New Thrustmaster T598 Wheelbase Testing - Revolutionary, or Just Regular?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @tillhennig3218
    @tillhennig3218 20 дней назад +25

    Everyone hates on this wheel base because it is too big or looks different to Fanatec and Moza. I dont care about that as long as it works - and it seems like Thrustmaster did an amazing job. I preordered it together with the Ferrari 488 GT3 wheel and cant wait to drive on it!
    Thanks for the review Mike!

    • @bernardoberner4
      @bernardoberner4 20 дней назад +4

      Completely agree

    • @TeKU78
      @TeKU78 19 дней назад +4

      I got one and it's brilliant. In terms of feeling this is the absolute best at this price point. And ps compatibility is the cherry on top. I tried the Moza R5, Fanatec CSL Elite also the CSL DD and the Logitech G Pro dd11 racing wheel. This thing feels a lot closer to the Logitech than all the others.

    • @jean-francoisrenaud8389
      @jean-francoisrenaud8389 19 дней назад +2

      Agree too. Wonder how many sim racers look at their base while driving🧐🤦‍♂️

    • @bertram-raven
      @bertram-raven 18 дней назад

      @@jean-francoisrenaud8389 I never look at it. However, I do feel it. I know when the wheel-base is not up to snuff. The axial thing seems like a good idea, but not at such low constant torque values. Remember, torque is not about the "weight" of the wheel or having a heavy feeling wheel. Higher torque is all about rapid movements (fast bump) feedback. 3 to 5Nm torque for wheel weight is great (how hard it is to steer), but road effects need instantaneous torque of 10Nm or higher to feel convincing.

    • @bkfpv
      @bkfpv 11 часов назад +1

      And I still have money for PSVR2 and a racing course compared to if i went with Fanatec of Logitech Pro.

  • @bernardoberner4
    @bernardoberner4 20 дней назад +19

    People complaining it looks ugly😂 the last thing I look for in a wheelbase is the looks.
    Not saying you need to agree with me, of course not, you are entitled to your opinion. But I do find it interesting that someone would care so much for the looks of a wheelbase

    • @misterpervysage476
      @misterpervysage476 19 дней назад

      If i told a non simracer that toy lookin thing was 600 dollars they would laugh. A csl dd and moza r5 look more expensive than their price but this looks worse 😂

  • @Factsfun-kg4xc
    @Factsfun-kg4xc 12 дней назад +1

    My first wheel was a DIY direct-drive setup, using an FFBeast with 15Nm torque. Since then, I've upgraded the motor from a hoverboard wheel to a high-quality industrial servo motor with 32Nm torque. It’s incredibly smooth, with zero cogging-just pure, raw power. I don’t think you’ll find any commercial wheelbase that matches the quality of a custom build. The wheelbase, along with the steering wheel featuring paddle shifters and 12 buttons, cost me only $500 to make. Good luck finding a 32Nm wheel for that price anywhere!

  • @lincolnklayvr
    @lincolnklayvr 20 дней назад +6

    because I have a Podium DD1 I was dismissive of the T598 but when I think about it this is the cheapest direct drive setup ( steering wheel , base and pedals ) that is officially Playstation licensed you can find

    • @andybeker5672
      @andybeker5672 12 дней назад

      use drive hub from collectiveminds

  • @bobbaganush17
    @bobbaganush17 19 дней назад +2

    i'm proud of u too buddy that was a nice move at 16:55

  • @Dave062YT
    @Dave062YT 19 дней назад +2

    Great to see TM back with an absolute winner .They should sell it wheelbase only tho as so many racers have a couple of wheels and T-CLM pedal set .I switched up to G pro but anyone on a more limited budget will love this for sure .I'd like to know how hot it gets after a few hrs as have a feeling it may struggle a bit in that department compared with more expensive offerings.

  • @fedricojgarza464
    @fedricojgarza464 19 дней назад +2

    Im thinking of getting T598 looks so cool ,my old T150 gas pad spring wear out so window shopping 😊🎉

    • @joeschmoe5009
      @joeschmoe5009 19 дней назад +1

      Just made this exact upgrade. Its 100% worth it

    • @fedricojgarza464
      @fedricojgarza464 19 дней назад

      @joeschmoe5009 that awesome 😎👍

  • @Haulinbassracing
    @Haulinbassracing 19 дней назад +5

    On wills video I made a comment about waiting for Rob Dahm to build a 4 rotor version. It was a joke but it seems this motor configuration the torque could be increased by adding additional plates.
    The shape everyone is complaining about could also become smaller with more plates in the design when the technology is developed further.
    Yeah it's lower end currently but this is exciting new tech too me.

    • @OfficialComentery
      @OfficialComentery 19 дней назад

      Just add more layers of traces of copper. Stronger magnets even a hallbach array with more power will do wonders. Also hopefully the software guys can utilize all the capabilities of the technology.

  • @vrcuriosity6274
    @vrcuriosity6274 19 дней назад +3

    I just want the wheelbase, already have Tlcm. PLEASE Thrustmaster.

    • @bratosin1
      @bratosin1 19 дней назад

      Next year

    • @thijsazerty692
      @thijsazerty692 18 дней назад

      Typical TM. That's one of the reasons I was eager to get out of their eco system. But this base certainly is interesting for those who are still on older low end Wheels, or just getting into sim racing.

  • @spizzlo
    @spizzlo 20 дней назад +4

    Looks awesome to me, TM just needs to flesh out their whole lineup. I have the t-lcm pedals and I love them because I came from the t3pa, but as flagship pedals for the brand? It's embarrassing honestly.
    I haven't seen anything on it, but I'm hoping they release just the wheelbase. If my rs-gt wheel would fit on it, that would be a great upgrade.

    • @KayoMichiels
      @KayoMichiels 20 дней назад +1

      I have them too, great pedals, but the lack of replacement springs on the thrustmaster website is a bummer.. because i had both of the throttle and clutch spring break on me due to metal fatigue... and i had to contact customer service in order to get new ones.. because ofcourse i had them longer than the warranty...

  • @matthewlesoski1469
    @matthewlesoski1469 20 дней назад +12

    No it does not look like any other base but who cares. I own it and it works great.

    • @SoberHighDrunk
      @SoberHighDrunk 18 дней назад

      Love mine

    • @workbirdygaming
      @workbirdygaming 17 дней назад

      I just bought it and can't wait coming from a t150

    • @BeamNGdriver63
      @BeamNGdriver63 17 дней назад

      Hey, would you recommend t300 rs gt or pay more and get this? (I’m beginner at sim racing)

    • @workbirdygaming
      @workbirdygaming 17 дней назад +1

      @BeamNGdriver63 pay more money if you can I say that because your always going to want the best 👌

    • @seanh8095
      @seanh8095 12 дней назад

      @@BeamNGdriver63I came from the T300 and I’m very happy with this wheel base. It could certainly use some software optimization, but it’s definitely worth the extra money.

  • @timothywest1183
    @timothywest1183 4 дня назад

    I have a T300RS with the T- LcM pedals. I’m trying to figure out if I want to get this base when it’s sold by itself because I love the petals I have already, or if I go with the TGT2 since I only use this for Gran Turismo seven on the PlayStation. I have a second rig with triples and a fan tech system, but I wanted a separate system for console and VR games. Very unsure which way I want to go.

  • @ericrodriguez1013927
    @ericrodriguez1013927 19 дней назад +1

    I bought it and love it now all I need is for them to make a Xbox compatible wheel and I’ll be set! Upgraded from g29.

  • @seanholdsworth4849
    @seanholdsworth4849 19 дней назад +1

    Hi , Mike for the money I think it fantastic really, you can spend a lot more on worse .
    Can I ask what Leaderboard mod are you using on the Video?

  • @matthewlesoski1469
    @matthewlesoski1469 20 дней назад +6

    The t598 is only like a half inch taller then the t300.

    • @EmoDKTsuchiya
      @EmoDKTsuchiya 18 дней назад

      Then it will fit my wheels stand perfectly

  • @robertosticca597
    @robertosticca597 10 дней назад

    What game are u playing? And what track Lov you channel

  • @Dave062YT
    @Dave062YT 19 дней назад +1

    Btw does LMU require a high end pc or something ?I bought it today and getting stuck in the menu setting up my wheel where I click on next bit to edit and nothing happens .My pc is a couple of years old but never had any problems with FM or ACCp.s also it takes an eternity to load a race .

  • @CWHolleman
    @CWHolleman 19 дней назад +5

    I find it very strange the main concern of the unit seems to be it's look and dimensions.
    Very strange to care more about form than function.

  • @Ryosuke324
    @Ryosuke324 7 дней назад

    SimuCube2 Ultimate has left the chat

  • @mlondipraiseworth3223
    @mlondipraiseworth3223 19 дней назад

    Im not sure if its me but i find LMU pointing upwards and I cannot figure out how to adjust it. For example in acc/ac i change pitch to +5

  • @wangoh-uo1gn
    @wangoh-uo1gn 19 дней назад

    Hi nice video!
    Can you mount third party wheels onto this base? It is ps5 compatible so this would be a worthy buy if you could mount a simHUB GT or Formula style wheel to it.
    In my opinion they should focus on a PS5 / PC wheelbase with a nrg style quick release and load cell pedal set (without the wheel) that enables third party simHUB wheels.
    Personally I don’t like the plastic and too many concessions have been made. In my opinion, it’s kind of lost in terms of who this should cater.
    It’s one of those wheelbases that will give you a taste and you will want to upgrade

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  19 дней назад +1

      @@wangoh-uo1gn thanks for watching. And no, I don’t think third party wheels are compatible

    • @wangoh-uo1gn
      @wangoh-uo1gn 19 дней назад

      @@SimRacing604 that’s a pity. It would have been a good opportunity.

    • @joeschmoe5009
      @joeschmoe5009 19 дней назад +1

      If you buy the thrustmaster quick release upgrade, you can mount any wheel, but if its not a thrustmaster wheel, it will only work as a circle, i dont believe any buttons will work, but i could be wrong.

    • @wangoh-uo1gn
      @wangoh-uo1gn 19 дней назад

      @ Thanks for the info. I wasn’t aware there was an upgrade adapter kit. As far as I understand, maybe we can think of this in three stages, but not in any specific order.
      1) The third party wheel would need to have simHUB functionality. This wheel would need to be plugged in using a USB cable (for power) to the windows PC for the screen, buttons and shifter / clutch paddles etc. in order for the device to work through simHUB.
      2) The quick release that is already mounted to the third party wheel (you can use a spacer too) will then be attached to the upgrade adapter which means when it is fully assembled, basically locks the wheel in place. This is primarily for the steering and force feedback only.
      3) Now with regards to the ps5, if the adapter upgrade that you mentioned can mount any simHUB third party wheel to the new thrustmaster base, you can connect the third party wheel by usb to a windows “laptop” or windows “tablet”that has simHUB installed. A laptop would be best because the usb coiled cable that comes with the third party wheel is generally too short but of course if your desktop pc is nearby with a usb powered hub then this can work too. This setup will work entirely independently from the thrustmaster direct drive base and the ps5 console. For third party steering wheels with screens, SimHUB as a program can then transmit the telemetry data picked up from the ps5 thru wifi to the laptop computer, which is then transferred to the wheel provided that it is under the same network.
      So if I understand you correctly, you were more or less thinking that only the steering and force feedback portion can work when you mount the wheel to the thrustmaster. You are correct, but in actual fact most third party wheels have to be powered either thru USB or using a wireless QR adapter etc. This will enable the buttons, shifters, lights, control mapping etc.
      I just personally think that thrustmaster could really take advantage of this situation if they just focused their efforts on providing the base and the pedals as a set. They don’t need to produce the steering wheels is what I am trying to say. Let the sim racer choose to get any other third party wheel (it happens anyways) and let them attach the wheel of their choice to the Thrustmaster base. By doing it this way they can use better quality materials to manufacture the direct drive base and the load cell pedals. They wouldn’t need to make so many concessions just to keep the price down because of the wheel. It’s one less component to manufacture and worry about. In this day and age the use of plastic is not the way to go especially for a direct drive wheel.
      To me this makes way more sense because a lot of sim racers would want that ps5 compatibility which is what thrustmaster has currently to their advantage. All the other brands like MOZA or Simagic to name a few, struggle with this PS5 issue.
      If thrustmaster can sell a DD base with (PS5 compatibility) that includes a pedal kit for $500 to $700 and has the ability to mount any NRG style Quick release simHUB wheel, wouldn’t that be a better solution? Also they don’t need to reinvent the wheel and just adopt the 70mm NRG universal quick release solution.
      Now keep in mind, I’m thinking primarily GT7 on the PS5 as simHUB has the ability to capture the telemetry data through the home network. For other racing titles that will all depend on what simHUB can support or not support.
      Unfortunately it looks like they purposely locked this base for their own wheels only which is not a smart thing to do. Such a missed opportunity.
      Hey if Thrustmaster manages to read this and likes the idea, please give me a shout and contact me 😃

  • @spacexe1710
    @spacexe1710 19 дней назад

    Can you only buy the base?

  • @frankcruz7617
    @frankcruz7617 18 дней назад

    Would moza pedals work with this wheel for ps5

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  18 дней назад

      @@frankcruz7617 no. Moza hardware is not PS compatible

    • @frankcruz7617
      @frankcruz7617 18 дней назад

      @ thanks do you know of any loadcell pedals I can get that will be compatible with the thrustmaster t598 as well as any e brakes I can buy for it as well I like drifting games and usually after drifting I like racing so this wheel gives both of the worlds I want

    • @frankcruz7617
      @frankcruz7617 18 дней назад

      @ I’m going to be buying myself the thrustmaster in a couple days from now I’m new to the sim world but my friend had one and I thought itd be fun after coming home from the warehouse I’m just lost as in what I need to be getting for a shifter and for a e brake I just don’t know where to look or what are good brands and what’s also cheap or expensive

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  18 дней назад

      @ I do believe that the T-LCM pedals should work. Double check on their website before you click the buy button, but that might be the simplest way forward

    • @frankcruz7617
      @frankcruz7617 16 дней назад

      @ do you know if the club sport fanatec handbrake will work with the thrustmaster t598 I’m not sure what ports i need to be looking for so that when I purchase a handbrake it plugs in no problem or even if there’s a way I can use like an adapter or something

  • @wallyedmonds8199
    @wallyedmonds8199 19 дней назад

    Ok for the price

  • @DonHichot
    @DonHichot 19 дней назад

    why do you need the virtual steering wheel?

    • @eliasbejok3690
      @eliasbejok3690 18 дней назад

      Looks better for us viewers

    • @DonHichot
      @DonHichot 18 дней назад

      @@eliasbejok3690 Nonsense, the steering wheel overlapping the steering wheel is completely pointless.

    • @michahund4879
      @michahund4879 18 дней назад +2

      @@DonHichotwhy dont you cry about it?

  • @SimStig
    @SimStig 20 дней назад +2

    So large the base isn’t it Mike

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  20 дней назад +2

      @@SimStig very large, yes. That might be the trade-off for using the technology.

    • @TheTeacher80
      @TheTeacher80 20 дней назад

      @@SimRacing604 Can you help me with the distance from the back of the base to the front of the wheel when you have time? thanks. I want to buy a DD bundle but i only have 3-36 cm space as my chair has a wall behind me so Fanatec seems a little to big, Moza seems ok only if i hard-mount closer to my monitor, these drives have very long shaft from base to wheel. I use G29 and seems so small compared to Fanatec and Moza. this T598 seems to be smaller in width (base+wheel). thanks in advance. And thanks for everything you do. Very helpfull videos.

    • @SimStig
      @SimStig 20 дней назад

      @@SimRacing604 Yes i think how it looks like infront of your monitor it does seem rather tall looking but great to see it in action!

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  20 дней назад +2

      @ no problem. And please don’t take this as millimetre perfect, but 24 cm / 9.5 inches from the rearmost point of the base to the front most point of the wheel. This does not include rear cable connections.

    • @TheTeacher80
      @TheTeacher80 20 дней назад +1

      @@SimRacing604 Thankyou very much. Cables are not a problem, only how close to my chest the wheel will be. I am only 30cm away from my Logitech wheel now. thanks again. I wait for BF to decide between this, fanatec and Moza. In Romania i think Fanatec will be faster and cheaper, but we will see.

  • @MarcoForestieri
    @MarcoForestieri 18 дней назад

    The base look bigger beacause motor tehcnology i gess

  • @bullit199
    @bullit199 20 дней назад +4

    The wheel rim… it really has 4 centering strips and none of them help you know the center of the rotation! 🤦‍♂️

    • @shandogg1313
      @shandogg1313 20 дней назад +8

      if you struggle to go straight ahead, you need more help than a strip on the wheel

    • @bullit199
      @bullit199 19 дней назад +1

      @@shandogg1313 that’s not it’s purpose. It’s to center your wheel for a quick release setup and calibrate it with your wheelbase software. So yeah, doesn’t seem you even understand why having 4 of them is ridiculous. 😂

    • @joeschmoe5009
      @joeschmoe5009 19 дней назад +2

      ​@@bullit199just look at the top of the wheels center plate, its flat, and you can only insert the wheel in 1 orientation since its a keyed insert, super easy to center

    • @heelandtoeknee
      @heelandtoeknee 19 дней назад

      Yeah. Enjoy Rally racing with those 4 strips! 😂

  • @forfreedomtwo6921
    @forfreedomtwo6921 19 дней назад +1

    Gone thru the user guide trying to confirm. Only 3 user adjustable FFB preset?? No FFB preset saved per game is not acceptable. Imagine you spend days/months to come up with the perfect FFB settings per game and you have more than 3 games.

    • @joeschmoe5009
      @joeschmoe5009 19 дней назад +1

      Do other wheels/bases have 3+ settings? Ive never heard of such a thing

    • @forfreedomtwo6921
      @forfreedomtwo6921 19 дней назад

      @@joeschmoe5009 Well 20 years old Logitech wheels runs on the logitech gaming software which you can create unlimited profiles for any number of games. TM better allows this in the PC app when it is finalized. Can't imagine it would be hard to implement. EDIT: Looks like there is a phone app which should do this if compatible.

    • @SoberHighDrunk
      @SoberHighDrunk 18 дней назад

      @@forfreedomtwo6921they say they’re aware of the not saving profiles issue and why tf did the software ship with “coming soon” over the settings page

  • @TrueBlade-1889
    @TrueBlade-1889 19 дней назад +5

    Thrustmaster could make the best most expensive wheel in history... yet like Logitech, it would STILL look like an oversized plastic toy.

  • @bertram-raven
    @bertram-raven 18 дней назад +1

    Thrustmaster has a habit of either abandoning products or "improving the build" (making it more cheaply and it shows) after three years. This was reasonable with the majority of their legacy and wider product ranges; controllers and FPS keyboards are subject to the whims of current fashion. The Thrustmaster business model was once entirely built around "Worn out? Buy another!" mentality. Although this has changed a little, they have clearly not fully left this mindset behind. Despite the ability to change rims, the price of 500USD for the wheel, wheel base, and pot-pedals is indicative of a disposable product mindset. What I hope, but what is not yet clear, is Thustmaster put all the quality into the wheel-base and threw in a cheap wheel and pedals to get people started. The hope being customers would upgrade to using another of their add-on wheels and pedals.
    Would I buy if I was just started out? No. There are too many alternatives in the market with a solid history of on-going support for not much more money and a proper quick-releases. Should you buy it? I cannot say. In Europe at least there are a growing number of stores where you can go to try out entire ranges of sim gear from different manufacturers. Even if you are only buying for occasional fun play, it is worth taking to time to visit such a store should it be an option for you.

  • @Burntoilcoffee
    @Burntoilcoffee 20 дней назад +1

    Until they add the load cell brake it isn't worth a hill of beans

    • @josephlauer8980
      @josephlauer8980 18 дней назад +1

      know of any other playstation compatible direct drive wheelbase, wheel, and good starter pedals for this price?

  • @Warlun888
    @Warlun888 20 дней назад +1

    No matter how good it is, it looks awful, not sticking it on my rig.

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  20 дней назад +2

      @@Warlun888 it’s not pretty, I agree. That is among my top complaints about this unit.

    • @michahund4879
      @michahund4879 20 дней назад +5

      well to be fair all the other choices look like bricks too. I really like the look of the t818.

    • @KayoMichiels
      @KayoMichiels 20 дней назад +1

      @@SimRacing604 If i were to get this base, i would probably just hide it behind my SRH dashboard.

    • @palaHD
      @palaHD 19 дней назад

      What rig you got ? A playseat challenge ? @warlun888

    • @SoberHighDrunk
      @SoberHighDrunk 18 дней назад +1

      Ok

  • @claudiobrandao5732
    @claudiobrandao5732 20 дней назад

    No!!!!!!!