many that knew Hemingway didn't like his personality at all nevertheless he was a great author and in face of a mortal danger I believe he faced it as a brave man
Hemingway was betrayed by the two women he loved most in his early years, terrorized by his viscous, toxic, cruel mother in his formative years. Survived two plane crashes, a terrible auto accident & numerous concussions. All his demons came from his beast of a mother, who happily drove her devoted husband to suicide without a care in the world. He suffered from PTSD from three different wars...it was a miracle he could pen a paragraph, let alone become the greatest, most influential writer of the 20th century. None of these people trying to bring him down, could have survived 1% of the trauma & turmoil he did in his lifetime!!!
@@kevinreily2529 That's quite a damning critique of his mother. I read that she was quite demanding of her son, but she also encouraged him in the arts. Hemingway's demons may very well have been genetic, who can say? His father killed himself with a shotgun in the 1920's, as did Ernest in 1961. Was your description of her corroborated by others?
What? Hemingway didn't swing on him or "check" him? He got into a swing match with Orson Welles and "checked" Budd Schulberg pretty hard. Schulberg may have been too small for Papa to get away with it, although Papa sent the word that Schulberg has passed the check down. Hemingway was a little mental. He was the self-appointed alpha male of the age, maybe the successor to Theodore Roosevelt. In in our time, the concept took a new turn, with type like Hunter Thompson and William Cooper coming to the forefront.
Karnow suggests, or maybe even insinuates, that Hemingway telling him that he gave the Nobel Prize to the mayor of Havana was bullshit. Hemingway did in fact place the Nobel medallion in the custody of the catholic church of Cuba, so that is not far off the mark as far as him giving the medal to the mayor since the actual chain of custody perhaps becomes a technicality at some point. Also, Hemingway started as a reporter with the Kansas City Star; only later was he engaged with the Toronto Star. Granted, Karnow's age and memory could be a factor in this interview. It’s a fascinating piece, nonetheless.
"He babbled on for awhile..." Well, we know how little respect Karnow had for arguably the greatest American writer of the 20th century... This guy must have an ego on him which is monumental...
Journalists stand in line to briefly meet the jerk, and then suppose they are men, whilst eschewing nuance as if it were a racial slur. Not a fan of Hemmingway's novels, but I can only assume he was frustrated by the phalanxes of milquetoasts.
Elitist dick heads complaining about proletariat dick heads, emptying Webster's Dictionary all over the place, and impressing us all, in the end, The Old Man and the Sea wins
No doubt that EH could be a supreme knucklehead. However, if that's your opinion of Hemingway's writing and you believe that ALL of his books were bad, I recommend that you read either A Farewell to Arms, or The Sun Also Rises, or Death in the Afternoon, or one of EH"s collections of short stories -- preferably with a more open mind than you appear to demonstrate in the comment above. I also saw the interview with Andy Rooney, and it's obvious to me that AR could be as big a jerk as EH.
@@rogerforsberg3910 His editor, Maxwell Perkins didn't think much of "Across the River and Into the Trees," saying, "Hemingway is through." E.B. White called it, "Across the Street and Into the Grill." Myself, I think his short stories are better than his novels. "Big Two Hearted River" is one of my favourite stories by anybody. "The Killers" is a great story and made a superb movie, too. It wasn't just Andy Rooney that didn't think much of him. Henry Fonda said in an interview in Playboy (as I recall) how he met him in Spain and said he was pathetic, a washed up drunk surrounded by ass-kissers. Howard Hawks met him and said he could make a hit movie out of his worst book, referring to "To Have and Have Not." He sure did, didn't he? But, "The Breaking Point" with John Garfield is closer to the story and I always thought Garfield was a perfect Hemingway hero.
“You wanna win the medals, but you don’t wanna wear the medals”. Love it!
That was pretty fucking cool
Why do you love that dickhead line from that guy?
Most VCs want neither.
Badass reply. So yes.
great video. thanks for putting it up!
great stuff - thank you
The end is the best part
Great vid!
many that knew Hemingway didn't like his personality at all nevertheless he was a great author and in face of a mortal danger I believe he faced it as a brave man
@LAFOLLETTER that is true but at the end he was a sick man
@@Ferda1964 Yeah, WWI PTSD, nine concussions, two airplane crashes, and electro-shock therapy will do that to you.
Andy Rooney didn’t even think he was a good writer.
Hemingway was betrayed by the two women he loved most in his early years, terrorized by his viscous, toxic, cruel mother in his formative years. Survived two plane crashes, a terrible auto accident & numerous concussions.
All his demons came from his beast of a mother, who happily drove her devoted husband to suicide without a care in the world. He suffered from PTSD from three different wars...it was a miracle he could pen a paragraph, let alone become the greatest, most influential writer of the 20th century.
None of these people trying to bring him down, could have survived 1% of the trauma & turmoil he did in his lifetime!!!
@@kevinreily2529 That's quite a damning critique of his mother. I read that she was quite demanding of her son, but she also encouraged him in the arts. Hemingway's demons may very well have been genetic, who can say? His father killed himself with a shotgun in the 1920's, as did Ernest in 1961. Was your description of her corroborated by others?
Karnow has a reputation of his own as a serious author of History.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Karnow
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You got that right. One of the best on telling the story of the Vietnam War.
He won the Nobel ! Period ! (Hemingway) RIP
so what
What? Hemingway didn't swing on him or "check" him? He got into a swing match with Orson Welles and "checked" Budd Schulberg pretty hard. Schulberg may have been too small for Papa to get away with it, although Papa sent the word that Schulberg has passed the check down. Hemingway was a little mental. He was the self-appointed alpha male of the age, maybe the successor to Theodore Roosevelt. In in our time, the concept took a new turn, with type like Hunter Thompson and William Cooper coming to the forefront.
Excellent
What the hell was that at the end there? Interesting story though.
i think he was waiting for the interviewer's next question. not unlike you waiting lo these 10 long years for your modest answer.
@@jameshudson169 Boooom
Hemingway had someone to drink with for that day.
1:29 i think his first newspaper was in kansas city. (i don't get no internet here or i'd check.)
Yes, the KC Star.
@@steveconn presumably the kc RED star.
'Toronto Star'
@@tomryan914 Kipling wrote for the Northern Star.
Karnow suggests, or maybe even insinuates, that Hemingway telling him that he gave the Nobel Prize to the mayor of Havana was bullshit. Hemingway did in fact place the Nobel medallion in the custody of the catholic church of Cuba, so that is not far off the mark as far as him giving the medal to the mayor since the actual chain of custody perhaps becomes a technicality at some point. Also, Hemingway started as a reporter with the Kansas City Star; only later was he engaged with the Toronto Star. Granted, Karnow's age and memory could be a factor in this interview. It’s a fascinating piece, nonetheless.
YAWN!
Hemingway had great talent and may have been a boastful buffoon.
ya think?
Seems like the core of this story is that Hemingway liked to bend an elbow. So what?
I just wonder about the name papa. Esplain id tue meeee..paleeeeaaasseee..... I want to love Hemingway but Andy Rooney told me not to.
No wonder H. wrote mainly in the a.m.; by noon the booze flowed........................!!!
Maybe study the reason a little deeper.
"He babbled on for awhile..." Well, we know how little respect Karnow had for arguably the greatest American writer of the 20th century... This guy must have an ego on him which is monumental...
You must not know much about his coverage of the Vietnam War. One of the best.
Journalists stand in line to briefly meet the jerk, and then suppose they are men, whilst eschewing nuance as if it were a racial slur. Not a fan of Hemmingway's novels, but I can only assume he was frustrated by the phalanxes of milquetoasts.
Elitist dick heads complaining about proletariat dick heads, emptying Webster's Dictionary all over the place, and impressing us all, in the end, The Old Man and the Sea wins
Andy Rooney said Hemingway was a jerk and wrote a lot of bad books and I think Andy probably had a point.
Andy Rooney seemed jealous of Hemingway (i think), but who wouldn't be if they were writers as well?
Either way I’m glad I was around to witness these characters....ya gotta love life!
Rooney was jealous
No doubt that EH could be a supreme knucklehead. However, if that's your opinion of Hemingway's writing and you believe that ALL of his books were bad, I recommend that you read either A Farewell to Arms, or The Sun Also Rises, or Death in the Afternoon, or one of EH"s collections of short stories -- preferably with a more open mind than you appear to demonstrate in the comment above. I also saw the interview with Andy Rooney, and it's obvious to me that AR could be as big a jerk as EH.
@@rogerforsberg3910 His editor, Maxwell Perkins didn't think much of "Across the River and Into the Trees," saying, "Hemingway is through." E.B. White called it, "Across the Street and Into the Grill." Myself, I think his short stories are better than his novels. "Big Two Hearted River" is one of my favourite stories by anybody. "The Killers" is a great story and made a superb movie, too.
It wasn't just Andy Rooney that didn't think much of him. Henry Fonda said in an interview in Playboy (as I recall) how he met him in Spain and said he was pathetic, a washed up drunk surrounded by ass-kissers.
Howard Hawks met him and said he could make a hit movie out of his worst book, referring to "To Have and Have Not." He sure did, didn't he? But, "The Breaking Point" with John Garfield is closer to the story and I always thought Garfield was a perfect Hemingway hero.
Reviewbrahs Granddad.
"A bit of a bullshitter." Understatment