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Hi @Fextralife. Loving your videos. You mentioned moving on to the level 100 builds but you haven't yet added the lvl 50 spellblade upgrade you mentioned in your enchanted knight video. Please don't forget this one! I built my character using your first spellblade guide and would love to upgrade it!
early game farming spots: for feathers, Murkwater coast = 5 birds round that one grace, very fast very easy. for bones: south of Church of Pilgrimage in Weeping Peninsula, head towards the walking mausoleum towards the merchant in the south west, theres 5 herds to hunt inbetween those 2 loacations. Tonnes of bones in just a few runs taking a couple minutes each
adding white mask, bloodloss medalion and sepukku off hand gives +30% dmg for 20 sec, 1 sec for activation. also left hand royal knight resolve for +60% dmg for 10sec. shard of alexander boosts +15% dmg on ash of war works with bow ashes as well.
Aeonian Butterflies for Scarlet Rot are in the Abandoned Cave in Caelid (Dragonbarrow). Just use a dagger with quick step to dash to them. You don't need many to keep a stock and using Scarlet Rot plus Poison Arrows on bosses helps tremendously.
@JL and a mage can do it better without needing to grind. Bows should be imho able to deal big amounts of damage per arrow and have at least decent scaling
@@b.r.h4088 You need to take in consideration that bow users can just shoot from far away from you. Meaning they can just kill you from far if you do not pay attention or roll good enough.
Too bad, I had hoped to play an Archer at some point, but this level of preparation looks just tedious. Great work as always with the build though, I'm impressed you even found a way to make this viable!
Once you are able to buy alot of different kinds of arrows it's not bad. Just go to one of the spots where you can farm alot of souls and just buy a massive supply
Compliments for your dedication to this build, although I fear keeping this viable in all situations will be harsh. There are a lot of Lords, greater foes and dragons that will severely punish you for purely playing the spacing game.
Testing this build at lvl 100 and I have to say with rain of arrows there aren't any real troubles I haven't been able to overcome with the right status arrow.
Yeah but to be fair it's very easy to slot into some light weight melee weapon into the build that scales, and use that for those scenarios. And bleed (or any status) on arrows and same on a blade sounds pretty fun tbh.
@@vulkhanasennet9961 same here, i'm level 60ish and I think about 80% of the bosses I faced so far was defeated using bow and arrows like Radhan(nerfed version), Loretta, O'neil and some cave bosses. I just don't know how to deal with enemies that always have their shiled up, maybe use mighty shot? Does it perice defense? Or am thinking about through and through which is only for great bows.
Do you guys know whether it's worth including crossbows, greatbows and ballistas into this build later on? I'm really struggling with the amount of arrows. Any other tricks/exploits that make bow-oriented builds viable lategame?
One thing you keep forgetting to talk about is that bows with a D or higher scaling in Strength should be preferred as every bow will always give a 50% increase to your Strength stat due to their innate two-handedness. It's also why you should focus into Strength early on as it scales up deceptively well until you reach 30 (45 when two-handed), at which point you should focus the rest into Dexterity (if it also has a D or higher scaling) to get the most bang for your levels.
I beat the game putting minimal points into strength/dex for my bow build, due to the atrocious scaling. I never thought about the double of the strength stat, thank you so much!
@@Brown95P This is the exact reason why I use the Jar Cannon. Even without the bow glitch (it having been patched at this point) it requires a Str of 34 to use, which is worth scaling to that point anyway because of the bow scaling. The bad thing is that the jar cannon doesn't scale with attributes
@@nyxborne1786 The Jar Cannon's honestly overrated anyway; like yeah it's stronk and can penetrate enemies, but outside of that it's a greatbow (aka so loud enemies nearby are alerted) that's much slower and doesn't even have feathered bone ammo, so you need the arrow's reach talisman to make it remotely work. 'Sides, if you're gonna spend 30+ points in strength to use the jar cannon, then you might as well use a greatbow that requires that much and actually scales with it instead.
This only applies to the generic Shortbow, generic Greatbow, and the Pulley Bow.. The letter grades describe a whole range of scaling, with the real scaling value almost always being either objectively higher for Dexterity (Albinauric Bow), or the Strength scaling being exactly two thirds of the Dexterity scaling so they'll match either way (Black Bow). You can test this with negator13's AR calculator online.
Wow I just converted my battle mage to this after realizing making my pure archer build was way too much grinding. So far it's great, the extra range to pull targets and hit with speed is incredible. Highly recommend.
Would you consider your archer build more viable than your mage build? Just curious because I want to make a ranged build but don't know which to choose.
Great tips for bows, I've really wanted to try an archer build but the scaling made me desist. I would love to see more leveled up classes video, I would really like to know your approach to a dragon lightning faith build, with all the lightning incantations and the bolt of gransax/dragon's king cragblade weapon arts!
There's another bow build I think could be viable into the later game. I use the serpent bow on my build that's basically Fextra's Blood Dragon but before it came out, and with a few tweaks. I think you get it from a cave in Caelid. It's the only bow in the game with Arc scaling, and it increases the application of poison. The item description says it makes all arrows apply poison, but I think that's a mistranslation because I've never gotten a poison proc with normal arrows. With Serpent arrows though, which can be purchased infinitely from the vendor behind Greyoll in Caelid, basically anything that can be poisoned will be after 2-3 shots, almost always 2
The dragon lightning incantations are easily cancelled by being hit once and you fall if you’ve jumped And if you time it well they do decent damage but unless you’ve specd like 45-50 they only do minimal damage. And I’m still trying to find out when faith sofcaps
@@justinjacobson7495 fellow archer here. Im also quite fond of the serpent bow and thanks to your comment I remembered that serpent arrows exists, with that in mind ill just focus on stocking up on blood loss arrows which works great with rain of arrows ash of war.
@@justinjacobson7495 Finally found someone who sees the light. Just left a long ass comment under the pinned comment about the serpent bow. This dudes previous video made me decide to play the bandit class so I could focus on range. The damage was okay with mighty shot and the composite bow. Once I switched to the serpent bow and started leveling arcane for blood loss it has been insane how well the serpent arrows work. I'm not even that high arcane yet. I thought it might be the only bow that scales with arcane. That's unfortunate but the poison procs so fast and is a great way to begin a fight even if you're not going to range the whole time. I love using the serpent bow and switching to dual reduvia daggers for crazy blood loss in close quarters.
@@bjjwhitebelt5777 I've been looking for a way to deal decent blood loss with a bow for some time. Been using the serpent bow for poison very effectively and my arcane is decent for getting the blood loss status going. But I haven't found any ash of wars for bows yet. Where can I find rain of arrows?
Absolute love for this one, I very much enjoy a hunter gatherer experience in games and Elden Ring being able to have that is pure joy. Farming arrows is part of the experience. :D So thank you for this guide its a great how to on the baisics.
As I've been trying to make the Archer build works as well, that it is better to kill the Merchants, take their bells, and give them to the twin old lady, so that you can buy arrows, all in one spot. You might want to consider doing it, as keeping the Merchant NPCs alive, doesn't do anything for you anyway.
The merchants are one of my favourite NPC's in the game... Especially that musical instrument playing guy who managed to get to literal hell zone inside another hell zone.
@@soulghoul3234 Yeah right? I sweat and die numerously to get to Fromsoftware's 13th secret area in the game and there's already a homie playin a mean fiddle there? I love em
@@soulghoul3234 Same. However, I cannot be bothered to keep trying to find the NPC that I found somewhere within the vast lands in Elden Ring. So... The hardest decisions requires the strongest wills.
@@GaryAlanRidgway not really, 15-30 arcane should be enough at the most and i wouldnt add onto it until past level 140, since bandit already starts with 14
you alreadyd have things like double air shot, barrage and rain of arrows to hit multiple arrows into an enemy, but yes, immunity is the factor which fights arcane, so if the enemy is stacked with immunity, it will take longer for buildup
They have added int scaling to the bow in the lastest patch! Unfortunately only E.. But still something, having this build scale with int somehow rather than strength sounds promising and more Magic Archery. Throw up some buff or defensive spells. You at least wanna get mind up eventually I suppose to spam more skills.
I'm afraid you didn't explore all of your options when it comes to archery. You can make a completely viable mid-game pure archery build, and with only a little bit of time investment. Within a few hours and careful planning, you can be extremely powerful - especially against bosses. I recommend this for players who have experienced enough of the game that they're comfortable enough to do a lil' bit of early exploration. No melee. Here's what you need: Black Bow (found in the Capital). Upgrade materials to +6 *Somber* Greatbow (dropped in Atlus Plateau). Upgrade materials to +12 *Normal*. This is optional, as you have to grind for it. Hunt it or not, but it can be safely ignored as it's replaced by the Lion Greatbow. After Radahn: Lion Greatbow. Upgrade materials off of Somber, but prioritize Black Bow. Spoilers ahead. You've been warned. >Level Range: Around 50 to really optimize this. To begin: Pick Samurai, golden seed. You start with a bleed weapon and decent enough stats. Grab your horse and get moving. Move forward to Third Church of Marika, take the portal behind. Grab the Gold Seed, move to the lower bridge where the Calvary Knight spawns. Switch to night time. Jump on top of the giant root, and pop him with the long bow. He'll run around to the root side, but if not, convince him to. Lure him into the corner of the root, where the bridge meets the root, and he'll get stuck. Jump onto the bridge. Cheese him with arrows or until he falls off and dies. Collect souls. Level Vigor, grab 15 strength, and start pumping Dex up to at least 20. Move on to the fort. Speedrun for the Half Talisman of Dectus, and the Soreseal. Turn around, head south. Bleed the dragon to death. Grab a ton of runes. Max out basic arrows at a nearby vendor. Do a little horse exploration, grab Numen's Rune from the Tower of Caelid, along with all runes in the area - and then buy a shortbow. Usual material route to get it to around +6 or so, grab other half of the amulet from Fort Haight. Speedrun through Weeping Peninsula for Golden Seeds, grab the poison mist incant, buy as many Kukris as you wish from the Mourne Rampart vendor, then take the shortcut to Liurel. Seeds, unlock the lift, more seeds, grab seeds from outside capital, unlock merchant bonfire up top for Golden Arrows. Cheese Margit and Godfrey with your normal shortbow. Ez pz, can summon if you're chicken. But with 40 vigor, it's really hard to die. Equip and activate Godrick's Great Rune. You now have the stats for Poison Mist. Head to outside the capital, top of the map, sneak around slowly behind the Draconic Tree Sentinel. With 6 azure flasks, poison mist him to death from behind for the ultimate 0 effort cheese. Takes 12 minutes or so, but you can afk while doing it to browse memes/youtube. Buy a variety of arrows with his runes, or get back on that level grind (I recommend stockpiling arrows). If you've unlocked the West Dragon bonfire north of Caelid, grab poison arrows by the dozen, along with some fire arrows in Central Caelid. Time check: Around 1:30 in, much less if you don't mess around with multiplayer. Grab the key to the Academy, and grab your second great rune from the easy boss there. Enter the capital. Grab the black bow. Find, or buy, the upgrades to +5 black bow, then do the Caelid Crystal Mines dungeon for the +6. With this much progress, Radahn is available to fight. Surprisingly, he's super easy with arrows - poison him or hit him with Rot, maybe even make Rotbone arrows. The black bow works like a shortbow, and even has barrage - but has Longbow damage. Once you kill him (likely on your first try), make his greatbow. His weapon art is your crowd control. Progress through the game and focus on leveling dex. You're now vastly overpowered, and you have a great crowd control bow, too. Be sure to drop the Soreseal later on for the Archery Talisman in Caelid, as the +10% damage done outweighs the stats late game. You're welcome.
These are great, but as per what he said at the start: The goal of these guides is to avoid making players go to later game areas/avoid spoiling parts of the game and preserve a sort of "natural progression" players can hit when just playing the game normally without all of these extra minmax cheese strats. :p
@@Ideataster That's why I listed it as more of an experienced player build. Additionally, this is definitely "mid-game" enough to justify it as a moderately experienced build. I think Dragonbarrow isn't too far off from a new player's perspective, and easy enough to do - if not recommended for the Golden Seeds alone. But first timers definitely shouldn't try this - it's not organic. I didn't include Volcano Manor to reach a super high tier, either - though I totally should have. Really, this is more so a "I've made a character, got moderately far - and want to try a better build."
@@SariatheFrostMage could you do a short build for beginners too? I started a vagabond class but I don't feel it comfortable honestly I never played a game like this but I played wow before and I had a shadow priest which I was kinda op in pve and pvp. Is there any class I can play with in a similar role like in wow as a shadow priest? I also had hunter but I can't decide the bandit or the samurai would be better for me. It is difficult because I don't want to waste time but I am kinda lost in this game 😅
@@ExtremeBoyheat You can purchase the Nomadic Warrior's Cookbook (15) in Caelid. You'll find it on the southern, central half of Caelid's map, directly beneath the rotten lake - inside of the upside triangle part of the roads, sold by a nomadic merchant for 4k runes. Additionally, you can find the Bone Peddler's Bell in the Warmaster's Shack, which is East of Stormveil Castle. If you exhaust the Warmaster's dialogue and buy a few weapon arts, if you pass time until night - then rest again - an optional boss called the Bellbearing Hunter will appear where the Warmaster is typically idle. He's a tough fight in any of the four locations he spawns, but if you keep your distance and always roll his attacks, you'll melt him. Finally, you don't *really* need a greatbow. It's just for openers and stagger in PvE, or knockback in PvP. The black bow will carry you through the whole game. I recommend that if you intend to do pure bow, keep in mind that the Black Bow is a D/D scaling weapon - but also always requires two hands to fire, and thus will benefit off of 1.5x strength (you can confirm this with any greatbow you lack the strength for - 2handing at 15 strength will give you enough power for Radhan's Lionbow). At 27 strength, wielding a bow in both hands will give you 40 effective strength - thus you don't need to invest as harshly into it as you do Dex. So you have a little more wiggle room for other points - I recommend either some AoE spells, or personally, I would go with Beastial Faith Spells and minor buffs. Since you have only a minor amount of wiggle room, and a fair amount of strength (27 on one hand), you'll find you get the most mileage there. My stat recommendations are going to include whatever armor you're planning to wear, so if it gives stats, include that. 40 vigor minimum (spare points goes here) 18 mind (if you have no plans for support spells/minor aoe, you can leave this at base) 30 endurance (heavier armor is better, and this is a great place to start) 27 strength (this is non-optional. You are a quality build with 27 strength/40 dex) 40 dex (non-optional) Base Int (Int spells require a lot of investment for payoff, I would avoid these) 27 Faith (gives you enough faith for most of the spells, without being a massive point hog. Optional.) If you don't do faith, put those levels into other stats, or Arcane. You should cap out around level 120, which is usually the agreed level for Elden Ring PvP.
The bows work as a weapon to take out enemies out at range so you do not have to fight a whole group. The bows work for this. It very easy to have whole arrow collection by mid game because you can buy arrows and bones from merchant. What they need to do is boost the scaling of the bows.
I think they're being careful with bows (and always have been), because if the game is super doable with bows, a lot of bosses aren't balanced around such long range. Making it a challenge seems like a compromise to me. I have a feeling that late game bows are pretty damn strong though.
@@keeganbate8935 Most bosses strafe to the left and right. It is very easy to miss bow shots when you lock on to an enemy. There is too many cons then pros for using bows as primary. They need to least give bow a c scaling.
@@TheBlakamon15 you make great points, I'm unable to have great insight into this since I haven't used bows personally, just providing general thoughts
@@keeganbate8935 Yeah there is so many things that lower the damage of bows. Faster bows work better up close while med to long bows do more damage but slower at range. This is because arrows have fall off damage so you cannot be too far without losing damage. Most scaling of bows is so low that you cannot get a lot of bonus damage from stats. You have to make or buy a lot arrows but it easy to lose a lot of arrows. Enemies can just walk left and then right for you to miss your shots when auto lock. It takes a lot of work to use a bow but it much easier to use throwing knives and they scale better and do better damage.
unfortunately , throughout all souls games, bows have always been created for the purpose of being a supplementary weapon to pull mobs from packs and do a little damage for a tactical advantage between your preferred melee or magic attacks. Would be nice to finally see some real recognition of what bows COULD be in a game that is broad and diverse in it's arsenal like Elden Ring. The builds that bow gameplay could offer would be incredibly fun and satisfying.
Yeah, but in DS 1 and 2 you could carry a shit ton of arrows. Not only that, but there were also some very cheap arrows that you could buy from the beginning of the game, so it made doing bow-only runs very easy, or at least not as tedious as in Elden Ring.
You don't have to wait for the bell bearer. After changing to night. Just sit at the grace again and he will spawn. You have to walk into the shack for him to spawn though
It really depends on what sort of bow you end up maining. For example, the Lion Greatbow from Radahn's remembrance is a quality bow, while the Horn bow here scales with Intelligence and dexterity. You could also farm up a golem's greatbow pretty early, which is a nice strength scaling bow. I would say maybe pick the bow you want to use based on the off hand melee weapon you might want to support it. Beyond that, I would say Endurance is a good stat as you consume huge quantities of stamina, particularly if you are going for a rapid fire playstyle using animation cancels with jumps/rolls.
@@lolgooglesuckstv8682 Yeah thats my bad, I picked the bow up later myself and realized that. I could have sworn it had Int scaling, but it only requires a bit of int.
I was excited a more dex/int build utilizing the black bow and Lorettas Great bow spell. I use the rot/bleed arrows to get the procs and the Magic arrow to deal massive damge
@@LeagueofLegends24 no build guide lol but I started as bandit used short bow that I eventually made magic then found horn bow early and just used that. Moved on to lorretas greatbow spell after the boss is cairn manor and use that with rogiers rapier and horn bow with magic and bleed arrows depending on situations. Next build will be 100% greatbow/ballista!
I would love to see a build around the dark moon (moonlight) greatsword. I've been using it a lot but struggle to understand its scaling and how to build around it properly
You have no idea how fitting this build is for me, aaaa! I've literally been looking up 'magic archers' everywhere but couldn't find anything comprehensive, so imagine my glee when I saw you post a dedicated video for it! I'm actually mostly playing as a mage but carrying a short bow as a secondary weapon for whenever I run out of FP, so this magic archer is absolutely perfect for my life! Thanks so much! Also, can't wait for your updated mage build!
I've built a Magic Archer build on day 1, if you have any questions you can send me a message. I totally understand how you feel and was beginning to think I was literally the only person with the build lol
@@sk0omaalters96 that's so awesome of you! For mine, I'm mostly just dabbling on archery as a backup skill set (I'm going for int/fait) whenever I run out/need to conserve FP from using spells. Having said that though, I'm curious as to how much Int you have on yours, and how you utilize the "magic" aspect of the build? Since I have little to no points going into str/dex, I'm looking for ways to amplify the damage of my bow with the mage stats that I have.
@@GianJurado I went a lot more in on the magic aspect. This build he has posted isn’t really a “magic archer”, it’s just an archer build that uses a bow with a little magic damage on it lol. Think of mine as a “Spellblade” but instead of the blade part I use bows
@@sk0omaalters96 yes! That's exactly what I want to go for too! Really curious about the stats you're playing with. Also, any tips on the most optimal bow and arrows to use? Any skills you rely on?
Quick way to spawn bell bearing hunters is to rest at the grace and pass time to night, then stand up from the grace and rest again. The second rest at the grace will reset the area and make the bell bearing hunter spawn when you approach.
@Fextralife I have a question regarding blood arrows. Does the Arcane stat increase the bleed build up (as well as other status build up) on arrows the same as it does on melee weapons? I've invested into arcane for bloody slash on a twin blade with bleed procs but wanted to incorporate this archer build into it by using status procs from the arrows.
Can't wait for the endgame builds. I'm holding back my paladin just to don't waste runes, meanwhile I'm just using them to buy upgrade materials and recepe/items
When a bow fires a arrow the game considers it a "bullet" the only way to increase the AR of these types is a overall AR increase such as the following talismans: 1. Kindred of the rotten exultation: 20% ar increase once poisoned within 7m of the poison happening 2. Sword insignia: raises overall AR if hp is a maximum 3. Lord of blood exultation: 20% AR increase if bleed is active within 7m of it procing Names might be wrong so sorry but these three will increase arrow damage. There are more as well
Easier way to farm poison arrows is the waypoint ruins. There is a site of grace there after you clear out the boss, and the plan enemy upstairs drops 5 poisonbloom every time guaranteed. You don’t have to worry about poison either so close to the grace. The other small plants also have a chance to drop poisonbloom and it’s accessible earlier on than tombsward cave.
In order to make the Bell Bearing Hunter spawn faster, do the following: Go to said bonfire, pass time to night. Stand up from the bonfire, sit down again. When you now leave the bonfire, the Bell Bearing Hunter should show up.
I wish there was a carian slasher version of Loretta's greatbow. I guess glinstone shard, but it doesn't have the bow shaped cool factor. Maybe an art of war for regular bows that uses fp to make magic arrows.
Blue dancer charm + magic scorpion charm + ritual sword talisman + warrior jar shard Then in your flask, throw on the one that increases magic damage. Maybe even go up to 20 int and grab Terra Magica. Really boost your magic damage. I would consider throwing on Loretta's greatbow on a late game build, too. Scaling on bows is terrible anyhow, mix a str/int build so you can have some spell utility. STR will be more efficient to put points into than dex because you have to 2 hand the bow anyways. Cast a couple magic glintblades and pull out your bow to shoot them at the same time. Sounds like a fun build to me.
Really love ur videos but dont wanna grind that much but i tried all ur build cant seem to find one i like the most because like them made differents alt and used the cheesy boss strategy to level up equal to ur lv and try them out its fun but i really want a build wich uses the lighting spear spell cuz that spell hurts a ton
If you see this i had a question, should the Magic Arrow being doing more Damage over the Regular Arrows you can buy from a merchant? Noticing the regular arrows do more damage except against certain enemies when doing Mighty Shot with the Horn Bow
Your dedication has inspired me! I can feel your love for this game in all parts of this video. This really inspired me, thx a lot for this video! I shall try and make an endgame PvP bow build with this and prolly cry myself to sleep after the first three fights but hey, I'm rly hyped right now! ^^
So not sure if this would fit the bow build but there is an arm cannon that uses great bolts. It’s scales from STR and hits.. well like a cannon. It’s very slow to load and heavy but can give you a great starter shot to take a ton of an enemies hp. I forget the name of the weopon but it ms a large Jar found it in a cave in Mt Gulmir
I've found it impossible to PURELY be a bow user and stay viable late game. That said, making liberal use of multiple bows with different ashes in your build and an appropriate weapon for your build is rife potential, notably in invasions. For my case, I am a Dexterity/Intelligence build with Moon Veil as my melee armament. My bows are Horned Bow with the Enchanted Shot ash of war and the Albinauric Bow with the Rain of Arrows ash of war. I also have Staff of Loss as a left hand armament and Lusat's Staff on one of my right hand slots, one for casting support spells like Terra Magica and one for damage, specifically for Loretta's Sorceries as I will count those as bows, mostly useful for bosses. My talisman load is as follows; Shard of Alexander, Magic Scorpion, Arrows Reach, and Arrows Sting, the first two being just as useful for Moon Veil as it is Horn Bow. I am also wearing the White Reeds armor set with no headpiece. I carry all of this with just 20 endurance and still maintain a medium weight load, and I can make myself light with a Winged Crystal Tear, my other tear obviously being the Magic Cracked Tear. Level: 150 25 Vigor 20 Endurance 66 Dexterity 60 Intelligence And I am actually questioning if I should remove 5 points of vigor and throw that into dex, because I already one shot a lot of people with Moon Veil because they try to take advantage of a bow's weakness, especially those rushing in with River's of Blood if they aren't using an Uplifting Aromatic. My use of Moon Veil can be summarized as this, or I'd want to believe it as such. "You use Moon Veil to run up and assault me, I use Moon Veil when you run up to assault me, we are not the same". To me, Moon Veil feels even more fun to use in an all or nothing gambit when arrows can't get the job done, or perhaps, when the arrows are doing their job. With some practice, aside from Horn Bow arrows homing on targets to pressure opponents, you can use rain of arrows as they attempt to hide behind cover to hopefully flush them out. Do it all right and they will want to rush you, which you can either run away and shoot or prepare your Moon Veil for the decisive attack or attacks. Running away towards monster mobs is also a good option if it's available, and it's even easier to hit with arrows when your opponent is focused on avoiding the maw of a giant deformed canine, and I would recommend this approach for any hosts that you see are wearing notably heavy armor sets that you understand can't be obliterated by Moon Veil's Ash of War or you're seeing very liberal use of Bloodhound Step, which is another reason to suggest the Winged Crystal Tear in your physick bottle. This leads me to a question, if I want more places to invade where I can use overworld enemies to assist me, SHOULD I jump to NG+? Or will I drastically reduce the pool of players I can invade in the process? I personally don't like the idea of invading Liurnia or Limgrave knowing that all the monsters can be one or two shot out of existence and then have a bunch of people message me to tell me to invest in vigor like it is gospel as they run around places in co-op for no other reason than to invite invaders to squat and tea-bag over. My most successful invasions have always been in late game areas with either tough enemies or limited movement like the Haligtree Canopy.
I think that bows are in a better place in Elden Ring when compared to previous Souls games, but I'm not sure they are intended to be unaccompanied by other sources of damage (like having a sword/spear backup). You kind of have to mix things when wanting to focus heavily on bow/crossbows, which is something I have no issue with.
it seems that almost everything in this game is geared towards mindless oneshot jump attacks. claw talisman says "increases damage of jump attack" it doesnt say "melee jump attack" this should work with ALL attacks performed WHILE in the air. if i cast Beastial Sling while in the air, claw talisman should be activated. if i jump and throw a bone throwing knife, claw talisman should be active. im getting sick of this game. everything but copy paste builds in pvp. because of bullshit like this.
So are you respec-ing into this or are you starting out with a strength build? The reason I ask is by level 50, with the Archer starter build in your previous video, you would have good vigor and possibly endurance (for better armor) and then pumping up Dex. But this magic build is only increasing Dex to the limits of the bow and then increasing Strength instead. Could you clarify please?
Bow builds should never be considered for 1st run completions. They are challenge run builds. Like you said, the scaling, materials, and equipment just aren"t there until NG+ and on.
It's just not meant to work. From really needs to fix the scaling on a lot of weapons, there is not a good balance at all. Even the Black Bow is still D scaling, and that was traditionally an S DEX bow. I've been watching Phemeto do his playthrough as bow only and it's slow going, lots of farming for part or ruins to buy arrows, every boss takes 3 times as long to beat. He posted videos showing it's not impossible, but it's gonna be painful. Best bow to use is the Golem Greatbow, it has the highest scaling out of every bow in the game and it's in STR, it's better than Radhan's even, which is bonkers that a boss weapon should ever have worse stats than a regular bow.
my favourite arrow is the normal arrow with the basic long bow ....gets the job done....also check my video on malenia less then 1 min ,level 131 quality build
Elden Ring really just added bows and their ash of wars to check a box. They put very little effort into them and it’s so easy to make them viable by just having them scale.
I don't understand why they wouldn't just add proper scaling to bows? It's not like it would be OP and would easily open up more options for players. And more ashes of war, like maybe option to shotgun 3 arrows at once or something that spreads out the longer the range which would be a decent swap for barrage etc. Bows were just left in the dark again, which is weird because they bothered with the crafting etc?
i got 2 lazuli swords but the INT required is 20, i made a astrologer, and farmed it on the mob right before the classroom grace in Raya Lucaria, anyone knows if its a bug on the tooltip, im playing on Series S
My favorite place for flight pinions is the same SOG in Caelid where you get the Arrow's Reach talisman - the Impassable Greatbridge. There are 3 of the little penguin-type birds there just a couple feet from the SOG so it's SUPER quick to kill, rest (better yet, fast travel -- unless you're using a fowl foot, in which case you want to rest rather than travel), repeat. I use Glintstone Arc, with which I can kill all 3 birds in one hit -- just takes a little practice getting the right distance / spot and being able to sneak up without frightening them. You can also use Whirl, O Flame! the same way, but I think Glintstone Arc works better and more reliably for getting them all at once, or you can use Glintstone Pebble or Flame Sling to get them one at a time, and with a little practice you won't scare the others away (I think Flame Sling works best for that). I like using those birds because they also have a high rate of dropping Fowl Feets. Occasionally I also farm the Warhawks by Rampart Tower in Stormveil Castle, but those have such a low drop rate they get depressing. I use Glintstone Pebble to kill those, and I think it's more efficient to just get the first 3 and skip the fourth one that's behind the building at the end. Using spells to kill the birds lets you NOT use your precious arrows, and is obviously more efficient than using arrows to make arrows. If your build is more Faith than Intelligence, you can use the Staff of the Guilty for your occasional Sorcery -- it uses Faith rather than Intelligence. You can get that by farming the one fire monk who stands outside the fire monk village up in Liurnia by the Eastern Tableland SOG. The monk in question is just to the west of the village. There are also several fire slugs around that village, so you can use that area for farming smouldering butterflies, too, and 3 birds just north of the monk, so you can pick up a few flight pinions each iteration as well. And even a handful of sheep, so you can grab some bones while you're at it. Great farming area. Plus, you can raid that village itself once for the Flame, Cleanse Me enchantment, which is VERY helpful all around Caelid, and in particular for getting through the Abandoned Cave, where you can pick up the Serpent Bow. (Which I know isn't part of the particular build in the video, but others will definitely want to consider as an option, or as an addition. My own preference is Serpent Bow until I can get the Black Bow later in the game.) Before I started using the Eastern Tableland for farming Smouldering Butterflies, I used to Liurnia Lake Shore merchant. He just has 1 Butterfly (sometimes 2) at his campfire, but he also has several other crafting materials right there (mushroom, fruit, flower) and 3 birds, so I would pick up all those items, rest & repeat, and wind up with my inventory full of several things. Any extra crafting materials, you can sell for runes, so it never hurts to grab extra when you have a chance. Seems like most of my smithing, merchant purchases, and the like tend to be paid for half with excess crafting materials. For Poisonblooms, the best place is Waypoint Ruins. Use the SOG in the Cellar. Run upstairs, kill the big flower, kill the small ones, go round the corner to where there are 2 more small flowers in a narrow hallway and get those, fast travel back to the SOG and repeat. Very quick, 5-7 Poisonblooms each iteration. For roses, the rose church: Use the Fallen Ruins on the Lake SOG just to the east, gallop over, and just where you hit the rose church island, turn left and there are 2 small poison flowers you can kill for the occasional Poisonbloom. Hop up from there toward the church (/center of the island) and grab the crystal bud on your left. Turn due north and go a few feet -- just off the coast of the island is the first Bloodrose. Then trot into the church and grab the rose from the middle of the church first, then turn to the right and get 1 or 2, then turn left and get the ones closest to the entrance, then I think about 3 more along that left side farther from the entrance, and as you get those the invader enemy will be spawning in beside you, so jump over him to grab the final rose from behind him and run out of the church and away back toward the SOG in the east, or just run around the perimeter of the island, until the game releases you from combat mode and lets you fast travel the rest of the way to the SOG. Repeat. (Or yeah, you can let the enemy kill you.) You get 9-10 roses each round. For Glintstone Fireflies for magic arrows -- and I can't believe you didn't mention this place! -- the best place is Lenne's Rise over in Caelid. You can get there as early in the game as you like -- take the teleporer from behind the 3rd church of Marika to the Bestial Sanctum, run down the road to the Farum Greatbridge SOG, take the path off to the left/east and run down on your horse across the smaller/lower bridge (you will hit poison traps but just keep running until you hit the Lenne's Rise SOG). You can farm the ball that rolls down the hill there (check RUclips for how, of course) and on each round, grab several Glintstone Fireflies. I tend to go there whenever I've got about halfway or so to the next level and run out of things I can easily do without risking my increasing number of runes to an inconvenient death. I farm until I can level up, and I wind up with hundreds of spare Glintstone Fireflies in the process. And a few (I think faded?) Erdleaf Flowers, too. I also did a test on farming for runes to buy beast bones vs. farming for sheep. Using Lenne's Rise to farm for runes to buy the bones is MUCH quicker. For me, it took 16% of the time to farm the runes as it did to farm the sheep. And that's even with picking up the bonus Glintstone Fireflies, too. (For my purposes at the time, I just counted the Fireflies as a bonus, but really, if I added in the time I would need to spend getting the Fireflies for fire arrows to the time spent farming sheep -- or if I did a test *without* picking up the FIreflies -- it would bring that 16% even lower.) That's the key, really -- the 150 runes per beast bone translates to 45 runes per arrow (for the base part of the arrow, before you add the magic bit), which sounds a bit pricy. BUT runes aren't the base currency you need to think of. You need to translate it to TIME. Then it makes more sense. Or another way of thinking of it is that runes are a lot cheaper once you have Lenne's Rise, where you can get 2000 runes in seconds any time you like, as many times as you like. The one exception is the basic, non-magic arrows. It makes more sense to just buy those for 20 runes than to make them for 45. And you will want some of those, to use to finish off enemies when you've already brought them low. Many times an enemy needs 1 or 2 power shot fire or magic arrow(s) and 1 regular arrow just to finish it off. So I tend to keep fire (usually) or magic (when I'm facing enemies that resist fire) in one slot and regular arrows in the other, and switch the regular to poison or even serpent arrows when going against most bosses (assuming the boss can be poisoned).
For the pinions, The Four Belfries site of grace is better IMO. As soon as you get up from the grace, you'll see three falcons right away on some rocks. Kill them, get the pinions, sit again, repeat. Fastest farm IMO.
@UraBless If you only care about flight pinions, then yes, that one will be better than the impassable greatbridge one, because the falcons/ eagles have a higher pinion drop rate than the penguins (whatever their actual name is - I always just remember that it sounds French). BUT I prefer the Caelid one because the penguins have a higher drop rate for fowl feet. So at that site, I'm getting plenty of pinions fast AND tons of fowl feet at the same time.
New to the game. Started a Vagabond. Would that class work for this build? I did the math and it seems like the area I would really miss out on is Arcane which I know effects discovery rate. But, is that really worth it or would this build be just as viable with the vagabond?
One thing I think fromsoft should focus on now is perfecting the bow combat in their next game since they have everything so far on point they got stuff like dark souls with it’s slow and strategical approach they got demon souls where you have to also make very strategic decisions then you have Bloodborne where you have to pretty much play like a maniac on coke. Then you have Sekiro where you literally need to unlock the ultra instinct and stand toe to toe with the likes of Jiren 😂 and then you have Elden ring where you learned all that from the previous from soft games and employ all these strategies into your own play style. I can’t wait to see what comes next from this studio!!!
Even worse than trying to do a bow only build is trying to do a crossbow only build lol, crossbows really got neglected this game. No jump shots, no rolling shots. You're completely restricted to the slow walking speed when shooting and reloading
What armour is your archer wearing in 00:40? I like it it looks pretty badass :). And what do you recommend in general regarding medium equip load vs light load?
Has anyone tried to make an actual magical archer build? One that uses bows and magic attacks/effects more evenly? Even if just a summoned sword or some aoe that deters enemies from approaching and then a bow for the rest... Idk maybe that would be too stat intensive
So basically saying range damage is dependent on what level your bow is? Cause I got 60 dex and 30 str and I hit quite hard but not as hard as I would like….
One really gotta wonder why they hate bows to much that they are completely neglected with most talismans, have bad base damage, shit scaling ... It's hard enough to hit enemies and players with them as it is, for god's sake, buff them!
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Hi @Fextralife. Loving your videos. You mentioned moving on to the level 100 builds but you haven't yet added the lvl 50 spellblade upgrade you mentioned in your enchanted knight video. Please don't forget this one! I built my character using your first spellblade guide and would love to upgrade it!
early game farming spots: for feathers, Murkwater coast = 5 birds round that one grace, very fast very easy.
for bones: south of Church of Pilgrimage in Weeping Peninsula, head towards the walking mausoleum towards the merchant in the south west, theres 5 herds to hunt inbetween those 2 loacations. Tonnes of bones in just a few runs taking a couple minutes each
adding white mask, bloodloss medalion and sepukku off hand gives +30% dmg for 20 sec, 1 sec for activation. also left hand royal knight resolve for +60% dmg for 10sec. shard of alexander boosts +15% dmg on ash of war works with bow ashes as well.
Nevermind I find it, it's awesome thanks!
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Maybe ask those damn minotaur snipers how the hell they are one shotting me from 300 yards away.
I hate them
They're using the great bows from infernoplus' DS1 mod, probably.
They are shooting God damn tree trunks at us thats why
@@daniellebelisle7590 so big its a blunt damage..
They use aimbots. FromSoftware needs to ban those cheaters
LETSSS GOOO I'VE BEEN CHECKING EVERYDAY SINCE THE ARCHER GUIDE FOR THIS. THANK YOU!
If you want to get spellcasting in too, Loretta's Greatbow would be a good sorcery for later in the game.
Aeonian Butterflies for Scarlet Rot are in the Abandoned Cave in Caelid (Dragonbarrow). Just use a dagger with quick step to dash to them. You don't need many to keep a stock and using Scarlet Rot plus Poison Arrows on bosses helps tremendously.
Quick tip: if you kill the gatekeeper at stormveil, he gives a bell earing giving access to buy stormhawk feathers at the roundtable hold
What would be a good flask combination for this build?
Is there a viable build for jar cannons? or hand ballista. Feel like reliving my monster hunter HBG days...
Does Arcane increase build up with arrows?
When endgame builds coming out?
Would it be possible to do a class with those giant bow?
they absolutely should show some love to bows and give them a buff
Yes, please!👏
@JL and a mage can do it better without needing to grind. Bows should be imho able to deal big amounts of damage per arrow and have at least decent scaling
@JL lol 10 hits...about 10 times as many hits as most other weapons
wdym? bows are op because of the diff kinds of arrow. try playing with sleep
@@b.r.h4088 You need to take in consideration that bow users can just shoot from far away from you. Meaning they can just kill you from far if you do not pay attention or roll good enough.
Too bad, I had hoped to play an Archer at some point, but this level of preparation looks just tedious. Great work as always with the build though, I'm impressed you even found a way to make this viable!
Once you are able to buy alot of different kinds of arrows it's not bad. Just go to one of the spots where you can farm alot of souls and just buy a massive supply
Having a blast with it around level 100
Great vid to save for reference 😉 thanks bud
Nothing good ever comes easy. I'm gunna put the effort in. You should go for it too
It's honestly not even that bad
Compliments for your dedication to this build, although I fear keeping this viable in all situations will be harsh. There are a lot of Lords, greater foes and dragons that will severely punish you for purely playing the spacing game.
Testing this build at lvl 100 and I have to say with rain of arrows there aren't any real troubles I haven't been able to overcome with the right status arrow.
Yeah but to be fair it's very easy to slot into some light weight melee weapon into the build that scales, and use that for those scenarios. And bleed (or any status) on arrows and same on a blade sounds pretty fun tbh.
@@vulkhanasennet9961 same here, i'm level 60ish and I think about 80% of the bosses I faced so far was defeated using bow and arrows like Radhan(nerfed version), Loretta, O'neil and some cave bosses. I just don't know how to deal with enemies that always have their shiled up, maybe use mighty shot? Does it perice defense? Or am thinking about through and through which is only for great bows.
Do you guys know whether it's worth including crossbows, greatbows and ballistas into this build later on? I'm really struggling with the amount of arrows.
Any other tricks/exploits that make bow-oriented builds viable lategame?
@@bjjwhitebelt5777 Shield enemies for me aren't troubling but tedious. It just takes longer for me to finish them
one thing of the archer build i enjoy is the hunting aspect. hunting for bones,blood,etc. gathering moss,etc. i like that.
@Calship66 Just buy them then.
@@AKoldborgAlxmir literally said "I like that" so why are you suggesting buying them? Did you misread the comment?
It's absurd how helpful this is, all the arrow farming locations especially jesus. Thanks
especially jesus
@@noobia5889 the holy damage is increased
I think a lightning faith build could be interesting.
Not just interesting. That's a staple build! Very very good
This please!
Lighting faith? Just use the lantern.
Doesn't the lighting infusion makes half dex half lighting damage with no faith? (genuinely asking cuz didn't know it scaled with faith)
@@nathanielpatterson6963 I think they meant "lightning." As in electric incantations.
The expertise that goes into these videos is incredible. Thanks for doing them :-)
Get's some things wrong here and there that's easy to look up but for the most part yeah. A lot of great work and dedication :)
One thing you keep forgetting to talk about is that bows with a D or higher scaling in Strength should be preferred as every bow will always give a 50% increase to your Strength stat due to their innate two-handedness.
It's also why you should focus into Strength early on as it scales up deceptively well until you reach 30 (45 when two-handed), at which point you should focus the rest into Dexterity (if it also has a D or higher scaling) to get the most bang for your levels.
I beat the game putting minimal points into strength/dex for my bow build, due to the atrocious scaling. I never thought about the double of the strength stat, thank you so much!
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It's not a doubling of the strength stat, but it's still quite strong; it's afaik the only way to reach 300+ AR on regular bows.
@@Brown95P This is the exact reason why I use the Jar Cannon. Even without the bow glitch (it having been patched at this point) it requires a Str of 34 to use, which is worth scaling to that point anyway because of the bow scaling. The bad thing is that the jar cannon doesn't scale with attributes
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The Jar Cannon's honestly overrated anyway; like yeah it's stronk and can penetrate enemies, but outside of that it's a greatbow (aka so loud enemies nearby are alerted) that's much slower and doesn't even have feathered bone ammo, so you need the arrow's reach talisman to make it remotely work.
'Sides, if you're gonna spend 30+ points in strength to use the jar cannon, then you might as well use a greatbow that requires that much and actually scales with it instead.
This only applies to the generic Shortbow, generic Greatbow, and the Pulley Bow.. The letter grades describe a whole range of scaling, with the real scaling value almost always being either objectively higher for Dexterity (Albinauric Bow), or the Strength scaling being exactly two thirds of the Dexterity scaling so they'll match either way (Black Bow). You can test this with negator13's AR calculator online.
To me the real message is we need bows to get some love. At lvl 350 my bow can be pretty mean but they should definitely get a power up
Wow I just converted my battle mage to this after realizing making my pure archer build was way too much grinding. So far it's great, the extra range to pull targets and hit with speed is incredible. Highly recommend.
Would you consider your archer build more viable than your mage build? Just curious because I want to make a ranged build but don't know which to choose.
@@aaroncrawford7884 I think mage based with bows later for extra help is best, but that's just me
Great tips for bows, I've really wanted to try an archer build but the scaling made me desist. I would love to see more leveled up classes video, I would really like to know your approach to a dragon lightning faith build, with all the lightning incantations and the bolt of gransax/dragon's king cragblade weapon arts!
There's another bow build I think could be viable into the later game. I use the serpent bow on my build that's basically Fextra's Blood Dragon but before it came out, and with a few tweaks. I think you get it from a cave in Caelid. It's the only bow in the game with Arc scaling, and it increases the application of poison. The item description says it makes all arrows apply poison, but I think that's a mistranslation because I've never gotten a poison proc with normal arrows. With Serpent arrows though, which can be purchased infinitely from the vendor behind Greyoll in Caelid, basically anything that can be poisoned will be after 2-3 shots, almost always 2
The dragon lightning incantations are easily cancelled by being hit once and you fall if you’ve jumped
And if you time it well they do decent damage but unless you’ve specd like 45-50 they only do minimal damage.
And I’m still trying to find out when faith sofcaps
@@justinjacobson7495 fellow archer here. Im also quite fond of the serpent bow and thanks to your comment I remembered that serpent arrows exists, with that in mind ill just focus on stocking up on blood loss arrows which works great with rain of arrows ash of war.
@@justinjacobson7495 Finally found someone who sees the light. Just left a long ass comment under the pinned comment about the serpent bow. This dudes previous video made me decide to play the bandit class so I could focus on range. The damage was okay with mighty shot and the composite bow. Once I switched to the serpent bow and started leveling arcane for blood loss it has been insane how well the serpent arrows work. I'm not even that high arcane yet. I thought it might be the only bow that scales with arcane. That's unfortunate but the poison procs so fast and is a great way to begin a fight even if you're not going to range the whole time. I love using the serpent bow and switching to dual reduvia daggers for crazy blood loss in close quarters.
@@bjjwhitebelt5777 I've been looking for a way to deal decent blood loss with a bow for some time. Been using the serpent bow for poison very effectively and my arcane is decent for getting the blood loss status going. But I haven't found any ash of wars for bows yet. Where can I find rain of arrows?
It'd be cool to see a double crossbow build too, and a dagger build
That reminds me of the Demon Hunter from Diablo 3
Use the hand ballista and any other crossbow of your choice
Thank you so much! I watched your prev guide about archers and followed it thoroughly. You're the goat of builds man.
Absolute love for this one, I very much enjoy a hunter gatherer experience in games and Elden Ring being able to have that is pure joy. Farming arrows is part of the experience. :D So thank you for this guide its a great how to on the baisics.
As I've been trying to make the Archer build works as well, that it is better to kill the Merchants, take their bells, and give them to the twin old lady, so that you can buy arrows, all in one spot. You might want to consider doing it, as keeping the Merchant NPCs alive, doesn't do anything for you anyway.
My problem is one of the merchants said something can happen.
@@TheBlakamon15 imagining a Little Sister situation from Bioshock 1. Kill a merchant and you just get killed at the end of the game
The merchants are one of my favourite NPC's in the game... Especially that musical instrument playing guy who managed to get to literal hell zone inside another hell zone.
@@soulghoul3234 Yeah right? I sweat and die numerously to get to Fromsoftware's 13th secret area in the game and there's already a homie playin a mean fiddle there? I love em
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Same. However, I cannot be bothered to keep trying to find the NPC that I found somewhere within the vast lands in Elden Ring. So... The hardest decisions requires the strongest wills.
Could arcane maybe boost arrows? I remember hearing someone say that it buffed consumables. If so, maybe an Arcane Archer would be good.
Well since arcane boosts poison and bleed it would probably work out pretty well if you can poison them quickly with arrows then proc bleed
@@drzonnked8923 ye decreases amt of arrows needed to proc, i plan on getting 30 arcane, got 14 from being bandit, currently level 128
@@Fr3shPoop just to clarify, if you level your arcane the status effects took less arrows to activate? Maybe this is a viable build!
@@GaryAlanRidgway not really, 15-30 arcane should be enough at the most and i wouldnt add onto it until past level 140, since bandit already starts with 14
you alreadyd have things like double air shot, barrage and rain of arrows to hit multiple arrows into an enemy, but yes, immunity is the factor which fights arcane, so if the enemy is stacked with immunity, it will take longer for buildup
They have added int scaling to the bow in the lastest patch! Unfortunately only E.. But still something, having this build scale with int somehow rather than strength sounds promising and more Magic Archery. Throw up some buff or defensive spells. You at least wanna get mind up eventually I suppose to spam more skills.
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I'm afraid you didn't explore all of your options when it comes to archery. You can make a completely viable mid-game pure archery build, and with only a little bit of time investment. Within a few hours and careful planning, you can be extremely powerful - especially against bosses. I recommend this for players who have experienced enough of the game that they're comfortable enough to do a lil' bit of early exploration. No melee. Here's what you need:
Black Bow (found in the Capital). Upgrade materials to +6 *Somber*
Greatbow (dropped in Atlus Plateau). Upgrade materials to +12 *Normal*. This is optional, as you have to grind for it. Hunt it or not, but it can be safely ignored as it's replaced by the Lion Greatbow.
After Radahn: Lion Greatbow. Upgrade materials off of Somber, but prioritize Black Bow.
Spoilers ahead. You've been warned.
>Level Range: Around 50 to really optimize this.
To begin: Pick Samurai, golden seed. You start with a bleed weapon and decent enough stats. Grab your horse and get moving. Move forward to Third Church of Marika, take the portal behind. Grab the Gold Seed, move to the lower bridge where the Calvary Knight spawns. Switch to night time. Jump on top of the giant root, and pop him with the long bow. He'll run around to the root side, but if not, convince him to. Lure him into the corner of the root, where the bridge meets the root, and he'll get stuck. Jump onto the bridge. Cheese him with arrows or until he falls off and dies. Collect souls. Level Vigor, grab 15 strength, and start pumping Dex up to at least 20. Move on to the fort. Speedrun for the Half Talisman of Dectus, and the Soreseal. Turn around, head south. Bleed the dragon to death. Grab a ton of runes. Max out basic arrows at a nearby vendor. Do a little horse exploration, grab Numen's Rune from the Tower of Caelid, along with all runes in the area - and then buy a shortbow. Usual material route to get it to around +6 or so, grab other half of the amulet from Fort Haight. Speedrun through Weeping Peninsula for Golden Seeds, grab the poison mist incant, buy as many Kukris as you wish from the Mourne Rampart vendor, then take the shortcut to Liurel. Seeds, unlock the lift, more seeds, grab seeds from outside capital, unlock merchant bonfire up top for Golden Arrows.
Cheese Margit and Godfrey with your normal shortbow. Ez pz, can summon if you're chicken. But with 40 vigor, it's really hard to die. Equip and activate Godrick's Great Rune. You now have the stats for Poison Mist. Head to outside the capital, top of the map, sneak around slowly behind the Draconic Tree Sentinel. With 6 azure flasks, poison mist him to death from behind for the ultimate 0 effort cheese. Takes 12 minutes or so, but you can afk while doing it to browse memes/youtube. Buy a variety of arrows with his runes, or get back on that level grind (I recommend stockpiling arrows). If you've unlocked the West Dragon bonfire north of Caelid, grab poison arrows by the dozen, along with some fire arrows in Central Caelid. Time check: Around 1:30 in, much less if you don't mess around with multiplayer.
Grab the key to the Academy, and grab your second great rune from the easy boss there. Enter the capital. Grab the black bow. Find, or buy, the upgrades to +5 black bow, then do the Caelid Crystal Mines dungeon for the +6. With this much progress, Radahn is available to fight. Surprisingly, he's super easy with arrows - poison him or hit him with Rot, maybe even make Rotbone arrows. The black bow works like a shortbow, and even has barrage - but has Longbow damage. Once you kill him (likely on your first try), make his greatbow. His weapon art is your crowd control.
Progress through the game and focus on leveling dex. You're now vastly overpowered, and you have a great crowd control bow, too. Be sure to drop the Soreseal later on for the Archery Talisman in Caelid, as the +10% damage done outweighs the stats late game. You're welcome.
These are great, but as per what he said at the start: The goal of these guides is to avoid making players go to later game areas/avoid spoiling parts of the game and preserve a sort of "natural progression" players can hit when just playing the game normally without all of these extra minmax cheese strats. :p
@@Ideataster That's why I listed it as more of an experienced player build. Additionally, this is definitely "mid-game" enough to justify it as a moderately experienced build. I think Dragonbarrow isn't too far off from a new player's perspective, and easy enough to do - if not recommended for the Golden Seeds alone. But first timers definitely shouldn't try this - it's not organic. I didn't include Volcano Manor to reach a super high tier, either - though I totally should have. Really, this is more so a "I've made a character, got moderately far - and want to try a better build."
@@SariatheFrostMage could you do a short build for beginners too? I started a vagabond class but I don't feel it comfortable honestly I never played a game like this but I played wow before and I had a shadow priest which I was kinda op in pve and pvp. Is there any class I can play with in a similar role like in wow as a shadow priest? I also had hunter but I can't decide the bandit or the samurai would be better for me. It is difficult because I don't want to waste time but I am kinda lost in this game 😅
How are you getting Rotbone arrows before Radahn?
@@ExtremeBoyheat You can purchase the Nomadic Warrior's Cookbook (15) in Caelid. You'll find it on the southern, central half of Caelid's map, directly beneath the rotten lake - inside of the upside triangle part of the roads, sold by a nomadic merchant for 4k runes.
Additionally, you can find the Bone Peddler's Bell in the Warmaster's Shack, which is East of Stormveil Castle. If you exhaust the Warmaster's dialogue and buy a few weapon arts, if you pass time until night - then rest again - an optional boss called the Bellbearing Hunter will appear where the Warmaster is typically idle. He's a tough fight in any of the four locations he spawns, but if you keep your distance and always roll his attacks, you'll melt him.
Finally, you don't *really* need a greatbow. It's just for openers and stagger in PvE, or knockback in PvP. The black bow will carry you through the whole game. I recommend that if you intend to do pure bow, keep in mind that the Black Bow is a D/D scaling weapon - but also always requires two hands to fire, and thus will benefit off of 1.5x strength (you can confirm this with any greatbow you lack the strength for - 2handing at 15 strength will give you enough power for Radhan's Lionbow). At 27 strength, wielding a bow in both hands will give you 40 effective strength - thus you don't need to invest as harshly into it as you do Dex. So you have a little more wiggle room for other points - I recommend either some AoE spells, or personally, I would go with Beastial Faith Spells and minor buffs. Since you have only a minor amount of wiggle room, and a fair amount of strength (27 on one hand), you'll find you get the most mileage there.
My stat recommendations are going to include whatever armor you're planning to wear, so if it gives stats, include that.
40 vigor minimum (spare points goes here)
18 mind (if you have no plans for support spells/minor aoe, you can leave this at base)
30 endurance (heavier armor is better, and this is a great place to start)
27 strength (this is non-optional. You are a quality build with 27 strength/40 dex)
40 dex (non-optional)
Base Int (Int spells require a lot of investment for payoff, I would avoid these)
27 Faith (gives you enough faith for most of the spells, without being a massive point hog. Optional.)
If you don't do faith, put those levels into other stats, or Arcane. You should cap out around level 120, which is usually the agreed level for Elden Ring PvP.
I think they will have to re-balance the bows. They cost to much or take to much time to craft and then they don't do much damage.
The bows work as a weapon to take out enemies out at range so you do not have to fight a whole group. The bows work for this. It very easy to have whole arrow collection by mid game because you can buy arrows and bones from merchant. What they need to do is boost the scaling of the bows.
I think they're being careful with bows (and always have been), because if the game is super doable with bows, a lot of bosses aren't balanced around such long range. Making it a challenge seems like a compromise to me. I have a feeling that late game bows are pretty damn strong though.
@@keeganbate8935 Most bosses strafe to the left and right. It is very easy to miss bow shots when you lock on to an enemy. There is too many cons then pros for using bows as primary. They need to least give bow a c scaling.
@@TheBlakamon15 you make great points, I'm unable to have great insight into this since I haven't used bows personally, just providing general thoughts
@@keeganbate8935 Yeah there is so many things that lower the damage of bows. Faster bows work better up close while med to long bows do more damage but slower at range. This is because arrows have fall off damage so you cannot be too far without losing damage. Most scaling of bows is so low that you cannot get a lot of bonus damage from stats. You have to make or buy a lot arrows but it easy to lose a lot of arrows. Enemies can just walk left and then right for you to miss your shots when auto lock. It takes a lot of work to use a bow but it much easier to use throwing knives and they scale better and do better damage.
Would love to see builds for later in the game like lvl ~100
unfortunately , throughout all souls games, bows have always been created for the purpose of being a supplementary weapon to pull mobs from packs and do a little damage for a tactical advantage between your preferred melee or magic attacks. Would be nice to finally see some real recognition of what bows COULD be in a game that is broad and diverse in it's arsenal like Elden Ring. The builds that bow gameplay could offer would be incredibly fun and satisfying.
In demon souls bows were fucking amazing you could one shot everything
Yeah, but in DS 1 and 2 you could carry a shit ton of arrows. Not only that, but there were also some very cheap arrows that you could buy from the beginning of the game, so it made doing bow-only runs very easy, or at least not as tedious as in Elden Ring.
You don't have to wait for the bell bearer. After changing to night. Just sit at the grace again and he will spawn. You have to walk into the shack for him to spawn though
What would be the optimal stats for this type of build?
It really depends on what sort of bow you end up maining. For example, the Lion Greatbow from Radahn's remembrance is a quality bow, while the Horn bow here scales with Intelligence and dexterity. You could also farm up a golem's greatbow pretty early, which is a nice strength scaling bow. I would say maybe pick the bow you want to use based on the off hand melee weapon you might want to support it. Beyond that, I would say Endurance is a good stat as you consume huge quantities of stamina, particularly if you are going for a rapid fire playstyle using animation cancels with jumps/rolls.
@@lolgooglesuckstv8682 Yeah thats my bad, I picked the bow up later myself and realized that. I could have sworn it had Int scaling, but it only requires a bit of int.
Thank You, Cas. Been great watching the Live Stream of ya putting this together. Very helpful compilation. - Happy Gaming, Fextra Community!
I was excited a more dex/int build utilizing the black bow and Lorettas Great bow spell. I use the rot/bleed arrows to get the procs and the Magic arrow to deal massive damge
Same
Have a build guide?
@@LeagueofLegends24 no build guide lol but I started as bandit used short bow that I eventually made magic then found horn bow early and just used that. Moved on to lorretas greatbow spell after the boss is cairn manor and use that with rogiers rapier and horn bow with magic and bleed arrows depending on situations. Next build will be 100% greatbow/ballista!
Where to get the rot/bleed arrows?
I would love to see a build around the dark moon (moonlight) greatsword. I've been using it a lot but struggle to understand its scaling and how to build around it properly
Just do Int scaling. Awaken your sword and spam heavy attack.
Love watching these videos even though I can't play the game 🤣
Went astrologer but you can run out of fp so the bow tricks are helping staying distant.
You have no idea how fitting this build is for me, aaaa! I've literally been looking up 'magic archers' everywhere but couldn't find anything comprehensive, so imagine my glee when I saw you post a dedicated video for it!
I'm actually mostly playing as a mage but carrying a short bow as a secondary weapon for whenever I run out of FP, so this magic archer is absolutely perfect for my life! Thanks so much! Also, can't wait for your updated mage build!
I've built a Magic Archer build on day 1, if you have any questions you can send me a message. I totally understand how you feel and was beginning to think I was literally the only person with the build lol
@@sk0omaalters96 that's so awesome of you! For mine, I'm mostly just dabbling on archery as a backup skill set (I'm going for int/fait) whenever I run out/need to conserve FP from using spells. Having said that though, I'm curious as to how much Int you have on yours, and how you utilize the "magic" aspect of the build? Since I have little to no points going into str/dex, I'm looking for ways to amplify the damage of my bow with the mage stats that I have.
@@GianJurado I went a lot more in on the magic aspect. This build he has posted isn’t really a “magic archer”, it’s just an archer build that uses a bow with a little magic damage on it lol. Think of mine as a “Spellblade” but instead of the blade part I use bows
@@sk0omaalters96 yes! That's exactly what I want to go for too! Really curious about the stats you're playing with. Also, any tips on the most optimal bow and arrows to use? Any skills you rely on?
The Boulder xp farm has the glittering firefly's along the path to the spawn point..
Quick way to spawn bell bearing hunters is to rest at the grace and pass time to night, then stand up from the grace and rest again. The second rest at the grace will reset the area and make the bell bearing hunter spawn when you approach.
@Fextralife I have a question regarding blood arrows. Does the Arcane stat increase the bleed build up (as well as other status build up) on arrows the same as it does on melee weapons? I've invested into arcane for bloody slash on a twin blade with bleed procs but wanted to incorporate this archer build into it by using status procs from the arrows.
no unfortunately not. the only bow that scales with your arcane is the Serpent Bow, faster poison procs.
I always role as archers. It's good to know that it's even possible to do so in Elden Ring at all. Thank you!
Its terrible af tho, bows need like 3x dmg buff.
Can't wait for the endgame builds. I'm holding back my paladin just to don't waste runes, meanwhile I'm just using them to buy upgrade materials and recepe/items
When a bow fires a arrow the game considers it a "bullet" the only way to increase the AR of these types is a overall AR increase such as the following talismans:
1. Kindred of the rotten exultation: 20% ar increase once poisoned within 7m of the poison happening
2. Sword insignia: raises overall AR if hp is a maximum
3. Lord of blood exultation: 20% AR increase if bleed is active within 7m of it procing
Names might be wrong so sorry but these three will increase arrow damage. There are more as well
I like farming and crafting, I find it relaxing and I am in no rush.
You actually can skip time. Just not at that site. Skip time at a different grace then port to the shack. He'll be there
Switch to night. Stand up. Sit down. He is there
14:31 What about Jarburg? I found a ton of poisonblooms there, plus you don't have to slog through poison to reach them.
Winged and rotten sword insignia should def work with bows..that's pretty whack
massive supply of poisonbloom in Jarburg! easy respawn, horse available, and zero enemies!
Easier way to farm poison arrows is the waypoint ruins. There is a site of grace there after you clear out the boss, and the plan enemy upstairs drops 5 poisonbloom every time guaranteed. You don’t have to worry about poison either so close to the grace. The other small plants also have a chance to drop poisonbloom and it’s accessible earlier on than tombsward cave.
In order to make the Bell Bearing Hunter spawn faster, do the following: Go to said bonfire, pass time to night. Stand up from the bonfire, sit down again. When you now leave the bonfire, the Bell Bearing Hunter should show up.
This was helpful, thank you!
Dear God there is just so much build verity in this game, God I wanna try it
You won't be disappointed!
This is my new favorite channel. I wonder if there’s a way you could do a very good combination intelligence and faith build?
That's actually the next build xD
@@Fextralife I AM A PROPHET!!! BEHOLD MY POWERS OF PREDICTION AND DESPAIR! Also yay thanks! Can’t wait to see.
I’ve been rocking the Serpent Bow with my Dex/Arcane build and it seems to do really well :)
That's the first thing I thought about doing an Archer character. Specially when you can get Mighty Shot art early on, and apply to almost any bow.
Useful, thanks. Jarburg might be a good location for flowers as well. I think it has both poisonblooms and bloodroses and in a small area.
Been really enjoying this build, its pretty fun! There's a merchant that sells you fire arrows btw, for 120runes an arrow, pricey
Where?
I wish there was a carian slasher version of Loretta's greatbow. I guess glinstone shard, but it doesn't have the bow shaped cool factor. Maybe an art of war for regular bows that uses fp to make magic arrows.
Blue dancer charm + magic scorpion charm + ritual sword talisman + warrior jar shard
Then in your flask, throw on the one that increases magic damage.
Maybe even go up to 20 int and grab Terra Magica. Really boost your magic damage.
I would consider throwing on Loretta's greatbow on a late game build, too.
Scaling on bows is terrible anyhow, mix a str/int build so you can have some spell utility. STR will be more efficient to put points into than dex because you have to 2 hand the bow anyways. Cast a couple magic glintblades and pull out your bow to shoot them at the same time. Sounds like a fun build to me.
That is actually a really great setup.
What about Leo's Ring? Or whatever it's called in this game... Increased Pierce damage when enemy is attacking. Does that work on bow?
Bows have always been underrepresented in From Soft games, relegated to aggro pulls and niche enemies. I just play Skyrim for my archery fixes.
I like skyrim and dragons dogma for archery personally and I'm hoping to do at least some archery
Fextra is a madman with these builds, they just keep coming! What will the maniac do next!
This is a great channel! I only caught sight of you folks in recent times, but it’s now among my favourite channels.
Welcome aboard!
having this build for the whole game is basically impossible just saying
why?
Not really? Run a greatbow for bosses. I use the Lion Great bow and that does massive damage, was able to solo Malenia and Placidusax with it.
Really love ur videos but dont wanna grind that much but i tried all ur build cant seem to find one i like the most because like them made differents alt and used the cheesy boss strategy to level up equal to ur lv and try them out its fun but i really want a build wich uses the lighting spear spell cuz that spell hurts a ton
If you see this i had a question, should the Magic Arrow being doing more Damage over the Regular Arrows you can buy from a merchant? Noticing the regular arrows do more damage except against certain enemies when doing Mighty Shot with the Horn Bow
I knew a man "BowJangles", and he danced for you
In worn out shoes ~great guide again, thanks :)
Maybe this build should incorporate the Loretta's greatbow/mastery to be the damage dealer, and use the "physical" bows the complement
Your dedication has inspired me! I can feel your love for this game in all parts of this video. This really inspired me, thx a lot for this video!
I shall try and make an endgame PvP bow build with this and prolly cry myself to sleep after the first three fights but hey, I'm rly hyped right now! ^^
So not sure if this would fit the bow build but there is an arm cannon that uses great bolts. It’s scales from STR and hits.. well like a cannon. It’s very slow to load and heavy but can give you a great starter shot to take a ton of an enemies hp. I forget the name of the weopon but it ms a large Jar found it in a cave in Mt Gulmir
Jar Cannon
Bows need a better scaling 👀
to make the boss show up at the warmast shack you just have to make it night and the fast travel to the same location
When do u plan on uploading late game building cuz yesterday i finished my 1st gameplay and would like to try some late game builds
Listen to the end of the video.
Mage/Archer build was what I have been working towards to keep things at a distance. Great videos mate cheers.
Anyone else not have Elden Ring but still watch all these vids? 😅
I appreciate the work you put in, but my god does a bow style look abysmally boring.
I've found it impossible to PURELY be a bow user and stay viable late game. That said, making liberal use of multiple bows with different ashes in your build and an appropriate weapon for your build is rife potential, notably in invasions.
For my case, I am a Dexterity/Intelligence build with Moon Veil as my melee armament. My bows are Horned Bow with the Enchanted Shot ash of war and the Albinauric Bow with the Rain of Arrows ash of war. I also have Staff of Loss as a left hand armament and Lusat's Staff on one of my right hand slots, one for casting support spells like Terra Magica and one for damage, specifically for Loretta's Sorceries as I will count those as bows, mostly useful for bosses. My talisman load is as follows; Shard of Alexander, Magic Scorpion, Arrows Reach, and Arrows Sting, the first two being just as useful for Moon Veil as it is Horn Bow. I am also wearing the White Reeds armor set with no headpiece. I carry all of this with just 20 endurance and still maintain a medium weight load, and I can make myself light with a Winged Crystal Tear, my other tear obviously being the Magic Cracked Tear.
Level: 150
25 Vigor
20 Endurance
66 Dexterity
60 Intelligence
And I am actually questioning if I should remove 5 points of vigor and throw that into dex, because I already one shot a lot of people with Moon Veil because they try to take advantage of a bow's weakness, especially those rushing in with River's of Blood if they aren't using an Uplifting Aromatic.
My use of Moon Veil can be summarized as this, or I'd want to believe it as such.
"You use Moon Veil to run up and assault me, I use Moon Veil when you run up to assault me, we are not the same". To me, Moon Veil feels even more fun to use in an all or nothing gambit when arrows can't get the job done, or perhaps, when the arrows are doing their job. With some practice, aside from Horn Bow arrows homing on targets to pressure opponents, you can use rain of arrows as they attempt to hide behind cover to hopefully flush them out. Do it all right and they will want to rush you, which you can either run away and shoot or prepare your Moon Veil for the decisive attack or attacks. Running away towards monster mobs is also a good option if it's available, and it's even easier to hit with arrows when your opponent is focused on avoiding the maw of a giant deformed canine, and I would recommend this approach for any hosts that you see are wearing notably heavy armor sets that you understand can't be obliterated by Moon Veil's Ash of War or you're seeing very liberal use of Bloodhound Step, which is another reason to suggest the Winged Crystal Tear in your physick bottle.
This leads me to a question, if I want more places to invade where I can use overworld enemies to assist me, SHOULD I jump to NG+? Or will I drastically reduce the pool of players I can invade in the process? I personally don't like the idea of invading Liurnia or Limgrave knowing that all the monsters can be one or two shot out of existence and then have a bunch of people message me to tell me to invest in vigor like it is gospel as they run around places in co-op for no other reason than to invite invaders to squat and tea-bag over. My most successful invasions have always been in late game areas with either tough enemies or limited movement like the Haligtree Canopy.
Any possible way to fold this Magic Archer build in with the Moonveil Samurai build? Like, a magic Moonveil Archer Samurai???
I think that bows are in a better place in Elden Ring when compared to previous Souls games, but I'm not sure they are intended to be unaccompanied by other sources of damage (like having a sword/spear backup). You kind of have to mix things when wanting to focus heavily on bow/crossbows, which is something I have no issue with.
Thought the magic archer would he like DD:DA... sad... you can't even use Mana to make magical projectiles.
it seems that almost everything in this game is geared towards mindless oneshot jump attacks. claw talisman says "increases damage of jump attack" it doesnt say "melee jump attack" this should work with ALL attacks performed WHILE in the air. if i cast Beastial Sling while in the air, claw talisman should be activated. if i jump and throw a bone throwing knife, claw talisman should be active. im getting sick of this game. everything but copy paste builds in pvp. because of bullshit like this.
So are you respec-ing into this or are you starting out with a strength build? The reason I ask is by level 50, with the Archer starter build in your previous video, you would have good vigor and possibly endurance (for better armor) and then pumping up Dex. But this magic build is only increasing Dex to the limits of the bow and then increasing Strength instead. Could you clarify please?
dude this builds been at the back of my mind for some time now
Bow builds should never be considered for 1st run completions. They are challenge run builds. Like you said, the scaling, materials, and equipment just aren"t there until NG+ and on.
It's just not meant to work. From really needs to fix the scaling on a lot of weapons, there is not a good balance at all. Even the Black Bow is still D scaling, and that was traditionally an S DEX bow. I've been watching Phemeto do his playthrough as bow only and it's slow going, lots of farming for part or ruins to buy arrows, every boss takes 3 times as long to beat. He posted videos showing it's not impossible, but it's gonna be painful. Best bow to use is the Golem Greatbow, it has the highest scaling out of every bow in the game and it's in STR, it's better than Radhan's even, which is bonkers that a boss weapon should ever have worse stats than a regular bow.
I love your videos
my favourite arrow is the normal arrow with the basic long bow ....gets the job done....also check my video on malenia less then 1 min ,level 131 quality build
Elden Ring really just added bows and their ash of wars to check a box. They put very little effort into them and it’s so easy to make them viable by just having them scale.
I don't understand why they wouldn't just add proper scaling to bows? It's not like it would be OP and would easily open up more options for players. And more ashes of war, like maybe option to shotgun 3 arrows at once or something that spreads out the longer the range which would be a decent swap for barrage etc.
Bows were just left in the dark again, which is weird because they bothered with the crafting etc?
i got 2 lazuli swords but the INT required is 20, i made a astrologer, and farmed it on the mob right before the classroom grace in Raya Lucaria, anyone knows if its a bug on the tooltip, im playing on Series S
My favorite place for flight pinions is the same SOG in Caelid where you get the Arrow's Reach talisman - the Impassable Greatbridge. There are 3 of the little penguin-type birds there just a couple feet from the SOG so it's SUPER quick to kill, rest (better yet, fast travel -- unless you're using a fowl foot, in which case you want to rest rather than travel), repeat. I use Glintstone Arc, with which I can kill all 3 birds in one hit -- just takes a little practice getting the right distance / spot and being able to sneak up without frightening them. You can also use Whirl, O Flame! the same way, but I think Glintstone Arc works better and more reliably for getting them all at once, or you can use Glintstone Pebble or Flame Sling to get them one at a time, and with a little practice you won't scare the others away (I think Flame Sling works best for that). I like using those birds because they also have a high rate of dropping Fowl Feets.
Occasionally I also farm the Warhawks by Rampart Tower in Stormveil Castle, but those have such a low drop rate they get depressing. I use Glintstone Pebble to kill those, and I think it's more efficient to just get the first 3 and skip the fourth one that's behind the building at the end. Using spells to kill the birds lets you NOT use your precious arrows, and is obviously more efficient than using arrows to make arrows.
If your build is more Faith than Intelligence, you can use the Staff of the Guilty for your occasional Sorcery -- it uses Faith rather than Intelligence. You can get that by farming the one fire monk who stands outside the fire monk village up in Liurnia by the Eastern Tableland SOG. The monk in question is just to the west of the village. There are also several fire slugs around that village, so you can use that area for farming smouldering butterflies, too, and 3 birds just north of the monk, so you can pick up a few flight pinions each iteration as well. And even a handful of sheep, so you can grab some bones while you're at it. Great farming area. Plus, you can raid that village itself once for the Flame, Cleanse Me enchantment, which is VERY helpful all around Caelid, and in particular for getting through the Abandoned Cave, where you can pick up the Serpent Bow. (Which I know isn't part of the particular build in the video, but others will definitely want to consider as an option, or as an addition. My own preference is Serpent Bow until I can get the Black Bow later in the game.)
Before I started using the Eastern Tableland for farming Smouldering Butterflies, I used to Liurnia Lake Shore merchant. He just has 1 Butterfly (sometimes 2) at his campfire, but he also has several other crafting materials right there (mushroom, fruit, flower) and 3 birds, so I would pick up all those items, rest & repeat, and wind up with my inventory full of several things. Any extra crafting materials, you can sell for runes, so it never hurts to grab extra when you have a chance. Seems like most of my smithing, merchant purchases, and the like tend to be paid for half with excess crafting materials.
For Poisonblooms, the best place is Waypoint Ruins. Use the SOG in the Cellar. Run upstairs, kill the big flower, kill the small ones, go round the corner to where there are 2 more small flowers in a narrow hallway and get those, fast travel back to the SOG and repeat. Very quick, 5-7 Poisonblooms each iteration.
For roses, the rose church: Use the Fallen Ruins on the Lake SOG just to the east, gallop over, and just where you hit the rose church island, turn left and there are 2 small poison flowers you can kill for the occasional Poisonbloom. Hop up from there toward the church (/center of the island) and grab the crystal bud on your left. Turn due north and go a few feet -- just off the coast of the island is the first Bloodrose. Then trot into the church and grab the rose from the middle of the church first, then turn to the right and get 1 or 2, then turn left and get the ones closest to the entrance, then I think about 3 more along that left side farther from the entrance, and as you get those the invader enemy will be spawning in beside you, so jump over him to grab the final rose from behind him and run out of the church and away back toward the SOG in the east, or just run around the perimeter of the island, until the game releases you from combat mode and lets you fast travel the rest of the way to the SOG. Repeat. (Or yeah, you can let the enemy kill you.) You get 9-10 roses each round.
For Glintstone Fireflies for magic arrows -- and I can't believe you didn't mention this place! -- the best place is Lenne's Rise over in Caelid. You can get there as early in the game as you like -- take the teleporer from behind the 3rd church of Marika to the Bestial Sanctum, run down the road to the Farum Greatbridge SOG, take the path off to the left/east and run down on your horse across the smaller/lower bridge (you will hit poison traps but just keep running until you hit the Lenne's Rise SOG). You can farm the ball that rolls down the hill there (check RUclips for how, of course) and on each round, grab several Glintstone Fireflies. I tend to go there whenever I've got about halfway or so to the next level and run out of things I can easily do without risking my increasing number of runes to an inconvenient death. I farm until I can level up, and I wind up with hundreds of spare Glintstone Fireflies in the process. And a few (I think faded?) Erdleaf Flowers, too.
I also did a test on farming for runes to buy beast bones vs. farming for sheep. Using Lenne's Rise to farm for runes to buy the bones is MUCH quicker. For me, it took 16% of the time to farm the runes as it did to farm the sheep. And that's even with picking up the bonus Glintstone Fireflies, too. (For my purposes at the time, I just counted the Fireflies as a bonus, but really, if I added in the time I would need to spend getting the Fireflies for fire arrows to the time spent farming sheep -- or if I did a test *without* picking up the FIreflies -- it would bring that 16% even lower.) That's the key, really -- the 150 runes per beast bone translates to 45 runes per arrow (for the base part of the arrow, before you add the magic bit), which sounds a bit pricy. BUT runes aren't the base currency you need to think of. You need to translate it to TIME. Then it makes more sense. Or another way of thinking of it is that runes are a lot cheaper once you have Lenne's Rise, where you can get 2000 runes in seconds any time you like, as many times as you like.
The one exception is the basic, non-magic arrows. It makes more sense to just buy those for 20 runes than to make them for 45. And you will want some of those, to use to finish off enemies when you've already brought them low. Many times an enemy needs 1 or 2 power shot fire or magic arrow(s) and 1 regular arrow just to finish it off. So I tend to keep fire (usually) or magic (when I'm facing enemies that resist fire) in one slot and regular arrows in the other, and switch the regular to poison or even serpent arrows when going against most bosses (assuming the boss can be poisoned).
For the pinions, The Four Belfries site of grace is better IMO. As soon as you get up from the grace, you'll see three falcons right away on some rocks. Kill them, get the pinions, sit again, repeat. Fastest farm IMO.
@UraBless If you only care about flight pinions, then yes, that one will be better than the impassable greatbridge one, because the falcons/ eagles have a higher pinion drop rate than the penguins (whatever their actual name is - I always just remember that it sounds French). BUT I prefer the Caelid one because the penguins have a higher drop rate for fowl feet. So at that site, I'm getting plenty of pinions fast AND tons of fowl feet at the same time.
New to the game. Started a Vagabond. Would that class work for this build? I did the math and it seems like the area I would really miss out on is Arcane which I know effects discovery rate. But, is that really worth it or would this build be just as viable with the vagabond?
One thing I think fromsoft should focus on now is perfecting the bow combat in their next game since they have everything so far on point they got stuff like dark souls with it’s slow and strategical approach they got demon souls where you have to also make very strategic decisions then you have Bloodborne where you have to pretty much play like a maniac on coke. Then you have Sekiro where you literally need to unlock the ultra instinct and stand toe to toe with the likes of Jiren 😂 and then you have Elden ring where you learned all that from the previous from soft games and employ all these strategies into your own play style. I can’t wait to see what comes next from this studio!!!
Even worse than trying to do a bow only build is trying to do a crossbow only build lol, crossbows really got neglected this game. No jump shots, no rolling shots. You're completely restricted to the slow walking speed when shooting and reloading
Is lazuli pronounced differently in the US? I've always heard it said (phonetically) 'laz-uew-lie'.
What armour is your archer wearing in 00:40? I like it it looks pretty badass :). And what do you recommend in general regarding medium equip load vs light load?
Has anyone tried to make an actual magical archer build? One that uses bows and magic attacks/effects more evenly? Even if just a summoned sword or some aoe that deters enemies from approaching and then a bow for the rest... Idk maybe that would be too stat intensive
So basically saying range damage is dependent on what level your bow is? Cause I got 60 dex and 30 str and I hit quite hard but not as hard as I would like….
One really gotta wonder why they hate bows to much that they are completely neglected with most talismans, have bad base damage, shit scaling ... It's hard enough to hit enemies and players with them as it is, for god's sake, buff them!