Just subscribed! my Z8 is showing up today, and was contemplating ordering the 180-600 for wildlife, surfing, upcoming air shows this summer. Looks to be something worth investing in with the versatility in the focal length vs a prime. Thanks for this video.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for being here. Its def an extremely versatile lens. Funny you comment on this video as I just submitted some media creds for some airshows lol. Who knows if I'll get them though.
Thanks for the initial review. Very much looking forward to getting mine! Mostly aviation and auto racing for my purposes. Excellent tip about the 'pano' of the Hornet. I probably could have saved quite a few sneak passes with that tip 😀
I just got mine today and I’m eager to take it out. Won’t get Airshow test until spring but plenty of birds and soccer until then. I’ve got 1.4tc that I’ll try with it as well. Brilliant idea about pano. Can’t believe I never thought of that. I generally delete those so will have to wait for next sneak pass to try it out. Hope I don’t forget
Good stuff. Just the video I was looking for. I too have the Z9 and am thinking of getting the 180-600. I currently have the 200-500 with FTZ adapter. I like the shorter twist throw on the new lens. Definetly "King of the Hill" there man. Keep up the good work.
The only difference would be AF speed. Stick to dynamic area on your Z6/7 and it will still be superior. Along with the cameras ibis and lens sharpness. See my latest video comparing it to the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary.
Have you ever shot any air shows with any other z camera? I have a z6 II and I struggled getting sharp focus a lot of times. I couldn't figure out the best focus mode until hallway through. The screen blackout didn't help I'm burst mode. I couldn't stay with the planes. I had you shoot with both eyes open. I saw where some people are using a red dot sight you use on guns and mounting it on the hot shoe. I want to see what will be in the z6 III first but I don't think it will have a stacked sensor. Not at that price point. The ZF is supposed to be announced on 20th of this month. We will find out then. Good video. You're probably the first person to use that lens for an air show.
Hey thanks! Yeah I've used a Canon AE1, F100, D3400, D500 and some with a Z7ii before the Z9. For your blackout lag issue, don't shoot at H+. H+ gives the fastest fps, but gives horrible EVF lag. Just shoot in H. And use Dynamic area AF. You wouldn't have the same tracking to help you as a sports camera that has great auto area (shown in this video) or a DSLRs 3D tracking. You will have to keep the dynamic area AF points on the planes. And it will work fine. Jets I'd recommend 1/2000+ for sharp images. For props to keep the blur of the prop, I'd suggest 1/300. But that takes a lot of practice. I would suggest practicing panning shots at low shutter speeds standing next to a highway or interstate. So you have a ton of subjects and the outcome doesn't matter. Just takes a lot of muscle memory. Twist at your waist and keep your elbows planted at your sides.
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective I don't think the z6 III or z7 III will have a stacked sensor so I may save up for the z8. I'm in a camera store right now. I've been looking at the one they have.
Love The Harrier (One of the last UK made Miltary wholeybuilt by UK - adopted by Spain and US Marines) . Good and fair video; if you do get a lens coat please can you update this video / separate video showing the lens coat and the actual product, e.g., where you brought it from, etc
Great video >> I only have the Z7 >> maybe the Z7III will be AF improved but for Big 5 type African Wild Life the Z7 doesnt need 20FPS. I am also considering the 400 F4.5 insteaD ?? but these images look great >> now confused
What do you mean normal VR is significantly better than photos and videos? Using normal mode VR will cause you to miss shots and make it harder to track fast moving planes. And I don't want the EVF to be jumping around when recording video. Makes stabilization a hell of a lot harder in post.
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective Have you tried it in videos, i don't think its too jumpy in videos atleast for flying birds of prey & walking mammals. I haven't been able to test it against a Cheetah running yet so can't comment on that kind of speed at close range. For photos it is jumpy, but it will atleast give 1 stop of advantage in lowlight. Might not be useful for flight shows but for wildlife its a huge advantage for 4.5,5.6 & 6.3 lens in early morning and late evening.
I dont get it. If one wants to test the sharpness with such abubdant light, why would you use such slow shutter speed for air craft while using 64 iso ? As a result you got some soft shots, getting only 30 to 40 per cent of good sharp pictures. This doesn't make justice to the lens.
This was never a test for sharpness. I only mentioned that in the same scenario, I didn't really feel the lens was that much better in a sharpness comparison. You shoot slow shutter speeds to blur props and rotors on aircraft. And that tests the ibis+VR combo. Low shutter speeds force you to use the base iso of 64. There's wayyyyy more to a lens then to see how sharp it is. A 40% Keep rate is a lot better than you would get on a Sigma 150-600 Contemporary with a FTZ adapter. Of the 4000 images, maybe 500 shots were at slow shutter speeds. The rest was 1/2000+ for the F18 / F22 / F16 / F15. Even with shots at f/8, about 200 iso and 1/2000. You couldn't do a proper sharpness comparison if you wanted due to atmospheric conditions over hot asphalt, jet exhaust, 90* hazy air. It could easily make a 400 2.8 TC lens look like butter. I was a little dissaponted there wasn't any piston Warbirds flying though.
![Nikon 180-600 Z vs Sigma 150-600 C [And Sharpness Testing]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q7AUrTrtQMg/mqdefault.jpg)
Just subscribed! my Z8 is showing up today, and was contemplating ordering the 180-600 for wildlife, surfing, upcoming air shows this summer. Looks to be something worth investing in with the versatility in the focal length vs a prime. Thanks for this video.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for being here.
Its def an extremely versatile lens.
Funny you comment on this video as I just submitted some media creds for some airshows lol. Who knows if I'll get them though.
Thanks for the initial review. Very much looking forward to getting mine! Mostly aviation and auto racing for my purposes. Excellent tip about the 'pano' of the Hornet. I probably could have saved quite a few sneak passes with that tip 😀
Yeah idk why I never thought about it 😂
Well done, Can't wait to get my copy of the lens!!
Thanks!
It was a good time. Just wish we had more vapor in the air 😂
I just got mine today and I’m eager to take it out. Won’t get Airshow test until spring but plenty of birds and soccer until then. I’ve got 1.4tc that I’ll try with it as well. Brilliant idea about pano. Can’t believe I never thought of that. I generally delete those so will have to wait for next sneak pass to try it out. Hope I don’t forget
You woulnt forget when you start getting aggravated about missing a sneak pass haha.
Nice👍, good to see some low shutter speed tests for prop blur in conjunction with the len’s VR👍
Thanks!
I hope to do low shutter shots on some jets next time. With the vapor trails.
Good stuff. Just the video I was looking for. I too have the Z9 and am thinking of getting the 180-600. I currently have the 200-500 with FTZ adapter. I like the shorter twist throw on the new lens. Definetly "King of the Hill" there man. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Its definitely worth the quality of life updates.
Im hoping to get a TC for this lens for this summer. Stay posted.
Do you think performance would still be pretty good on a Z6ii or Z7ii? I can't afford a Z9, haha
The only difference would be AF speed. Stick to dynamic area on your Z6/7 and it will still be superior. Along with the cameras ibis and lens sharpness.
See my latest video comparing it to the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary.
Thanks for your video and specially for the pro tipp with the stitching :-)
I got mine as well and I am happy :-)
Glad it was helpful!
Have you ever shot any air shows with any other z camera? I have a z6 II and I struggled getting sharp focus a lot of times. I couldn't figure out the best focus mode until hallway through. The screen blackout didn't help I'm burst mode. I couldn't stay with the planes. I had you shoot with both eyes open. I saw where some people are using a red dot sight you use on guns and mounting it on the hot shoe. I want to see what will be in the z6 III first but I don't think it will have a stacked sensor. Not at that price point. The ZF is supposed to be announced on 20th of this month. We will find out then. Good video. You're probably the first person to use that lens for an air show.
Hey thanks!
Yeah I've used a Canon AE1, F100, D3400, D500 and some with a Z7ii before the Z9.
For your blackout lag issue, don't shoot at H+. H+ gives the fastest fps, but gives horrible EVF lag. Just shoot in H. And use Dynamic area AF.
You wouldn't have the same tracking to help you as a sports camera that has great auto area (shown in this video) or a DSLRs 3D tracking.
You will have to keep the dynamic area AF points on the planes. And it will work fine.
Jets I'd recommend 1/2000+ for sharp images.
For props to keep the blur of the prop, I'd suggest 1/300. But that takes a lot of practice.
I would suggest practicing panning shots at low shutter speeds standing next to a highway or interstate. So you have a ton of subjects and the outcome doesn't matter. Just takes a lot of muscle memory. Twist at your waist and keep your elbows planted at your sides.
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective I don't think the z6 III or z7 III will have a stacked sensor so I may save up for the z8. I'm in a camera store right now. I've been looking at the one they have.
The black out and lag is definitely the main issue when I used a Z6ii at an air show
I shot the Camarillio air show. It was hot. I used my Z7 ll with the Sigma 150-600 lens. It performed great. Love the air shows..
I wish I had the time and cash to shoot more than 2-3 a year. 😏
If I didn't want to do video, I'd still have my Z7ii 😁
Love The Harrier (One of the last UK made Miltary wholeybuilt by UK - adopted by Spain and US Marines) . Good and fair video; if you do get a lens coat please can you update this video / separate video showing the lens coat and the actual product, e.g., where you brought it from, etc
I sure can.
I am currently on the fence between a lens coat or a vinyl wrap.
Never seen a pano stitch done like that👍good tip🙂
Learning things, accidentally 😂
Great video >> I only have the Z7 >> maybe the Z7III will be AF improved but for Big 5 type African Wild Life the Z7 doesnt need 20FPS. I am also considering the 400 F4.5 insteaD ?? but these images look great >> now confused
Keep watching my page, there will be a ton of content for this lens over the next few months.
Thanks for the video. I’m probably a couple of months down the list for mine.
What was the recorder you were using??
For the EVF, it is the Zcam Ipman Gemini. Theres a video on my channel about it.
You should try Normal VR. It is significantly better than Sport VR. Normal VR will be a little jumpy in photos
What do you mean normal VR is significantly better than photos and videos?
Using normal mode VR will cause you to miss shots and make it harder to track fast moving planes. And I don't want the EVF to be jumping around when recording video. Makes stabilization a hell of a lot harder in post.
I think he meant you should try SPORT VR.
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective Have you tried it in videos, i don't think its too jumpy in videos atleast for flying birds of prey & walking mammals. I haven't been able to test it against a Cheetah running yet so can't comment on that kind of speed at close range. For photos it is jumpy, but it will atleast give 1 stop of advantage in lowlight. Might not be useful for flight shows but for wildlife its a huge advantage for 4.5,5.6 & 6.3 lens in early morning and late evening.
cool video
Awesome review man! Thanks!!!!
Thanks! The full review will be a way down the road.
What editor do you use for stabilization
DaVinci Resolve.
The free version has stabilization in it as well.
Lens coat will do
It would. I'd probably prefer a vinyl skin though. I don't like holding a oven mitten material.
Nothing to ask except has anyone used a z7ii with this new lens ???
If I see any good videos on that body I'll let you know.
What is planar tracker to stabilize video? Is it DaVinci?
Yes, Planar Tracker is a tracking node used in Fusion in DaVinci Resolve.
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective Thanks man! have to try that
Welcome! I might post a quick video on it later.
I dont get it. If one wants to test the sharpness with such abubdant light, why would you use such slow shutter speed for air craft while using 64 iso ? As a result you got some soft shots, getting only 30 to 40 per cent of good sharp pictures. This doesn't make justice to the lens.
This was never a test for sharpness. I only mentioned that in the same scenario, I didn't really feel the lens was that much better in a sharpness comparison.
You shoot slow shutter speeds to blur props and rotors on aircraft. And that tests the ibis+VR combo.
Low shutter speeds force you to use the base iso of 64.
There's wayyyyy more to a lens then to see how sharp it is.
A 40% Keep rate is a lot better than you would get on a Sigma 150-600 Contemporary with a FTZ adapter.
Of the 4000 images, maybe 500 shots were at slow shutter speeds.
The rest was 1/2000+ for the F18 / F22 / F16 / F15. Even with shots at f/8, about 200 iso and 1/2000. You couldn't do a proper sharpness comparison if you wanted due to atmospheric conditions over hot asphalt, jet exhaust, 90* hazy air. It could easily make a 400 2.8 TC lens look like butter.
I was a little dissaponted there wasn't any piston Warbirds flying though.
Dude…the lens is BLACK!
The Sigma Contemporary is also black, and didn't get as hot. 😏
Materials matter more than the color..
The Nikon is more magnesium and not plastic.
I'll take the metal, thanks. This lens is dope