree has seen since I graduated like 5 years ago is to get immigration off my back when I travel...and my counselor? Flipping a coin was more useful every time.
@litrick5471 you sound salty.....cause you discovered it wasnt about a meth lab??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just kidding,.....thanx for info but math lab matlab.....what is the difference??? Just so you know we dont have either where Im from.....probably
A lot of people put weight on their kids going to universities without actually understanding what such an undertaking entails, and what that means for their kids down the line. It's not just the education system pushing kids to this path. It's a genuine issue that some parents expect their kids to graduate and figure things out themselves.
Academic programs nowadays have also become more and more generalized to adapt to the volatile job marketplace of some fields, so you're expected to just learn as much as you can and hope by the time you graduate that your dream career still exists, or your knowledge is still applicable.
All of this means that it's very hard for the people of this generation to plan for the future and expect stability, because it's built in both in the way the people who are supposed to guide you treat your future and the structure of the program you're studying expects you to achieve which forces this generation to keep on pushing while not having a concrete end goal.
For those of you who don't check twitter GEEGA's gonna be showing off her 3D model on wednesday Dec 4th at 1:00pm est if nothing changes. You'll get your regular wednesday clip and I'll probably have something out the same day or the day after.
Thanks Cheese!
I have a degree in geology and it's a running joke that no one actually starts in geology.
High schools, counselors, and parents never tell kids about courses like geology. They focus on being doctors, engineers, CS, and similar overrated degrees. So everyone goes into those, and only halfway through their education do they actually switch. In my geology program club we had only two people who started in geology, out of ~25 of us. And no one drops out, since the degree is actually enjoyable.
As it turns out, all of the recommended degrees have issues. Only half of engineering students get a degree, and only half of those actually work in engineering, so their high average salary is really only looking at the best quarter of them. Doctors spend 12+ years building up hundreds of thousands in debt that will take decades to pay off, despite their high salary, once they actually become a doctor. Half of the CS degrees I know got laid off over the last year with AI. And a lot of those students will be going through a lot of suffering in uni, just to end up with a degree they don't actually love to work in.
Meanwhile in geology, most students spend 4 years on a subject they actually enjoy learning about and if they go into mining/O&G, are often making six figures within a few years. But since no one tells kids about that, no one goes into it.
Kids not getting told about what degrees are out there is still a big issue. Back in the early 2010s at most they did was tell us to do an online questionnaire where like half of us got cabinet maker and gunsmith
@@cheesesculptor Your class must have made some very nice gun cabinets.
I was in cs310 before realizing I wasn't learning about tech repair, just coding. I changed to I&T and found out it was for people that were in HR learning to "double-click". I ran out of money and dropped out, started working in the field, and learned while the tech evolved. I've been a senior engineer with 20+ years of experience earning 6 figures.
People always rag on going to college as a waste of time, (some degrees like an art degree are a waste of time lol) but honestly, most people don't have much choice. I wasn't rich. I didn't want to be a content creator. I didn't want to start a business. I didn't want to do any of those well charted careers like doctor/nurse, police officer, electrician, etc that you can do at technical/trade schools. So what then? It's so easy to tell an 18 year old to just not waste money and don't go to university but I didn't have any obvious alternatives to pursue a career. It was either roll the dice with college or work retail/call center/factory til I die. Things did work out and I've got a decent career now. Not using my degree for my career but wouldn't have gotten the job without it. No idea what I'd be doing had I not gone to college and gotten that experience and connections.
Yes, but the answer should maybe then be community College until you figure out what to do instead of paying for regular college. But many 18 year Olds just don't want to miss out on the "college experience" despite the financial cost.
High school guidance counselor is a joke. I don't even remember any useful information I had from them. Ended up retaking the SAT after high school for Canadian universities (due to family issue) and got to a "prestigious school". Most professors are smart and nice but not good at teaching. Got the degree but still can't get into the field. Ended up in Logistics to help with my dad. Still don't know what to do career-wise.
They were telling us way back in the '90s computer science was the degree to get because good money. Not sure about that. Then a friend got a Masters in genetic engineering and worked in hospital IT. Troubleshooting, some networking, and of course help desk stuff.
Guidance Counselor? I think the school had one, really laid back, no idea what he actually. I never talked to him. On the plus side my high school did acknowledge that trade schools were viable and even took us to visit one. Not quite drowned out by the "If you don't get a degree you'll windup in a VAN down by the RIVER."
The first part certainly hits home as someone with a maths degree who is now a software developer. However I kinda disagree with the need to know what you want to do before a uni/college, a lot of subjects are completely different to before and ultimately people change a lot over that 3/4 year period.
Being from the UK i always forget how crazy the US college application process is, paying loads per college, vs a small fee in the UK to apply to up to 5.
The only use my degree has seen since I graduated like 5 years ago is to get immigration off my back when I travel...and my counselor? Flipping a coin was more useful every time.
It's been like this forever, even among boomers
Math lab?? I think those ppl just heard wrong and they thought "woohoo,meth lab" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matlab. Mat as in matrix.
@litrick5471 you sound salty.....cause you discovered it wasnt about a meth lab???
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just kidding,.....thanx for info but math lab matlab.....what is the difference??? Just so you know we dont have either where Im from.....probably
I'd rather go work at a meth lab than ever have to touch Matlab ever again 😭
@@thomcat2704MatLab is a programming language. It's not an actual laboratory about math