This guy is extremely enjoyable when he’s not making Matt uncomfortable by cussing every 5 seconds lol Also taking a shot at Reusse drives him up my list as well.
@@CameronSlaysTBE oh I love the cussing. I prefer it. It’s just that it clearly made Matt so uncomfortable. Kind of takes away from the enjoyment ya know?
Did Drew say trade 4 1st for Maye? If so very interesting. That would mean we have to basically build out rest of team with 2nd/3rd tier FA and day 3 draft picks. To date only draft pick Kwesi had made that any other team would want is one 1st rounder. 2nd/3rd tier because we have too many holes to fill and can’t afford 1st tier. Can’t say I can get behind this strategy.
Considering the data from Pro Football Reference, I would caution against trading up to picks 2-5 for any of these QB's. Since 2000, the first pick in the draft busts at a 40% rate. Picks 2 through 5 bust at a 75% percent rate. Picks 6 through 20 bust at a 50% rate. The data suggests a pattern of over drafting QB prospects at picks 2-5. Put another way, QB needy teams reach for QB prospects in the pick 2 to 5 range. I am not sure about trading the farm to move up to picks 2-5 to have an increased bust potential. The other data that is concerning is that the first QB drafted is successful around 60% of the time. The Second QB drafted drops to around a 40% success rate. The third QB drafted is only successful 20-25% of the time. The fourth QB drafted drops to around a 15-20% success rate. So, do you trade away two or possibly three drafts worth of top 100 picks for the 3rd or 4th QB in the draft with a 15 to 25% success rate and a bust potential of 75%? Another option is trading up to 6-10 in the draft where the bust potential is only 50% and selecting a QB there. The best option is to stick and pick, particularly if the 3rd QB is available. Bust potential is only 50% and the success rate is 20-25% depending on which data set your looking at.
Going off of Drew’s comment about the thought of being laughed at for trading the farm for McCarthy, there’s an idea in NFL games that you should do the thing that the opposing team doesn’t want you to do (go for it, punt, etc). The same thing can apply to the draft. If a consensus of fans of all 31 other teams are going to laugh at you for doing something they think is dumb, they’re probably not wrong and you probably shouldn’t do that move. Drew is right to feel self conscious. 36:06
I'm more of the mind that the Vikings do have a deal, at least in principle, in place. I got that vibe from Kwesi's presser and from Mark Wilf at the owners meeting, I suspect that it was put together before the deal they made with Houston. All speculation on my pary. Nothing more than a hunch, and if Thursday night we hear the Vikings are frantically trying to move up when the Pats and/or Cards are on the clock it wouldn't shock me.
JJ McCarthy top reason to be drafted by the Vikings. “JJ is a limited QB but, Vikings Coach, WRs, & Offensive System is great for QBs.” Is a reason to like the Vikings offense. It is most assuredly not a reason to draft JJ McCarthy because it might help JJ cover some of his short comings. If top guys go JJ or Pennix are Ok if that is who is left. You don’t trade up for that.
One insane scenario that I’d love is Vikes trading 11 & 23 for 4th pick. Then shock the world and draft Harrison Jr. Or they trade up to 5 and take Nabors. Darnold recognizes his 3rd overall potential. Jefferson , Harrison Jr/Nabors, Hockenson, & Addison. The only QB I’d trade the farm for is Maye. I’d rather use that draft capital to get 1/2 elite receivers (Harrison Jr or Nabors).
I couldn't agree more. Maye has way too much talent to be a Viking, we all know our franchise thrives on mediocrity so JJ or Nix are the perfect fits 🤌 #StayMediocreMN
This is going to be a disaster for the franchise. Maye is going to be a bust and I mean an epic bust. Sure appears like we’re pushing all our chips into the middle of the table. I wouldn’t move up. I would take the best quarterback available at 11. Those usually work out the best anyway. I actually think Sam Darnold’s going to have a big year. I think KOC can get him on the right Somebody who is going to see track. He may be the best anyway. Then boy will we have trouble?
This idea, which seems to be showing up too often on Vikings channels, is that if Drake Maye is drafted by the Vikings he's going to be terrific and he's going to be awful if selected by the Pats is foolish, and it's said with such certainty. If a player is good/great, he's going to produce. It may be a little harder or take a bit longer in certain places, but there is no "magic elixir" team for QB's. KOC is not Bill Walsh and while his team underachieved, Herbert was a top 7-8 QB in the league with Brandon Staley as his HC. Some of these takes are delusional.
This was thoroughly enjoyable! Great reflections on being a Vikings fan.
I love your shows with drew youve absolutely gotta have a reaction with him in the week after the draft and continue through the next year
This guy is extremely enjoyable when he’s not making Matt uncomfortable by cussing every 5 seconds lol
Also taking a shot at Reusse drives him up my list as well.
I have no problem with the cussing, he’s a real Vikings fan, it comes from a place of pain and frustration 😂
But agreed Reusse is god awful
@@CameronSlaysTBE oh I love the cussing. I prefer it. It’s just that it clearly made Matt so uncomfortable. Kind of takes away from the enjoyment ya know?
Drew my kind of vikings fan let's fin goooo
I like this guy, I like his optimism, I like the way he knows what he wants from this team, and I agree with ALL of his takes
21:45 "My wife, my kids. They're fine, whatever."
Lmao, this dude is wild
This dude is a riot! Loved it, great show!
Another great guest. Thank you Mathew 😊
Drew's setting himself up for a major bout of depression by putting all of his chips on Maye.
Great interview... Read his book Point B in the BWCA last fall and loved it. The Hike is great too!
I love these videos and these videos.Drive me crazy saying the same thing over and over. But I can't stop listening. Lol
Did Drew say trade 4 1st for Maye? If so very interesting. That would mean we have to basically build out rest of team with 2nd/3rd tier FA and day 3 draft picks. To date only draft pick Kwesi had made that any other team would want is one 1st rounder. 2nd/3rd tier because we have too many holes to fill and can’t afford 1st tier. Can’t say I can get behind this strategy.
I would trade a lot to get up to #3 for Daniels or Maye but JJ McCarthy is growing on me too
Considering the data from Pro Football Reference, I would caution against trading up to picks 2-5 for any of these QB's. Since 2000, the first pick in the draft busts at a 40% rate. Picks 2 through 5 bust at a 75% percent rate. Picks 6 through 20 bust at a 50% rate. The data suggests a pattern of over drafting QB prospects at picks 2-5. Put another way, QB needy teams reach for QB prospects in the pick 2 to 5 range. I am not sure about trading the farm to move up to picks 2-5 to have an increased bust potential. The other data that is concerning is that the first QB drafted is successful around 60% of the time. The Second QB drafted drops to around a 40% success rate. The third QB drafted is only successful 20-25% of the time. The fourth QB drafted drops to around a 15-20% success rate. So, do you trade away two or possibly three drafts worth of top 100 picks for the 3rd or 4th QB in the draft with a 15 to 25% success rate and a bust potential of 75%? Another option is trading up to 6-10 in the draft where the bust potential is only 50% and selecting a QB there. The best option is to stick and pick, particularly if the 3rd QB is available. Bust potential is only 50% and the success rate is 20-25% depending on which data set your looking at.
Going off of Drew’s comment about the thought of being laughed at for trading the farm for McCarthy, there’s an idea in NFL games that you should do the thing that the opposing team doesn’t want you to do (go for it, punt, etc). The same thing can apply to the draft. If a consensus of fans of all 31 other teams are going to laugh at you for doing something they think is dumb, they’re probably not wrong and you probably shouldn’t do that move. Drew is right to feel self conscious. 36:06
I'm more of the mind that the Vikings do have a deal, at least in principle, in place. I got that vibe from Kwesi's presser and from Mark Wilf at the owners meeting, I suspect that it was put together before the deal they made with Houston. All speculation on my pary. Nothing more than a hunch, and if Thursday night we hear the Vikings are frantically trying to move up when the Pats and/or Cards are on the clock it wouldn't shock me.
JJ McCarthy top reason to be drafted by the Vikings. “JJ is a limited QB but, Vikings Coach, WRs, & Offensive System is great for QBs.” Is a reason to like the Vikings offense. It is most assuredly not a reason to draft JJ McCarthy because it might help JJ cover some of his short comings. If top guys go JJ or Pennix are Ok if that is who is left. You don’t trade up for that.
JJ McCarthy, is Brady + mobility. Anyone who passes on him will hate themselves forever.
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One insane scenario that I’d love is Vikes trading 11 & 23 for 4th pick. Then shock the world and draft Harrison Jr. Or they trade up to 5 and take Nabors. Darnold recognizes his 3rd overall potential. Jefferson , Harrison Jr/Nabors, Hockenson, & Addison.
The only QB I’d trade the farm for is Maye. I’d rather use that draft capital to get 1/2 elite receivers (Harrison Jr or Nabors).
Hey Matthew, I thought you agreed if Bears get Rome Odunze their situation would be better...
I like pinix to
Not Drake Maye, please.
I couldn't agree more. Maye has way too much talent to be a Viking, we all know our franchise thrives on mediocrity so JJ or Nix are the perfect fits 🤌 #StayMediocreMN
YOU ARE CORRECT !
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maye reeks of bust potential
If you want to see an exciting developmental QB, sign Michael Hiers as a late 7th or UDFA contract. Arm like freakin Marino! And he's mobile!
I would go Devin Leary out of Kentucky but same idea.
We didn't get Maye...
I can’t wait for the name drafted to the Vikings to be JJ McCarthy and watch every single one of you eat your words.
Roycee is Very Negative, When it comes to Minnesota Sports! I Think He Is A Cheese Head in Disguise!😡😡😡😡😡
JJ McCarthy. quote of the day. I think its a lie and he will go later in the first round. I been saying that for a month. Skol
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Daniels pls hopefully Washington passes on him since he was unhappy with his visit there
Give me Daniels or JJ. Maye doesn’t look like a leader.
The best maye could probably be is Jay cutler if he even gets to that
I feel the same way, but I don’t know what I’m talking about so meh
What if Brad Holmes of the Detroit Lions call, Kwes and O'Connell accept the offer instead of moving up for a quarterback?
The QB that I want is the one that KOC wants. I'm going to be happy with and support whichever QB they take
This is going to be a disaster for the franchise. Maye is going to be a bust and I mean an epic bust. Sure appears like we’re pushing all our chips into the middle of the table. I wouldn’t move up. I would take the best quarterback available at 11. Those usually work out the best anyway. I actually think Sam Darnold’s going to have a big year. I think KOC can get him on the right Somebody who is going to see track. He may be the best anyway. Then boy will we have trouble?
Maye reeks of bust and regrets
Like a successful but bad Tinder date
This idea, which seems to be showing up too often on Vikings channels, is that if Drake Maye is drafted by the Vikings he's going to be terrific and he's going to be awful if selected by the Pats is foolish, and it's said with such certainty. If a player is good/great, he's going to produce. It may be a little harder or take a bit longer in certain places, but there is no "magic elixir" team for QB's. KOC is not Bill Walsh and while his team underachieved, Herbert was a top 7-8 QB in the league with Brandon Staley as his HC. Some of these takes are delusional.
Wow...i dont have a clue who this guy is, but he is all kinds of wrong.