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The Objective Top 10 Phones List
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- This week the gang discusses Apple's new groundbreaking yellow iPhone, Spotify's latest AI DJ, how TikTok is using paid content to help support creators, and we wrap it up with the best-sold phone models of 2022.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:31 New iPhone 14 color
03:51 TikTok paywalls content
13:19 Reviewing things we buy update
29:14 Trivia question 1
29:59 Indeed (Sponsored)
30:56 Spotify AI DJ
43:12 Microsoft AI video upscaling
48:56 Trivia question 2
50:14 Gigabyte (Sponsored)
52:43 Top-selling phones of 2022
01:08:45 Realme dynamic island clone
01:13:04 Trivia answers
01:16:55 Outro
Links:
Top Phone Models of 2022: bit.ly/3J4IS7U
Edge Super Resolution: bit.ly/3J3yD3C
Spotify AI DJ: bit.ly/3yr2MoB
TikTok Paid Content: bit.ly/3kU3xne
Realme Dynamic Island: bit.ly/realmid...
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Forever grateful that David is a permanent host now
Yah david
yee boiiii
I'm not a big fan but I appreciate he brings a different perspective as I do like to think about thinks from multiple lens
Didn’t he start with the ui thing
Agreed
David’s expression at 1:59 was too funny after Andrew said “I think it’s going to replace the sun”
😹😹😹 I caught that
Seriousness 😂😂
Even the teary eyes joke just before cracked me up. I just like how he delivered these as if they were nothing 😂
You took that bit on the yellow iPhone so far…and I love it.
24:49 Marques ... He's right, go to a furniture store. You can actually pick what you want that way. And if you're having trouble, you can actually rely on the sales people. I spent months looking for a couch, burned myself out, and stopped looking for a year. Then, I decided it was time. So I went to the furniture store I liked the best and explained it to the salesman and then said "Can you please show me just 3 couches, that are like [description], and around $XXXX." He showed me the 3 couches, I asked a couple questions. Made my choice. Took like 30 min, if that. And I'm super happy with the choice.
Haha I watched my aunt buy a couch like this recently. I couldn't stop asking her how she is not concerned that she didnt get the best option etc. She said, she found a couch that she likes and does what she needs it to do. Isn't concerned about getting the best possible option she could, just happy that she got an option she can live with.
@@girlgreenivy yup. Life's too precious to worry over minute details
Can't stress this enough but... pod episodes are getting better day by day. My fav podcast without a doubt
This podcast is now in my Friday ritual. I watch you guys while I finish work😂😂😂
Same😄
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@@April9iine riiiiight , of course
Yeah 😂
Why do you find that funny ??
this has been the funniest start of the podcast ever 🤣🤣
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Next year they better make a matte black iPhone, we may even get a full episode devoted to it lol
Who else likes when trivia is long? No need to make the segment shorter. I enjoyed the back-and-forth you guys had.
Totally with Andrew on that one. The "Patreon model" of unlocking member-only stuff works. But paying for on-demand videos on Tiktok? No way.
I can see David Imel making a video "How the Vikings Shaped the Yellow iPhone". (no seriously i love david's and marques's content. great work guys!)
The trivia section was really enjoyable with all the talk, theory craft of the answers, etc. Listening what was your logic and also getting off topic was really fun
(This applies to all the podcast)
52:43 In India, In smartphones, Apple's market share is 4% and Android is 95%.
Now do companies instead of Android lol.
Yeah those sales numbers are really skewered because they don't take into account the many upon many variants most of the foreign companies have. Not sure where Apple's global market shares stand now, but for years they've been losing market share every year.
Not suprrisins. Apple is expensive and India is a third world country.
@@Adam-vx6to aww.. third world countries have more options than yours.. proud to be from third world..
@@itsachyutkrishna Huh? More budget options of course. Because like I said, India a third world country and thus needs more budget options.
This is no hate, simply a fact.
Of course flagship phones arent going to be as popular in India because statiscally less people can afford them.
Simply stating facts, not hating India.
Thanks for another great podcast guys. It's definitely become part of my Friday's evening routine lol.
I'd love to hear more bout some obscure tech related topics, i.e. David's 7 keys of internet. Sure you wouldn't be doing it each week, but be nice as sort of mohly theme thing, or something.
Cheers
Petr
this is one of the few podcasts that i watch vs listen to and it's worth it every time. love the content and the production. keep up the excellent work.
India is buying crazy amount of iPhones recently, and the main reason is the discount. iPhone has become way cheaper in India now as production started here and amazon is selling last year's model for 60% during sale.
1:00:00 yea this is true I’m a 16 year old high school junior and EVERYONE I mean EVERY kid in my high school has an iPhone. I previously lived in Nigeria (an African country) and coming to the US was an eye opener it’s INSANE. I mean you could walk to any kid and you’d see them with AirPods in their ears and some iPhone in their hands. I was FORCED to make sure I got an iPhone because of iMessage groups your basically screwed if your a US teenager without an iPhone. It’s so comical every single kid has white plastic in their ears and an apple in their hands .
It's sad because the iOS user experience is lacking in many ways. iOS is great for the elderly or kids, but is unbearable for any power user.
Okay… the first topic was downright hilarious. It took a split second to realize the blatant sarcasm to it all 😂😂😂🤪
It's funny haha. What's even funnier is how Apple bois actually talk like this but they're not sarcastic
@@jobz9150 ain’t that the truth. I mean my brother and I highlighted in our podcast and even as avid iPhone users we were just like - it’s another color. But… it’s not like the highlight news. 😂 glad these guys poked some fun at it! 👌👍
Andrew is so right on the TikTok thing.
I support people on patron and I have never really thought of it as a purchase in the traditional sense.
I get some extra perks and get to support these creators, which feels nice.
I wouldn't buy a video from the same creators and it would probably feel weird to think "was that video worth 5 bucks?". It just feels removed, it feels wrong, I hate it...
I was depressed and snowed in from this storm...you guys don't know how much I appreciate your podcast.
I wonder how many iPhone 11's are selling, but on the used market. As far as I know, it is massive as well, as even older iPhones are generally great and give exceptional experience.
This is hands-down one of the best episodes ever. couldn't stop laughing at the gym clothes bit 😆
1:04:30 “Shut up grandpa, time to get in your *Apple bed* ” 🤣🤣💀
Thank you all for the podcast,
right now this is the only podcast that I'm listening to (cause I enjoy it and didn't found any other that feels as good as this)
Just wanted to share this with you
What a way to start the podcast, hilarious
This show feels like a great combination of half Hello Internet and half contemporaneous tech review.
56:10 Pretty sure they have just taken US and Europe in this survey, just like every other western survey. If Asia , heck just India and China were accounted for properly, things would've been different.
Some people in the comments swear Iphones are selling very well in India, which I still question it. I definitely don't think that they sell that well overall in China and the rest of the world. I think it's mostly US based because Apple's overall market share isn't high enough to justify the positions worldwide, and cert couldn't tell the true story if the many variants foreign companies have were totally counted.
Whoever said they didn’t like the ranting during trivia was totally wrong! The ranting is my fav part!
IMO the Spotify DJ is the best implementation of AI into a platform yet
I actually love to see the "most successful product video. Maybe not to crown a winner but the corolla made me realise there are a number of really successful products
The iphone sells for massive discounts in India during the festival season around august September October. I got my iphone 13 for less than 499$ converted during that time. When you go out nowadays in metro cities of India, you will find 4/10 people owning an iphone which is a big jump from even 2 years back when it was around 1-2/10. The discounts apple pushes in India is making the Indian consumer choose it over the chinese brands. Also, In the Indian society apple phones are a status symbol of how well you are doing in life.
True
That’s interesting. What it says is that if the iPhone was cheaper over there, a lot more people would prefer it over Android. When I say a lot more, I mean a lot more than originally thought as I was understood that most people over there preferred Android.
So the truth is , many indians werent buying androids because they liked them, but they couldn’t afford an iPhone?? Interesting when you look at it like that
43:03 I LAUGHED SO HARD I ALMOST SPILT WATER ON MY TABLE
On the TikTok paywall subject -I’m a short form cooking creator and I have no idea why people would pay for recipes behind a paywall when there is so much free stuff out there. But, I know a few creators who sell either individual recipes or a bundle of them on their website from $3-$20 and while it’s generally a low conversion rate compared to views, they have made $4k+ in a month doing this. So my gut reaction was similar to Andrew’s but seeing this creators experience I would guess more people will pay for stuff than I would think. Sorry for the book
wait but I love David's mug LMAO
Apple has slowly started offering more and more discounts here in India in partnership with e-commerce stores and banks especially for their base 128 GB model for 12, 13, 14, etc and also iPads. This has been a big factor in a lot of people buying Apple products here in India.
David said 96.9 the eagle lol
I love that he always represents the bay and Cali in general in a very relatable way
I've been on the Spotify Android beta app for years, I have not seen this feature. I hadn't even heard of it until it was mentioned here.
Gotta love David’s inability to not yawn 😆
42:50 This! This is what I signed up for! Name 'n Shame hahaha
Love the crew chilling, chatting & connecting. The vibes are just on point!
Shmuniversity of shmothern shmalifornia 😂
Apple should experiment a yellow "Pro-color" for the 14 Pro
Jesus, Marques laughing while saying "the whole pants are backwards!" made my day lmao
I feel like there is an Argument to be made that Windows is the most successful product of all time.
You should really check out the podcast "The Anthropocene Reviewed" by John Green, it's my favorite. On the surface, he reviews random stuff on a 5-star scale, just like you did in your segment. The review topics range from Tetris to the concept of Love at first sight.
But really, the reviews are actually about his own personal experience with these things and they serve as a means for a memoir and philosophy
Have listened to every episode!
Cannot stop laughing at the close-up of Andrew saying “Fire Them!” 28:17
same
On the ecosystem lock-in at 1:00:00. I think what it comes down to in the apple case is that they build up a very high level of integration, within that ecosystem. And some of the following points were kind of mentioned but I'd like to summarise them again:
- The integration is not only showing on the surface with apple exclusive features and seamless interactions among apple devices
- The integration of the hardware in the perspective of systems integration and supply chain integration when designing and building the products. And also reusing parts over generations and between different products
- Building high and low-level software specifically for that hardware or their OSs
And to conclude, this position of apple was build over many many years with is mindset in place from the beginning. And in that position they always were able to charge premium prices and build upon that dominance while saving money at the process that is already feeding them well.
And just to mention, there are obviously other facts that make Apple a very successful company.
its wild to me that the table broke after over a year and so you werent able to do a return as it was outside of the "warranty" in the UK you can we have something where it doesnt matter if a product comes with a warranty of a year or 2, if a there is a reasonable expectation that a product should last for an extended period of time you are entitled to a refund/replacement.
I love being British for things like that
@@empressdoinalot its one of the VERY few things we have going for us at the moment😂😂
@@DirtyUncleOwen agreed. 🤣🤣🤣 everything else is to pot. But let's not be political right now. Loool
Nice comedy podcast! The tech commentary was nice too.
I think Andrew should start his own Channel and/or Podcast. David and Marques have their own channels, but I think a great idea would be for Andrew to start one! Maybe about Gaming? Idk, I know I would def check it out tho if he did.
probably keyboard asmr🤣
@@TRUEbASNER YES PLZ
Gaming. I'd follow.
@@Sammakesmov I think he's mentioned Twitch streaming before, but I've never heard of a RUclips channel
@@TRUEbASNER Yah
This spotify AI is actually pretty neat. There's a lot of times I don't know what to listen too and I can see this helping when I'm at work and just need that background noise. Thanks for chatting about this boys probably wouldn't have known without the discussion
Personally I think TikTok just needs to go away.
Why?
3:43 meanwhile my colorblind friend is having an existential crisis as he looks at both a pale purple and a pale yellow piece from a board game and swears they are the same color. 😂😮😢
Actually never thought I would watch a tech podcast but I have taking a liking to this one.
Am I the only one noticing the chaos getting more and more fun lately?
Got a question!! What does Qualcom stand for...? Like what's the expansion of Qualcom?
“I’ve never seen it with my eyes… …I’ve seen it with my ears now that you’ve described it.” 😂😂😂
Something interesting for the Spotify Ai DJ is that if for example you are in a road trip with a friend, you both can start a session and the DJ could make the whole thing for both users
If they messed up the tire internally enough when they mounted it that it's leaking it's a safety concern and who's to say that they didn't mess the others up nearly as badly. 4 stars is too generous!
Loving the show guys, all the way from South Africa 😎😉
43:32 David yawning again and realising he did it again 😂😂
that sanic mug is divine
The Apple fever is everywhere, hard to resist
I dont know why but I've been waiting the whole day for this video :(
Hi WVFRM cast members. Great pod as always. Apple's phone models being top sellers could be due to a multitude of reasons globally.
1. As mentioned by you guys, there is oversaturation of phone models by android phone manufacturers. Samsung has 8-10 phone models released per year, creating no solidarity in the numbers when purchased numbers being totaled up. The same can be said about other brands.
2. Android flagships really do suck since COVID started. Yes, they are "feature" rich. But when they can't nail easy basic features like battery life, durability, camera optimizations, its just not worth it to make an android phone purchase. An Iphone that's a year or two older, is still more well rounded than a cutting edge android flagship that does 1 good thing, but suck at the rest.
3. Skewed data. It's quite possible that the data above, only skews to the upper and lower(working) class. Upper class people have been linked in social studies to the purchase of Iphones, whereas lower (working) class would favor more lower range android phones. This data mentioned in the podcast only links purchase numbers to smartphone models. As mentioned by David, Android as a whole still dominates the smartphone market share. Upper class people purchase smartphone on a yearly basis because they have the money. Lower(working) class people purchase phones on a yearly basis because their lower range phone breaks within a year and most of their work requires the usage of the internet and a smartphone.
4. David talks about this, ECOSYSTEM. Apple creates an ecosystem that is an inescapable walled garden. People like to trap other people in this ecosystem.
5. Refer to number 2. Android really just suck now (I still use android btw). I have a Samsung A52s phone from 2021. The A53 from last year and A54 from this year is very disappointing spec wise, with a massive price bump to boot that just doesn't make the model worth it any longer.
If this happen to a popular midrange brand, you can imagine that other popular good value phones from the same and/or different smartphone brand have made really bad value phones within the past few years.
The worst culprit to this are the phones with Snapdragon 695 SOC. It's a weak/slow processor, but having it manufacturers can slap "5G" on the box and hope that it would be a strong selling point.
It's stupid and ludicrous that now in 2023 we are still using a snapdragon 600 series in our midrange phones.
In term of your point number 5, have you tried using a high-end android flagship like the S23 series? I have seen many vids on RUclips, especially PhoneBuff, testing them and their battery life is on-par with iPhone 14 Pro Max (14PM), durability test showed the glass cracked less compared to 14PM, photos are on-par or better than 14PM
The yellow iphone bit was just red letter media's the berd crew making fun of star wars fans 💀💀💀
Here's one for your review check segment. I once bought a jacket with elbow patches and I didn't realise until I was out wearing it that one of the elbow patches was on the wrong side of the sleeve. So one elbow patch was facing forward and one elbow patch was facing backwards. Not the best time to first notice the error lol -1 star for quality control and -1 star purely because I had to embrace it all night 😂 3/5 from me.
the trivia section is one of my favorites, there’s is not need to make it sorter, it was really funny
having recently learned about Fruitger Aero, i’d love to see y’all have a convo about tech design aesthetics throughout time! like im curious about the ways in which both the cultural context, and the technology of the era influences design choices. maybe David could do another investigation/report like he did w/ the 7 keys to the internet!
great episode as always, Studio Team 💜
Thank goodness you answered the pants question we all had LOL
That top 10 looks sketchy at best. In just the EU the SG A33 and A53 are in the top 4. The iPhone 13 is #5. The Pro/ProMax rank higher. I suspect this list might be US, not global.
It feels mostly like a US list masquerading as a global list. Market share versus units sold don't often tell the same story.
The eu alone doesn't influence the list
The world does
If one region is lacking some other country can make up for it
I miss the commentary during trivia 😔. I understand that some people want it shorter, but I love all the little rambles (and the not so little ones).
The fact that Apple is dominating the top charts shows that people prefer consistency and privacy over unnecessary over the top features and customisation.
Apple 13 pro max team..yaay
Not really. Outside of the US and UK, where I live, Android dominates because of the cheapness and variety of devices. I'm St Lucian and the best phones to get for people's dollars is a Samsung. Always will be.
May I ask, how do you know it's better at privacy than an Android where many OEM's provide hardware level of security?
Just because Apple claims it has good privacy doesn't actually mean it does lol.
Imo most people prefer iphones for status, at least here in Brazil, especially younger people.
@@alexdaraujo So you're saying Iphones are very popular in Brazil and that's what most people have there?
I love the sections where they all come together to see the amazon listing rating
Thank you. I needed rhis to get me out o work ❤ tysm tuys
I really enjoyed the sarcasm at the beginning of this.
There is a guy I follow on TikTok who basically already does this. He’s a scholar and he’ll talk about misconceptions/misinfo in his field and occasionally he’ll advertise online lectures that he does
43:12 Microsoft is trying everything to shake up Google Chrome's dominance.
I howled at all the coverage of the yellow iPhone. At first I'm like are y'all serious? Then I caught David's sarcasm.
David, make sure you pick adequate exercise clothes. Cheap clothes trap sweat and bacteria and fungi can grow. Though only women can suffer from yeast infections because of exercise leggins that don't have adequate ventilation, the same rule applies to men's exercise clothes. Be safe and do your research. Also, if you think about it, value is better described over time. If you get 5 cheap pieces of clothes that you have to throw out within the year - or less- vs one that can last you 3 or more, what is actual value? Value for your money and value for the environment. If you really don't care about clothes and prefer value, try thrifting. Get some great quality clothes at a lower price!
I bought an iPhone 13 after the release of the iPhone 14. Makes sense, considering how similar the 13 and 14 are.
And the iPhone 12 really.
Thank you as always. Smart and calm discussion. Better then some stand ups these days in terms of jokes =)
that yellow does look damn good tho
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can someone write down, what was the objective top 10 phones list?
Week #1 of petitioning for a longer Waveform podcast.
Idk if this means much, but when my mom bought me my first phone, she asked her coworkers--the younger ones, or those with kids, specifically teens--what kind of phone was popular with kids/younger generation and what would be a good choice and they said an iPhone. So that's what m mom bought and I have been stuck (happily and accustomed) in the Apple ecosystem ever since despite the fact that everyone in my family has Samsung. I am the oldest cousin on both sides of my family and all the kids under me who have phones have Apple. So you have this situation in my family where the entire family is split between older and younger generations and Samsung and Apple respectively. I got my first phone around 2015.
Call a local tile/countertop contractor. That’s marble on your table, they can re set that piece and polish it so it will feel like that never happened
Someone peed on the iPhone. I guess nexts years color will be brown. 😮
43:13 - talking about that upscaling.
We have some mobile processors, AFAIK last Snapdragon flagship one, as well as Exynos, are capable of RT.
Since they have some RT cores, this could be applicable to some mobile phones.
Let's say you're on mobile data and you would like to reduce data consumption, you reduce the video quality and turn on upscaling.
Would say that's a nice possibility.
David’s mug really caught me off guard 😂😂😂
You guys just always put me in the know about tech
LFG! Not sure when this became my favorite pod... But yup, that happened
I was surprised at how the gang were surprised at the iPhone's popularity on a global scale. I go to work and almost all of my coworkers flash around anything from the 12 to the 14ProMax. Although purchase power parity is significantly skewed when the U.S. and my region are taken into account, it doesn't stop folks getting their hands on the latest Apple tech.
Couldn't really blame them if the devices serve their purposes.
Props for using the Framework Chromebook!
This discussion on AI DJ makes me really miss old radio stations like KFOG
David yawns again at 55:03, and sees Marquese after that. 😂😂
great job bro
"TikTok"
"On the clock"
😂
VW Beetle, Jeep Wrangler, Ford 150, VW Golf, Ford Mustang, Chevy Corvette, Toyota Corolla - all very successful car models.
With the "ecosystem" talk:
I'm currently trying out the Galaxy Tab S8+ and the fact that I Have to download an app, made by Samsung at least, to make it interact with my phone with notifications, calls(?), etc. already makes me want to hold on to my iPad Air 4th, and just rejoin the Apple life in EVERY thing but a computer. All of it just Works Well Together and I loved that about Apple. Samsung, and even Google, has Got to get their respective ecosystems working better because I'm thinking now, I return this Tab S8+, I wait a year, pay off my S22+, and go right back to Apple, cause it all works seamlessly right out the box.
55:05 David yawning again😂
I am not even into tech that much but I like this for entertainment purposes
That is a biiig yawn by David at 55:01 xD followed by thr stare to see if anyone had noticed xD