How a Spy Thinks #88 [Unseen Locations]
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024
- G'day all MrPaladin here.
Branching off from the idea's i have expressed in the "number crunching" videos where I give an estimate of a percent that I expect to be noticed if I were to do something at certain locations, I talked about how there are many spots on a map (some in the middle of combat) where you can uncloak and go unnoticed by all but the most observant (about 1 in 20 or 5%)
I start the video showing the concept (breifly) before showing some actual flow. If I'm decloaking and I'm not in one of those hard to see locations I make sure that my back is clear or I run the risk of death!
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I've come to the conclusion every TF2 player is simply a T-Rex.
As long as you don't move, no one notices you.
Ever seen the awareness test? Understanding how that works can explain why spies go unnoticed.
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@@MrPaladin It's the reason bombing soldiers can get away with so much as well.
May as well take the opportunity to say that I love how your videos are so... multipurpose. You don't just talk about general spy tips, but you focus on general game concepts and teamwork values. I've always enjoyed that.
Interesting conclusion, Cait. Gave me a chuckle.
Lies
That conclusion makes a double edged sword
Reminder: Enemies don't tend to look up either. So those times I decloak on the bridge when I saw noone else from spawn was a viable option to being behind an object.
Be careful of spawn wallhack tho.
love u man
Please stay w tf2 I've been watching you for 5-6 years and you helped me become a very good spy main
No matter where you hide, you can't escape the aimbot reflects.
I had a spy that tried to jump on me 5 times from same spot, he eventually get tired and stopped and I used his strategy next game when teams switched.
Hello Mr paladin, the nicest spy main, I have something might work, while I'm disguised as enemy spy and accidentally encountered a group of enemies and I look away and walk in their same direction like a normal enemy team even my acts are so suspicious I just yell out "spy" and lucky for me, the enemy team just ignores me and the enemy pyro didn't spy check me, so maybe this is a good thing to not be suspicious to enemy team, so if you read this Mr paladin I'll feel good about it (sorry if this comment is too long)
I've spotted so many Spies because of the legal wallhacks
I'd be lying if I said I felt bad about catching them tho...
I'm surprised valve still allows it after a teleport!
The one time I felt bad about catching a spy, was a time when I was Pybroing on 2Fort, and the Spy I caught was disguised as me, and to my knowldege I'm one of if not the only Pyro who wears a full spacesuit set up for cosmetics,
I felt bad since they were trying to pass it off as they were me just going about my business and not even trying to get the Engie's Sentry nest just trying to get to where our Sniper was, they might have placed a sapper, but if they did I didn't notice it.
Its just so suspicious to see a scout sitting in a corner
Hey MrPaladin,
I just wanted to thank you for sticking with this community.
Even though TF2 isn't the most flashy, or famous game out there, you still are one of the creators who have stuck it out.
I don't know if you realize how much we appreciate that.
After all the people who have left this community you are still one of the best.
And the variety content? That's still as great! Just an occasional TF2 video here and there always makes me happy.
Because it shows that you still care.
-Sincerely , a fellow TF2 fan.
You'll like my planned schedule for the channel (after a family outing next month) watch for mentions on my social media and on the channel community page
14:40
THAT’S the TF2 I know and love
hi siN
You know the sting of random crits; now behold deterministic chaos.
The ultimate unseen location: When senpai doesn't want to notice you.
RUclips recommendations actually worked this time
Random crit of youtube vids
@@MrPaladin 100% accurate
Great video!!
Mr Paladin: alright kids, go here, no one ever looks here.
Every TF2 player now: *Imma bout to end this mans whole career.*
We need a secret spy society. Where we talk in code and hand gestures that involve 3 arms
@Darth Sidious He is, but he lives in the US from what I remember.
reminds of a moment where I was playing on koth viaduct, the building are built on a slope. And lazypurple did a video about that kind of spot and how people tend to not look there if you were crouch(freaking ninjas used this when trying to escape pursuers lol), and i got busted because someone else watched that video in particular
Paladin: "this is a dynamite spot."
Is literally standing behind dynamites, that crack me up 🤣
Love your videos MR.paladin
Last time I was this early the round hadn't even started yet
If you want good hiding spots for when you get caught, DON’T USE CORNERS! Good players know that corners are decent hiding spots and will check them first. This has saved my life as a cloak and dagger spy because it takes a 200 IQ gamer to figure out where I am
I definitely know the pain of dying to a reflected rocket that wasn't intended for you. When moments like that happen, I can't help but laugh it off because of how random it was.
That death by random reflect tho. Many that was painful to watch. That must have felt almost as bad as dying to a random crit.
My absolute favorite place in the game is the barn next to BLU's spawn on Mountainlab. You can sit there undisguised and invisible all day and get drop stab after drop stab, not to mention being able to revolver down teleporters, as well as multiple escape routes. More than once I've had half the other team derping around the area looking for me and not capping the point.
With health and ammo on either side to escape to also!
1:24 That scout’s a homie.
MrPaladin: *releases new H.A.S.T. video*
Me: COWABUNGA IT IS
Just realised how close it is to H.A.T.S.
I love these. I've been watching for years
Thanks for the loyalty? Is that a word?
@@MrPaladin what's a word?
(mentally cateloguing all the spots you have show for further investigation in the future)...
In all seriousness, I'll have to analyse something similar to this in terms of Pyro plays.
Tip for pyros: be random. Go alternate routes. Doubleback. Check your back often at random times.
At the very least this spooks most spies from making a play when you are near
@@MrPaladin Yea, just like in the video the pyro was swirling 360 degrees near his teammates, even MrPaladin was shook haha
6:07 "This is a dynamite spot right here." Truer words have never been spoken.
wooo, new mr paladin vid!
6:06 "This is a dynamite spot right here."
14:30 Oh God, you poor Frenchman. 😭
Thats enough TF2 for today
@@MrPaladin Lmao that's the night I had last night. 4 games and I was like "Welp, time to do something else before I hurt someone."
Explanation videos are one of my favourite videos to watch on youtube. Even though I already know about some of this information it is still nice to see a different angle on the subject.
There’s also this one great spot on Gorge right by the blu spawn. It’s a stack of boxes, but has a thin hole which you can sneak through. No one ever looks there.
Barnblitz has a room where you can see enemies head out from spawn thru a crack. You can check what is behind them before dropping down as they seek to turn a corner ignoring you.
I should do a video on it
That's what spies are for, to stalk your enemies and make them paranoid 👀
Mr. Paladin, I would like to thank you because due to your spy guides (like the number crunching one), I learned how to play spy. So thank you. I enjoy this class a lot.
Glad I was able to help ya!
I've been watch you for years....doing a great job and playing a great game
Glad to see that an amazing guy like you keeps up to date. Great job keeping the spirit of tf2 alive
To misquote the TF2 announcer: congratulations! You've been awarded additional subscriber!
Always love seeing your vids or even just listening. Very relaxing voice.
I gotta love that you stick to your way of playing spy, instead of running around with the kunai and Ringer like most people do. keep it up!
Dear Mr.Paladin I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS they are really good I and everyone want you to keep going on like this and hit those 500k subscribers. WE ALL LOVE YOU!!!! Thank you for reading this if you did.
This is all we wanted. A TF2 vid now and then. Once again Mr. P, proving you can make quality variety content and still not forget where you came from
6:05 “this is a DYNAMITE spot right here”
... I see what you did there
Wow this video is so chill and nice
The "How a Spy thinks" series actually made me a better spy main thanks Mr.P
It's just like field of view in stealth games If you perform actions in someone's field of view they will see you if your now in the field of view and just outside there is a chance they can see you but not likely.
RIP from that air blast from the pyro if only it was a little closer to the pipe
i like paladin a lot more than other tf2 youtubers, he doesn't brag or flaunt his kills, and is overall pretty respectful of the people he's getting kills on.
a true gentlemann
"It's not about the trickstabs" is something I took a long time to realize, haha. It really is one of the main reasons I would play poorly as spy.
watching this series can make good even without trickstabs and is very cool
For that wall hack addition... Valve really should add a special weapon that allows for better hiding abilities.
Like, a pistol that has two abilities:
1. The ability to shoot projectile of disguised class, but does the damage of a normal revolver and a very small clip. *Requires disguise to do any damage, and doesn't drop disguise*
2. Immunity to wall spawn hack
“Oh man I can’t wait to see awesome kickass spy gameplay from the legend himself”
Mr Paladin: “today we are going to sit in an obscure corner of the map and do nothing”
One of my favorite things is just becoming a spy and sitting in my chair nearby the enemy spawn sipping my drink and reading my book.
Stumbled back after 2 years of not watching your channel. Nice to see TF2 vids again. Sadly AUS has no servers filled during a Saturday night :(
You are the Bob Ross of tf2
nice to see u back sir
I am re installing tf2 just to play as spy and lessing to you like I use to
Funny, I just watched your Number Crunching video yesterday as well. I'd like to see another map example of something like that, as well.
I did a KOTH version of number crunching. If you cant find the link to that let me know and I will paste it when I'm back at my computer
@@MrPaladin Indeed you have... I managed to find with with a bit of observation and some good aim. Just like shooting a Razorback Sniper!
I've figured out why i like Mr Paladin videos, even though I don't play tf2 anymore.
It's because you're like the Bob Ross of tf2.
Always more like this, you're the man!
Hopping on the bridge with a scout disguise is so enormous brain
Mr. Paladin : The Bob Ross of Spy mains !
Long Life MrPaladins (and spy)
Very happy you made this
On the flip side, I noticed that people can and will focus you if you are seen as a spy, especially if you've backstabbed them several times, so I sometimes lead them on a wild goose chase, it's time they aren't focused on the main objective of the map, especially if you keep leading them on with a few revolver shots.
PS: A lot of other spies I see really try to go for those 'Cool Trickstabs', the trick to trickstabs is that you need to hide the fact you doing a trickstab, otherwise you just look foolish.
and once again, the spy jesus is back at it again, genuis
I think Harvest spawns were actually designed for spawncamping spies.
And even if they weren't, they are still what I learned from that you can easily backstab enemies leaving spawn (just don't put on enemy disguise). Even better - enemies taking teleporter just outside the spawn.
This is the only spy I can respect as a heavy main
That end basically describes my entire experience as spy. I'm insanely unlucky. I stabbed a soldier twice and did no damage, ate a crit rocket while turning the corner of a back alley hallway from some random soldier up there while my entire team was at the payload and under full cloak, got sniped under full cloak from across the entire map, and I can literally stand on the absolute very edges of some maps and can almost guarantee you, if a player comes near me, they automatically veer off in my direction to bump me. Oh. And to all scouts out there. If you see your spy, please don't run straight towards him while you're fighting a soldier or pyro. Despite all this bad luck though, still haven't given up on the class. It's fun and feels rewarding when you do get work done.
I honestly really like disguising as a demo. They never expect it, especially if you spam battlecry, move up, and thank medics and engies.
I know Valve thinks thats suppose to help spies blend in, but a lot of times the wall hacks give spies away. You see the outline of a friendly that is not where they should be, its a dead give away.
What I believe their mentality is that if a player leaves spawn and sees a teammate that does not have this outline will realize they are a spy, so they put an outline on disguised spies to try and prevent this. The simple solution however is to simply remove the outlines. We don't need outlines to tell us who is a friendly and who is not. Thats why team colors exist.
"This is a dynamite spot right here."
I see what you did there.
Okay, the real question is: What is the spy watching on the TV in your intro
A random tf2 clip
Ah okay, the scout really freaked me out
1:15 a little father-son bonding moment.
I would always look up to this person the good spy main
Its been a while i never visit this channel , good have the old Mr.P back not the salty and sarcasm one.
So the thing I like about spawn wall hacks is that they kind of force you, as the spy, to be more realistic. As a spy, you wouldn't just walk around looking as ray all the time and if you're lazy like that, you get put down. Now they force you to go undisguised, to observe your situation, and then disguise before striking, instead of just running around as scout, no problem, and uncloaking whenever you feel like doing so.
Now do the dead ringer ;)
@@MrPaladin Now that one I really like the idea behind as a concept, cause I could TOTALLY see someone doing that IRL (Not in the way spy does but still faking a death) but I get a feeling that the DR was a game call that they're afraid to recall. lol
Mr. Paladin bumps someone: Enemies just look around and he gets away
I bump someone: The whole enemy team, God, Todd Howard and Gaben shoot the hell out of me
I know I need to improve as a spy, but things like this one really makes me smile lmao
Naw you sometimes die to it. Not seen (because it was on another map) a pyro I did not bump still saw me blink when I "touched" them and they managed to turn and chase me down for the kill. The lag compensation on their screen calculated a bump!!!
@@MrPaladin Yeah, sometimes an enemy really pops out of nowhere and you have no way of getting away, or lags screws a trickstab. It's unfortunate, but it happens heh
Not even practice or skill can overcome plain bad luck sometimes :c
Yep. Like the end of this video. It happens
I definitely feel like Pyros using reflect scripts are becoming more and more common...
6:07 This place is the bomb!
that reflect waskinda epic
Pulled a sick trickstab on a biscuit
“This is a dynamite spot right here” lol 😂
Another good video you haven't lost your touch one bit paladin.
The most lucky reflect shot from a pyro 14:35
I loved that beginning
Due to how bad I am at spy I’m sure I will not even be able to master the art of standing still
Mr Paladin says he dislikes spawn wall hacks, but when they didn’t exist he was wanting something like them, mainly to prevent easy spawn camping I think.
Nope, I said spawn exits must not be bottlenecks. Spawns need multiple exits, not a single door.
Fix the problem with map design not cheats.
MrPaladin That’s what I said.
I love seeing your video's it gives us tips of how to do spy stuff thank you and can't wait for more
Congrats u just gave every pyro main our location
The starting skit was the most ridiculous thing you could have done and gotten away with, ever. Where do you find such unaware players?
Also: what normal people see: A Ghastly Gibus
What Mr Paladin, Swipez and Stabby see: Oh, Healthpack Dude is here again!
What I see on Offense: Gotta go fast!
What I see on defense: Free disguise!
Hi Mr.P you backstabbed me at 3:50 thanks for making these videos i was wondering how i got stabbed their.
Im wondering why you wiggled at that corner. Did it lag? Or bumped an edge?
@@MrPaladin bumped was readjusting my seat not thinking about spys learned my lesson their.
Ahh gotcha. Thanks for remembering and letting me know!
@@MrPaladin Thank you for putting out these videos its because of you i know how to play as spy and have gotten so good at hunting them like the pyro i am.
1:00 the lucky spy mr paladin, in one minute
I'd trade the spawn glow for reverting the spy's speed back from 107% medic speed to normal, makes cl_interp abuse too easy. Instead, just make The Big Earner into the dedicated speed boost knife, with passive 107% speed buff. Playing medic, I know how many certain death situations I've avoided with a surf and a little extra running, being able to do that while invisible with 200hp is ridiculous.
The disguise kit should have been fixed five years ago too. Bugs like headless pyros and legless demomen take away the element of subterfuge and acting that should be inherent to the class. Many players can already smell a disguise when it functions properly, so the pub skill ceiling becomes baiting some poor sap into a height disadvantage, instead of gunning down weak unaware enemies. I would welcome a revolver with no crits that kept you disguised if you landed a headshot.
You know a true TF2 player when they see an enemy in the middle of no where or by spawn not doing anything, they dont kill them but they ether chat, or a 2+ player taunt. Because people who have been playing TF2 for years know that its like "who cares" lol. Im glad this game stayed relatively the same and didnt go the way CSGO did, even though a handful of people wished it did because of its popularity. TF2 stayed casual with the casual players and the pros could do there pro things as well, if you play CSGO your always expected to be good or no one likes you. Other then smack talking in game thats every game, but smack talking I will say is super funny on TF2 because of what dumb things can happen in the game. Custom servers on TF2 are probably the most amazing things in a game iv ever seen. I really need to play again, havent played in like 6 months. Never change TF2.
Mr. Paladin Is the new character on the One Punch man Series His character would be "One Stab Man".
Yay, frequent uploads!
Best spy in tf2
These hiding spots are also good spots for ninjaneer teleporters
Yay mepaladin is here
Hey Mr paladin, I know I'm late but this was uploaded on my birthday! :DDDDDD
In other words: professional hide and seek
14:41 was actually incredibly unlucky
what an epic gamer video
Just a quick question, why do you use a friendly disguise instead of no disguise? They both prevent you from being seen by spawning wall-hacks (right?)
an extra split second of confusion from the enemy, why tell them you are a spy behind their lines when they could be lead to think something else.
MrPaladin Yeah, after posting the comment I thought about it for a little bit and realised that made the most sense. Thanks for replying though
Never clicked a video so fast in my entire life
4:40 floating dispenser
14:13 That is a facestab and a half. Looked at it frame by frame.
He bacc!
Now like 14k people will looks on this locations, RIP
Mr. P is a great Spy because he's a smart Spy
it works if you game doesnt screw you over by making decloak sounds 10k times louder and matches you against god like players