Race to fight to win for Championship 4 finalists Jimmie Johnson, Carl Edwards, Kyle Busch and Joey Logano. Final race for Audi R18. Championship leader by Lewis Hamilton.
The ending was basically: *ha Sonic, you think you've won, but there's a twist and there's a twist after that, and I'll twisten that twist up with another twist, and another twist on top of that twist*
@@ppmusic1322 E10, actually. Plus, Sonic was never tortured in the original/Japanese version of Forces. It was either a translation error or just thrown in for the sake of being edgier than it innitialy was. This is just what I heard anyway.
Y'all realize that the same thing happened in Sonic Adventure 2 where him and Amy watched Sonic get launched into space and blown up and immediately afterwards Tails had to pull himself together to fight Eggman, who was still in the room and willing to kill him and Amy, right? Again, it's bad character progression.
I'm so happy that Silver is back, he's my favourite Sonic character aside from Shadow. Also at 53:17 I nearly died laughing at the look on the OC's face 😂
even if he was brought back he was still obviously killed on screen. they put a spike through his chest and everything. he was dead. not to mention that entire game was about trying to save the future from the apocalypse. and wasnt there one other game where you could chose to kill the aliens or the humans? so why they chose now to shy away from death and whatnot is beyond me
5:34 Torturing Sonic... I think I know how they did that. Toss Chili dogs into water to make them soggy and disgusting. Sonic Loves Chili Dogs, but hates Water.
@@Densester Wrong you swab! Tails has been useful all this time. Even in the cartoons. You don't realize the truth. We don't know who's idea was it, to make Tails and the other character not playable in this game.
Hey, cut them some slack. You have to remember that it is probably hard to just accept that someone as powerful as Sonic could just be left alive for 6 whole months.
How to make this the game we were hoping for 1) make the super strong villain Infinite the final boss 2) make Infinite loyal to Eggman for the entire game 3) make Sonic a little afraid of Infinite 4) actually explain why Other Sonic was in the different dimension 5) a better final finishing plan the the sun (though it wasn’t the worst plan) 6) give the avatar some speaking lines with different voices depending on the gender or animal 7) Alternate endings so maybe we can actually have more than one ending (like Eggman won and he conquered the planet and it would be a rather interesting cutscene for that, an ending where Infinite survived and will come back for revenge, or maybe an ending where Sonic or the avatar gets a transformation from the ruby thing). 8) have the villains not illusions but real and fighting for their own reasons or out of fear because of Infinite 9) better cutscenes 10) add other Sonic characters like Blaze 11) a powerful final form for Infinite (maybe where we see whats under his mask)
2) he was 4) You mean Sonic Mania? 5) While it was ridiculous, it was also extremely cool lol 6) Very cool but would probably be a lot of work for not much reward 10) They don't even have the rights to any character you mentioned but Blaze. The Iron Queen can never even appear in Sonic media again thanks to Ken Penders. Other than that yeah I mostly agree, but the game looks pretty cool
Yes, the best cutscene opening i have seen from the Sonic games was from sonic unleashed that would have worked better for this game with some adjustments
It's bassicly a time-loop that got literally messed up, it's just like in Little Nightmares 2 but instead of fighting you are helping the older version of yourself. Sonic (from Sonic Mania) got transported to the nothingness in the Sonic generations and that's where the first time loop is cuz he literally meets the older version of himself, this means that HE will find himself in the same situation but this time he will be the older version that meets the younger. And here in Sonic Forces simply the same thing happens
In sophisticated terms, the people who created this game have downsized Tails’ character to the point that he is just another face in the character roster and a shadow of his former self. In a layman’s terms, well... he got the Gohan treatment.
I think the reason why Tails and the others were shafted was because people criticized SEGA for emphasizing the side characters more than Sonic; from Adventure 1 to 06, the games were structured in a way that players were forced to play as other characters, along with Sonic, to complete the game, rather than allowing players to chose who to play as all the way through like the Genesis/Master System days. I don't remember why they did this, but I think it was an attempt to keep the franchise interesting. Players were not that happy about this approach and, combined with the failure of 06, SEGA took the criticism seriously and, starting with Unleashed, made future Sonic games focus solely on Sonic, albeit at the expense of other characters. What I think is going on is that SEGA takes criticism a bit too strongly and reacts in an extreme fashion; it's this take in criticism that leads to the death of so many Sonic concepts and projects, even ones that are enjoyed by fans.
PieOfCthulhu personally if the point of null space is to be a void with nothing, not even a single spec of matter included, it would be rather hard to make a whole level out of it. But I wouldn’t be against that.
Honestly, I think this game turned out pretty okay. A lot of people have mixed feelings about it, and I can say I do too. I actually enjoyed the cutscenes in the beginning, since Sonic was gone, we can see all the characters interact with one another without him needing to be there. I think it gives them more personality, and we can definitely see how the characters formed different relationships with one another. All in all, I think the game could've been better, it had potential, but it's pretty okay in my book.
Unfortunately, the game being « okay » is what makes it forgettable to a lot of people. There’s nothing that’s super good about it nor anything that’s super bad. Sonic 06 was a mess yet people still remember it because of how bad it was. That being said, I agree that the game did have potential.
Yeah, I agree. I think the one thing it could have done better is have more levels or make the levels longer, as some people did complain about how short the game is (as the only way to put more time in it is if you go for the hidden items in each and every level), and the fact that Avatar customization is limited.
Come on now, this is the same guy who talks about being all powerful with this new mech he has then gets smack by the blue hedgehog Anyone remember how colors went for him or generations? He had it coming lol
@@aydenzed3359 probably because you race in the Hangar bay of the Death Egg in Transformed. Plus it's had the name "Death Egg" since Sonic 2 back in 1992.
and this game was supposed to branch off of mania...classic sonic had the chaos emeralds upon reaching that world so its really dumb there wasnt any sort of super sonic
@@coolsagain um for your information I did watch Sonic X when that comment was posted, and Shadow's smile was something i didn't notice much since he's not the type of character to smile unlike Sonic and the others, so maybe I was surprised? Idk
My problem is that they don't even have the strength to say the word 'Die' (cuz' this is a game for 6 year-olds). But back in 2005 Shadow said "Where's that DAMN fourth Chaos Emerald?"
Honestly could be vastly improved with just a few changes. -don't just tell us about eggmans conquering - SHOW it to us. They give us a taste, but we need more if it needs to feel real. -at least in first battles - have sonics attacks do next to nothing at all to infinite. Gives him a more godlike, impenetrable feeling. Don't just make him invincible in cutscenes - in the game too. -give the other villains depth - don't just cheese them to be illusions. Possibly most importantly though - GIVE US A REASON TO CARE. They keep trying to remind us of old games when what they really need to do is develop sonic. Have him grow from his mistakes - give him flaws, give him weaknesses. Sonics fans have grown up - have him grow up too.
Technically, they did show Eggman's conquering, even if only a little - that was basically the point of the Avatar's flashback. We literally saw Infinite leading Eggman's robots and annihilating several Resistance members, leaving only the Avatar left to tell the tale and join Knuckles, Espio and the others.
@@mrreyes5004 that's it though, there's literally so little of us seeing Eggman conquering world. One cutscene of Infinite just beating a couple of resistance members isn't good enough, the scene is short and there could've been more done with this concept.
kyuuibi rasagen just wait till you try out its stiff gameplay and levels designed like corridors. The story is actually the best part of the game, and even then its just...eh
It was a bang average game. The level design was lazy AF. Most of the time you just run forward and press a button occasionally to dodge something and that's about it.
HEs Keyboarding hey man I don’t hate the game. Is it perfect? No, not in my opinion but it’s not “bad” either. Honestly would’ve gotten it if I had the money...
@@bluerious5475 What's cringy about it? Is it a dated expression or something? (Genuine question, English isn't my native language and I always thought it was as normal as saying "that's true" or something like that)
Gabo2oo I mean it is a pretty commonly used term, but a cringe is essentially a term for a reaction of disgust or emberrasment, typically when your face scrunches up and your body jerks back. In this scenario, Tails saying “True dat” gives off a feeling of disgust due to how dated the statement is, and how it makes Sega feel like they’re trying to hard to appeal to kids.
How is this a step up when his previous inventions required Super Sonic to defeat and one of them even went against Hyper Sonic when this one only required Double Boost or Triple Boost?
So next goal is to attempt to rule the universe? I meam he already did built a theme park TWICE(unleashed and Colors) and now he ruled the world(forces) The guy is taking steps. Sonic better be on his feet for this one lol
The game was actually pretty decent. Yeah, some of the gameplay mechanics were wonky, and some of the dialogue is cheesy, but it's still pretty decent. Honestly, the biggest issue I had with the game was the way the story was presented (as well as the quality of the cutscenes.)
Soru98 with sonic, cheesiness is a given so I just accept it in a world where your main character is a fast blue Hedgehog. But yeah the story seemed...I dunno..I feel like they tried too much to have the OC to be so plot important. I can see it easily working as a online multiplayer thing. Just not as the story, the focus should,d have been on modern and classic sonic , especially since Mania and forces are connected. That and the final boss..wasted potential . Eggman says he's surpassed infinite and uses the lasers and rocks only. I would have had Eggman at first use a combo of the Death Egg Robot and Dragoon and the final phase would have been Eggman using the Ruby to roboticise himself . But what we got was copy and paste wisp nega armour
I feel as if the focus should have been on Shadow mainly. Shadow was the one who made Infinite go crazy saying "I am not weak!" making him seek more power so he could crush everybody. If Infinite wanted revenge on anybody, it would be Shadow. This game should've been Shadow the Hedgehog instead.
This was one of the worse games I played this year. Short campaign with a story about on par with fanfictions, clunky controls, stupid avatar creation and painful dialogue.
Wait a fucking second how is Omega fixed In the finale battle with Infinite. He was broken, who the hell repaired him cause Tails' obviously gave up and ran off with classic why isn't this explained!
I do really like the cutscene of Sonic getting air juggled by the baddies. I liked how it flowed and the coreography, and it at least made some sense to have Sonic beaten like that.
well i grew up with unleashed, saw colours when i was a bit older and then enjoyed generations. my standards are high and this game, at best, was just another colours
Erick Lappara “4 years developing this game” at this point its either they did this game in 4 months and didnt even try, or they did this in 4 years and it still looks bad idk whats worse
Freedom Planet Fan No, this game is one of the best Sonic games we’ve had in a while! Don’t listen to the hatebrats as they’re nothing but attention seeking trolls with no lives and hate on Sonic only cause they think it makes them look cool when in reality it makes them look like a complete trashy loser!
It's been over a month and I'm still so damn mad because the concept is so good and this could've been so great but it just isn't. I mean, they didn't show a single freaking scene of Sonic in imprisonment! I've been waiting years to see that dammit. And he wasn't affected at all by it either. Better release, what do I know, a movie or something or have Sonic Boom S3 parody it... anything, as long as I get something. Oh well... I guess it's at least teased by Infinite that Sonic in fact _was_ kinda scared by him so he didn't go through everything completely unaffected.
1. They did show him imprisonned 2. By torturing they meant showing him how Eggman was slowly conquering the entire world and seeing his friends and people being captured and sometimes killed. 3. Sonic has always been known to be strong self-steem
The cutscene in green hill was the one that made the most sense to me. This is war god fucking damnit. Of course Infinite being overconfident is a cause for concern. But this is a Sonic game. Perhaps i'm asking for too much.
ThePerfectChaos Torture: noun -The action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain. verb -inflict severe pain on I think you confused torture with mockery
ThePerfectChaos I know, but I doubt Eggman mentally messed with Sonic due to the fact he's still wise-cracking as usual and Eggman would more likely taunt Sonic than to psychologically screw with him
EggMan:Since you ALWAYS destroy the power source of my weapons,I decided to learn from my mistakes. Me:So wait,you're saying that you NEVER learn from your mistakes?
sonic 06 tired something new with its story and stuck with it...in this sonic is revealed to be alive and fine by the second mission. At that point the game plays out exactly as you would expect. Sonic 06 was better, and I fucking hate sonic 06...
FLAMING RAGE So your telling me, Sonic 06, a game that is literally unfinished, broken and buggy, is better than Forces? How? I know it's your opinion but I can't see how 06 is a better game. 06 is objectively worse. Forces is at the very least finished. It runs smoothly and isn't that buggy(from what I've seen). 06 on the other hand suffers from constant slowdown, long loading times, buggy gameplay and game breaking elements. I just don't see how you, or anyone, can say Forces is worse. 06 was rushed.It lacks polish and is overall an unfinished game. Forces ain't great, but to say that it's worse than 06 is an exaggeration.
I agree that the game was a complete shit show but the reason i have so much more hate for this game is because, when i finished it i was so angry that it was that short AND that the game started with a interesting premise but refused to deliver and just trailed off. Plays 06 made me want to shoot myself but the story managed to keep me engaged because tried new stuff and stuck with it. I mean in 06 sonic straight died via impalement, true he is resurrected in the most controversial sonic scene ever but still. In forces they says hes been tortured but when you seen sonic, he is the same as always. No change in him at all after 6 months of torture. The reason id rather play 06 is because the story at least tried the whole way through, in forces you knew exactly what would happen the second sonic is brought back into the story. Plus...infinite's god awful backstory....seriously.
Honestly, as much as I enjoy this concept of playing your own avatar, they REALLY should’ve made this game more on the concept of playing the cast of Sonic characters shown here, I mean HOW COOL would it be to get to do that again like in the original games?! Find a way to combine all the different parts of each character’s gameplay from the Adventure Series, add in Silver’s setup from ‘06, heck bring back the Sonic Heroes concept and set up Team Modes for a brief period, WE HAD Team Chaotix here again!! I could’ve just pictured this being pretty amazing to play through on Story Mode
There were many questions I had in this game (EVEN THOUGH I LOVE IT) 1.) why doesn't silver have a DLC episode? He saw this coming before anyone! That's why he went to knuckles. Not to mention its his 11th ANNIVERSARY!! 2.) Silver is perfectly capable of taking down all those robots! SEGA just wanted sonic to look cool as usual. I love sonic but cmon Sega 3.) What was the point of classic sonic exactly?! He doesn't really do anything That's all. I really love this game though. Now let's wait for a Silver the Hedgehog game
Sonic: gets tortured for months.
Sonic: lmaooo let's get out of this yawnfest!
sonic: lmaooo prepare to get reverse circumcised egg guy :thinking: :flushed: :joy: :egg:
@@crispy9542 sonic really called eggman an incel
@Una Persona aaaah now that does explain things
Race to fight to win for Championship 4 finalists Jimmie Johnson, Carl Edwards, Kyle Busch and Joey Logano.
Final race for Audi R18.
Championship leader by Lewis Hamilton.
Eggman just made him watch while he ate chilli dogs.
The ending was basically: *ha Sonic, you think you've won, but there's a twist and there's a twist after that, and I'll twisten that twist up with another twist, and another twist on top of that twist*
Tongue twister?
Cynicas I mean...sounds like Eggman to me.
And the final twist is that there is an invulnerable robot that isn't invulnerable at all.
@@dream_smp_axolotld5838 👏
It's a loop da looping twister!
"It's been GENERATIONS since I've seen you"
Oh Sega, u sly dawg
Edward Gentile Great pun, decent game, cringy dialogue and terrible edgy villain.
Edward Gentile the entire world facepalmed at that moment
Hideyoshi Kinoshita 木下秀吉 Eh this game is a pseudo-sequel to Generations which was a great game but this is just...
Edward Gentile “five generations actually now that I think about it!!”
Edward Gentile A reference to a better sonic game. It’s tragic really.
That zoom in at 53:17 is the best of this video.
That was funny AF🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
13:22 just saving to watch this cool timestamp
SONIC ADVENTURE INTENSIFIES
Happy doggo
*sonic adventure flashbacks*
I love how this video actually shows gameplay so that the cutscenes make sense.
37:12 Shadow: That was a fake.
The irony of SA2.
Yes that fake shadow
haha i see what you did there
😊
Shadow is real because of final boss secret in shadow the hedgehog
FAKER!?
53:18 - I enjoyed that zoom in more than anything else. X'D
LOL
LOL haha
LOOOL
same XD
Lol I saw that before looking at the comments
37:17 Best trust him, Sonic, Shadow knows a thing or two about fakes.
Nice lol
I laughed so hard when you started to zoom in on the Avatar's face during that one cutscene! LOL
Midnight☪Wonder LOL Well at least he's in the game (the mission kind not the actual game kind lol)
53:17 if anyone's looking for it
Maaaan that had me crackn the Fk up 🤣🤣🤣
"It's been *generations* since I've seen you"
Yeah I noticed that too.
Best line in franchise history
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Yeah some torture, he's cracking jokes like it was an average Wednesday.
Well this game is E rated sooooooooo
Nothing personal kid
SkyTech RTS ?
@@ppmusic1322 E10, actually. Plus, Sonic was never tortured in the original/Japanese version of Forces. It was either a translation error or just thrown in for the sake of being edgier than it innitialy was.
This is just what I heard anyway.
Ikr I was he seems fine to me.
Tails fought Chaos 4 in Sonic Adventure but now curls up and cries for Sonic when confronted by Chaos 0? Ah, character progression.
Comfortably Dumb my guess, tails became a nervous wreck and coward after sonics capture
brandommario2
Yes, a kid will totally not get trauma from seeing his long time friend die in front of his face. Good thinking.
TheRealMoch Yeh yeah that's what I mean
Y'all realize that the same thing happened in Sonic Adventure 2 where him and Amy watched Sonic get launched into space and blown up and immediately afterwards Tails had to pull himself together to fight Eggman, who was still in the room and willing to kill him and Amy, right? Again, it's bad character progression.
IKR I wish they would fire the pepole who made tails such a wimp and get someone who knows tails a lot better
The zoom in on the rookies smile lol
The 1560 yeah, that part was cute!
Lol
I don't think that was a smile; that looked more like terror!
Toni Leaf the terror of sonic 06
21+35+56?
I'm so happy that Silver is back, he's my favourite Sonic character aside from Shadow. Also at 53:17 I nearly died laughing at the look on the OC's face 😂
Being a leader was hard.
Knuckles The Echidna and Knuckles
ok.
We trust and love you.
*Not As Hard As My BallSack*
And if I recall correctly, you got 80% of your forces wiped out with that 'Operation Big Wave.'
1:25:07 under no circumstance should tails ever be able to say that again.
Is it bad all I heard was true dat who dat I g g y
no cap
aaroshplays True dat.
Agreed
Tru dat!
"terabytes of selfies". . .
Eggman really needs a hoby
Kaitlyn Williams *10 terabytes
I think that IS his hobby...
His hobbies are long walks on the beach, and taking over the world.
@Dimitri Smith It's one heck of a hobby, alright.
infinite and eggman could have won if they weren't constantly letting people live for no reason
That's why this story makes no sense and it's terrible.
I don’t think Sega would want blood and death in their E for everyone game.
if they arent going to have the balls to kill anybody then they shouldnt have made a game about war.
also they totally killed sonic in 06 so.....
Not a Giant well, he was brought back to life, so...
even if he was brought back he was still obviously killed on screen. they put a spike through his chest and everything. he was dead. not to mention that entire game was about trying to save the future from the apocalypse. and wasnt there one other game where you could chose to kill the aliens or the humans? so why they chose now to shy away from death and whatnot is beyond me
I THOUGHT TAILS SAID HE WAS GONNA STOP RELYING ON SONIC FOR EVERYTHING
the new writers sadly know nothing about sonic
Blame the writers.
Love Bug since when? Which Sonic game?
@@uhhhkay.9836 but the thing was, he's been trying to stay independent from sonic since sa1, maybe earlier
he even says in sonic adventure "but i cant depend on him forever"
1:39 Tails is too adorable ♡
2:54 He's so worried about his buddy :'(
3:20 Vector, Amy, Espio, Charmy ♡
3:28 Silver ♡
4:19 Knuckles ♡
4:45 New recruit ♡
6:43 You're smart enough ♡
“6:53 🤡”
@@meep90011 xD
1:24:24 Tails misses the classic games and wishes he can go with Classic Sonic to Mania.
DLJ Plays of course
Sonic Mania Adventures comes into play right after...
Yet the youngest yet the nostalgiest
5:34 Torturing Sonic... I think I know how they did that.
Toss Chili dogs into water to make them soggy and disgusting. Sonic Loves Chili Dogs, but hates Water.
GoldenYoshistar1 or if it was realistic, have him look at fanart. Theres some weird shit on the internet lol
Let's do both! While tons of Chili Dogs rain into freshwater to become soggy.
Arion The Kid And the Chili Dogs are the same as the ones from Sonic and The Black Knight.
I don't think even Bowser is that cruel to his arch rival.
They would have probably made him play all the other bad sonic games too, while listening to an audio book of the worst sonic Fanfictions
*MY NAME IS NOT BUDDY!!!! ITS NOT INCREDIBOY EITHER!!!!*
I AM *SYNDROME*
YOUR NEMESIS AND-oh brilliant...
You sly dog! You had me monologuing!
But using the phantom ruby to mess with reality? Oh man! I'm still geeking out about it!
100th like
No matter what game or how “meh” it is, like all Sonic games, Forces delivers a phenomenal soundtrack.
MEPHILES: I have the power to travel through time.
SILVER: 5:12
Tails: *true dat*
AHHH I HATE FANDOMS I was just gonna say that
AHHH I HATE FANDOMS I hate fandoms aswell
Sonic: *dat true*
@@randomcommentator4332 I'm sonic I am not kidding 4 real
Gotta go fast
Did Tails really just say "True dat?" Um...
Taylor Michelle dat boi
One of the worst things they did in this game is make Tails same that..... grrrrrrr
it fits his character
Yes, yes he did
@@LoxyTheReindeer bro really just growled😭
53:18 *N I C E*
I'm so happy at least one person enjoyed my edit
Laughed so hard at that xD
I can see the OC saying " DO I HAVE SOMETHING IN MY TEETH?".
Jack Armour appreciated
Its the face of terror
38:36
Did silver voice crack? Man what is up with this game’s voice acting.
That's Quinton Flynn.
Que Chronic Farces.
38:35 I love how Silver voice cracks xD
Fancy seeing you here
And yet again. Tails gets replaced...
Worse than that, devalued. He's facking useless in this game!
correction, he has been useless for 10 years, hope he returns to glory like shadow.
@@Densester Wrong you swab! Tails has been useful all this time. Even in the cartoons. You don't realize the truth. We don't know who's idea was it, to make Tails and the other character not playable in this game.
@@CaptainBones Imagine having to program like 12 playable characters, last time they tried that they made the worst game in the series.
@@CharCharmer Yes.
Lol they left Sonic for dead? He needs new friends
He needs new friends and new better games.
Julie Symonds what if the eggman's lackeys were closing in on Sonic?
No inf. Took him
Well, he did get a new friend...
Hey, cut them some slack. You have to remember that it is probably hard to just accept that someone as powerful as Sonic could just be left alive for 6 whole months.
How to make this the game we were hoping for
1) make the super strong villain Infinite the final boss
2) make Infinite loyal to Eggman for the entire game
3) make Sonic a little afraid of Infinite
4) actually explain why Other Sonic was in the different dimension
5) a better final finishing plan the the sun (though it wasn’t the worst plan)
6) give the avatar some speaking lines with different voices depending on the gender or animal
7) Alternate endings so maybe we can actually have more than one ending (like Eggman won and he conquered the planet and it would be a rather interesting cutscene for that, an ending where Infinite survived and will come back for revenge, or maybe an ending where Sonic or the avatar gets a transformation from the ruby thing).
8) have the villains not illusions but real and fighting for their own reasons or out of fear because of Infinite
9) better cutscenes
10) add other Sonic characters like Blaze
11) a powerful final form for Infinite (maybe where we see whats under his mask)
2) he was
4) You mean Sonic Mania?
5) While it was ridiculous, it was also extremely cool lol
6) Very cool but would probably be a lot of work for not much reward
10) They don't even have the rights to any character you mentioned but Blaze. The Iron Queen can never even appear in Sonic media again thanks to Ken Penders.
Other than that yeah I mostly agree, but the game looks pretty cool
The final boss should've been both Infinite and Eggman working together.
Blaze was trapped in an alternate universe...that bitch ain't coming back don't know how they did that shit in generations maybe sega forgot that shit
Yes, the best cutscene opening i have seen from the Sonic games was from sonic unleashed that would have worked better for this game with some adjustments
11) In episode shadow, they explain Infinite's origins and behind his mask is his real face
1:03:07
Why this game should've been titled "Sonic: Infinity War".
I knew I wans't the only one to make the connections
Sonic portal scene
35:09 " Its been generations since ive seen you!"
Classic sonic was first in generations tuche sega
i don't know how to tell you that classic sonic first showed up in sonic the hedgehog 1
It's bassicly a time-loop that got literally messed up, it's just like in Little Nightmares 2 but instead of fighting you are helping the older version of yourself. Sonic (from Sonic Mania) got transported to the nothingness in the Sonic generations and that's where the first time loop is cuz he literally meets the older version of himself, this means that HE will find himself in the same situation but this time he will be the older version that meets the younger. And here in Sonic Forces simply the same thing happens
@@deceseze I know this was Three years ago, but you're not wrong.
Why is tails sonic's cheerleader now what happened to him getting in the action with sonic like the adventure games and classic
He was also going to have a part whare he fights chaos in sonic forces
He lost it, as in his usefulness.
Cinos the Dense potato I miss when tails didn't lose it
In sophisticated terms, the people who created this game have downsized Tails’ character to the point that he is just another face in the character roster and a shadow of his former self. In a layman’s terms, well... he got the Gohan treatment.
I think the reason why Tails and the others were shafted was because people criticized SEGA for emphasizing the side characters more than Sonic; from Adventure 1 to 06, the games were structured in a way that players were forced to play as other characters, along with Sonic, to complete the game, rather than allowing players to chose who to play as all the way through like the Genesis/Master System days. I don't remember why they did this, but I think it was an attempt to keep the franchise interesting. Players were not that happy about this approach and, combined with the failure of 06, SEGA took the criticism seriously and, starting with Unleashed, made future Sonic games focus solely on Sonic, albeit at the expense of other characters.
What I think is going on is that SEGA takes criticism a bit too strongly and reacts in an extreme fashion; it's this take in criticism that leads to the death of so many Sonic concepts and projects, even ones that are enjoyed by fans.
"I get more powerful every second"
Yup that's it, *Sonic is Goku*
If it's an attempt at imitation, no wonder he's being written badly...
Not exactly, Goku gets stronger as he fights, and Sonic just gets stronger... It's similar, but not exactly the same.
That's really just shounen characters in general lol.
@@GoldenBoyBlue Exactly
Utter instincc sonic
WHAT WAS EVEN THE POINT OF NULL SPACE
PieOfCthulhu To be fodderized like the rest of the game.
This World Is An Illusion
Can't argue with that.
PieOfCthulhu
You can’t make a leveling nothing, null space was just to show what will happen for the final boss
+Xaiver 2.0
Actually, people did manage to find unused dialogue for Null Space. It was meant to be a full level.
PieOfCthulhu personally if the point of null space is to be a void with nothing, not even a single spec of matter included, it would be rather hard to make a whole level out of it. But I wouldn’t be against that.
Honestly, I think this game turned out pretty okay. A lot of people have mixed feelings about it, and I can say I do too. I actually enjoyed the cutscenes in the beginning, since Sonic was gone, we can see all the characters interact with one another without him needing to be there. I think it gives them more personality, and we can definitely see how the characters formed different relationships with one another. All in all, I think the game could've been better, it had potential, but it's pretty okay in my book.
Unfortunately, the game being « okay » is what makes it forgettable to a lot of people. There’s nothing that’s super good about it nor anything that’s super bad. Sonic 06 was a mess yet people still remember it because of how bad it was. That being said, I agree that the game did have potential.
I wished there was accessibility settings. It's difficult for disabled people to play, even on normal mode.
Yeah, I agree. I think the one thing it could have done better is have more levels or make the levels longer, as some people did complain about how short the game is (as the only way to put more time in it is if you go for the hidden items in each and every level), and the fact that Avatar customization is limited.
Honestly aside from the actual story, I like the character animations and the camera movements. It almost feels like a Pixar movie.
Invulnerable Death Egg Robot in its "Ultimate Form".
*Dies from multiple boops to the head*
It could've had a better name, like Egg Phantom. That's the best I can think of.
How come it's called "the death egg" in sonic forces but it's called "the egg hangar" in sonic all Stars racing transformed?
Come on now, this is the same guy who talks about being all powerful with this new mech he has then gets smack by the blue hedgehog
Anyone remember how colors went for him or generations?
He had it coming lol
Bops* 🤣
@@aydenzed3359 probably because you race in the Hangar bay of the Death Egg in Transformed. Plus it's had the name "Death Egg" since Sonic 2 back in 1992.
Is tortured
Looks the same...
Edit: Not only that i thought tails "lost it"?
the crab Why did they even mention it if they didn't do anything with it?
Honestly they're just making the game more edgy
They could've made some cool mechanics. Like sonic not as fast as he used to be
Clearly, the torture was making him play _Sonic 06_ . It's a miracle he escaped with his sanity intact.
MrOmegatronic *_its no use_*
A game where sonic doesn't go super.........."great" sarcastically
There is a patch that will include super sonic on the way
Mods have already been made.
and this game was supposed to branch off of mania...classic sonic had the chaos emeralds upon reaching that world so its really dumb there wasnt any sort of super sonic
Daihaksu Diamora
Did you even see the ending of Sonic Mania?
Joshua Heckstall *coughs* Sonic boom
1:06:52 OMG!! Seeing Shadow smiling is the best thing I've ever seeeeeen!!!
looks like someone never seen sonic X
@@coolsagain um for your information I did watch Sonic X when that comment was posted, and Shadow's smile was something i didn't notice much since he's not the type of character to smile unlike Sonic and the others, so maybe I was surprised? Idk
@@arika8722 whoops, my bad
35:03 A moment I was starting to think I’d never see in a Sonic game!
My problem is that they don't even have the strength to say the word 'Die' (cuz' this is a game for 6 year-olds). But back in 2005 Shadow said "Where's that DAMN fourth Chaos Emerald?"
@@OfficialOacus OR cause that game was meant for an older audience anyways…
You're right.
Honestly could be vastly improved with just a few changes.
-don't just tell us about eggmans conquering - SHOW it to us. They give us a taste, but we need more if it needs to feel real.
-at least in first battles - have sonics attacks do next to nothing at all to infinite. Gives him a more godlike, impenetrable feeling. Don't just make him invincible in cutscenes - in the game too.
-give the other villains depth - don't just cheese them to be illusions.
Possibly most importantly though - GIVE US A REASON TO CARE. They keep trying to remind us of old games when what they really need to do is develop sonic. Have him grow from his mistakes - give him flaws, give him weaknesses. Sonics fans have grown up - have him grow up too.
Matt D amen
Technically, they did show Eggman's conquering, even if only a little - that was basically the point of the Avatar's flashback. We literally saw Infinite leading Eggman's robots and annihilating several Resistance members, leaving only the Avatar left to tell the tale and join Knuckles, Espio and the others.
Show not tell is very important
@@mrreyes5004 that's it though, there's literally so little of us seeing Eggman conquering world. One cutscene of Infinite just beating a couple of resistance members isn't good enough, the scene is short and there could've been more done with this concept.
Despite the anger of the sonic fan base, this game doesn't look bad
kyuuibi rasagen just wait till you try out its stiff gameplay and levels designed like corridors. The story is actually the best part of the game, and even then its just...eh
I thought this game was so cool.
even then thats being generous. the story isnt even good- decent at best
I know.
It was a bang average game. The level design was lazy AF. Most of the time you just run forward and press a button occasionally to dodge something and that's about it.
55:48 - They missed out on such a great opportunity for a reference.
FHINDE DAH COMPHUTEURE ROOHME. Vector - 2005
1:17:25 Wow, that line sounded great! I’ve never heard voice acting so good! (Facepalms.)
😂
Why didn't they have him do another take?
@@starbutterfly9036 because this is on purpose. Sonic is being sarcastic.
It's as serious as Woody from Toy Story
@@montmito It’s honestly one of the better lines in the game (a low bar, but a bar nonetheless)
I like that this game gives a sense of teamwork between characters
I don’t care what the haters say, I enjoyed this game start to finish
You are beyond right =)
HEs Keyboarding Me too
No
cool, how come?
HEs Keyboarding hey man I don’t hate the game. Is it perfect? No, not in my opinion but it’s not “bad” either. Honestly would’ve gotten it if I had the money...
Tails: True Dat
Me: WTF
I don't get it
Keri Tartaglia It’s fucking cringy
@@bluerious5475 What's cringy about it? Is it a dated expression or something?
(Genuine question, English isn't my native language and I always thought it was as normal as saying "that's true" or something like that)
Gabo2oo I mean it is a pretty commonly used term, but a cringe is essentially a term for a reaction of disgust or emberrasment, typically when your face scrunches up and your body jerks back. In this scenario, Tails saying “True dat” gives off a feeling of disgust due to how dated the statement is, and how it makes Sega feel like they’re trying to hard to appeal to kids.
Dated? Who the hell says that? Education these days is failing people.
But you must admit eggman stepped up his game by a lot
Indeed Eggman actually learnt
How is this a step up when his previous inventions required Super Sonic to defeat and one of them even went against Hyper Sonic when this one only required Double Boost or Triple Boost?
Dunno if I could agree with that. We didn't see how he accomplished anything
So next goal is to attempt to rule the universe?
I meam he already did built a theme park TWICE(unleashed and Colors) and now he ruled the world(forces)
The guy is taking steps. Sonic better be on his feet for this one lol
1:03:05 This is where the fun begins.
1:03:51 I bet Omega’s previous VAs would be proud of Vic.
1:06:52 WAIT!! Did Shadow just.....
What?
@@evpla Seriously?
Two years and waited for a "What?"
@@evpla Smiled
@@santranquil Sorry, it happens.
The game was actually pretty decent. Yeah, some of the gameplay mechanics were wonky, and some of the dialogue is cheesy, but it's still pretty decent. Honestly, the biggest issue I had with the game was the way the story was presented (as well as the quality of the cutscenes.)
Soru98 with sonic, cheesiness is a given so I just accept it in a world where your main character is a fast blue Hedgehog. But yeah the story seemed...I dunno..I feel like they tried too much to have the OC to be so plot important. I can see it easily working as a online multiplayer thing. Just not as the story, the focus should,d have been on modern and classic sonic , especially since Mania and forces are connected. That and the final boss..wasted potential . Eggman says he's surpassed infinite and uses the lasers and rocks only. I would have had Eggman at first use a combo of the Death Egg Robot and Dragoon and the final phase would have been Eggman using the Ruby to roboticise himself . But what we got was copy and paste wisp nega armour
Soru98 if you think this game should be considered decent I worry
I feel as if the focus should have been on Shadow mainly. Shadow was the one who made Infinite go crazy saying "I am not weak!" making him seek more power so he could crush everybody. If Infinite wanted revenge on anybody, it would be Shadow. This game should've been Shadow the Hedgehog instead.
Good idea, wrong execution. That's sorta what happened. But still a good game
Of all the current playthroughs on RUclips, I gotta say, this one has the least ugly Avatar.
this game was... decent. i expected a better storyline but whatever
This was one of the worse games I played this year. Short campaign with a story about on par with fanfictions, clunky controls, stupid avatar creation and painful dialogue.
Charlie Dickson i actually liked the avatar creation but i agree with the rest
it's like they released it early. people buy it and look forward to more. welp
Great idea, wrong execution
Some Guy Down the Street That's my thoughts as well. Mediocre game, but I loved it nonetheless.
Wait a fucking second how is Omega fixed In the finale battle with Infinite. He was broken, who the hell repaired him cause Tails' obviously gave up and ran off with classic why isn't this explained!
Um...uh....consistency? I give up
i.imgur.com/8GshFY9.png
Because potatoes.
Numbuh1234 I love you.
Numbuh1234 I saw that before actually
53:20 lmao, I love the zoom in to his face
I do really like the cutscene of Sonic getting air juggled by the baddies. I liked how it flowed and the coreography, and it at least made some sense to have Sonic beaten like that.
GOD THESE CUTSCENES LOOK BEAUTIFUL-
Anichibi.Fangirl Yeah it's like a movie even when we start playing the game
dead oc eyes
well i grew up with unleashed, saw colours when i was a bit older and then enjoyed generations. my standards are high and this game, at best, was just another colours
Are you serious? They look like shit.
Erick Lappara
“4 years developing this game”
at this point its either they did this game in 4 months and didnt even try, or they did this in 4 years and it still looks bad
idk whats worse
Am I the only one who actually liked this game? And Silver's voice? Gotta love those voice cracks.
Freedom Planet Fan No, this game is one of the best Sonic games we’ve had in a while! Don’t listen to the hatebrats as they’re nothing but attention seeking trolls with no lives and hate on Sonic only cause they think it makes them look cool when in reality it makes them look like a complete trashy loser!
It's honestly not a terrible game at all. I liked it actually ^^ it's a tad bit flawed, but it's decent
I love silver but i dont quite understand how or why he is here...it didn't suppose that he was from the future?
Power to you, man. I wish I could do the same...
@@DumuziTheOriginalGod How Ironic. You don't like it when they hate on a game, but then you insult them.
21:45 I love this friggin hedgehog
It's been over a month and I'm still so damn mad because the concept is so good and this could've been so great but it just isn't. I mean, they didn't show a single freaking scene of Sonic in imprisonment! I've been waiting years to see that dammit. And he wasn't affected at all by it either. Better release, what do I know, a movie or something or have Sonic Boom S3 parody it... anything, as long as I get something.
Oh well... I guess it's at least teased by Infinite that Sonic in fact _was_ kinda scared by him so he didn't go through everything completely unaffected.
1. They did show him imprisonned
2. By torturing they meant showing him how Eggman was slowly conquering the entire world and seeing his friends and people being captured and sometimes killed.
3. Sonic has always been known to be strong self-steem
The cutscene in green hill was the one that made the most sense to me. This is war god fucking damnit. Of course Infinite being overconfident is a cause for concern. But this is a Sonic game. Perhaps i'm asking for too much.
ThePerfectChaos
Torture: noun
-The action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.
verb
-inflict severe pain on
I think you confused torture with mockery
Pain is not always related to physical hurt
ThePerfectChaos I know, but I doubt Eggman mentally messed with Sonic due to the fact he's still wise-cracking as usual and Eggman would more likely taunt Sonic than to psychologically screw with him
53:18 oh his face!😂
I’m dying from laughter right now!😂
Sakiara 27 So am I XD
Sakiara 27 He’s SO HAPPY to be useful! XD
Dumuzi Nibiru XD
JJAJAIAJAJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASI.O.NO
30:19
Sonic Forces in a nutshell.
Wine knot yee
Charmy B. Benson Dude I am subscribing, liking, commenting, all that bee-cuz of your profile pic.
I love this plot so much I don't care what anyone says
Yanniode Peri-Okonny I like you. Probably the only best comment.
DarkSonic180 Jesus, I don't even like the plot but would y'all let him have his opinion? It is an OPINION after all.
DarkSonic180 right....but do you not understand how OPINIONS work? Lmao
DarkSonic180 you only care about your opinion?? cool then leave theirs alone.
DarkSonic180 lmao okay so then you do care about others opinions? at least enough to call them shitty? gotcha.
EggMan:Since you ALWAYS destroy the power source of my weapons,I decided to learn from my mistakes.
Me:So wait,you're saying that you NEVER learn from your mistakes?
“HECK, it’s good to see any sonic!”
Are you sure about that? *iNtEnSe mOviE design before the redesign*
Well at least that guy will lay many many many eggs which will all hatch and create an army of monsters on thier side.
Why did that trigger my fight or flight reflexes?-
Definitely better than '06.
Nope.
sonic 06 tired something new with its story and stuck with it...in this sonic is revealed to be alive and fine by the second mission. At that point the game plays out exactly as you would expect. Sonic 06 was better, and I fucking hate sonic 06...
Taylor Michelle you can’t be more wrong. Yeah, Sonic 06 has a great and strong story, but Forces’s story and gameplay is right on point!
FLAMING RAGE
So your telling me, Sonic 06, a game that is literally unfinished, broken and buggy, is better than Forces? How? I know it's your opinion but I can't see how 06 is a better game. 06 is objectively worse. Forces is at the very least finished. It runs smoothly and isn't that buggy(from what I've seen). 06 on the other hand suffers from constant slowdown, long loading times, buggy gameplay and game breaking elements. I just don't see how you, or anyone, can say Forces is worse. 06 was rushed.It lacks polish and is overall an unfinished game. Forces ain't great, but to say that it's worse than 06 is an exaggeration.
I agree that the game was a complete shit show but the reason i have so much more hate for this game is because, when i finished it i was so angry that it was that short AND that the game started with a interesting premise but refused to deliver and just trailed off. Plays 06 made me want to shoot myself but the story managed to keep me engaged because tried new stuff and stuck with it. I mean in 06 sonic straight died via impalement, true he is resurrected in the most controversial sonic scene ever but still. In forces they says hes been tortured but when you seen sonic, he is the same as always. No change in him at all after 6 months of torture. The reason id rather play 06 is because the story at least tried the whole way through, in forces you knew exactly what would happen the second sonic is brought back into the story. Plus...infinite's god awful backstory....seriously.
Sonic escapes and then proceeded to talk to himself in space it's nice knowing that he went nuts being tortured
Players character deadass destroys like 90 Robots during game play but gives up when faces by 3 during a cutscene. Oh geez
The most surprising thing is to have a Sonic game where the Chaos Emeralds are completely absent.
30:55 “we’re locked down under heavy Anime fire”
Guys I’m so sorry but these comments are hilarious I can’t stop laughing😂😂
20:59 this line should be a meme, i know silver has already had his meme and all but this line is very memeable
53:17 The best part xDD I've never thought I would laugh so hard because of Sonic game xD
Sonic was tortured for 6 months , *he was in this game so exactly .*
SILVER! FINALLY HE’S ACTUALLY IN A GAME!! Also at the end Shadows just in the background like: “To much happy here.” Lol
1:03:05 I just Can’t believe that this game released in 2017 and they litterally predicted the final battle on avengers endgame until 2019!!!!
Awesome Detail that they added Tails leading the citizens to a escape route at 1:52 in the background, I like the Nice Touch
53:19 😂😂😂😂😂😂
ROOKIE: Wait.............WHAT!?!?!?!?!!!
jane the cat LOL
That is funny but i'm glad he's in the mission
Wow, this game was...
Really, really lack luster. It's Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite all over again.
Well, they both have Infinite.
Honestly, as much as I enjoy this concept of playing your own avatar, they REALLY should’ve made this game more on the concept of playing the cast of Sonic characters shown here, I mean HOW COOL would it be to get to do that again like in the original games?! Find a way to combine all the different parts of each character’s gameplay from the Adventure Series, add in Silver’s setup from ‘06, heck bring back the Sonic Heroes concept and set up Team Modes for a brief period, WE HAD Team Chaotix here again!! I could’ve just pictured this being pretty amazing to play through on Story Mode
7:09 That theme from Sonic Mania is perfect for Classic Sonic.
Just makes you wish you were playing that *WAAAAAY* better game!
Don't you love it when you find out shadow is good in a sonic game
What are you talking about? Shadow was always good.
But he’s also evil
There were many questions I had in this game (EVEN THOUGH I LOVE IT)
1.) why doesn't silver have a DLC episode? He saw this coming before anyone! That's why he went to knuckles. Not to mention its his 11th ANNIVERSARY!!
2.) Silver is perfectly capable of taking down all those robots! SEGA just wanted sonic to look cool as usual. I love sonic but cmon Sega
3.) What was the point of classic sonic exactly?! He doesn't really do anything
That's all. I really love this game though. Now let's wait for a Silver the Hedgehog game
Silver/Nick part of me wants one.... the other part is scared that it will be worse than Shadow the Hedgehog in both story and gameplay..
Cora M nah silver is one of the most interesting characters. Especially with his psychokinesis. I think we should try it out and convince SEGA
Glad to see Silver back😊
1:04:42 Wow! 4.5 billion years into the future already? That was fast.
One of the best animated movies
"Yesterday is the past"
"Tomorrow is a mystery"
"Today is a gift"
we need sonic heroes 2!
We need the sonic series funeral.
Look at all those eggman's robots
WHERE SONIC HEROES
There so many of them!
True Video Game Critic You're a Nintendo fan, aren't you?
53:15 THATS THE SECOND BEST PART OF THE GAME!!! Besides the song.
Was it Silver talking for a little while or was it the gray guy opening his mouth?
Infinte: Sonic has been beating you for decades
Sonic: Oh yeah bam ur down
I love how he just zooms in on the rookie’s face 53:22
This is pretty good!
(Also thousandth comment. Sorry but I had to say it)
53:25
What in the name of the Chaos Emeralds is *tHAT FACE*
He’s *happi*
I like how the shadow that comes with metal, chaos, zavock, and infinite just stands there and doesn't attack.
53:18
Me and My Uncle Fred were laughing so hard
and he made a face similar and said:"Your gonna kill me" and/or "You making me do What now?!"
32:16 "The enemies on the run!"
Badniks: "Or are we?"
1:18:03 I guess Eggman didn't appreciate the tetris battle in Mania. :/
Miles Prower My best friend told me the same thing like this but he thinks the purple blocks look like Tetris blocks
Its poyo poyo
1:17:25 *facepalm* how many tries did it take to get this quality line just so perfect?
*v o i c e c r a c k*
Why was he floating away?