i made a full course on making music with bitwig, 6 hours of lessons & practical examples: www.udemy.com/course/bitwig-studio-ambient/?referralCode=438DCF1A5986793E21AD
Never forget the #1 Reason: Stability Ableton 11 in one of its later iterations was an absolute abomination of crashes and lags, which ultimately led me to switch to Bitwig. Bitwig on the other hand is basically the software equivalent of "Built like a tank". One of your vst's crashes? No Problemo, just remove it or try reloading it, the Daw is chillin. Wanna open multiple projects at once? And then maybe copy audio clips or devices from one to another? Well there you go sir, of course you can do that! Besides that, the overall Performance of Bitwig is just objectively better than Ableton. By that I mean the loading time of projects and devices, as well as the overall Dsp "headroom" (You can load more stuff). Plus: Did you know you can open Ableton Projects in Bitwig? I had an Ableton Project that was so corrupted I couldn't open it anymore, so when I got Bitwig I just tried opening it there. Suffice to say it worked. This Daw would survive World War 3, and in case of a nuclear strike, my advice is to boot up Bitwig and take shelter behind you Pc.
Haha yeah its a big plus, true. When i was switching to bitwig i used it to finish an album i had started writing in ableton, importing ableton projects made the transition much easier
How’s the workflow feel? To me bitwig looks kinda bloated which scares me. I hate looking at a super small timeline where you need to scroll a ton. I like the wide simple layout if ableton
@@Submersed24 honestly bitwig feels a lot more to the point and easier to use than ableton. Especially the synth uis are far more simple and elegant. Ableton feels a lot more janky and bloated to me, especially once m4l gets involved. But is recommend just demoing it and seeing for yourself, its all just down to personal taste, other people wont be able to tell you whats better for you. I did not want to return to ableton after trying bitwig ever again, but i know others that feel differently.
@@TildeSounds it’s suprising how few big producers use it and stick with ableton currently. I was waiting until the big names start coming because that would probably mean it has caught up to the other daws/surpassed it. But yeah I suppose I should just use it and try. Ableton actually looks simpler to me tbh. Bitwig seems cluttered with the timeline being so small. I love how you can cycle through sounds quick in ableton
@@Submersed24 Nik roos of noisia/sleepnet uses it, if that means anything to you. Given how deep his technical skill is thats all the confirmation i need. Skope uses it for sound design. I think its just a matter of bitwig being quite new, like 10 years younger than ableton. Big producers have generally been producing for very long already. But yeah i also feel bitwig is still a bit lacking in educational content on yourube. Dont know what you mean by small timeline tbh, you can make it as big as you like
haha almost, i made this video when compressor+ was alread announced. the glue mode does sound great , the only thing it can't offer is the elegant simplicity of glue compressor
I agree. Bitwig has even a.better Ableton Link and a slight tighter MIDI timing which is noticeable on drum machines. And to mention the browser. Ableton 12 has gotten a bit better, but Bitwigs browser is a lot cleaner and faster.
@@TildeSounds Don't get me wrong, I'm a Bitwig user, haha. I made this analogy with the best of intentions. Sternenherz addressed some of what I consider to be the issues in his "5 Reasons why I would love to switch to Bitwig 5, but CAN’T" video. One thing that isn't in the video but REALLY bugs me out is plugin scanning. Bitwig takes a lot of time to scan and index plugins, and you simply can't manually rescan plugins. It's a recurring issue among people with a lot of plugins, and unfortunately, I'm one of them.
I tried bitwig 6 weeks ago and i havent opened to use Abelton or Cubase since...there iwas some M4L devices i thought id miss but that wasnt a concern very quickly when you start to comprehend the power you have in this software..so good. you want something you just make it and workflow starts to become far more creative and simple.
Interesting thoughts. In re glue: I like Analog Obsession COMPER. It's got everything you need (except gain matching) and more, but the interface is clean enough that you can work very quickly with it. I use it on almost every track as a bus compressor to add glue and sidechain against the kick. (I group all channels except kick, and comper is on the group track.)
great content, new subscriber, unsolicited advice: try to reach higher and lower pitches with your speaking voice. It would help create more of a sense of excitement. It might feel unnatural at first, but your video format relies heavily on voice, and I think you might work on the "sound design" of it. IDK, maybe try applying OTT and maybe that will help? 😅
@@GeorgeLocke haha nice way of putting it. in my recent video i use my voice to demo the vocoder fx on a lot, kind of adds some interest. maybe i should just always talk into a vocoder lol
@@TildeSounds ahah gotcha 🔥 there must be some context I'm missing here but oh well! can't wait to try Bitwig since Ableton runs like shit in 4k on PC btw
@@iamsyntact bw is quite nice performance and stability wise, it also got gpu accelleration recently, which might be cool for 4k. always worth a shot to try the demo and try to push it to its limits hahaha
It's like choosing between a Fork or Spoon sometimes since they're both great but custom U.I. shortcuts in Bitwig are a huge workflow booster & one works on Linux while the other still won't without Wine.
@@TildeSounds Ha Ha Yea! The closet thing I could think of to that would be using Applied Acoustics VSTs within Bitwig since many of Ableton's plugins are based on them or routing midi between both DAWS, similar to what the Reason Studios VST does, through a program like helvum.
@@TildeSounds The way Ableton does it is using a warp mode. Just use Elastique or Stretch Pro. You can re pitch it there and not change the tempo if that's what you're trying to do. or maybe slice your loop on onsets and adjust the pitch then.
@@potsandjacks i probably didnt explain this very well in the video since youre not the only one confused about what i mean. Compare how in abletons repitch mode you can still adjust the semitone knob, while in bitwig the analogous control is greyed out in repitch mode. Thats what im talking about. Tuning your samples that way is the cleanest way to do it and bitwig doesnt really let you do this as easily. Yes, there are workarounds, but theyre all quite annoying.
haha yeah it ain't an easy choice, i was very pleasantly surprised by live 12 and all the improvements it brings. there are some great max devices for sure, like that clip gain thing or auto track colours
i made a full course on making music with bitwig, 6 hours of lessons & practical examples:
www.udemy.com/course/bitwig-studio-ambient/?referralCode=438DCF1A5986793E21AD
Never forget the #1 Reason: Stability
Ableton 11 in one of its later iterations was an absolute abomination of crashes and lags, which ultimately led me to switch to Bitwig.
Bitwig on the other hand is basically the software equivalent of "Built like a tank".
One of your vst's crashes? No Problemo, just remove it or try reloading it, the Daw is chillin.
Wanna open multiple projects at once? And then maybe copy audio clips or devices from one to another? Well there you go sir, of course you can do that!
Besides that, the overall Performance of Bitwig is just objectively better than Ableton.
By that I mean the loading time of projects and devices, as well as the overall Dsp "headroom" (You can load more stuff).
Plus:
Did you know you can open Ableton Projects in Bitwig?
I had an Ableton Project that was so corrupted I couldn't open it anymore, so when I got Bitwig I just tried opening it there.
Suffice to say it worked.
This Daw would survive World War 3, and in case of a nuclear strike, my advice is to boot up Bitwig and take shelter behind you Pc.
Haha yeah its a big plus, true. When i was switching to bitwig i used it to finish an album i had started writing in ableton, importing ableton projects made the transition much easier
How’s the workflow feel? To me bitwig looks kinda bloated which scares me. I hate looking at a super small timeline where you need to scroll a ton. I like the wide simple layout if ableton
@@Submersed24 honestly bitwig feels a lot more to the point and easier to use than ableton. Especially the synth uis are far more simple and elegant. Ableton feels a lot more janky and bloated to me, especially once m4l gets involved. But is recommend just demoing it and seeing for yourself, its all just down to personal taste, other people wont be able to tell you whats better for you. I did not want to return to ableton after trying bitwig ever again, but i know others that feel differently.
@@TildeSounds it’s suprising how few big producers use it and stick with ableton currently. I was waiting until the big names start coming because that would probably mean it has caught up to the other daws/surpassed it. But yeah I suppose I should just use it and try. Ableton actually looks simpler to me tbh. Bitwig seems cluttered with the timeline being so small. I love how you can cycle through sounds quick in ableton
@@Submersed24 Nik roos of noisia/sleepnet uses it, if that means anything to you. Given how deep his technical skill is thats all the confirmation i need. Skope uses it for sound design.
I think its just a matter of bitwig being quite new, like 10 years younger than ableton. Big producers have generally been producing for very long already. But yeah i also feel bitwig is still a bit lacking in educational content on yourube.
Dont know what you mean by small timeline tbh, you can make it as big as you like
Totally valid and fair points. I hate re-pitched audio so no point to hurry when we have excellent design system inside DAW. Thanks for comparation.
Good news everyone! Glue compressor is now in Bitwig. One less thing to miss.
haha almost, i made this video when compressor+ was alread announced. the glue mode does sound great , the only thing it can't offer is the elegant simplicity of glue compressor
Really nice overview ! Thanks!
I agree. Bitwig has even a.better Ableton Link and a slight tighter MIDI timing which is noticeable on drum machines. And to mention the browser. Ableton 12 has gotten a bit better, but Bitwigs browser is a lot cleaner and faster.
i like the bitwig plugin browser a lot, the sample browser i'm still getting used to
Bitwig is like a giant robot capable of destroying the world and travel through dimensions but is unable to microwave a hot pocket.
tbh i've found it a lot more useful at microwaving than ableton. What's the metaphorical hot pocket you're struggling to get warm?
@@TildeSounds Don't get me wrong, I'm a Bitwig user, haha. I made this analogy with the best of intentions. Sternenherz addressed some of what I consider to be the issues in his "5 Reasons why I would love to switch to Bitwig 5, but CAN’T" video. One thing that isn't in the video but REALLY bugs me out is plugin scanning. Bitwig takes a lot of time to scan and index plugins, and you simply can't manually rescan plugins. It's a recurring issue among people with a lot of plugins, and unfortunately, I'm one of them.
@@croay haha i see, i dont run into that but i see a lot of people struggle with it
@croay then he switched after that video anyway lol.. I'd take whatever that guy says with a grain of salt.
@@teezdalien im not a big fan of that video haha, some suggestions of his are valid, others are uh, not very thought out
Great video, thanks!
Thank you!
I tried bitwig 6 weeks ago and i havent opened to use Abelton or Cubase since...there iwas some M4L devices i thought id miss but that wasnt a concern very quickly when you start to comprehend the power you have in this software..so good. you want something you just make it and workflow starts to become far more creative and simple.
yeah i still mix a few more niche m4l devices that aren't possible in the grid, like corperous concativus, but that's it really
Interesting thoughts. In re glue: I like Analog Obsession COMPER. It's got everything you need (except gain matching) and more, but the interface is clean enough that you can work very quickly with it. I use it on almost every track as a bus compressor to add glue and sidechain against the kick. (I group all channels except kick, and comper is on the group track.)
great content, new subscriber, unsolicited advice: try to reach higher and lower pitches with your speaking voice. It would help create more of a sense of excitement. It might feel unnatural at first, but your video format relies heavily on voice, and I think you might work on the "sound design" of it. IDK, maybe try applying OTT and maybe that will help? 😅
yeah i used comper for a bit, analog obsession is great
@@GeorgeLocke haha nice way of putting it. in my recent video i use my voice to demo the vocoder fx on a lot, kind of adds some interest. maybe i should just always talk into a vocoder lol
did I meet you on Twitter last week?
great video btw
@@iamsyntact ty! don’t think so, i don’t use twitter much.
@@TildeSounds my bad, it was actually someone with "DAW WARS CHAMPION" in his username. no idea what the relation is lol
@@iamsyntact lol i see, nah i just put it bc i thought it'd be funny to compare bitwig vs ableton to a cosmic struggle of good vs evil
@@TildeSounds ahah gotcha 🔥 there must be some context I'm missing here but oh well!
can't wait to try Bitwig since Ableton runs like shit in 4k on PC btw
@@iamsyntact bw is quite nice performance and stability wise, it also got gpu accelleration recently, which might be cool for 4k. always worth a shot to try the demo and try to push it to its limits hahaha
It's like choosing between a Fork or Spoon sometimes since they're both great but custom U.I. shortcuts in Bitwig are a huge workflow booster & one works on Linux while the other still won't without Wine.
So what you're saying is, what we need is a Spork?
@@TildeSounds Ha Ha Yea! The closet thing I could think of to that would be using Applied Acoustics VSTs within Bitwig since many of Ableton's plugins are based on them or routing midi between both DAWS, similar to what the Reason Studios VST does, through a program like helvum.
@@nevinplove5097 my hope is on ableton adopting .dawproject. as is you can import ableton to bitwig, but not the reverse
you can buy the glue compressor ar cytomic - it's the same as in ableton - if you miss it
yeah i've been considering it. only downside is it isn't as nicely integrated into the ui
Bitwig is better, because you are in bitwig.
Simple terms. Bitwig lets you make music so quicker. Thus it provides you opportunity and time to work more on the music side.
You think so?
Adjust the pitch by changing the bpm of the track
yeah, exactly my point lol
@@TildeSounds Thats Standard though
@@potsandjacks ableton does it differently and its a whole lot nicer
@@TildeSounds The way Ableton does it is using a warp mode. Just use Elastique or Stretch Pro. You can re pitch it there and not change the tempo if that's what you're trying to do. or maybe slice your loop on onsets and adjust the pitch then.
@@potsandjacks i probably didnt explain this very well in the video since youre not the only one confused about what i mean.
Compare how in abletons repitch mode you can still adjust the semitone knob, while in bitwig the analogous control is greyed out in repitch mode. Thats what im talking about. Tuning your samples that way is the cleanest way to do it and bitwig doesnt really let you do this as easily. Yes, there are workarounds, but theyre all quite annoying.
Check out Objeq Delay from AAS.
Thanks for the hint, iimma have a look
I use ableton and this video is fire. I love so much about both decisions decisions gah
Fr tho max gives me a headache but I also am eternally grateful for the workflow hacks made with it lol
haha yeah it ain't an easy choice, i was very pleasantly surprised by live 12 and all the improvements it brings. there are some great max devices for sure, like that clip gain thing or auto track colours
discord:
discord.gg/PyaHAxPD
Reaper is better
audacity
@@TildeSounds hehhehehe
Reaper is the DAW for poor people who fart allot.
@@RYANLEWIS-pd7zs I was being sacastic you in the other hand being rude and offensive...and yes I do own >Bitwig an no I am not poor and fart less
Im arranging in ffmpeg!! ;)