External Hard Drives and Your DAW
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2017
- Hey guys! By request, I'm sharing my external hard drive setup / thoughts for mixing and production work.
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please please please can you make a video telling the steps how to move sample libraries from your mac to the hard drive and work efficiently plesssssssssssssse
10.4.2 you can just 'move library'
Get the symbolic linker app. You put the actual file on your hard drive, then you the app to create a linked folder which you'll put on your Mac where logic usually installs it (mac/library/audio) to make it think that it's installed on the mac itself
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Sean. Honestly. I think you have some of the best videos that I have seen on youtube for everything related to music production and its ins and outs. Literally everything that I have looked up because I need quality information to help with my production, it's always your videos that pop up or somehow end up on your page with perfect and effective advice or how to's. To me your channel is the go to on these things from now on and I hope RUclips, the community here and producers alike continue to recognize you for your time and efforts. Hope you read this is you ever get down or anything, you are definitely making an impact. Thank you man.
Wow, thank you so much for sharing this! It's encouraging to hear the videos are still helping, very inspiring and much appreciated 🙏
DEFINITELY agree with this!!
Thanks for sharing Sean! Can't stress enough the importance of creating a system backup - I had a major 'incident' on Monday and had to restore my primary drive - I backup daily so was able to get back up and running in a couple hours or so. Information doesn't exist unless it's in more than one place. Keep'em coming bud!
Love your vids man, straight to the point and packed with solid information.. Keep it up bro
great advice, Sean! I will be updating my OS in the near future to take once again advantage of the RAID configuration using two USB 3 HDDs.
Great tips! Especially the SSD comments 👊🏽
Just bought the Diamond bundle and your templates - Keep being good brotha.
I've bee having computer crashing issues and problems with my DAW a lot recently, and I believe this could help! I haven't tried saving stuff on external drives and I have an 2012 iMac that's starting to move really slow, especially because I have a lot of sessions and projects that I'm recording, mixing, etc... Thank you for making this video!
sure thing Justus, it will definitely help!
Ayyeee!! I was waitin on this for a long time. Thx man🙏
I learned things watching this video - thus I have liked and subscribed :D
Great channel, no loud "Hey Guys" b/s at the start. Always on point and right to the content!
Sooooooo gooooooood! Always look forward to your uploads
Its the same setup I have on my system. I have a backup SSD external for Software and libraries. I have another SSD for songs and projects. This is a good approach to handling files and software.
Thanks it really helps me I'm an amateur beat Maker I know I'm getting something big for this for Christmas 😎
Damn good info!!! I currently have a 1TB Glyph Studio that stays put and a 1TB G-Drive portable with thunderbolt and they're pretty much clones. But you did give me a good idea and thats to get an additional drive for Time Machine backup. Hopefully viewers will heed this info. Mac or PC, they can go down.
Thanks so much! Storage has always been one of those problems for me!! And this is a cheap and easy solution! Here I am about to buy internal $200 SSD’s for my laptop. Thx
Great tips man! Just started using my Samsung EVO 850 SSD as an external drive and it's been killer!
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Thank you for this! I had a hard drive that crashed and I lost so much stuff
Great Vid! been doing this for years
I wish I'd done this 2 years ago! Great video... I'm moving to this set up now (in 2020) and looking forward to more regular back-ups!
Hi Sean. Do you have any advise about configuring iCloud settings once I have moved all my DAW audio files to an external hard drive. It seems that iCloud has "iCloud Drive" which stores certain app data back on the internal hard drive which seems to defeat the purpose. I would like to keep the DAW files in a cloud storage incase I loose the external hard drive but I don't want iCloud putting them back on my Mac's drive.
Great info! Thank you!
Very good video and very good way to organize your data! One addition I would suggest would be to do backups of (one) of the external drives like once a day to a third drive. Having two copies of everything, as you do, is a great way to protect your data. Having a third copy is even better. Imagine the situation that when the primary drive fails and you see it at first when the data is backuped or synchronized to the second drive. Then you have corrupted also your second drive. Hence the need for a third drive. If your external drives are set up as RAID 1, that would of course not occur and you would be notified when a drive failure is detected. The other drive would still function and you would not loose any data. Using RAID 1 also means that if you accidentally delete something, that data is immediately deleted on the second external drive as well. Also in this case, a third drive would save your day. I would do the backup to the third drive like once a day and store it outside of your studio. That way you would not loose any data even if your studio burns in the night.
good idea Bengt
Would iCloud work as a 3rd drive?
New Sub for sure! Love your flow and knowledge. Thanks!!!
welcome! :)
Hi Sean. I have been watching many of you videos on making harmony since I bought the Harmony Engine and I just recently bought the Waves Harmony plug-in as well. After watching this video on External Hard Drives I agree with one of your other subscribers. I would like for you to make another video on how to back up you computer using a SSD external hard drive for a Mac and Cubase 12. That is what I am trying my best to learn how to do. I am still wishing you continued success with all of your music and all of your endeavors. Have a wonderful day.
I’ll see what I can do! Appreciate the feedback.
Good fundamentals learned here. Thanks.
Thanks! Super helpful
Hi Sean can I save all my waves plugins on my external hard drive and keep my Mac Pro empty as I only have 8Gb 256 and the D in the top right hand corner of Ableton starts flashing and my cpu goes way too high.i have a lot of waves plugins.so that takes alot of space.i only have instruments and samples on the external hard drive
Hi, I recently purchased an external Samsung T5 1TB SSD drive and when I play MP3's or WAV's, my audio stutters, is choppy and cuts out! I am using a USB 3.0 cable that goes into my USB 3.0 ports on my laptop. I tried it on all ports and it does the same. I have no idea what the problem could be. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your time.
So... if you're recording your session to a external HD how does that affect the latency for live recordings?
Thanks Man! Awesome
Hello Sean,
Good info. I too use an older Mac with and external G-drive for my session data. I'm looking for a good backup software solution that can make a clone of the system drive and incremental backups of my session data drive. Any recommendations?
Can they be used as a main hard drive instead of the one that brings the internal iMac or not?
Would it be better to run two external hard drives at the same time in terms of efficiency? One for storing libraries and one saving your Logic (and audio) files?
Great video. Especially important to backup and to use multiple drives for improved performance.
Just for further clarification, it's not the fact that you have "external" drives that make it faster, it's the fact that your session and media data are stored on a separate drive than the OS & DAW/plugins software. So you can have an internal SSD for your OS & DAW & plugins, then an internal SSD or Hard Drive for all your session files. The "external" factor doesn't add any performance benefits. I go a step further and keep all of my sample library content (NI Komplete Ultimate, Steinberg VST sound library, etc.) on a 3rd drive so that reading the library content doesn't bog the system down.
how much space capacity would you say for the external?
@@WoWLaZ I guess it depends on what you're trying to do. Sometimes when a drive is closer to being full you begin to lose some performance out of the drive. So having no more than 75% would be ideal. Also, it would be ideal to only buy new drives no sooner than every 4 years or so. If you work on tons of clients' music, you might want to go no smaller than 4 GBs. You'll future proof your workflow and system a little bit that way. But price is a factor as well. You may want to keep all your sample library on the external drive and move all your clients' content that's older than 2 years onto a 3rd drive to help keep your main external drive relatively clean.
Could you, or would you happen to have a video or step by step exporting existing files to the hard drive, and setting up the system to automatically save to the external HD?
so if I to install my vst's and other samples on external while DAW on internal SSD give better performance?
I got two externals one with my libraries and projects and the second with a Time Machine backup of the internal and the external.
so you need to back up the external daily(time machine), is that complicated to do? and the library hard drive is always plug in in your computer? do you have 2 hard drives in your computer , if you have 2 partitions then what do you use your second partition for? is it projects?
@@findingtruth7323 No its not hard to do, once you set up time machine to back up both.I have a usb 3 dongle that has five ports so my drives are always connected. I have two Seagate external hard drives BTW
My laptop is filled with projects, samples etc 🙄🙄
I want to send everything yo my external hard drive but im scared my fl studio wont find the files for the projects
Hi Sean I got an issue with ext drives .I have a Seagate 2T and a 1T Samsung and occasionally I have to flip from pc to Mac Pro according to the project (Ableton live 10) and sometimes ,well most times the project won't open. Any ideas for a compatible external drive.
Cheers
Fucking thank you. I’ve literally been looking for a simple explanation like this for months. Nicely tied together all the bits of knowledge vomit I’ve collected over the web without trying to sound like you have a computer IQ of 3000 in the process.
:) glad to hear it!
i have ssd 250 gig with the system and 1tb hard drive on a second partition, what would you recommend me to do, to buy a external ssd and keep the library there and save the projects on the D partition 1 tb which is in the computer.? if annybody knows i would greatly appriciate yall help thank yuo!
If i move my sessions to the external drive. I can delete the sessions in the laptop? Correct? And thats what frees up the space
is it ok leaving your ssd plugged the whole day when the pc is on,,,do u leave it plugged even when not mixing ?
How do you actually do this? How do all of your session files get saved to the external while recording a project? I’m using a Logic Pro. Thanks!
appreciate this so much brother!
glad it helped! 🙌
Great video, thank you very much. I just wanted to comment, you mentioned Time Machine for your OS back up. But if I'm not mistaken, even if you recoup information from a time machine back up, you still have to install a fresh new OS. That means that you lose all your plug-in installations And daw programs which can be very dreadful! I've been there. I will recommend carbon copy which Ive been using. It is very fast, very effective, and you can use it as a start up OS drive as long as your computer permits starting up from an external drive. Good luck and once again thank you for a great video.
thanks Diego! I've used carbon copy also, great software for backups!
I have been cloning my hard drive for 5 years now. If you work with music is a must.
DJ GeorgiePorgie How do you do this?
Do u use a program for that ?
Cabrawl I’m still trynna figure that out also
Scooter1 lol from what I found online I think there’s a program u can purchase called carbon clone. Someone correct me if I’m wrong
Macrium Reflect free!! Clone the whole drive including the OS. You won't be sorry..... easy peasy!!
How do you copy from your main 2 TB external to the clone drive? Do you just drag it over after every session? Thanks Great video!
Great video G! 💯
thanks!
Hey Sean if I'm not asking too much can u do a video and show us how to transfer all files to the external hard drive and run the logic software off ur external hard drive 🙌🏾
Also can you show how you can run vst plugins thru your external hard drive
How do you recommend to format HDD's and SSD's? I'm a windows 10 user. Thanks!
Thanks for the tips !
sure thing!
Yo Sean
How did u clone your external HD?
Thanks, very helpful!
glad to hear it!
Assuming a newbie has just purchased something like Studio One Pro and Native instruments Komplete, (obviously using huge sample files), how would you allocate your files between the internal disk (and its partitions) and the external drives. The idea being so the the CPU and RAM are not being overwhelmed?
Very helpful info thanks. 👍
glad to hear it
Is their a way to move my plugins from my internal hardrive to my external one without having to mess with the licenses? Up until recently I’ve always downloaded my plugins onto my internal hardive and was looking to free up some space on my Mac HD
So much thanks bro video is useful to me.. and I'm asking daily bro about when you will tell about all of your equipment... Please do a video bro
Sidhu Superman bro.... C’mon bro.
Hi Sean, are you still doing things this way. Im very curious, because I work with alot of artists and producers and I mainly have my stuff on my desktop but when i travel, I obviously use my laptop. I have a 2tb SSD and a 5TB HDD both exeternal, I use the HDD just to backup everything but i was wondering. what would be the most efficient way to work with external drives / cloud backups / local files etc. Is it good to mainly have everything on your external drive and work from that or just locally?
my laptop has 5400 rpm would using a external improve speed and performance on my hard drive or should I just upgrade my hard drive
how do i set my stuff up like how you was explaining it in this video do you have a video on this
Can you show how to do a complete machine backup
Hey! I saw on your website that you have a Apple MacBook Pro 14 inch 2021 (10 Core M1 Max CPU, 32 Core GPU, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD), are you doing your music in Ableton? If you are, have you encountered any CPU issues with this computer? I can't decide if I should go with a Mac studio m1 ultra or a Macbook pro m1 max.
So if I have like 50 Logic projects, once I export them to an SSD or a disc I can just delete them from my computer and insert the SSD or disc and open them from there?
I have a 2012 MacBook Pro , what ssd external drive / thunderbolt will work ?
Do u need a laptop to have an external drive? Or can just have it to store session files
How Do We Do That . Move our Music program files to to our portable hard drive. And make it work when we open files in the drive. We try it with one files . It open up a different music program
Hi, i just bought a samsung T7 SSD and Kontakt keeps crashing, i hear the disconnect tone and sounds like the SSD is disconnecting mid session causing kontakt then cubase to crash. it's killin me, no idea where it went wrong.
soo... if you have tracks saved to your external- lets say like 16 complete 5 minute tracks as full quality wavs saved to your externals (lets say 7200rpm 2.0). When you have your daw and plug ins on the internal main SSD. Is the daw reading those files off the external? How do you go about loading tracks and samples that you are currently using in a current project onto the main SSD that the DAW sits on? Or do you not do this? Seems like that'd be a big source of slow--- maybe DAWS automatically load all samples to the same hard drive?
would installing a virtual instrument on an external ssd work nowadays without it taking forever to load?
Great video Sean, thank you! Do you have any advice on how to keep your imac / logic working well when you have a lot of plugins instslled. Or when you have demoed a lot, but not necessarily bought all of them? For example debris files left in the computer etc. Thank you.
I would recommend removing any plugins you don't use!
Hey Sean
Thank you for this video, do you recommend having two harddrives on my laptop one ssd to run the DAW and another normal drive to store plugins and sessions?
that's what I do :) 👍
How to move my sessions from PC to hard drive without destroying them. can i copy and past it?
Hi Sean, I would like to have this setup for my pc/ssd, but i'm not sure that it would work well: The Daw on my pc and the rest of the stuff like VST's, plugins, progects all on the ssd. I would appreciate your response, thx
Hey Sean, not to sure about the cloning feature of hard drives but instead I had this idea for my hard drive set up. My iMac SSD has the DAW installed on it and I have an external SSD drive that contains the Samples, Vst's, project files etc and everything is also backed up to a external HDD as a "just in case" thing.
that'll work 👍
Just ordered a Samsung SSD & LaCie portable drives via an online store here in Oz. Been using an ole Seagate drive for backups for awhile but it's quite slow and can't run my song projects off that. I've noticed HS5 monitors you got there, been using those for years, they're clean & clinical.What IMac is that? I've bought a mint condition 2011 Imac last year for the price of a portable hard drive and it's superb for recording.
What should I install on my external hardrive
Thanks bro soon check you an how to use it the right way
that's all and well but how do you physically connect all these external drives ?
Great video my Brother. Quick question, hopefully you can answer. So I have been using the HD in my computer for pro tools about 15 years haha. I am now taking the step towards running an external. I know you run a time machine of the computer itself , protecting your software etc. My main concern ... what if the external I’m using specific for pro tools crashes , ultimately ruining my life , leaving me indebted to clients who’ve been recording an entire album at my studio. So, how would I backup that audio external drive as well ? Thanks In advance!!
redundant backups :) I run 2 external session drives that are identical ruclips.net/video/FgExZrdiVQc/видео.html
I use ssd 256gb my daw and plugins. I need backup... One external 7200rpm or one external 3.0??? I need help
Are you able to preview samples with an external hard drive?
Hey Sean, Thanks so much for the video! Super helpful. Do you have a video explaining how to make one external HD to "clone" the other external HD? This would be so helpful
I don't and haven't found a "seamless" way of doing it. My drives / session folders are organized pretty well, so I just copy them over manually at the end of the day
@@SeanDivineit won’t let me move my files lol I get a reading error
Like your videos I see you have logic, could you explain the categories of save, save as, save a copy as. Where it going to internal and external hard drive . Thank you ,
Hi Sean, really enjoyed this video, very informative. I had a question, I'm planning on buying a new iMac with a smaller internal SSD. I want to have my project audio files, music library (mp3s), and some photos and documents on a large external. Would it be ok to have all these on one external drive, or should I get two externals and separate the project audio files from the mp3s, photos, etc.? Thanks for reading.
Rob Bowman hi Rob, in that case 1 large external should be just fine! The main reason for the 2 externals here is just for redundancy :)
Move sound libraries to an external drive it’s just for saving computer drive space or it have something with computer/DAW performance? Assuming that I have an internal 1TB SSD and I’m ok with 100, 200gb sound libraries. It’ll be better to move all these files to an external ssd ?
Both. It frees up your internal drive to focus on running your software.
Nice!
What if you bought a new Mac Studio with 1TB internal drive and stupidly realized you don’t have enough space for all your old projects and future ones? I have external drives but need to know how to run my projects with limited space.
Only way to open a pro tools session is if I save to desk top. Was doing that, dragged sessions into external folder and now I cant record. Shit is driving me nuts. Can someone give me a pointer
Great video, subscribed! Any particular brands you would recommend for audio engineers or any brand SSD is just fine? Thanks
I've had good experiences with g drive!
I have to do this asap!
can you save plugins on your external hard drive?
Can you run Vsts on the actual external hard Drive?
Thank you
hi Sean. ..my mac storage is almost full,so should I go for ssd, where I save my logic projects n run from ssd???actually I used external hhd n save n run my projects from that external hhd, n recently i lost all my data, these days em trying to recover my data..the expert told me drive's media is not working...thats why 1 tb hhd shows 0byte. .please suggest me, is ssd a good choice for save n run logic projects...
I use a sata external for sessions but an SSD would be even better in terms of speed and performance!
bro thnx for the suggestion
Hey Sean, do you suggest running your DAW out of an external hard drive and simply plugging it into your computer to access the software/sounds, projects etc.? I'm running Logic X and Abelton out of a 2019 macbook pro but im scared that its gonna start to get slow/take up to much space
The actual DAW must be on your OS drive (internal) but you can store all of the sounds, samples, sessions, etc. on an external which I highly recommend
@@SeanDivine how many gb would omnisphere be?? Im asking because im trying to download it and its telling me i need 59 gb of space. Someone was saying the actual vst doent take that much space itself so you can download it to the internal but i dont understand.
thanks very helpful
Glad it helped
I maintain a drive for projects audio sample library backup, one usb for VST’s to not put them VST’s somewhere lost within program files, and all I want is the option to install ableton on external drives or a usb C drive for complete reliability
Hey Sean, where/which hard drives hold the midi data. Project files drive..... Picture/Video drive........Sample Content drive.......Main o/s vst/dll drive? Just trying to picture where it all goes...... thanks if you have the time to respond to this comment bro!
Great video! I like to save my music libraries, drum samples in one external and then my music projects, audio recordings in another. this way when I am recording a session, im not pulling music library samples, recorded audio and recording new audio all from one drive. Instead im pulling the music library samples from one drive and recorded audio from another.
Interesting! 🤔👍
Who knows if it actually makes a difference or not lol. Just a system I follow haha
how do you set up a clone drive? i recently had an external go down on me thats in the works of being fixed.. haha.. so you can imagine how painful that is. had the idea of getting an extra external but didnt like the idea of having back it up every single time lol
unfortunately I haven't found an easy solution for cloning external drives automatically. I usually backup my session files and others manually at the end of the day. that's why it's very important to keep a simple folder structure and organize your drives to make it easier to keep up with.