in the reveal cinematic sora is shown flying around in the air above everyone else, this is a subtle nod to the fact that sora never actually needs to touch the fucking ground in game
I think it is really cool that they took the time to recognize that Kazuya fans would like a more complicated character to learn, while Sora fans are more varied and would need to be easier to learn. It really shows that Sakurai cares about his playerbase.
@@IIIISai yeah in the kh games there are different kinds of black there's keyblade blocks which only blocks in front of you. Then there are shield bubbles which cover every direction sora in general does keyblade block with exception here and there.
If its soranetta then i wish it didnt happen. A true Sora could up b and side b 3 times. Lets be honest that would be cooler. Imagine all of the very fair and balanced true universal 0 to deaths
@@dippin4dots hopefully the next smash game isnt fucking awful like the last 3 actively going out of their way to not give us a good netcode/take away advanced tech
Plus Bayonetta smash 4 comboing meta knight air control from brawl and every bad unpatched or character that has existed plus a beginner difficulty meaning he's very very easy to master
If I’m being honest if that ground pound was accurate to the game Sora would be even more crazy because in kh2 that move can lift someone in the air so you can combo them
@@mr.person1219 it's not the same smash attack. His smash attack in SSF2 is a magic attack. I can't remember what it was of, but it wasn't this attack. And he doesn't have it in the other parts of his moveset either.
@@Gamersgoinblind It depends where I think most majors dont have it though But I know a few locals and regionals who do, but they tend to remove Kalos if they include NC since they are similar
I wish more people here in America played kjngdom hearts they should’ve known there was no way they weren’t gonna add one of the mp attacks but I’d rather have ars arcanum or ragnarok
@@matthewwysong644 imagine instead of a normal ultimate they could’ve gave him the ultima blade and 2+ more air and ground combo attacks and 1 more use of a special in the air
"the ice one doesn't seem too good," later will proceed to run off ledge and freeze opponent whos over 100 for the easy kill and make it back before they even spawn back in lmao i can't wait for sora!
@@SuperDS6424 I feel that since Sora has a super floaty second jump, he might just forward air combo them until they break out of ice. I feel like blizzaga will be great against moves like Wolf side B which doesn't always hit ledge.
You have to memorize the rotation tho. Its easy enough to read and therefore anticipate. Also easy to accidentally forget you cast it already and use fire instead of frost.
I find it hilarious that you made that connection with bayo! And it’s strangely poetic, Bayo is of the darkness, and sora is now like a Light version of her!😂
I like how sakurai passively aggressively says thanks for all the musicians. I’m sure our fans are pleased w the music they received. Knowing damn well everyone only wanted simple n clean. Sakurai salty for not being able to get that copyright
Yeah, even if he looks similar to bayo, he doesn't look he could pull out true consistent 0-deaths easily like smash 4 bayo did, and is counter isn't nearly as busted. I don't think sora will be nearly as good as 4 bayo even if he turns out to be top tier.
I do still think he'll be top tier though. A DLC airborne fighter in the smash game that's arguably the most focused on aerials? He's gotta be really good.
Its fine, he's lighter than Isabelle. The kit is all pulled from the games btw. Dante would've been just as stupid if they added him. That's just the reality of trying to implement hack and slash characters into a fighting game. Granted, Sora's from an action RPG, but its basically just a hack and slash with extra steps.
@@JXZX1 I think it depends on the dmc game you're comparing the kh series too, because dmc 5 has 4 playable characters each with unique play styles and Dante in that game can play 4 different styles himself and can switch them along with his weapons mid fight. Nero's style changes with the arm you have equipped aswell.
I really wanted Phoenix Wright, Doom guy, Master Chief, King Boo or Waluigi to be the final smash character and I don’t really like Sora but at least we can all agree on one thing... HELL YEAH IT WASN’T JONESY LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO!
honestly, they should probably count their blessings that it's KH1 Sora... he's the most basic of the variations. KH2FM Sora is a MONSTER of a combo fiend on the ground (and he kinda needs to be if you know anything about the Data Battles and Lingering Will), making the FE fighters Dancing Blades look very plain by comparison, and triggering a Drive form instantly heals him. KH3 Sora with his Keyblade transformations would laugh at Byleth's mere four weapons, and show what a true Weapon Master is like (especially when you look at top combo videos with keyblade switching). seriously, he could have been scarier...
@BroD u watched the trailer ? He has barely no combo there’s like throw/dtilt into one aerial and maybe afterward up b if you’re lucky that’s all he can do
True. BUT... Plant is trash. Joker, YES. Hero... COULD be when blessed. No PGR players use Banjo. No one said Terry is busted. Everyone was pissed about Byleth and besides the fact Leo uses them, they're mid-tier. Everyone was just happy to have Steve. People DID say Sephiroth was busted (they might be right) even pros think he might need minor nerfs. And Kazuya people said: "Yeah, he could be busted if you maximize him and some pro is willing to spend time perfecting him and his library of moves." Now we have Sora, and he, other than being light, looks like Bayonetta, Hero and Mewtwo had a baby. So... MAYBE?
@@herewego5679 haha, either way, I'll try him. His weakness seems his ability to kill mid stage and his weight. I main Hero and always will, but Sora looks fun.
@@marin9412 Yea, but alot of combo heavy characters are weak. Sheik for example. His main issue is gonna be his weight. Bowser mains are gonna one-shot Key boi.
24:48 Yeah Sora is pretty cool and all but are we going to ignore the fact that Hungrybox just discovered the rising short hop aerial with jump + attack button after 3 yers and a half of playing the game at HIGH level???
Yeah he has some decent results in Ultimate, I was surprised too. But I'm not judging at all, dude is a goat in Smash for a reason. He obviously didn't need it lol.
I mean, its easy to forget. It's completely unnecessary for a pro who can get the correct inputs consistently, especially one who played Melee extensively and can play a game that doesn't hold your hand. I for one played the game fairly consistently for a while and completely forgot that was a thing since I never used it.
@@notalive5479 you may be right he may be use to the melee inputs, but for every one else is a basic and common input i am not the best at this game but i use it all the time to do short hop rising aerials or just rising aerials when in the air. I am curius what imputs did you use? A shoulder jump button + the tilt stick?
@@gaarahuntergs3478 I tend to not mess with controls very often, all I changed was tap jump and tilt stick (I used a Gamecube controller, so that means my jump was Y/X). I never used the jump + attack at the same time for a guaranteed short hop, instead I tried to short hop normally and than attack immediately after like you would in pervious smash games. I completely forgot the short-hop attack input was even a thing. I would guess its the same thing with Hbox, he just used the inputs he always had and forgot. It doesn't get mentioned anywhere and it isn't strictly necessary, so it's an easy thing to do.
I will keep maining Sephiroth, but definitely picking Sora quite often just because he looks very fun and the nostalgia, despite the potential busted or weak character he might be in the final product. Thanks for everything Sakurai and people from Smash ❤️
wait lmao I just noticed that for Sora's dive to the heart background in the stage, they literally replaced Donald and Goofy's portraits with the KH1 raft and a paopu fruit. They really didn't get any Disney IPs thank god
With the new Kingdom Hearts Stage we can now make a legit Hazards On Stagelist, the stages being: Battlefield Small BF Final Destination Smashville Town & City Fountain of Dreams Northern Cave Hollow Bastion (New Stage) I never played Kingdom Hearts but Sora cool, I can’t wait to play him.
You notice how the characters that are nightmare level are the ones WE asked for? Like Sakurai said, "Oh, you want this character? I'll make you regret it." 😆
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate Sakurai and the work he has put into this game? He managed to get so many amazing fighters into this game and bring back every fighter. This may be the last smash game that he directs, so thank you Sakurai!
I really wanted Phoenix Wright, Doom guy, Master Chief, King Boo or Waluigi to be the final smash character and I don’t really like Sora but at least we can all agree on one thing... HELL YEAH IT WASN’T JONESY LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO!
@@TheKorenji yes and sora looks decent, not like bayonetta, when sakurai show her, the combo looks hard to escape and was true, with sora looks easy to escape because its like Pikachu up b but kinda slow
Just some background. I'm Indie developer who has been playing smash since 64, and my dad was a well established analyst who tried to tear apart my ideas. I kinda picked some if it up. Sora, I see an edge guarding champion + recovery champion, distance camping, (before player discover combo) he's got built in combos out of box, good knockback/stun that will lead to combos, great recovery, and he's got a counter for more edge guarding. This character is going to be broken. He doesn't even have to be near you to edge guard you off stage especially meeting you in air. He's got got to have thunder in his pocket. Sora is a combination of Beyonetta and Pikachu with camping and a counter. He's going to be broken. I predict new high tier on this one especially with his popularity and everyone jumping in to try to break game with him. Lightweight who cares meta knight was lightweight. He's got way on stage as long as he's not dead! By December you'll be asking why Nintendo thought some of the things I am pointing out right now were good ideas.
HungryBox: One of his combos doesn't do much damage. You just have to hit him hard and stay on the ground in smash bros. I'm Jigglypuff main. I live in the air and have near as much knock back. All I have to say is this isn't sonic. It doesn't seem to have a knockback problem or a damage problem save the one combo you noticed. Sonic got lots of speed + recovery and then the hit him hard in the damage. Best I can tell Sora doing more damage than Sonic + everything else in the package. His DPS seems up to par with his buddies Cloud and Seph. I'm thinking there is some damage authority behind those moves. I'm reluctant to say it but even thinking metabuster.
@@Kara-de5cz With how much movement and flexibility Sora has, I think the issue will just be hitting him if somebody can use him correctly. Sure he can be offed quick, but now try offing him while he's flying around you, and faking you out lol
i think thats broken but the difference is that bayo also had witch time, Sora's counter isnt that good compared to smash 4 witch time and the buffered air dodges from ult make floaties way more vulnerable so i think this character is actually well thought
Exactly. I think he'll be a very good character, but not absolutely busted or absent of weaknesses. Regardless if he ends up high tier or low tier, I'm still playing him.
I'm ready for the Sora grind! He's been my most wanted character, and he practically is my playstyle, because my "requirements" for a character are: a fantastic recovery, a good combo game, & great Edge-guarding, and Sora probably has the best recovery in the game, now.
He's actually super not my playstyle. I play heavies with low to no combo game and decent to bad recoveries, but I grew up with KH so you can bet I'm going to try to understand how these combo characters work.
I think he will end up right around Byleth. Some top player will be able to pick him up and make him look oppressive but in reality that is just the player not the character.
Honestly, ngl, Sora reminded me of Bayonetta with his Side B and Up B. Def needs to see how optimized he can get, and whether he has any dumb death combos lol But regardless, Sora was my most wanted char by far, so hype that he got in as the Final Smash Character
I can see the resemblance in how it looks, but how it works is nothing like bayo. The hits, the knock back, the percentage, the usage, everything is different other than fast dashing through opponent.
Call me a sadist, but I want Sora to come out, and there will be no more balance patches. Something about Sora busting the meta (if he's able) is hilarious to me.
To y’all complaining about him, he’s accurate to his game. Sora Is just as floaty and has as much air control as in the original but yes he is very weak physically
don't see anyone talking about how villager can literally become Zeus. can't wait to see art of villager floating in the air, glowing eyes, ready to smite somebody just because they put literal lightning in their fucking pockets.
I’m a Bayo main (calm down, I never played, nor will ever play smash 4), so I’m pretty excited for Sora despite never playing Kingdom Hearts, but I’m also crossing my fingers that the Smash team learned from last time...
My heart really thought ma boi Tabuu was going to be the character when all the other ones were in their trophy form, but still Sora looks hella fun I can’t wait to play him!
32:00 Sora has a high double jump, but I think it's important to mention the fact that during his animations, his feet are extended pretty far in both directions. Making his hurtbox massive in the air. Most characters have their body parts close to them when they are in the air, but this might be as big of a weakness as him being a lightweight or a floaty
I'll be honest, I was disappointed at first to learn that the last DLC was Sora as there is no nostalgia with me because I never played kingdom hearts. However, seeing his moveset, and (my favourite) areal playstyle, I can't wait for him to come out! Nice job, Nintendo!
Sora is probably the first DLC that is actually balanced. Lightweight with an incredible kit that's really meant for aerial combat, but can be killed rather easily. Sure, he has the Bayo ladder, but it's not that broken 🤣
Top 25 is my prediction!
Maybe top of Upper Mid / Bottom of High
I approuve it
Probably, he looks decent
I feel like every smash player saw the side b and had flashbacks of Bayo
Some, PTSD flashbacks
top 10
Huh, seems fair enough.
in the reveal cinematic sora is shown flying around in the air above everyone else, this is a subtle nod to the fact that sora never actually needs to touch the fucking ground in game
The ground isn't meant for Chads
Someone commented the same thing on nanogenix‘s Video
I think it's just a reference of how he can fly in the Neverland worlds and in that one boss fight at The End of the World.
It also can be seen as a victory lap around all the other smash characters for being the final one to get in.
Well he can fly using tinkerbell’s pixie dust in the games
My heart stopped when I saw that he could ladder combo just like bayo.
guys, can we report @Need 491 mor sub ?
Same
@@TheKorenji yeah
History repeats itself. Bayo was the last fighter in 4 too lol
We all got flashbacks
"Sora is busted"
Pre-patched SSF2 Sora: "Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of my power"
I'm just glad he doesn't throw his keyblade otherwise I'd be hyper ventilating
Im glad someone else sees the similarities, besides his fire special attack and neutral B. Those are the only differences I think and his up B
SSF2 Sora is surprisingly almost exactly like this, except a lot stronger.
lol faaacts
What is aizen doing here💀
I think it is really cool that they took the time to recognize that Kazuya fans would like a more complicated character to learn, while Sora fans are more varied and would need to be easier to learn. It really shows that Sakurai cares about his playerbase.
This is the worst shit I’ve read all year can’t lie
@@RayZin how
@@RayZin then read more
@@RayZin elaborate
@@RayZin I guess you don't read much
I always hated counter, but with Sora's inclusion I've become the very thing I've swore to destroy
I'm just glad it has a blind spot
@@IIIISai yeah in the kh games there are different kinds of black there's keyblade blocks which only blocks in front of you. Then there are shield bubbles which cover every direction sora in general does keyblade block with exception here and there.
@@habijjj OH that's interesting
No you're wrong tbey did sora wrong g not making his counter reflaga
@@NoNstoPNero Hard agree, I don't like that he has a counter to begin with but if they had to add it at least make it reflect dangit
Any hit off stage that isn't immediately into the smash zone is basically:
Sora: "I didn't hear no bell."
Taking the meaning of “Sora” a bit seriously, huh Sakurai?
The thing is... This is how he actualy fights.
It's true to how he plays in his own games
@Need 491 mor sub silence bot
Eh they tried to make it as close to the game with his air control
Bayo has been reincarnated as male may god have mercy on all of your souls
Sakurai when Sora releases: Screw it, Sora can do his side and up b twice
He can up b twice?
@@deadpoolinthehouse he will
If its soranetta then i wish it didnt happen. A true Sora could up b and side b 3 times. Lets be honest that would be cooler. Imagine all of the very fair and balanced true universal 0 to deaths
He can only side b out of up b.
He cannot up b out of side b.
So no up b twice.
@@doggindr1 but what if he could?
Sakurai was so excited for this himself.
Iwata was alive when the idea of bringing him in was pitched. He 100% deserves to get excited of finally adding him in his game.
Yeah, he was able to convince Disney... to get sora
Bayo has been reincarnated as male may god have mercy on all of your souls
Yeah, he can finally sleep after 9 years. Hope next smash game gets at least 5 years before development starts.
@@dippin4dots hopefully the next smash game isnt fucking awful like the last 3 actively going out of their way to not give us a good netcode/take away advanced tech
Sora is an unholy mix of Cloud, Pikachu, and Jigglypuff and I don’t know if I’m terrified or excited for that combo
Is the floatiness the jiggs? Id consider him more like Mewtwo
Don't forget the Bayo B and B inside that mix
More like, Bayonetta, Shulk and Hero
Plus Bayonetta smash 4 comboing meta knight air control from brawl and every bad unpatched or character that has existed plus a beginner difficulty meaning he's very very easy to master
Might as well throw hero in there as well because of his magic
If I’m being honest if that ground pound was accurate to the game Sora would be even more crazy because in kh2 that move can lift someone in the air so you can combo them
KH Sora is broken as hell. That had to nerf him lol
So Sora's ground pound in SSF2 is like what you stated. There could be a chance to consistantly juggle the opponent by bouncing on them.
His entire move set is exactly like him in the games, that makes me love this addition even more
@@mr.person1219 it's not the same smash attack. His smash attack in SSF2 is a magic attack. I can't remember what it was of, but it wasn't this attack. And he doesn't have it in the other parts of his moveset either.
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 His down throw.
"We finally have a neutral"
Northern Crater goes to cry in the corner.
NC is legal but isnt neutral
While Hollow Bastion actually is legal and also feels neutral due to not favoring any specific type of character
@@pinkyclaudie5450 i thought it was banned?
Mostly because I never saw it in tournaments
@@Gamersgoinblind It depends where
I think most majors dont have it though
But I know a few locals and regionals who do, but they tend to remove Kalos if they include NC since they are similar
Roxas as a clone would be dope, but I’m good with just Sora.
This was the perfect send off for Smash, no other character woulda been this epic
Waluigi or crash
Waluigi would have been epic but it never would’ve happened
@@justsayin._. yeah, why have a unique character when we could have long mario?
@@reeferrick2635 long Mario could've been sports Mario instead of bayo 2
@Drago Slayer I’ve never met you before and I acknowledged he wouldn’t be getting in.. bruh chill out lol
The chat spamming that he will be mid tier, then instantly changing their minds when side b is revealed makes my day.
I wish more people here in America played kjngdom hearts they should’ve known there was no way they weren’t gonna add one of the mp attacks but I’d rather have ars arcanum or ragnarok
@@jrena9443 Ragnarok would have been a cooler Final Smash, tbh.
@@matthewwysong644 imagine instead of a normal ultimate they could’ve gave him the ultima blade and 2+ more air and ground combo attacks and 1 more use of a special in the air
@@matthewwysong644 or even just zantetsuken
Same lol
"the ice one doesn't seem too good," later will proceed to run off ledge and freeze opponent whos over 100 for the easy kill and make it back before they even spawn back in lmao i can't wait for sora!
Shhhhhhhh
That's a strat you and only you should know
That won't work against good opponents, there's not enough range. Besides his recovery us good but slow, they'll definitely have respawned by then.
@@nicc8451 iced opponents are floatier than normal falling. high % freezing off stage and returning for neutral is very doable
@@SuperDS6424 I feel that since Sora has a super floaty second jump, he might just forward air combo them until they break out of ice. I feel like blizzaga will be great against moves like Wolf side B which doesn't always hit ledge.
You have to memorize the rotation tho. Its easy enough to read and therefore anticipate. Also easy to accidentally forget you cast it already and use fire instead of frost.
I find it hilarious that you made that connection with bayo! And it’s strangely poetic, Bayo is of the darkness, and sora is now like a Light version of her!😂
Fun fact: in KH1 if you defeat cloud in the Olympus coliseum, he gives you sonic blade
I'm pretty sure he just gives it to you after you beat Cerberus.
@@zombyjano yeah, only if you beat him first. If you lose to cloud before fighting Cerberus, then he won't give you sonic blade
Pretty sure I beat Cloud first cause I found out the ability to grind in that game is a bit absurd.
@@zichithefox4781 good job!👍
I like how sakurai passively aggressively says
thanks for all the musicians. I’m sure our fans are pleased w the music they received.
Knowing damn well everyone only wanted simple n clean. Sakurai salty for not being able to get that copyright
The copyrights were complicated and dirty
"I want to say it is not his mass, but his characteristics that make him this way"
Never change Sakurai
Even if the attack are kinda similar to bayo, he still looking decent to me, not broken
Yeah, even if he looks similar to bayo, he doesn't look he could pull out true consistent 0-deaths easily like smash 4 bayo did, and is counter isn't nearly as busted. I don't think sora will be nearly as good as 4 bayo even if he turns out to be top tier.
The major problem I see with Sora is that he's floaty af and light.
I do still think he'll be top tier though. A DLC airborne fighter in the smash game that's arguably the most focused on aerials? He's gotta be really good.
@@ampkenryu7145 yeah, thats make him a Little balanced, all broken dlc should be ligth to pair matchups
@@allanasifuina896 Character weights in smash games are so freaking weird. I still don't get why they decided to make Min Min a heavyweight.
they kinda forgot to show dash attack but you can see it when sakurai played him
yeah it looks like his Sliding Dash ability from KH1FM right?
@@malcolmotoole uhm i havent played kingdom hearts yet but nice to know!
Sora:
The only dlc character that was actually properly balanced
It’s interesting how the first character in smash bros. is the one to reveal the final character in smash ultimate.
I was in class when I searched up “ smash dlc “ and when I saw I screamed and went to the office
Was it worth it?
@@mid7752 everything… everything..
it do be like that sometimes
Screamed too. Felt a little bad though scared the crap out of my dog lol.
Its fine, he's lighter than Isabelle.
The kit is all pulled from the games btw. Dante would've been just as stupid if they added him. That's just the reality of trying to implement hack and slash characters into a fighting game. Granted, Sora's from an action RPG, but its basically just a hack and slash with extra steps.
Kinda but character action games allow for more flexibility then something like kh if anything dante would end up being complicated like kazuya.
Dante would’ve probably been sephiroth 2.0 mixed with joker
They perfectly fit dante and virgil in umvc3
It's not that difficult
@@habijjj You haven't played KH2 and 3, then.
Game has some insane complexity and variety of playstyles. Easily as much as DMC.
@@JXZX1 I think it depends on the dmc game you're comparing the kh series too, because dmc 5 has 4 playable characters each with unique play styles and Dante in that game can play 4 different styles himself and can switch them along with his weapons mid fight. Nero's style changes with the arm you have equipped aswell.
Rip doom guy he was my most wanted. But I’m glad kh fans are happy.
Be happy that your being the ideal smash fan here
Thank you I hope you can have at least a little fun with the mii costume
Respect to you for that. I know that feeling.
I really wanted Phoenix Wright, Doom guy, Master Chief, King Boo or Waluigi to be the final smash character and I don’t really like Sora but at least we can all agree on one thing... HELL YEAH IT WASN’T JONESY LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO!
Sadge. He will be in our heaRts :( and also in our mii fighter
The year is 20KH.
All Little Mac and Incinerator mains have been poached to near extinction by the Sky Hunters...
Frame 1 heavy armor ftw, ain't climbing no ladders anytime soon 👌
I'm terrified to play Mac nowadays
If someone if is getting beat by sora and says his combos are to good clearly hasn't seen kingdom hearts gameplay
Berserk Charge Horizontal Slash, lol.
His combos seems like shit ngl
@@marin9412 only if you aren’t good at combos
honestly, they should probably count their blessings that it's KH1 Sora... he's the most basic of the variations.
KH2FM Sora is a MONSTER of a combo fiend on the ground (and he kinda needs to be if you know anything about the Data Battles and Lingering Will), making the FE fighters Dancing Blades look very plain by comparison, and triggering a Drive form instantly heals him.
KH3 Sora with his Keyblade transformations would laugh at Byleth's mere four weapons, and show what a true Weapon Master is like (especially when you look at top combo videos with keyblade switching).
seriously, he could have been scarier...
@BroD u watched the trailer ? He has barely no combo there’s like throw/dtilt into one aerial and maybe afterward up b if you’re lucky that’s all he can do
I love Sora's simple design. I'm not a competitive player so a break from the complicated and hard to learn characters is nice
I suppose you could call it Simple and Clean. Aight I'ma head out. :3
He looks like he has a relatively simple moveset, but I imagine some players are gonna come up with some really saucy combos.
Finally, been waiting for this one
"is he busted?" The first 3 words that pops into every pro smash players mind when there's a new character reveal
True. BUT... Plant is trash. Joker, YES. Hero... COULD be when blessed. No PGR players use Banjo. No one said Terry is busted. Everyone was pissed about Byleth and besides the fact Leo uses them, they're mid-tier. Everyone was just happy to have Steve. People DID say Sephiroth was busted (they might be right) even pros think he might need minor nerfs. And Kazuya people said: "Yeah, he could be busted if you maximize him and some pro is willing to spend time perfecting him and his library of moves." Now we have Sora, and he, other than being light, looks like Bayonetta, Hero and Mewtwo had a baby. So... MAYBE?
@@obmarte3803 yes
Seriously ? SORA seem kinda weak
@@herewego5679 haha, either way, I'll try him. His weakness seems his ability to kill mid stage and his weight. I main Hero and always will, but Sora looks fun.
@@marin9412 Yea, but alot of combo heavy characters are weak. Sheik for example. His main issue is gonna be his weight. Bowser mains are gonna one-shot Key boi.
24:48 Yeah Sora is pretty cool and all but are we going to ignore the fact that Hungrybox just discovered the rising short hop aerial with jump + attack button after 3 yers and a half of playing the game at HIGH level???
Yeah he has some decent results in Ultimate, I was surprised too. But I'm not judging at all, dude is a goat in Smash for a reason. He obviously didn't need it lol.
I mean, its easy to forget. It's completely unnecessary for a pro who can get the correct inputs consistently, especially one who played Melee extensively and can play a game that doesn't hold your hand. I for one played the game fairly consistently for a while and completely forgot that was a thing since I never used it.
@@notalive5479 you may be right he may be use to the melee inputs, but for every one else is a basic and common input i am not the best at this game but i use it all the time to do short hop rising aerials or just rising aerials when in the air. I am curius what imputs did you use? A shoulder jump button + the tilt stick?
@@MemeNess me neigther i just find it funny how he forget simple techniques but in the main time he do impossible imputs on melee
@@gaarahuntergs3478 I tend to not mess with controls very often, all I changed was tap jump and tilt stick (I used a Gamecube controller, so that means my jump was Y/X). I never used the jump + attack at the same time for a guaranteed short hop, instead I tried to short hop normally and than attack immediately after like you would in pervious smash games. I completely forgot the short-hop attack input was even a thing. I would guess its the same thing with Hbox, he just used the inputs he always had and forgot. It doesn't get mentioned anywhere and it isn't strictly necessary, so it's an easy thing to do.
Izaw be like: The recovery is below average at best
He literally has 2 recoveries
@@y0n_8 that’s the joke-
@@y0n_8 it’s a joke on how he said the exact same thing to Steve, whose recovery is really good if you master all his tech
@@charKT-7461 if you're low enough, I'm pretty sure you can triple Minecraft back to block range and won't even need to use the up b
My favorite part of everyone's reactions is them not knowing the difference between Reflect and Deflect
Same
I will keep maining Sephiroth, but definitely picking Sora quite often just because he looks very fun and the nostalgia, despite the potential busted or weak character he might be in the final product. Thanks for everything Sakurai and people from Smash ❤️
wait lmao I just noticed that for Sora's dive to the heart background in the stage, they literally replaced Donald and Goofy's portraits with the KH1 raft and a paopu fruit. They really didn't get any Disney IPs thank god
I literally cried 😭. No one is asking the most important question.... kirby hat sora!!!!
Kirby saying the magic commands with his cute voice omg
@@BrokenG-String Pulling out a tiny baby keyblade as well, or at least I hope so
THAT PART
His aerial combo capability is so fukin spot on and we're here for it!
I’m gonna call any combos that use both up B and side B “Soranados”
Dude that's perfect. I'm stealing that if you don't mind
With the new Kingdom Hearts Stage we can now make a legit Hazards On Stagelist, the stages being:
Battlefield
Small BF
Final Destination
Smashville
Town & City
Fountain of Dreams
Northern Cave
Hollow Bastion (New Stage)
I never played Kingdom Hearts but Sora cool, I can’t wait to play him.
thank u sakurai for releasing sora on my birthday :)
18th October for you I assume, right? Where I'm from, he's releasing on the 19th which is my birthday.
At least it doesn’t kill it just looks like your classic fun and high tier character
HAPPY 20TH ANNIVERSARY KINGDOM HEARTS!!!!! SORA YOU DESERVE THE LAST AND FINAL SPOT IN SUPER SMASH BROS. ULTIMATE. 🔥🔥🔥
You notice how the characters that are nightmare level are the ones WE asked for?
Like Sakurai said, "Oh, you want this character? I'll make you regret it." 😆
He looks weak I don’t know where people calling him op come from
@@marin9412 Big agree, the floatiness, lightweight, and slowness of move speed and attacks will destroy this character.
Steve in a nutshell.
Sora: reality can be whatever I want.
Everyone: We want Sora!
Sakurai: Here’s Sora, I made him OP as Hell
Everyone: Maybe asking for him was a bad idea
I mean... yeah, this also happened with Bayo in Europe.
Technically it wasn't him who made Sora broken
I dont really think hes broken..
@@marlonromero4181 Sora isn't anywhere near broken and if you think he is you're an idiot.
Nah
I LOVE the chat's pre and post reaction to the 'bayo' attack at 7:09
I was watching this with a friend in the library and I literally screamed when I saw side B. No regerts
I was wishing for that too, and they made it spamable as well
1:43 TIMELESS RIVER
He's your new main! He's a fusion of jigglypuff, Robin, and Bayonetta with sonics homing skills!
0:18 LESSS GOOOO HUNGRY POG
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate Sakurai and the work he has put into this game? He managed to get so many amazing fighters into this game and bring back every fighter. This may be the last smash game that he directs, so thank you Sakurai!
I really do feel like I can put down a kingdom hearts game and pick this up and Sora would play exactly the same.
theyre so good at character design
Wait why are you here? Small world after all moment.
I really wanted Phoenix Wright, Doom guy, Master Chief, King Boo or Waluigi to be the final smash character and I don’t really like Sora but at least we can all agree on one thing... HELL YEAH IT WASN’T JONESY LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO!
Nintendo really just said "remember smash 4 bayo? Let's do that again but with Sora."
Oh god, the trauma is strong with this one.
It is, indeed :')
Nah
@@allanasifuina896 Ever played Smash 4?
@@TheKorenji yes and sora looks decent, not like bayonetta, when sakurai show her, the combo looks hard to escape and was true, with sora looks easy to escape because its like Pikachu up b but kinda slow
@@allanasifuina896 there's also that he might get changed upon release, perhaps even get nerfed
but then again it was just for the memes
Hero magic + Bayo side B + Link spinny + Kazuya recovery(2nd jump to up B) + Jiggly lightweight
55:19 nice Kermit impression
Just some background. I'm Indie developer who has been playing smash since 64, and my dad was a well established analyst who tried to tear apart my ideas. I kinda picked some if it up. Sora, I see an edge guarding champion + recovery champion, distance camping, (before player discover combo) he's got built in combos out of box, good knockback/stun that will lead to combos, great recovery, and he's got a counter for more edge guarding. This character is going to be broken. He doesn't even have to be near you to edge guard you off stage especially meeting you in air. He's got got to have thunder in his pocket. Sora is a combination of Beyonetta and Pikachu with camping and a counter. He's going to be broken. I predict new high tier on this one especially with his popularity and everyone jumping in to try to break game with him. Lightweight who cares meta knight was lightweight. He's got way on stage as long as he's not dead! By December you'll be asking why Nintendo thought some of the things I am pointing out right now were good ideas.
HungryBox: One of his combos doesn't do much damage. You just have to hit him hard and stay on the ground in smash bros. I'm Jigglypuff main. I live in the air and have near as much knock back. All I have to say is this isn't sonic. It doesn't seem to have a knockback problem or a damage problem save the one combo you noticed. Sonic got lots of speed + recovery and then the hit him hard in the damage. Best I can tell Sora doing more damage than Sonic + everything else in the package. His DPS seems up to par with his buddies Cloud and Seph. I'm thinking there is some damage authority behind those moves. I'm reluctant to say it but even thinking metabuster.
Hungrybox calling everyone broken
Fr tho
Little Macs broken!
Getting "GANONDORF IS BUSTED" vibes tbh
well duh, i find it hilarious
Needs the clicks
'He seems very standard'
Boss music begins playing
Kinda wild how SSF2 low-key already made this moveset lol glad I can play on consoles now
Like 2 moves
He seems like the most fun to play out of all the new season dlc tbh
You don't understand, he became Bayo;
funniest thing I've ever seen
*Something tells me sora doubles are gonna be crazy*
Even if he wasn't that good I'd still try to main him. Been waitin for my BABY BOI to come to smash ever since that survey!
*when sora gets in smash*
Hungrybox:*realizes he will never win an ultimate tornament ever again*
Literally better than his main in every way which is a smack in the face to hbox
@@Emmetlovesredvelvet13 but Puff kills at 35 light characters
@@Kara-de5cz With how much movement and flexibility Sora has, I think the issue will just be hitting him if somebody can use him correctly. Sure he can be offed quick, but now try offing him while he's flying around you, and faking you out lol
@@Zethrae plus while he’s also zoning you with magic lmao
Although there is a chance that hbox is probably still gonna be the best dispute sora being added
i think thats broken but the difference is that bayo also had witch time, Sora's counter isnt that good compared to smash 4 witch time and the buffered air dodges from ult make floaties way more vulnerable so i think this character is actually well thought
Exactly. I think he'll be a very good character, but not absolutely busted or absent of weaknesses. Regardless if he ends up high tier or low tier, I'm still playing him.
I'm ready for the Sora grind!
He's been my most wanted character, and he practically is my playstyle, because my "requirements" for a character are: a fantastic recovery, a good combo game, & great Edge-guarding, and Sora probably has the best recovery in the game, now.
He's actually super not my playstyle. I play heavies with low to no combo game and decent to bad recoveries, but I grew up with KH so you can bet I'm going to try to understand how these combo characters work.
I think he will end up right around Byleth. Some top player will be able to pick him up and make him look oppressive but in reality that is just the player not the character.
I speak for everyone when I say IM MAINING HIM!!!
Oh, deffo XD
I love his taunts.
Btw I was so hype to see the last 3 images of the stage with Terra Ventus and Aqua
Thank God no Waluigi. I may never have forgiven them if he made it in. This is fine.
Honestly, ngl, Sora reminded me of Bayonetta with his Side B and Up B. Def needs to see how optimized he can get, and whether he has any dumb death combos lol
But regardless, Sora was my most wanted char by far, so hype that he got in as the Final Smash Character
I hope his weight actually accounts for everything else.
I can see the resemblance in how it looks, but how it works is nothing like bayo.
The hits, the knock back, the percentage, the usage, everything is different other than fast dashing through opponent.
Bruh you literally can’t do any combos with those moves
I guess you could say that stage is... simple and clean.
The chat is so salty, saying “another anime swordie” and “dead game” but yet they refuse to leave.
Glad to see that HBox called them out.
Call me a sadist, but I want Sora to come out, and there will be no more balance patches.
Something about Sora busting the meta (if he's able) is hilarious to me.
So you want Smash 4 essentially.
Watched this and had the same reactions I’m so weak. High jump into two recovery’s. He’s broken as mess. He said he wanted him to be easy to use….
Sora's stage is.. Simple & Clean..
Everyone shared the one collective brain cell and had immediate flashbacks to smash 4 bayo when that one combo was shown
To y’all complaining about him, he’s accurate to his game. Sora Is just as floaty and has as much air control as in the original but yes he is very weak physically
don't see anyone talking about how villager can literally become Zeus. can't wait to see art of villager floating in the air, glowing eyes, ready to smite somebody just because they put literal lightning in their fucking pockets.
20:30 no one notices how when you win it slows down just like it does in the game when you beat a boss or something
Everyone noticed
I’m a Bayo main (calm down, I never played, nor will ever play smash 4), so I’m pretty excited for Sora despite never playing Kingdom Hearts, but I’m also crossing my fingers that the Smash team learned from last time...
The funny thing is he plays like this in his games he doesn’t touch the ground 💀
I can't believe he saw a floaty Bayo with elemental attacks and didn't call it BayoNessA
I think that this character is going to prove us all wrong and end up top 20.
My heart really thought ma boi Tabuu was going to be the character when all the other ones were in their trophy form, but still Sora looks hella fun I can’t wait to play him!
As a Kirby main, I've wanted some sort of reach with a 2nd while staying floating like Kirby. So I see my answer has arrived.
Mewtwo?🤔
32:00
Sora has a high double jump, but I think it's important to mention the fact that during his animations, his feet are extended pretty far in both directions. Making his hurtbox massive in the air.
Most characters have their body parts close to them when they are in the air, but this might be as big of a weakness as him being a lightweight or a floaty
I don’t think it matters much
Who needs the floor when you got specials like these?
The year is 20SS. Every game of Smash ultimate is currently high level Sora Mains with aerial sonic blade combos.
I'll be honest, I was disappointed at first to learn that the last DLC was Sora as there is no nostalgia with me because I never played kingdom hearts. However, seeing his moveset, and (my favourite) areal playstyle, I can't wait for him to come out! Nice job, Nintendo!
You also need to understand how incredibly important and impossible it is for Sora to even be in this game. The perfect character to end the dlc.
Bruh you should play them, the series is so awesome
50:25 lol Sora's using his mic stand as a sword.
This happened every single dlc. We thought they were broken before their release, but then turned out to be very average after release.
Yeah and I'm a bit scared about Sora's kill power, he looks like he's going to struggle killing a character.
Except for Joker, who everyone thought was okay on release but ended up top-tier with some time.
@@y0n_8 until he gets you offstage.
But MinMin is Japan's most hated character, Joker exists at all, and Mythra been recently taking souls
You're hit a feet off stage and then you're suddenly in the blast zone.
Sora is probably the first DLC that is actually balanced. Lightweight with an incredible kit that's really meant for aerial combat, but can be killed rather easily. Sure, he has the Bayo ladder, but it's not that broken 🤣
Banjo is also balanced
@@charKT-7461 side-b. That is all
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex Yeah and Ganon has a top 3 nair
“He looks not very powerful”
[does Bayo combos]
REAL SHIT