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I trained in the UK and tried this kind of equipment while doing a seniors course. As a Brazilian, I was not used to operating with many pouches facing backwards, once we normally operate light due to the tropical climate and our gear is generally distributed to the front. However, such load bearing allows you to carry a lot of magazines, canteens, and more, and you can crawl without worrying about how locked your front pouches are in order to avoid losing stuff. Ps. I almost bought it for 160 pounds, but naahh...
First rate and detailed review. I too am a big fan of LBE especially old ALICE. This looks like a well put together LBE. For the people who cry about velcro. No one is going to hear your velcro in a gunfight. Thank you for your time and sharing this LBE.
Pretty much an updated/streamlined PLCE/LBE. The one piece solid waist padding is probably the single biggest improvement and should be standard on all LOAD carrying equipment (duh). The QD buckle is also awesome, the plastic ones has never been confidence inspiring, even if they are pretty robust overall. If it wasn't 7x the price of what I once paid for a mint PLCE (with all the bags) I'd very seriously consider it.
I couldn’t agree more with your evaluation of the bad habits GWOT gave us. There are many times you need LBE but not armor. Crossing a canal or river. And many times you need armor but not gear. Working party.
I bought the Tiger Stripe Rig in February 24. Very pleased with the Crossfire Rig. Quality great, if you get XL version the middle rear utility pouch is a larger design than on L version. Only drawback so far is that the mag pouches just barly take an AK mag. Helikon and others have been selling multiuse AR/AK pouches for years, would only take a little more material. Thanks Brent for 10% off code, helps family men in these times.
You're able to barely fit 1, 2, or 3 AK mags in the pouches built for 3 5.56 mags? I run an AK 7.62 and a Galil Ace gen 2 in.308. I'm interested in using this rig for those calibers. The padding sounds great for the weight. Ha ha ha P.s. what are the chances of getting a drum into the larger GP pouches?
do you run a ruck with it, the site says its supposed to work well with rucks compared to other lbes but they only really say they work with other crossfire packs, do you have any experience with non crossfire rucks?
Good overview brother!! I agree about adding more real estate panels on the front, I get why they did it that way but it means you have to put more sustainment in your Pack/ Ruck or other Line Gear. While the Mag/ side Pouches are removable, the rear Sustainment Pouch isn't, which means it would have to be run empty for certain kinds of Rucks (Jager/ Bergan style) that are longer and rest at the small of the back where that Pouch is located, and would have to be loaded after movement and setting up a PB or OP/LP or whatever in the operational process. I'd like to see that pouch optional and able to be removed/ added as needed.
Ive been using Jayjay's webbing for 2yrs and didnt think it could get better, but this looks even better, simpler to adjust, and the larger rear pouch definitely beats the 2 canteen-size pouches in the rear of my current kit
Im inclined to agree with you. I have the jayjays commanders webbing and i really want a buttpack but seeing as how id need a small day pack for snivel and wet weather gear anyway, its close enough in efficacy that i wont change it up. Theyre super similar
Nice thing about the patrol order is that you can easily add a micro rig to get more gear and still be low to the ground. Issue with that, though, then becomes all the strapping. Belt kit, micro rig, pack, and maybe body armor is a lot. If you're looking for a good belt kit Ive used the SORD patrol order for years and its great.
I good to see more LBEs popping up. I run the nixie and the jungle rig and love them both but both do similar jobs but for different POU the nixie LFR is great for a minute man, grab that your rifle and maybe your helmet. The jungle rig is more in line with this DZ for the war fighter where you need a ruck for what you need for the mission, and you are your own resupply. I'm curious if the velocity systems jungle rig harness would work on the DZ belt. I personally like to wear my straps under my armor so I can ditch my armor if needed because water + heavy + needing to breathe = not a good time but that's my AO lots of rivers and if I loose anything I don't want to lose what I need to fight dudes had been getting down stacking bodies without armor for a long time but if I can have both that's always welcomed.
I like the setup of your old harness but i like the comfort and ability to get low on this new harness. Im a big fan of your videos Marine thank you. Im glad youre on our side
This is a great review and im definitely considering getting it. Ive been scavending and improvising a similar LBE setup using surplus ALICE gear and various pouches according to needs. This one looks very comfortable, capable and modern.
Solid vest and good review Not sure why they didnt put molle on the front of the shoulder straps. The Russians have been running their LBE for two decades and the suspenders are their favourite place to mount small med pouches (TQ & combat gauze) or grenade pouches used as small GP pouches for compass, headlamp, notepad. Can always mount pouches using some 550 on this, but still. Also the Cobra is a patented design by AustriAlpin, an Austrian mountain climbing firm that's become the gold standard for climbing harnesses.
I agree, the Smerch has been around and in active combat so much, its been perfected quite well. And the molle (especially if laser cut) costs barely anything for a ton of added functionality. Not just med pouches, but also for things like cable/hydration routing
@@tHaH4x0r True. Just having straps you can loop things through vertically adds a lot of functionality. Not sure what to do with the ones on the DZ Rig.
This kit looks like it's meant and designed to be used in conjunction with slick or minimalist PCs which are extremely commonplace now. I think that's the reason anything on the front end was left very much naked. It's ironic how slick/min carriers are at their peak right now but if you look to RUclips and active military trends LBE/big loadout rigs are making a huge comeback due to the change in warfare the last 3 years with Ukraine and Israel. We're hitting an apex where both are going to overlap and this is a really good solution to throw under/over a simple PC that just has plates and maybe a triple mag front placard, which is exactly why I'm interested in it. It's an almost perfected LBE made to go with new age carriers, essentially.
I have headtorches, one on my left webbing strap and one on the right bergen strap, Pulled the headstraps off and laced the plce strap in to secure them. Perfectly angled down for map use/faffing and I have green tape over the lens to dim.
I really like that kit. I was recon with the Airborne in Vicenza late 80s early 90s. Traveling fast and light LBE is the way to go. The butt pack was key along with a good Vietnam era H-harness. With LBE and a large ruck we could last over a week in the field. Excellent review.
Looks like a great rig. Definitely interested in it, myself. I have an Eagle Industries H Harness that basically does the same job, but this looks less bulky
I hear you on wanting more pouches in the front however id still prefer this clean front setup so there is no impediments to kneeling/ crawling, and my thighs wont knock the rig around while running like some other setups ive used. A small assault pack like the savotta jaakari small is an excellent pairing.
I have a chest rig mini, which when it is not on the front i carry on my back in light order, or on my Bergen or daysack which gives me options. I like to get very low to the ground when necessary. I used to have my knife, altimeter pouch and compass pouch at the front but they caused problems so moved them onto my ammo pouches side straps. Those packs from Varustelekka are very good
Crossfire gear is the best Ive seen so far, the webbing waist protection is something that they have really nailed well, webbing protection was the holy grail of comfort when using the issued webbing and we always had to source after market belt padding (doubled up and taped together). I used to let my pack rest on my webbing rear ammo pouches without the shoulder straps of the webbing. This meant the pack weight was entirely on my hips. Loosening the pack shoulder straps and there’s no weight on the shoulders, you can carry full battle order and walk further.
Thanks so much for review of this equipment due I like load bearing rig instead of vest type set up it current troops run usually. It looks to be way more comfortable than current equipment. Thanks great video Brennt! Keep videos coming!
What's old is new again... I'm glad we're moving back to LCE's. Albeit updated. There were many times overseas that I wish I could have just used ALICE stuff. Of course, command was all about "but muh uniformity"...
I made a similar setup out of a surplus coyote tan USMC M203 belt/bandoleer. I love the thing. Nothing towards the center of your waist/body and it’s great.
The buckles on the mag and utility pouches on PLCE are for stabilising/integrating the rocket pack (daysack made from Bergen side pockets). Not sure how much this was used but probably not ideal for a bigger bag.
I reviewed the online info and compared it with the Jay-Jays belt kit. I liked the Jay-Jays spacer mesh and 4 pouches better than the Crossfire, but Jay-Jays didn't have any MTP pattern in stock. I ran ALICE and early assault vests in the 90s, the FLC, the TAP, micro-rigs and direct attached pouches on my plate carrier through the years, it will be interesting to see if British-style belt kit is a better solution. I appreciate your review, it was helpful in deciding to pull the trigger - here's hoping it is worth the cost!
Good video, it looks to me that you are wearing it a tad high. Especially the back. “Airborne webbing” rides lower than say Alice. Also the webbing is worn under a PC. The other reason for being clear across the front is for Tabbing / Rucking. If you are wearing it lower any pouch forward will rub your thighs while tabbing. It’s interesting that they designed it to run mags that way. Opposite to normal. Can’t wait to see a set in person.
Great video! BZ! Another good argument for LBE is that you can wear the plate carrier, then your insulating layer/protective layers, and then the LBE on top. No need to squeeze the insulating layer/protective layers under the plate carrier. The plate carrier itself will trap warm, dry air as a pseudo insulating layer. The protective layer will keep the plate carrier dry, thus reducing weight.
Similar to how I kitted out as a Gunner 2 pouches one with an extra belt one with cleaning kit, Bar type Secateurs etc 4 water bottles 2 cups canteen one for cooking & brews the other for shaving etc. Plus Back pack. You could always rest with the Belt unclipped but still over your shoulders. Almost forgot the compulsory 10 ft of coiled rope and occasional Machettee if not on my pack.
I always liked the LBE for it's versatility. The ability to layer protective gear, clothing, or armor according to environmentals. The ability to ruck with it. Not to mention only having 3 items to keep track of. 1 LBE, 2 armor, 3 pack. No arguments. Everything now is about modularity and maybe that is better in todays high tech battlespace. But it doesn't do as well carrying a standardized 'general infantryman' loadout where the whole system has been designed to work together. That huge rectangular triple pouch of the old finnish m85 swallowed a ton of stuff, and it provided a flat shelf for the rucksack to rest on top of and transferred the weight to your hips on long patrols.
Good review! Those permanently affixed female fastex buckles on the belt and sewn back pouches are a deal breaker for me. Kind of a throw back to the British 1908 pattern webbing where the large pack and small pack were affixed to the web belt. This kind of thing was done away with in the 1937 and subsequent web patterns, but Crossfire has brought it back after 100 years! I will stick with my ALICE style setup with a proper buttpack.
Permanently fixed pouches are more rigid and/or lighter than any detachable method. Also slightly less prone to bulking up. If you don't need to be changing shit around, giving away some modularity can have its upsides too.
Great kit and the style I prefer! I understand this is 'new' and the price reflects that!. If I didn't already have invested in so much mil-surp of the same style (ALICE, Eagle, etc.) I'd get the DZ Rig. Looks well made and in several color flavors. If/when I have to don plates (I don't often) - I like to go minimalist and slick and wear the 'kit' over the armor. I'm an 'open front' kind a guy so the DZ Rig instantly caught my attention. Good review!
The right side ammo pouches could be used for 4 STANAG as re supply or put a MOLLE equipped larger pouch and fit the mags. In the UK we have a "commander" size pouch or a SAW pouch that could do that job, as you mentioned the MOLLE compatibility. I also have a rolled up "dump pouch" on my left side just to the rear of my ammo pouches for empty mags. Have always used a similar rig in the UK forces, this one reminds me of PLCE with a single 1958 sized kidney pouch at the rear which was a mod many of my colleagues used, by splitting a pair of Kidney pouches. We also used a similar set up by combining two Bergen side pouches zipped together as a backpack or the daysack. For a time many of us fitted our combat knife(not issued but personal choice) to the left shoulder strap "Vietnam " style but higher authority stopped it for some reason. The ladder straps on your yoke seem ideally suited for that. We also carry a length of webbing strap with two karabiners attached 8 metres long called a Jungle Loop Line (or in arctic a white version Arctic Loop Line) for use as a safety line for river crossings etc. PLCE style or LBE is always more versatile. Currently using similar to PLCE with personal purchase items to upgrade. I agree with most of what you said it makes good tactical sense. God speed and a salute from the UK
That's exactly what I am looking for. Only issue is that in 2024 I will buy hunting equipment, optic and rifle so I don't have money to spare for it, but I am definitely keeping it in mind for the future.
Definently looks like a really good LBE system Brent! I agree with your comment regarding not attaching it to the ruck. Too bad that the center pouch wasn't larger, like a butt pack. If not wearing a large pack, adding a CamelBak hydration bladder/pack is a good idea. I dont like having all rifle mags on one side, the balance will be off.
Those 2L aussie canteens fit well in the mk7 but less so in the belt kit. Definitely on the list now for this belt kit. Wish they still sold the DG-1. Great video.
Hi Oliver, we will be releasing an updated version of the DG1 this year and are currently in the final stages of design. Thanks for the support in our company and hoping you are liking the Mk7. We designed the hydration for 1L or 1qt canteens or nalgene style bottles with nesting, as 1L is standard for all western militaries these days. If more hydration is needed that's where the daypack or ruck come in with modern approaches like hydration bladders internally stored with hydration tubes. Cheers
Subject… the open front on the belt. I was in the 82d Airborne infantry. My LBE evolved over time a lot. One of those evolutions was moving everything back on the belt, here’s why. Yes, laying on the ground on my belly was more comfortable and necessary, the balance of the rig was way better, and attaching the front suspender strap back onto the point of where my side belt loops are on the LBE is another hot tip. Also, loosing the LBE straps to let the load ride down on the hips, not high on the waste. The load should ride on the hips not the high waste. Find that point of comfort that works for you. Last, when the load is buckled up while walking, those mag pouch’s won’t dig into the front of your thighs on every step. Freedom of movement is so much better with no equipment in the way. Also, I would suggest balancing your load much better by putting mags on both sides, no just one side.
Looks interesting, may pick one up. Currently running an eagle H harness. On the note of losing the real estate up front, I would supplement that with a small chest rig in conjunction with the belt kit like some MAC V SOG guys did with chicom rigs. I tried that myself last 1S semester and liked it a lot.
I am a fan of the older Alice Equipment. H harness style. I was issued the Y harness. But went into O'side and bought a H harness. And probably a couple of Carne Asada burritos from Colimas. I hated the FLCS cause it's a molle road guard vest that twists and you had to untangle. My cousin bought me a TAPS for Xmas that I'll be modding out. Been watching videos on that. So that's my next project. I have two Army Ranger cousins and a Marine Recon nephew. In good company. And that's where I have landed in general. How Marine Recon and Force guys run their stuff. Cause I believe that's the model for a supposed New Age Minute Man. Live and die with what you brought. It's about to get heavy Sgt Major.💪🏻🇺🇸
Pull tab style is called ' tuck tabs' and we're likely to see more of it on new generation gear as it eliminates the plastic 'Fastex' buckles. Some say they're 'faster' than the buckles for what that's worth (reloading behind cover). I haven't seen the tuck tab system without Velcro yet but I'm sure we will. At that point I may have to 'upgrade' my own kit pouches although I don't get the 'noise' factor of Velcro anyway. Why are you pullin' mags in the first place? Yeah - that's right.
In the Australian army load bearing belt rigs were always issued along with plate carriers. Im torn between chest rigs and lbe, even in the Malaysian jungles i wore a light jungle chest rig over the belt simply because i hated the bounce when running or it getting caught on thick scrub if i was trying to push through it. If i needed more weight id take the small bulloch pack same as what you have on in this video. I do rly like the way they made the belt super wide unlike companies like velocity where they use thin ones. We'd zip tie two belts together to make one wide belt so you didnt get chaffing from pouches. I havent used belt kit in over 10 years so maybe i should give it a go again.
Looks pretty good. Of course, you can mod an ALICE/LBV to make it close to this product--for example, the british 4-point yoke, a cut up sleeping mat or surplus hip pad, any belt buckle you want, etc. But this looks more comfortable and much more secure than putting molle pouches on an alice belt. Plus, good 'ol M81 and tiger stripe as pattern options. It looks like the daisy chain on the back of the harness could serve the same function as the d-rings that tie into the buttpack to support it from the yoke instead of just resting on the beltline. Thanks for the first look, I'm eager to hear your impression after running it through the Grunt Grinder 🤙
The one thing I wish they would leave out of updated designs is velcro. At night everything seems 1000% louder and I hate the thought of ripping open a pouch. I was in the army in early 90’s when we wore the LBE/LCE’s that had the plastic clip buckles and metal snaps which could be opened quietly.
It looks like the British PLCE from the 90s. Very good design in my opinion because it's so much stable when you tighten up everything especially wearing body armor. I really love the ALICE LBE but the PLCE harness makes it much stable. Another observation is chest rigs are good for urban combat but this PLCE and ALICE system is best for sustainment for combat that you can carry more ammo and spare ammo, food, and water, wearing a light assault pack for a 24 or 48 hour fight in any terrain. I have gone back to the ALICE LBE with 2 spare canteens, butt pack, 4 ammo pouches, H-Harness, Chicom 3 cell chest rig, with a Camel Bak Assault pack. Truly a great combat sustainment system. The British PLCE solved their problem with the Pattern 58 using nylon copied from the US on the ALICE system. The British were very slow in developing nylon type official combat gear. I know many British soldiers buying ARTKIS chest rigs modeled after the Rhodesian combat chest rig and US style ALICE LBE. Once again outstanding presentation!!!
I like it. But I'm with you. I feel like that big open area in the front is wasted real estate. Maybe that's because I'm a skinny guy who has always struggled to fit enough sustainment on my belt on account that my belt is shorter than everyone else's.
PLCE is generally the best all-around option as that's how it was designed. If you're going out at night to kick in doors to kill or capture, then the 'plate carrier' style is better suited to these types of operations. The best incorporation of the two that I've seen between the PLCE and the assault vest (which the British used), was the South African assault vest which tried to combine the two elements. These types of set ups should be your go to as they're designed to cover the most scenarios. All this 'high speed' stuff is so scenario-specific, that it makes it irrelevant to 99.99% of people. Yet certain 'gun-tubers' out there seem to be making a killing off of it. 🤦🏻♂️
The 'high-speed' lightweight plate carrier style is better for the scenarios the average gun owning American civilian could find himself in, since we'll be using our cars to secure our suburbs. We're too fat to use belt kit and too out of shape to go patrolling on foot.
The first mistake is living in any urban area. Vehicles are death-traps. Any road-bound "patrolling" invites ambushing, sniping, drones & IED's. If you're preparing for a massive SHTF scenario, then get the h#@l out of any urban area before it starts. The U.S. Census Bureau, reports as of 2019; that there are 19,502 incorporated places registered in the United States, defined as: "small cities, medium cities, large cities, metropolises, conurbations, and megalopolises". About 76% of the 19,502 incorporated places had fewer than 5,000 people. Of those, almost 42% had fewer than 500 people. Of the nation's 328.2 million people, an estimated 206.9 million (about 63%) lived in an incorporated place. Only 4.0% (780) of all cities had a population of 50,000 or more in 2019, yet nearly 39% of the U.S. population (127.8 million) live in those cities. If you're actually serious about "survival, protecting your family, and quality of life", then move to Rural America, in one of the 16,410 towns with populations under 10,000. Or, accept the decision to live in an urban area that "will, end up like Fallujah in 2004, Huế City in 1968, Manila & Berlin in 1945".
@@discipleajthose don't fall into "scenarios the average gun owning American civilian could find himself in" . EMP sending us back to the steam age is defo something we all need to plan for.
See i agree with you it should be a little more in the front that way you can have an extra pouch. 2 canteens 2 gp and then depending your roll ether a admin and mags or double sets of mags. The british plce was meant for sustainment for 24 hours
They should have Molle'd the whole thing.... that's exactly why I'm building an LBE piece by piece, like with most kit and manufacturers EVERYTHING seems to fall short. It really sucks. It's way more expensive and still have several things going to the sew shop for specific alterations.2 chest rigs and 2 suspender LBE's. I'd like to bring a few things to market but there's soooooooo many companies flooding the space idk if it's even worth doing. Maybe sell the ideas but if something really takes off I'd be kicking myself..... maybe do royalties or something so I just collect $$ no headaches
Love your stuff ! After using the Pattern 82 for three years in the Canadian infantry, i liked the loadout, but hated the components. So about 5 years ago, i set out to build my own. This year, i finally gave it up, and here's why. 1)Access to mags is slower than from drawing from a chest rig and reindexing is not practical. We would drop our empties down our undershirt. 2)To access anything from the buttpack, you need a buddy to get it for you, or you need to take the rig off. This is a problem for me because your ammo is attached. If you have to take it off to access your cook kit, or take a sh*t, and you're ambushed or attacked, there is a chance it gets left behind. Now you have a rifle and no ammo. 3)Unless you are in the back of a military personel carrier, doing the 1 Forward/1 Back seating formation, you are not getting into a civilian vehicle without taking your rig off. Again, you run into the issue with #2. 4) You will eventually run into a problem with 'Strap Stacks'. Sternum and Shoulder straps being stacked on top of each other. Plates- Strap. LBE - Strap. Ruck - Strap. Its awkward at best shouldering a rifle with that many straps, and you run into issues with blood circulation and nerve pinching in the shoulders/arms and neck during prolonged marches. Not to mention, which strap your Comms are going to be connected to. 5) You cant run a belt system (ie, Ronin Belt) underneath to attach your pistol to or other accessories. They will need to be attached to the LBE. So basically, everything i need immediate access to can be placed on a chest rig and comabt belt. Everything else, and more, can be placed in a 3day assault pack. That means, if i need to cook, set up my bivy, dig a hole, or jump into the back of a Prius, all i have to do is take off the pack. But my chest rig, and all the componets to fight, are still attached to my body. And the pack can be placed at my feet. If you are in the military, have access to military resupply, and military vehicles (which have the space), the LBE is a great piece of kit and works wonders with a ruck. However, if you're a civilian, gonna be using civy vehicles and civilian backpacks (35-100ltrs), i think a chest rig loadout as primary fighting kit, is the way to go. Just my 2 cents. I'm glad to see you do a review on this !Great job as usual ! 🎉👍🏻
I can see having couple more pouches added, even have the ability to add a holster, couple extra knifes. I agree the buttpack is smaller id want two of them so i can more magazines
Looks like a good set up. I dont understand the chest rig obsession. Having something mounted center chest seems much more unnatural and uncomfortable than around the waste
Just received mine, love the quality and fitment. Have you had hands on the CF2 or CF3 packs yet? They integrate with the DZ rig but I haven’t seen any reviews on them and I would imagine the DG3 and lower would work well regardless.
I like big butt packs and I cannot lie, you other brothers can’t deny when a G.I. walks in with an itty bitty waist and a round thing in your face……you get sprung, pull up tough ‘Cause you know that butt pack is stuffed 😂😂😂😂😂. Awesome video per usual, love the setup and the concept. Cheers 🍺🤟🫵🇨🇦🫡🇺🇸🫵🤟🍺
I was in Service in the 1970s. A fighting belt and suspenders rig is tried and true for the dismounted. Alice needed help in the 1970s but the newer iterations kind of lost its way in improving what wasn’t working. Wider and a little thicker shoulder pads were great, but not much else. The Brits however perfected the ALICE System. So that it can seamlessly integrate with body armor and assault pack or ruck. This DZ rig System appears to be the cats meow. But not enough for me to switch from my current DIY Frankenstein belt and suspenders rig due to its price. Is it worth the $350, I would pretty much say yes. Everyday use and war take a toll on gear. If you are going to fight never skimp on the essentials. But don’t let not having the best keep you out of the fight. There is always battlefield pickup. I don’t expect to live that long at 70 if war breaks out with China. You younger studs will have to finish it. What I really find great about this product is that it appears to be the best belt and suspenders kit out there. Personally wearing a lightweight dynema ceramic front plate in a slick plate carrier in combat, is the better than no or both plates. That way during static or mounted operations both plates can be carried. But I agree with others that have seen combat. The current issue chest rig is a back injury disaster that doesn’t hold enough fighting kit, and prevents taking cover within the micro terrain when rounds are chewing up the dirt.
I hear you, brother. What sold me on dropping the coin to try this rig, as a possible replacement for my own Frankenrig, was that everyone who has reviewed it claimed that it was one of the most comfortable rigs they have ever humped...and after putting it through some paces myself, I agree. At our age, comfort counts...we may not live that long when that war comes, but I'll suffer just a leeeeetle bit less wearing this thing, before I go to meet our maker. 😉
Have you done a video on pistol consideration while patrolling? Are they a yea or nay and why, and where would put your pistol holster while using this/your rig if you did? Also, what's that cobra buckle made out of and how strong is it?
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I trained in the UK and tried this kind of equipment while doing a seniors course. As a Brazilian, I was not used to operating with many pouches facing backwards, once we normally operate light due to the tropical climate and our gear is generally distributed to the front. However, such load bearing allows you to carry a lot of magazines, canteens, and more, and you can crawl without worrying about how locked your front pouches are in order to avoid losing stuff.
Ps. I almost bought it for 160 pounds, but naahh...
Love to see classic designs being updated with modern insights and thinking to create some really nice products. Thanks for the detailed review!
First rate and detailed review. I too am a big fan of LBE especially old ALICE. This looks like a well put together LBE. For the people who cry about velcro. No one is going to hear your velcro in a gunfight. Thank you for your time and sharing this LBE.
Pretty much an updated/streamlined PLCE/LBE. The one piece solid waist padding is probably the single biggest improvement and should be standard on all LOAD carrying equipment (duh). The QD buckle is also awesome, the plastic ones has never been confidence inspiring, even if they are pretty robust overall. If it wasn't 7x the price of what I once paid for a mint PLCE (with all the bags) I'd very seriously consider it.
yup its a nice idea but not worth the cash considering surplus alternatives
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I couldn’t agree more with your evaluation of the bad habits GWOT gave us. There are many times you need LBE but not armor. Crossing a canal or river. And many times you need armor but not gear. Working party.
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I bought the Tiger Stripe Rig in February 24. Very pleased with the Crossfire Rig. Quality great, if you get XL version the middle rear utility pouch is a larger design than on L version. Only drawback so far is that the mag pouches just barly take an AK mag. Helikon and others have been selling multiuse AR/AK pouches for years, would only take a little more material. Thanks Brent for 10% off code, helps family men in these times.
You're able to barely fit 1, 2, or 3 AK mags in the pouches built for 3 5.56 mags?
I run an AK 7.62 and a Galil Ace gen 2 in.308. I'm interested in using this rig for those calibers. The padding sounds great for the weight. Ha ha ha
P.s. what are the chances of getting a drum into the larger GP pouches?
do you run a ruck with it, the site says its supposed to work well with rucks compared to other lbes but they only really say they work with other crossfire packs, do you have any experience with non crossfire rucks?
I use the Highlander Trooper 44L pack, the Karimore Sabre 45L and the Berghaus Centurio 45L MMPS with the rig.
Good overview brother!!
I agree about adding more real estate panels on the front, I get why they did it that way but it means you have to put more sustainment in your Pack/ Ruck or other Line Gear.
While the Mag/ side Pouches are removable, the rear Sustainment Pouch isn't, which means it would have to be run empty for certain kinds of Rucks (Jager/ Bergan style) that are longer and rest at the small of the back where that Pouch is located, and would have to be loaded after movement and setting up a PB or OP/LP or whatever in the operational process. I'd like to see that pouch optional and able to be removed/ added as needed.
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Ive been using Jayjay's webbing for 2yrs and didnt think it could get better, but this looks even better, simpler to adjust, and the larger rear pouch definitely beats the 2 canteen-size pouches in the rear of my current kit
Seriously considering flipping my Jay Jay's Gen 4 for one of these myself.
See for me i love the jayjays webbing cause of the typical plce set
Im inclined to agree with you. I have the jayjays commanders webbing and i really want a buttpack but seeing as how id need a small day pack for snivel and wet weather gear anyway, its close enough in efficacy that i wont change it up. Theyre super similar
Looking forward to picking up a used JayJays ;)
@@CallofWar5 British style webbing is meant to be run with a day pack. You can get around it though if you get a smock with enough pockets
Thanks Brent. This rig is on my wish list for 2024.
Nice thing about the patrol order is that you can easily add a micro rig to get more gear and still be low to the ground. Issue with that, though, then becomes all the strapping. Belt kit, micro rig, pack, and maybe body armor is a lot. If you're looking for a good belt kit Ive used the SORD patrol order for years and its great.
I supplement my PLCE rig with a micro chest rig it works great.
I good to see more LBEs popping up. I run the nixie and the jungle rig and love them both but both do similar jobs but for different POU the nixie LFR is great for a minute man, grab that your rifle and maybe your helmet. The jungle rig is more in line with this DZ for the war fighter where you need a ruck for what you need for the mission, and you are your own resupply. I'm curious if the velocity systems jungle rig harness would work on the DZ belt. I personally like to wear my straps under my armor so I can ditch my armor if needed because water + heavy + needing to breathe = not a good time but that's my AO lots of rivers and if I loose anything I don't want to lose what I need to fight dudes had been getting down stacking bodies without armor for a long time but if I can have both that's always welcomed.
Now THIS is the review I was waiting for!!!
I like the setup of your old harness but i like the comfort and ability to get low on this new harness. Im a big fan of your videos Marine thank you. Im glad youre on our side
This is a great review and im definitely considering getting it. Ive been scavending and improvising a similar LBE setup using surplus ALICE gear and various pouches according to needs. This one looks very comfortable, capable and modern.
Do it. This or the jayjays webbing are a huge improvement iver the alice (where i started my belt harness journey)
Solid vest and good review
Not sure why they didnt put molle on the front of the shoulder straps. The Russians have been running their LBE for two decades and the suspenders are their favourite place to mount small med pouches (TQ & combat gauze) or grenade pouches used as small GP pouches for compass, headlamp, notepad. Can always mount pouches using some 550 on this, but still.
Also the Cobra is a patented design by AustriAlpin, an Austrian mountain climbing firm that's become the gold standard for climbing harnesses.
I agree, the Smerch has been around and in active combat so much, its been perfected quite well. And the molle (especially if laser cut) costs barely anything for a ton of added functionality. Not just med pouches, but also for things like cable/hydration routing
@@tHaH4x0r True. Just having straps you can loop things through vertically adds a lot of functionality. Not sure what to do with the ones on the DZ Rig.
Gonna guess that they figure the addition of a small backpack or assault pack and thus didn't want interference betwixt the two.
This kit looks like it's meant and designed to be used in conjunction with slick or minimalist PCs which are extremely commonplace now. I think that's the reason anything on the front end was left very much naked. It's ironic how slick/min carriers are at their peak right now but if you look to RUclips and active military trends LBE/big loadout rigs are making a huge comeback due to the change in warfare the last 3 years with Ukraine and Israel. We're hitting an apex where both are going to overlap and this is a really good solution to throw under/over a simple PC that just has plates and maybe a triple mag front placard, which is exactly why I'm interested in it. It's an almost perfected LBE made to go with new age carriers, essentially.
I have headtorches, one on my left webbing strap and one on the right bergen strap,
Pulled the headstraps off and laced the plce strap in to secure them.
Perfectly angled down for map use/faffing and I have green tape over the lens to dim.
Love the vids. Im glad you take the time to explain every detail. Very useful info.
Very impressive equipment and an awesome presentation of the DZ Rig! Thanks for your time on that. I'm sold!
Always appreciate your reviews and insight, another great review.
Thanks
Also my favorite type of gear ,Great intro and clip variety.
Got that 2024 vibes going
Excellant video upload! And excellent LBE setup!! Great to see LBEs coming back!
I really like that kit. I was recon with the Airborne in Vicenza late 80s early 90s. Traveling fast and light LBE is the way to go. The butt pack was key along with a good Vietnam era H-harness. With LBE and a large ruck we could last over a week in the field.
Excellent review.
Looks like a great rig. Definitely interested in it, myself. I have an Eagle Industries H Harness that basically does the same job, but this looks less bulky
I hear you on wanting more pouches in the front however id still prefer this clean front setup so there is no impediments to kneeling/ crawling, and my thighs wont knock the rig around while running like some other setups ive used. A small assault pack like the savotta jaakari small is an excellent pairing.
I have a chest rig mini, which when it is not on the front i carry on my back in light order, or on my Bergen or daysack which gives me options. I like to get very low to the ground when necessary. I used to have my knife, altimeter pouch and compass pouch at the front but they caused problems so moved them onto my ammo pouches side straps. Those packs from Varustelekka are very good
Crossfire gear is the best Ive seen so far, the webbing waist protection is something that they have really nailed well, webbing protection was the holy grail of comfort when using the issued webbing and we always had to source after market belt padding (doubled up and taped together). I used to let my pack rest on my webbing rear ammo pouches without the shoulder straps of the webbing. This meant the pack weight was entirely on my hips. Loosening the pack shoulder straps and there’s no weight on the shoulders, you can carry full battle order and walk further.
Thanks so much for review of this equipment due I like load bearing rig instead of vest type set up it current troops run usually. It looks to be way more comfortable than current equipment. Thanks great video Brennt! Keep videos coming!
What's old is new again... I'm glad we're moving back to LCE's. Albeit updated. There were many times overseas that I wish I could have just used ALICE stuff. Of course, command was all about "but muh uniformity"...
I made a similar setup out of a surplus coyote tan USMC M203 belt/bandoleer. I love the thing. Nothing towards the center of your waist/body and it’s great.
If anybody can review and rate this gear its this guy!
Nice job! I wouldn't be surprised if that Aussie canteen was a 2 lt looked a bit larger than the 1qt and 1 lr bottles.
Looks great, look forward to it being in stock.
The buckles on the mag and utility pouches on PLCE are for stabilising/integrating the rocket pack (daysack made from Bergen side pockets). Not sure how much this was used but probably not ideal for a bigger bag.
Seems like a awesome rig, like those mag Pouches
I reviewed the online info and compared it with the Jay-Jays belt kit. I liked the Jay-Jays spacer mesh and 4 pouches better than the Crossfire, but Jay-Jays didn't have any MTP pattern in stock. I ran ALICE and early assault vests in the 90s, the FLC, the TAP, micro-rigs and direct attached pouches on my plate carrier through the years, it will be interesting to see if British-style belt kit is a better solution. I appreciate your review, it was helpful in deciding to pull the trigger - here's hoping it is worth the cost!
Good video, it looks to me that you are wearing it a tad high. Especially the back. “Airborne webbing” rides lower than say Alice. Also the webbing is worn under a PC. The other reason for being clear across the front is for Tabbing / Rucking. If you are wearing it lower any pouch forward will rub your thighs while tabbing. It’s interesting that they designed it to run mags that way. Opposite to normal. Can’t wait to see a set in person.
Pretty nice! Good modularity and especially good comfort. Cant beat that! Thanks, Brent!!
Great video!
BZ!
Another good argument for LBE is that you can wear the plate carrier, then your insulating layer/protective layers, and then the LBE on top.
No need to squeeze the insulating layer/protective layers under the plate carrier.
The plate carrier itself will trap warm, dry air as a pseudo insulating layer.
The protective layer will keep the plate carrier dry, thus reducing weight.
Awesome, love your videos Brent! I have been a fan for three years. Thank you for sharing. Keep it up, brother!
Similar to how I kitted out as a Gunner 2 pouches one with an extra belt one with cleaning kit, Bar type Secateurs etc 4 water bottles 2 cups canteen one for cooking & brews the other for shaving etc. Plus Back pack. You could always rest with the Belt unclipped but still over your shoulders. Almost forgot the compulsory 10 ft of coiled rope and occasional Machettee if not on my pack.
Intro definitely gave that Swarzenegger Commando vibe Devil
Very nice belt kit. Similar to the JayJays commanders webbing. Thanks for the review 👍
I'm looking forward to SERE season 3, this looks like some good gear.
You're in for a treat this season, its criminal that series hasn't taken off.
I always liked the LBE for it's versatility. The ability to layer protective gear, clothing, or armor according to environmentals. The ability to ruck with it. Not to mention only having 3 items to keep track of. 1 LBE, 2 armor, 3 pack. No arguments.
Everything now is about modularity and maybe that is better in todays high tech battlespace. But it doesn't do as well carrying a standardized 'general infantryman' loadout where the whole system has been designed to work together. That huge rectangular triple pouch of the old finnish m85 swallowed a ton of stuff, and it provided a flat shelf for the rucksack to rest on top of and transferred the weight to your hips on long patrols.
Excellent review Brent. I'm gonna pick one of these up.
That is very interesting! I am going to have to get one of these.
Good review! Those permanently affixed female fastex buckles on the belt and sewn back pouches are a deal breaker for me. Kind of a throw back to the British 1908 pattern webbing where the large pack and small pack were affixed to the web belt. This kind of thing was done away with in the 1937 and subsequent web patterns, but Crossfire has brought it back after 100 years! I will stick with my ALICE style setup with a proper buttpack.
Permanently fixed pouches are more rigid and/or lighter than any detachable method. Also slightly less prone to bulking up. If you don't need to be changing shit around, giving away some modularity can have its upsides too.
Great kit and the style I prefer! I understand this is 'new' and the price reflects that!. If I didn't already have invested in so much mil-surp of the same style (ALICE, Eagle, etc.) I'd get the DZ Rig. Looks well made and in several color flavors. If/when I have to don plates (I don't often) - I like to go minimalist and slick and wear the 'kit' over the armor. I'm an 'open front' kind a guy so the DZ Rig instantly caught my attention. Good review!
You need to take a look at British airborne webbing by dragon supplies ..different versions for specialist roles very popular with UK troops
The right side ammo pouches could be used for 4 STANAG as re supply or put a MOLLE equipped larger pouch and fit the mags. In the UK we have a "commander" size pouch or a SAW pouch that could do that job, as you mentioned the MOLLE compatibility. I also have a rolled up "dump pouch" on my left side just to the rear of my ammo pouches for empty mags. Have always used a similar rig in the UK forces, this one reminds me of PLCE with a single 1958 sized kidney pouch at the rear which was a mod many of my colleagues used, by splitting a pair of Kidney pouches. We also used a similar set up by combining two Bergen side pouches zipped together as a backpack or the daysack.
For a time many of us fitted our combat knife(not issued but personal choice) to the left shoulder strap "Vietnam " style but higher authority stopped it for some reason. The ladder straps on your yoke seem ideally suited for that. We also carry a length of webbing strap with two karabiners attached 8 metres long called a Jungle Loop Line (or in arctic a white version Arctic Loop Line) for use as a safety line for river crossings etc.
PLCE style or LBE is always more versatile.
Currently using similar to PLCE with personal purchase items to upgrade. I agree with most of what you said it makes good tactical sense. God speed and a salute from the UK
That's exactly what I am looking for. Only issue is that in 2024 I will buy hunting equipment, optic and rifle so I don't have money to spare for it, but I am definitely keeping it in mind for the future.
Definently looks like a really good LBE system Brent!
I agree with your comment regarding not attaching it to the ruck.
Too bad that the center pouch wasn't larger, like a butt pack.
If not wearing a large pack, adding a CamelBak hydration bladder/pack is a good idea.
I dont like having all rifle mags on one side, the balance will be off.
if i did not have a smersh and a brit load bearing kit this would be on the list to buy for sure
They messed up not having it in stock right now. Great vid!
I'm coming full circle back to the lbe, also you can wear the plate carrier on top of the suspenders and equipment
Those 2L aussie canteens fit well in the mk7 but less so in the belt kit. Definitely on the list now for this belt kit. Wish they still sold the DG-1. Great video.
Thanks brother, appreciate it. So I made a mistake those canteens are SADF not Australian. Thanks for watching.
Hi Oliver, we will be releasing an updated version of the DG1 this year and are currently in the final stages of design. Thanks for the support in our company and hoping you are liking the Mk7. We designed the hydration for 1L or 1qt canteens or nalgene style bottles with nesting, as 1L is standard for all western militaries these days. If more hydration is needed that's where the daypack or ruck come in with modern approaches like hydration bladders internally stored with hydration tubes.
Cheers
Subject… the open front on the belt. I was in the 82d Airborne infantry. My LBE evolved over time a lot. One of those evolutions was moving everything back on the belt, here’s why. Yes, laying on the ground on my belly was more comfortable and necessary, the balance of the rig was way better, and attaching the front suspender strap back onto the point of where my side belt loops are on the LBE is another hot tip. Also, loosing the LBE straps to let the load ride down on the hips, not high on the waste. The load should ride on the hips not the high waste. Find that point of comfort that works for you. Last, when the load is buckled up while walking, those mag pouch’s won’t dig into the front of your thighs on every step. Freedom of movement is so much better with no equipment in the way.
Also, I would suggest balancing your load much better by putting mags on both sides, no just one side.
Looks interesting, may pick one up. Currently running an eagle H harness. On the note of losing the real estate up front, I would supplement that with a small chest rig in conjunction with the belt kit like some MAC V SOG guys did with chicom rigs. I tried that myself last 1S semester and liked it a lot.
I am a fan of the older Alice Equipment. H harness style. I was issued the Y harness. But went into O'side and bought a H harness. And probably a couple of Carne Asada burritos from Colimas. I hated the FLCS cause it's a molle road guard vest that twists and you had to untangle.
My cousin bought me a TAPS for Xmas that I'll be modding out. Been watching videos on that. So that's my next project. I have two Army Ranger cousins and a Marine Recon nephew. In good company.
And that's where I have landed in general. How Marine Recon and Force guys run their stuff. Cause I believe that's the model for a supposed New Age Minute Man. Live and die with what you brought. It's about to get heavy Sgt Major.💪🏻🇺🇸
Pull tab style is called ' tuck tabs' and we're likely to see more of it on new generation gear as it eliminates the plastic 'Fastex' buckles. Some say they're 'faster' than the buckles for what that's worth (reloading behind cover). I haven't seen the tuck tab system without Velcro yet but I'm sure we will. At that point I may have to 'upgrade' my own kit pouches although I don't get the 'noise' factor of Velcro anyway. Why are you pullin' mags in the first place? Yeah - that's right.
In the Australian army load bearing belt rigs were always issued along with plate carriers. Im torn between chest rigs and lbe, even in the Malaysian jungles i wore a light jungle chest rig over the belt simply because i hated the bounce when running or it getting caught on thick scrub if i was trying to push through it. If i needed more weight id take the small bulloch pack same as what you have on in this video.
I do rly like the way they made the belt super wide unlike companies like velocity where they use thin ones. We'd zip tie two belts together to make one wide belt so you didnt get chaffing from pouches. I havent used belt kit in over 10 years so maybe i should give it a go again.
Looks pretty good. Of course, you can mod an ALICE/LBV to make it close to this product--for example, the british 4-point yoke, a cut up sleeping mat or surplus hip pad, any belt buckle you want, etc. But this looks more comfortable and much more secure than putting molle pouches on an alice belt. Plus, good 'ol M81 and tiger stripe as pattern options.
It looks like the daisy chain on the back of the harness could serve the same function as the d-rings that tie into the buttpack to support it from the yoke instead of just resting on the beltline.
Thanks for the first look, I'm eager to hear your impression after running it through the Grunt Grinder 🤙
Never has this gear when I was in the old LBE which they seam to be going back to
Thanks for the information!
Reminds me of my old Black hawk ISSAK system. I am running SAW pouches on it. 👍
The one thing I wish they would leave out of updated designs is velcro. At night everything seems 1000% louder and I hate the thought of ripping open a pouch. I was in the army in early 90’s when we wore the LBE/LCE’s that had the plastic clip buckles and metal snaps which could be opened quietly.
Hey Brent, 2024 I wish you a very good one, greatings from Germany
Thanks brother.
Really great review.
Always love lbe content
I was sold at crossfire and cobra buckle.
I love it. My only issue would be finding a way to carry a sidearm.
I got to get one!
Thank you 😺
It looks like the British PLCE from the 90s. Very good design in my opinion because it's so much stable when you tighten up everything especially wearing body armor. I really love the ALICE LBE but the PLCE harness makes it much stable. Another observation is chest rigs are good for urban combat but this PLCE and ALICE system is best for sustainment for combat that you can carry more ammo and spare ammo, food, and water, wearing a light assault pack for a 24 or 48 hour fight in any terrain. I have gone back to the ALICE LBE with 2 spare canteens, butt pack, 4 ammo pouches, H-Harness, Chicom 3 cell chest rig, with a Camel Bak Assault pack. Truly a great combat sustainment system. The British PLCE solved their problem with the Pattern 58 using nylon copied from the US on the ALICE system. The British were very slow in developing nylon type official combat gear. I know many British soldiers buying ARTKIS chest rigs modeled after the Rhodesian combat chest rig and US style ALICE LBE. Once again outstanding presentation!!!
But when will it be available? Thanks for the review.
Yep the good old British PLCE Infantry webbing.. 🇬🇧
That looks like a great KIT to have.
I like it. But I'm with you. I feel like that big open area in the front is wasted real estate. Maybe that's because I'm a skinny guy who has always struggled to fit enough sustainment on my belt on account that my belt is shorter than everyone else's.
PLCE is generally the best all-around option as that's how it was designed. If you're going out at night to kick in doors to kill or capture, then the 'plate carrier' style is better suited to these types of operations. The best incorporation of the two that I've seen between the PLCE and the assault vest (which the British used), was the South African assault vest which tried to combine the two elements. These types of set ups should be your go to as they're designed to cover the most scenarios. All this 'high speed' stuff is so scenario-specific, that it makes it irrelevant to 99.99% of people. Yet certain 'gun-tubers' out there seem to be making a killing off of it. 🤦🏻♂️
The 'high-speed' lightweight plate carrier style is better for the scenarios the average gun owning American civilian could find himself in, since we'll be using our cars to secure our suburbs. We're too fat to use belt kit and too out of shape to go patrolling on foot.
The first mistake is living in any urban area. Vehicles are death-traps. Any road-bound "patrolling" invites ambushing, sniping, drones & IED's.
If you're preparing for a massive SHTF scenario, then get the h#@l out of any urban area before it starts.
The U.S. Census Bureau, reports as of 2019; that there are 19,502 incorporated places registered in the United States, defined as: "small cities, medium cities, large cities, metropolises, conurbations, and megalopolises".
About 76% of the 19,502 incorporated places had fewer than 5,000 people. Of those, almost 42% had fewer than 500 people.
Of the nation's 328.2 million people, an estimated 206.9 million (about 63%) lived in an incorporated place. Only 4.0% (780) of all cities had a population of 50,000 or more in 2019, yet nearly 39% of the U.S. population (127.8 million) live in those cities.
If you're actually serious about "survival, protecting your family, and quality of life", then move to Rural America, in one of the 16,410 towns with populations under 10,000.
Or, accept the decision to live in an urban area that "will, end up like Fallujah in 2004, Huế City in 1968, Manila & Berlin in 1945".
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@@pootytang2872 See how that works out post EMP or when China sets up road blocks for you to contend with.
@@discipleajthose don't fall into "scenarios the average gun owning American civilian could find himself in" . EMP sending us back to the steam age is defo something we all need to plan for.
This should be the standard loadout for gun teams operating 240s & 249s. CIF has to step up their game!
Looking bad ass as always
See i agree with you it should be a little more in the front that way you can have an extra pouch. 2 canteens 2 gp and then depending your roll ether a admin and mags or double sets of mags. The british plce was meant for sustainment for 24 hours
I am finally understanding this system! Thanks for the video! How do you get a pistol, with that load out?
2 options really.
1. Attach a drop leg to your regular trouser belt.
2. Remove the double molle mag pouch and put a holster on that respective side.
They should have Molle'd the whole thing.... that's exactly why I'm building an LBE piece by piece, like with most kit and manufacturers EVERYTHING seems to fall short. It really sucks. It's way more expensive and still have several things going to the sew shop for specific alterations.2 chest rigs and 2 suspender LBE's. I'd like to bring a few things to market but there's soooooooo many companies flooding the space idk if it's even worth doing. Maybe sell the ideas but if something really takes off I'd be kicking myself..... maybe do royalties or something so I just collect $$ no headaches
DZ Rig just became available in last 24hrs and the L/XL in Ranger & M81 are already gone. Maybe theyre waiting on more stock
Love your stuff !
After using the Pattern 82 for three years in the Canadian infantry, i liked the loadout, but hated the components. So about 5 years ago, i set out to build my own. This year, i finally gave it up, and here's why.
1)Access to mags is slower than from drawing from a chest rig and reindexing is not practical. We would drop our empties down our undershirt.
2)To access anything from the buttpack, you need a buddy to get it for you, or you need to take the rig off. This is a problem for me because your ammo is attached. If you have to take it off to access your cook kit, or take a sh*t, and you're ambushed or attacked, there is a chance it gets left behind. Now you have a rifle and no ammo.
3)Unless you are in the back of a military personel carrier, doing the 1 Forward/1 Back seating formation, you are not getting into a civilian vehicle without taking your rig off. Again, you run into the issue with #2.
4) You will eventually run into a problem with 'Strap Stacks'. Sternum and Shoulder straps being stacked on top of each other. Plates- Strap. LBE - Strap. Ruck - Strap. Its awkward at best shouldering a rifle with that many straps, and you run into issues with blood circulation and nerve pinching in the shoulders/arms and neck during prolonged marches. Not to mention, which strap your Comms are going to be connected to.
5) You cant run a belt system (ie, Ronin Belt) underneath to attach your pistol to or other accessories. They will need to be attached to the LBE.
So basically, everything i need immediate access to can be placed on a chest rig and comabt belt. Everything else, and more, can be placed in a 3day assault pack.
That means, if i need to cook, set up my bivy, dig a hole, or jump into the back of a Prius, all i have to do is take off the pack. But my chest rig, and all the componets to fight, are still attached to my body. And the pack can be placed at my feet.
If you are in the military, have access to military resupply, and military vehicles (which have the space), the LBE is a great piece of kit and works wonders with a ruck. However, if you're a civilian, gonna be using civy vehicles and civilian backpacks (35-100ltrs), i think a chest rig loadout as primary fighting kit, is the way to go.
Just my 2 cents. I'm glad to see you do a review on this !Great job as usual ! 🎉👍🏻
Check out the nixie works light fighter rig. Its kinda the same set up just with a bigger butt pack.
looks awesome
I can see having couple more pouches added, even have the ability to add a holster, couple extra knifes. I agree the buttpack is smaller id want two of them so i can more magazines
I love it! They should make them in OD!
Looks like a good set up. I dont understand the chest rig obsession. Having something mounted center chest seems much more unnatural and uncomfortable than around the waste
Because of mechanized warfare. Anyone using vehicles to get in and out of fights are better off with chest rig setups.
>doesn't like something
>its an "obsession"
Get over yourself bro
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I like to use a double mag pouch for a small survival kit.
Just received mine, love the quality and fitment. Have you had hands on the CF2 or CF3 packs yet? They integrate with the DZ rig but I haven’t seen any reviews on them and I would imagine the DG3 and lower would work well regardless.
that's a 2 litre canteen , the aussie one , same volume as the similar sadf square ones
Great review on the DZ right but where did you get the frog skin tarp?!?
I like big butt packs and I cannot lie, you other brothers can’t deny when a G.I. walks in with an itty bitty waist and a round thing in your face……you get sprung, pull up tough ‘Cause you know that butt pack is stuffed 😂😂😂😂😂. Awesome video per usual, love the setup and the concept. Cheers 🍺🤟🫵🇨🇦🫡🇺🇸🫵🤟🍺
I was in Service in the 1970s. A fighting belt and suspenders rig is tried and true for the dismounted. Alice needed help in the 1970s but the newer iterations kind of lost its way in improving what wasn’t working. Wider and a little thicker shoulder pads were great, but not much else. The Brits however perfected the ALICE System. So that it can seamlessly integrate with body armor and assault pack or ruck. This DZ rig System appears to be the cats meow. But not enough for me to switch from my current DIY Frankenstein belt and suspenders rig due to its price. Is it worth the $350, I would pretty much say yes. Everyday use and war take a toll on gear. If you are going to fight never skimp on the essentials. But don’t let not having the best keep you out of the fight. There is always battlefield pickup. I don’t expect to live that long at 70 if war breaks out with China. You younger studs will have to finish it. What I really find great about this product is that it appears to be the best belt and suspenders kit out there. Personally wearing a lightweight dynema ceramic front plate in a slick plate carrier in combat, is the better than no or both plates. That way during static or mounted operations both plates can be carried. But I agree with others that have seen combat. The current issue chest rig is a back injury disaster that doesn’t hold enough fighting kit, and prevents taking cover within the micro terrain when rounds are chewing up the dirt.
I hear you, brother. What sold me on dropping the coin to try this rig, as a possible replacement for my own Frankenrig, was that everyone who has reviewed it claimed that it was one of the most comfortable rigs they have ever humped...and after putting it through some paces myself, I agree. At our age, comfort counts...we may not live that long when that war comes, but I'll suffer just a leeeeetle bit less wearing this thing, before I go to meet our maker. 😉
I think i need one.
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Have you done a video on pistol consideration while patrolling? Are they a yea or nay and why, and where would put your pistol holster while using this/your rig if you did? Also, what's that cobra buckle made out of and how strong is it?