Back in the seventies and eighties, I used to go solo hiking out west to seek out Tinajas , seeps, tanks and wells. I never told locations of my quests because I'd found that the more people who knew about a place, the more it got trashed. I've got good memories of places and things I never told about. I'm very happy you are doing much the same. I didn't have youtube, so I didn't post pics or videos back then. I might now, but just as respectfully as you do. Thank you for your respect of these ancient places. At seventy, I probably won't be going on quests anymore. Thanks for taking me along on your quests.
Thanks again! We appreciate you actually DOING this. If someone else loots that pottery, it wasn't you, & it won't be me. Thanks for putting your heart into this work. Positive waves, keep it up.
Thank you for sharing such a gorgeous find! One of the best pieces I have seen lying out on the Earth. Thank you for being so respectful of this and the area it is in, protecting it from those that would not be as respectful. Honor to you!
That is amazing. I grew up in Virginia and as kids we would find trenches and forts in the woods left over from the war that had never been touched so I know the feeling. Most of those places are housing and apt now. They would flatten the forts before any one knew move graveyards just awful stuff. Preservation is key.
Thanks for sharing Jeff...there is a fine line between preservation and looting...unfortunately many humans are driven by greed and they can't resist digging...I've been a student of archeology for over 50 years..specifically the peopling of America...and had it not been for surface collecting..we would have many gaps in our understanding..guess there still is. That said...NAGPRA laws are just that...LAWS. and I obey them even if I don't always agree with them. Even if no one else ever sees it in the wild...you have preserved it with your video. I'm a huge fan of your channel . Well done
🤔 Seems to me, wayyy to many of these artifacts, sit in side of museums, or colleges and haven't seen the light of day, since they were collected. THAT is not right, nor good. Neither is stealing them and hording or selling them.
I am an archeologists in South Africa. I have 30 years of work behind me. I share your sentiment and views 200%. Nevertheless, when a piece like that is found, I would rather it being preserved than left out to go to ruin eventually. There are shards and other large pieces which must be left undisturbed. But a piece like that can be placed in a museum. Anyway, how many viewers might now geolocate it and go take it? Regards!
@@01Lenda I have worked with a couple of museums over the years...and it's true. Many well intentioned folks donate entire collections of artifacts...believing they are contributing to a greater understanding of ancient cultures...but in fact..many museums are inundated by the shear numbers of donations..and most are never exhibited... these artifacts are often sold to the public after de-acquistion.
@@sneb1224 I agree. Here in the US...had it not been for surface collecting...so much would have been lost to the plow..or covered over by urban sprawl. Some of the finest examples of ancient human artifacts are in private hands..unfortunately many lack provenance and are not of scientific value and become examples of art.
Before watching the video, I just wanted to pause and thank you for protecting this sensitive area. So many creators only care about content, but you have managed to both protect the area and create some excellent content. As always of course.
The bowl piece hasn't been there very long. Someone or something put it there. Notice how there is nothing in the bowl?, It's not stained, and how it is sitting on top of organic debris? That means it's only been out in the open for a short amout of time. It doesn't look it has been rained on yet. Also, if it had been there for a long time, it would be sunbaked and it hasn't been exposed to the sun for very long. An armadillo probably dug it up from under a large rock at some point. Badger and armadillo holes are good places to find artifacts because they dig them up.
Probably the grad student in charge of monitoring the emails doesn’t give a damn and is lazy. People tend to have a little too much respect for academics, not realizing that at least half of them obtain their PhD‘s because they had no idea what they wanted to do in life when they grew up. An awful lot of your university and college professors figured that they could get societal respect, “intellectual challenge“ whatever that means, and a moderately decent income if they became university professors. Far too many of them substitute arrogance for a desire to learn and discover - they would rather write journal articles essentially debating how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin rather than do anything with substantive merit, such as teach, educate students, and discover something new. Don’t get me wrong, there are some people who went into academics for all of the correct reasons, love of teaching, a love of discovery and learning and a fascination with their subject matter. I’ve had some excellent professors in college and grad school. But I’ve also had just as many that arrogantly hid behind obscure vocabulary and pseudo intellectualism rather than come up with something worthwhile to teach, probably because they had no genuine substantive accomplishments in their careers. I know a number of academics and university departments are far too often not open-minded places of intellectual discovery, but close minded, old boy networks where Women or academics who excel at capturing their students’ attention are discriminated against and do not receive tenure. Ditto for those who want to think and research outside of the box.
@@elysofly@_umi_says It's called Conquest and has been repeated over a million times since the beginning. Stop acting like it was just horrible, rotten American/s. That's what you get in a Fallen, Godless world who turned their backs on their Creator and Savior. If you have turned your back to Him, you, too, are part of the problem. Wake up!
The grinding marks on the stone are likely not places that someone ground seeds or grain or corn... but where they sharpened their stone axes. Most places (not all) that food sources are ground down, are more flat and level. Because it is VERY HARD to grind food on a sloped surface ... but it is preferable on a sloped surface to sharpen an ax head. All stone ax heads are shaped before lashing to a handle. And most handles are made from green willow or harder wood and wrapped or lashed in rawhide or bark fiber. A stone ax is harder to maintain the shapes once it is mounted to a handle, and the ax head might be mounted on several different handles until it is worn out completely and tossed away into a trash pile. These people were very good craftsmen and survivors. They were also NOT "ancestral puebloans", because the PUEBLO people were already living in pueblos and larger communities for over 1000 years before the cliff dwelling people began building and living in these defensive places. That bowl likely broke during use and was just left there. Or, it might have been a place of burial, a place where the people there were taken captive or killed by the Anasazi raiders and cannibals. It's hard to say. It's just a broken bowl. Just like when we have broken dishes in our day, we throw them away and they end up in the landfill. Back then, you have a culture that is deeply connected to the earth. And their belief then is as it is now... It came from the earth, and it returns to the earth, and there it must stay. Violating that law, brings calamity upon the law breaker.
RESPECT always to YOU and those that came before! Thanks Jeff, although the video was something a little different than your norm, it was still quite interesting, which is why we are all here.!! ✔️
Thank you for sharing your finds and also speaking about respecting the ones who came before us and leaving those finds exactly where they are. Great episode.
That pot is hypnotic, the pattern is amazing. Have you ever thought that someday you might find a pot completely intact? I'd love to see that video. Thanks for the trip, stay safe.
Woww! Incredible! PEOPLE, please if you know where this is, don't divulge any hints or clues in the comment section. Enjoy the video, and let it live. 🙌
That bowl was in such fantastic condition! You are correct it's the kind of thing they put in a glass display case somewhere. I hope nobody steals it for their own collection. It's absolutely gorgeous! So about the whole "my wife's family" Congratulations on getting married! You really out to share at least one wedding photo! We are all happy for you 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Of the unusual stones you encountered, the jade green rock looks like a polishing stone for pottery. So intriguing to see the beautiful handmade bowls and other items crafted hundreds of years ago and still beautiful today. Thanks for sharing and for taking us along on your journey. Stay safe out there.
In 1982 I took a job as a janitor. We were told to wax the floors in this huge building. I think it was off N. stone Ave in Tucson. It was about 2 acers in size. I opened a door and there was draws up 6' and then shelves for 15' to the ceiling there was Indian pots ,baskets matata's. all the draws were full of scrapers arrow heads. carved stone, any thing you could see in a museum or anything you could imagen, millions and millions of items. there was an office aria and on the desks were Indian pots being used for candy dishes and pencil holders. These people are just looters, imagen if they let you see what they took home. It's all for them to loot but not you. I found a lot of stuff before the criminals in charge made it illegal. As bad as you may think this gov. is it' 10 times worse.
Well there you go !!!! Someones knows the truth of the matter ! People “aka” “researchers”, “treasure hunters” and “archeologists” have been scavenging all that stuff for decades. Don’t get too caught up in an old broken pot lol
It's context. A pot alone without context tells us little. A pot IN context can tell a lot. If the museum kept stuff with context, the idea of them being in a box isn't terrible. I have personally found a pot that sits in a museum. Normally, it is not on display, but it is somewhat often. There's just too much material to display all the time. I do understand the sentiment though.
It is a stunning find, and you were fortunate to have seen it. Taking such items would be looting, which is why it's been left in place. Institutions should never remove artifacts from Native American sites without the express permission of the tribe themselves. The Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (1990), among other things, prohibits the removal of artifacts from sites of Indigenous habitation. The archaeologists who left the bowl in place were responding with the dignity and cultural sensibility such sites deserve. As beautiful and historically significant as these kinds of artifacts are, the cultures that produced them - or their ancestors - have the final word as to what happens to them. It's not just art, it's living culture. Thanks so much for keeping the location secret!
One time I found a fully contact bowl no chips so I called Hopi preservation office .n they meet me where I found it on Hopi side .they documented n took pics of bowl n we buried it a couple ft down.. 👍
The fact that they buried it is mind boggling 🤦♀ Speaking from an archeological standpoint, if the bowl were found in the future it would be attributed to a completely different time period. Most artifacts from this area are found on the surface and so 24" below the surface doesn't make sense (to me).
@@IceLynne A competent archeologist would realize that the soil above the pot had been disturbed, and correct for that. There are holes in the ground around Stonehenge that don't confuse archeologists. (I realize a hole in chalk is easy to detect.)
This scenery is so breathtaking I had to watch twice to catch what you said the first time. What a gorgeous place. The pottery is exquisite in style and design and I hope it stays there undisturbed for generations to come. Thanks for such a great video adventure, Jeff.
Thanks once again. Good find. I think it would be good to mark where you found it, then take it home to enjoy. Many problems, one is archeology has one set of considerations that are not likely to change unless proven wrong. Indigenous people are also set in their opinions. Unfortunately, both are not pure truth. Archeologists and many others keep that Natives were less than. Natives are of the opinion that things of the past are set and never changed. However, change and changing are the greatness of life now as in the past and future. Pictures, etc, where found and taken and kept safe is my opinion❤ good show
If one may not carry artifacts away to preserve them, could one install a shelter to preserve artifacts, in situ? Thoughts, regarding cliff shelters: do you notice differences between shelters with cup marks (evidence of occupation over several years, grinding corn or other seeds) and other shelters that may have only been 'improved camps'? Another fun adventure .. see if you can find out how that bowl was made, and if anyone today makes them in the same way - I think there is a story there waiting to be told.
The breaking of pottery was part of Puebloan rituals, used as demonstrations of sacrifice. The many hours spent creating this art form are given back to the Creator in the ritualistic smashing on a sacred spot. The more elaborate the decoration, the greater the sacrifice. The piece you discovered may have been from accidental breakage, since it was so big and not completely destroyed, but you never know.
You said "Your Wife"? Did you get married? If so, congrats! As far as those spots in that rock you thought were grinding areas, they seem smaller than usual grinding areas. They look evenly spaced apart. To me, they look like carved out steps on a large rock that may have broken loose and fallen from a higher area. That bowl is gorgeous. You can tell its been out in the elements for a little while due to the brown spot where water puddled & dried. But it doesn't appear to have been exposed for hundreds or thousands of years. I'm wondering if it was exposed recently due to a rock slide/earth movement? I'm also fascinated by the color of the bowl. All the land there is a reddish brown/orange. Looking along the broken edges of that bowl, it's a creamy white all the way through. It makes me wonder if it was made in a location far away from that area? Or if the maker just happened to stumble across a small spot of differently colored clay/soil to make that bowl? If only it could talk...
That’s what i was thinking about the grinding slab, but it is sitting at a perfect angle for the corn flour to drop into a vessel. Then they could just haul up the finished product.
Small correction: metate generally refers to portable millingstone technology, not these large, permanent stones with grinding slicks. Generally they're stone slabs, about 2 feet long or smaller; being large, easily identifiable artifacts, most were taken at some point, leaving now only fragments in most sites. Finding intact ones here in California is not common. When people died, their posessions were broken and buried with them, possibly explaining the huge numbers of groundstone slabs we find out here.
Nice one! That was pretty amazing! It totally looks like something you would see in a museum. Thank you, Jeff…these places you allow us to see fills me with wanderlust!
The bowl have really sharp broken edges. if you find things in archaeology which have such sharp broken edges,than you know that the thing not was a lot in moving- digging ,weather etc. This is a real lucky find to honour your work!
Jeff, I love it. Have you talked to SUU about the find. Thank you for your love and respect. Not near enough respect is shown to people and things . Keep trecking.
Astounded that no one reached out to you about the location. Beautiful piece of pottery that may not fit the usual pottery of that area. Keep exploring. Such enjoyment for me and you.
I have watched dozens of your excellent videos. Almost every time I've wonder if there will ever be a time when drones will be able fly back in time, making it possible to study the lives and challenges of people who lived in the places you discretely show. You make it possible to see our past in ways that are truly exciting. Keep up your important work.
I'm glad you contacted some organizations even though they don't respond you have to continually communicate with them even call the government and see who you can talk to to protect that area. That is an excellent video thank you
This was amazing, thank you Jeff. Amazing find, and thank you for leaving it, and explaining the importance of leaving such things as you find them. Respect.
About picking up pieces. I learned from a Navajo person, that you don't know what kind of spirit the makers of this pottery where. Was the pottery destroyed in a fight, anger, hate or just an accident? You won't know until you bring it in your home and that could be dangerous. Do you want to chance that? I was also taught that old jewelry needs to have a spirit hole in it to allow the owners spirit to move on. The person who I was working with knew their history and I really deeply appreciated these lessons. Many indigenous people hold similar beliefs, including Hawaiians. Great show and I agree with you, let those pieces where they are. And keep the locations to yourself. You are now a keeper of the land.
Wonders what the acheologists and people will think when they find our stuff laying about, in the distant future. And the stories/myths to be told of our time passed down to them.
@@BlankBrain Maybe so as to bulk minning of the landfills in the future, but have you ever broke down out in the middle of no where, and needed a piece of wire? And then found some not too far away, needed a knife to cut a hose, and found an old school poptop. Lots of these things won't be turning to dust either. Anciant cargo box (suprizingly mostly intact) from Amazon washes up, take them centuries to figure that all out, they might have to keep it a secret, lol.
Thank you for sharing this adventure and for keeping its whereabouts a mystery. Please let us know if/when you get a response from the emails you sent out about the site.
Thank you Jeff, that was incredible to see. I also really loved seeing that lizard petroglyph at the 11-minute mark. I greatly enjoy your hikes. Hopefully someone can make you a replica of that magnificent bowl to enjoy at home and remind you of your amazing find.
Your videos have peaked my interested in the history of the pre Europeans Americas. I have seen a few blogs that have shown two sights one in Texas and one down in South America that have shown preliminary dating of thirty thousand years ago. There are several new to me hypotheses that there may have been several different times that peoples from Eurasia made their way across to the Americas. My little pea brain tells me that the stone structures in central and South America and the earthen mounds and stone walls in North America were the very first attempts at building these structures in the Americas. Logic tells me that these people did not wake up one morning and said let’s build a stone wall. I have no native American ancestors and do not mean any disrespect to the plains Indians but tents made from animal hides cannot be the pinnacle of technology developed in North America. The tents used by the Plains Indians were good for tearing down and moving for a nomadic culture but as permanent shelter not so much.
Really enjoyed that,thank you,your enthusiasm & joy is contagious. The tragedy is that for every museum, be it vast or just a village, there are always many more exhibits,than are ever displayed. As someone who used to spend whole afternoons,going along the old display cases for ceramics in the Victoria & Albert Museum in South Kensington,London - aranged by colour - rather than chronology, it was like being inside a rainbow, especially at sunset when the sunlight stanted through the windows an through the cases. Sadly theyve now modernised & as a result,the beauty is gone,the labels taking up room for more artifacts,which are now in storage. I do agree with the premise of leaving finds out in the fields,for the Next traveller to enjoy. In Oman where we lived for years, i stopped that the day i went back to visit a rock shelter,in the mountains, where id left the hearth and various pots alone,though in the days before phones,i had taken photographs & laid my walking stick down to give an idea of scale. Someone had been there,had a cook out & messed up the whole site,breaking the few pots,not that any were perfect. BUT,it was the principle that made me furious. They had left some paperwork - obviously what they'd used to get a fire going & it had their name & address in Muscat. Along with my before & after photos i was able to report a crime. No one likes to snitch,but, Oman in the 70s only had a tiny department of Antiquities & my mother & I were volunteers. Threre were petroglyphs & examples of rick art all over the mountains, carvings , flakes from manufacture of hand tools & by the 80s,we were excavating Neolithic tombs,cut into the coral cliffs,the bines covered with red ochre and the remains of shell jewelry. Those were very humbling expeditions as you looked on the remains of people,the very existence of whom,had been to thst time,contested. There was a wonderful old shop in the ancient souq in old Muscat that sold old silver by weight,giving zero value to its age,old incense burners & pots,along with old doors & windows beautifully carved,from old houses,that had been torn down to make way for the new. There was an old house,built around a central compound,it was surrounded by a metal fence with keep out signs. It was waiting to be bulldozed for a bew road & an up market glamping hotel,where each unit would have it's own swimming pool. I broke in to take photos & in a corner amongst a pile of broken things was a perfect insense burned,decorsted with a pattern min a faded red,that i kept & am looking at it im my flat in London as I type,had i left it,it would just be powered dust. Very best wishes to you & yours1👋✌️
It is amazing that lasted so long. Those pots are not fully vitrified. They are still porous, if they absorb water and freeze- the end. The water/ice will expand in the pores and reduce them to dust. My guess is you might get snow, but It is never cold enough to freeze much of anything :) Very neat find. There is a great youtube channel that specializes in the native pottery in your area. I learned a ton from his channel and tried all sorts of things. Thanks for the ventures! heres Andy Wards channel. www.youtube.com/@AncientPottery
Get this bowl authenticated with the closest University Archeological Dept and save this information for the people that made it. The surviving generations would be astounded and proud. Let the Natives decide where it should reside. People History is paramount to those digs, preserving the digs is next on the list.
I am sure you will update us when an archeologist wants that!! Thank you for sharing this and it was a great adventure and so thoughtful of you to tell the story outside.
To be honest, let's just hope it stays there so others in the future can appreciate it in situ - as someone else commentated there are museums and vaults overflowing with NA artifacts which never see the light of day, so in a way it's probably more fitting that it is where the last user left it, at one with its environment for anyone who cares to see it can. Thanks for being a decent chap! Happy trails.
Why are these ancient stone buildings only found in the south? Why are there no similar remains further north into the Rockies etc? Nice work please keep it coming!
This is an awesome video. Here for all your shared adventures and finds. If in person or sharing through story telling. Much respect for the respect you show in keeping its location secret.
Back in the seventies and eighties, I used to go solo hiking out west to seek out Tinajas , seeps, tanks and wells. I never told locations of my quests because I'd found that the more people who knew about a place, the more it got trashed. I've got good memories of places and things I never told about. I'm very happy you are doing much the same. I didn't have youtube, so I didn't post pics or videos back then. I might now, but just as respectfully as you do. Thank you for your respect of these ancient places. At seventy, I probably won't be going on quests anymore. Thanks for taking me along on your quests.
I could have written this myself. Old and still as amazed and curious about our earth and the peoples who lived before.
Amazing how that big piece of bowl has been there for hundreds of years. Thank you for sharing while protecting its location.
Great find that shows the artistry that existed so many years ago.
Thanks again!
We appreciate you actually DOING this. If someone else loots that pottery, it wasn't you, & it won't be me. Thanks for putting your heart into this work.
Positive waves, keep it up.
It always amazes me that the paint on the old pottery has lasted so much longer than the paint on my ten year old truck.
Dodge !
Make it last Forever and you've worked yourself out of a Job. To all my future archeologists. A message from the Future.
If you could make a truck body out of clay, and bake the finish on in the giant kiln, it should last!
I wouldn’t exactly characterize a ceramic glaze as a paint.
They used organic materials like boiled plants or crushed rock. The key is that the paint was fired on the pot so it will last.
Thank you for sharing such a gorgeous find! One of the best pieces I have seen lying out on the Earth. Thank you for being so respectful of this and the area it is in, protecting it from those that would not be as respectful. Honor to you!
cool find!
Huge respect for you young man, Regards from UK
Thank you for that, Ian
Thank you so much for being a person of Integrity.
Brilliant Bowl - nice little Ruins - Grinding Surfaces - Rock Art - another Fantastic Adventure - Loving it ! Many Cheers from Australia !
Enjoyed this. Thank you for being protective of the site. Always interested in your treks!
That piece of pottery is truly awesome & amazing that it is still there after all these centuries.
Congratulations on marriage Jeff. OMG that bowl was so amazing to see and find! Thank you for sharing and protecting site. Love and blessings
That is amazing. I grew up in Virginia and as kids we would find trenches and forts in the woods left over from the war that had never been touched so I know the feeling. Most of those places are housing and apt now. They would flatten the forts before any one knew move graveyards just awful stuff. Preservation is key.
Thanks for sharing Jeff...there is a fine line between preservation and looting...unfortunately many humans are driven by greed and they can't resist digging...I've been a student of archeology for over 50 years..specifically the peopling of America...and had it not been for surface collecting..we would have many gaps in our understanding..guess there still is. That said...NAGPRA laws are just that...LAWS. and I obey them even if I don't always agree with them. Even if no one else ever sees it in the wild...you have preserved it with your video. I'm a huge fan of your channel . Well done
🤔 Seems to me, wayyy to many of these artifacts, sit in side of museums, or colleges and haven't seen the light of day, since they were collected. THAT is not right, nor good. Neither is stealing them and hording or selling them.
I am an archeologists in South Africa. I have 30 years of work behind me. I share your sentiment and views 200%. Nevertheless, when a piece like that is found, I would rather it being preserved than left out to go to ruin eventually. There are shards and other large pieces which must be left undisturbed. But a piece like that can be placed in a museum. Anyway, how many viewers might now geolocate it and go take it?
Regards!
@@01Lenda I have worked with a couple of museums over the years...and it's true. Many well intentioned folks donate entire collections of artifacts...believing they are contributing to a greater understanding of ancient cultures...but in fact..many museums are inundated by the shear numbers of donations..and most are never exhibited... these artifacts are often sold to the public after de-acquistion.
So, you have no ancient artifacts in your collection? In your home or drawers? Hard to beleieve.
@@sneb1224 I agree. Here in the US...had it not been for surface collecting...so much would have been lost to the plow..or covered over by urban sprawl. Some of the finest examples of ancient human artifacts are in private hands..unfortunately many lack provenance and are not of scientific value and become examples of art.
It's amazing how much you find every time, I love to see the art on the stones. 😍💜☮
What a lovely shard.
Wow! What a grand find. Thanks for sharing
Before watching the video, I just wanted to pause and thank you for protecting this sensitive area. So many creators only care about content, but you have managed to both protect the area and create some excellent content. As always of course.
The bowl piece hasn't been there very long. Someone or something put it there.
Notice how there is nothing in the bowl?, It's not stained, and how it is sitting on top of organic debris? That means it's only been out in the open for a short amout of time. It doesn't look it has been rained on yet. Also, if it had been there for a long time, it would be sunbaked and it hasn't been exposed to the sun for very long.
An armadillo probably dug it up from under a large rock at some point. Badger and armadillo holes are good places to find artifacts because they dig them up.
It would be interesting to place (newly created) potsherds with hidden trail cams near ruins to catch looters.
I agree, I think it was overturned by a goat or deer, or it fell from a shelf above, maybe a raven or ground squirrel poking around.
I see an arrowhead, just 3 to 4 inches above and a little to the right of that pottery bowl you’re showing us.
That purplish bit?
I see two.
Guarantee that bowl will be gone following this video.
Looks more like a cutting tool to me, but my eyes went straight to it when he zoomed in to the bowl.
@@JTube571 - absolutely could be a cutting tool. I agree.
The color was beautiful.
@@jeffhildreth9244I really don’t think he gave away any locations.
I hope someone who has watched this video can help you with your find.! Great video. It should be preserved
Excellent trip, I applaud you for your integrity
So spectacular!!! I'm bless to have seen it. Thank you for posting. Don't give that location out!!!!
It is a failure that the organizations did not even respond. Disappointing.
They don't care for a individual piece because they have boxes full of that stuff.
Probably the grad student in charge of monitoring the emails doesn’t give a damn and is lazy. People tend to have a little too much respect for academics, not realizing that at least half of them obtain their PhD‘s because they had no idea what they wanted to do in life when they grew up.
An awful lot of your university and college professors figured that they could get societal respect, “intellectual challenge“ whatever that means, and a moderately decent income if they became university professors. Far too many of them substitute arrogance for a desire to learn and discover - they would rather write journal articles essentially debating how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin rather than do anything with substantive merit, such as teach, educate students, and discover something new.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some people who went into academics for all of the correct reasons, love of teaching, a love of discovery and learning and a fascination with their subject matter. I’ve had some excellent professors in college and grad school. But I’ve also had just as many that arrogantly hid behind obscure vocabulary and pseudo intellectualism rather than come up with something worthwhile to teach, probably because they had no genuine substantive accomplishments in their careers.
I know a number of academics and university departments are far too often not open-minded places of intellectual discovery, but close minded, old boy networks where Women or academics who excel at capturing their students’ attention are discriminated against and do not receive tenure. Ditto for those who want to think and research outside of the box.
@@WisGuy4oh look another miserable maga projecting his Caucasian grievance at others.
@@elysofly@_umi_says It's called Conquest and has been repeated over a million times since the beginning. Stop acting like it was just horrible, rotten American/s. That's what you get in a Fallen, Godless world who turned their backs on their Creator and Savior. If you have turned your back to Him, you, too, are part of the problem. Wake up!
Truth@@elysofly
That's amazing. Thank you so much for leaving the bowl there, and not showing the location. Keep up your great work.
The fact you reiterate the importance of conservation concerning ancient sites gives me warm fuzzies. Thankyou for that aspect of your journeys.
The grinding marks on the stone are likely not places that someone ground seeds or grain or corn... but where they sharpened their stone axes. Most places (not all) that food sources are ground down, are more flat and level. Because it is VERY HARD to grind food on a sloped surface ... but it is preferable on a sloped surface to sharpen an ax head. All stone ax heads are shaped before lashing to a handle. And most handles are made from green willow or harder wood and wrapped or lashed in rawhide or bark fiber. A stone ax is harder to maintain the shapes once it is mounted to a handle, and the ax head might be mounted on several different handles until it is worn out completely and tossed away into a trash pile. These people were very good craftsmen and survivors. They were also NOT "ancestral puebloans", because the PUEBLO people were already living in pueblos and larger communities for over 1000 years before the cliff dwelling people began building and living in these defensive places. That bowl likely broke during use and was just left there. Or, it might have been a place of burial, a place where the people there were taken captive or killed by the Anasazi raiders and cannibals. It's hard to say. It's just a broken bowl. Just like when we have broken dishes in our day, we throw them away and they end up in the landfill. Back then, you have a culture that is deeply connected to the earth. And their belief then is as it is now... It came from the earth, and it returns to the earth, and there it must stay. Violating that law, brings calamity upon the law breaker.
RESPECT always to YOU and those that came before! Thanks Jeff, although the video was something a little different than your norm, it was still quite interesting, which is why we are all here.!! ✔️
Thanks for your sharing 🙏🌹
Fantastic find!! Thank you...
Thanks for taking us along! I appreciate the respectful way you approach these locations.
Thank you for sharing your finds and also speaking about respecting the ones who came before us and leaving those finds exactly where they are. Great episode.
Hey Jeff I love your channel
That piece of red chert, possibly a knife scraper, above it to the right at 5:06 is pretty cool too
Came to say the same thing, good catch!
I’m glad to hear that you think that way about the artifacts that were left by people before us, that’s really cool Jeff 🌹🌹
Great find! Your videos are much appreciated! I bet you'll be hearing from someone after this video.....keep up the great work!!
That pot is hypnotic, the pattern is amazing. Have you ever thought that someday you might find a pot completely intact? I'd love to see that video. Thanks for the trip, stay safe.
Woww! Incredible! PEOPLE, please if you know where this is, don't divulge any hints or clues in the comment section. Enjoy the video, and let it live. 🙌
That bowl was in such fantastic condition! You are correct it's the kind of thing they put in a glass display case somewhere. I hope nobody steals it for their own collection. It's absolutely gorgeous!
So about the whole "my wife's family"
Congratulations on getting married! You really out to share at least one wedding photo! We are all happy for you 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Of the unusual stones you encountered, the jade green rock looks like a polishing stone for pottery. So intriguing to see the beautiful handmade bowls and other items crafted hundreds of years ago and still beautiful today. Thanks for sharing and for taking us along on your journey. Stay safe out there.
You ARE Indiana Jones!! Wow!! What a find man!! Love this channel!!
Indiana Jeff!
The 'grinding surfaces' look more like they're parts of a step-way that had fallen at some time.
it does appear that way.
I thought the same!
You emotion is so genuine and easy to spot. We like you just talking, and... showing us all that stuff, sharing your emotions with us, teaching us...
4:18 - This part really got me thinking... 🤯 Love how you make these complex ideas so easy to understand!
In 1982 I took a job as a janitor. We were told to wax the floors in this huge building. I think it was off N. stone Ave in Tucson. It was about 2 acers in size. I opened a door and there was draws up 6' and then shelves for 15' to the ceiling there was Indian pots ,baskets matata's. all the draws were full of scrapers arrow heads. carved stone, any thing you could see in a museum or anything you could imagen, millions and millions of items. there was an office aria and on the desks were Indian pots being used for candy dishes and pencil holders. These people are just looters, imagen if they let you see what they took home. It's all for them to loot but not you. I found a lot of stuff before the criminals in charge made it illegal. As bad as you may think this gov. is it' 10 times worse.
Interesting story. It makes me think of the ending scene of the first Indiana Jones movie ...
Well there you go !!!! Someones knows the truth of the matter ! People “aka” “researchers”, “treasure hunters” and “archeologists” have been scavenging all that stuff for decades. Don’t get too caught up in an old broken pot lol
It's context. A pot alone without context tells us little. A pot IN context can tell a lot. If the museum kept stuff with context, the idea of them being in a box isn't terrible. I have personally found a pot that sits in a museum. Normally, it is not on display, but it is somewhat often. There's just too much material to display all the time.
I do understand the sentiment though.
I found one piece of pottery in the Wyoming desert. Thankfully I had seen many of your vids and knew not to disturb. Was a very surreal moment..
It looks like a lot of char in the debris where the bowl was found. So many wonders! Thank you Indy 😉 for sharing! I just love your videos💕
Kudos Mr. Jeff! Well done!
There's also a nice piece of what looks like worked chert just above and to the right of the pottery piece. They were there.
Just above the bowl it looks like another artifact, worked flint
It is a stunning find, and you were fortunate to have seen it. Taking such items would be looting, which is why it's been left in place. Institutions should never remove artifacts from Native American sites without the express permission of the tribe themselves. The Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (1990), among other things, prohibits the removal of artifacts from sites of Indigenous habitation. The archaeologists who left the bowl in place were responding with the dignity and cultural sensibility such sites deserve. As beautiful and historically significant as these kinds of artifacts are, the cultures that produced them - or their ancestors - have the final word as to what happens to them. It's not just art, it's living culture. Thanks so much for keeping the location secret!
Loved the awe in your voice as you spoke of that bowl and the areas inhabitants . Respect shows❤
One time I found a fully contact bowl no chips so I called Hopi preservation office .n they meet me where I found it on Hopi side .they documented n took pics of bowl n we buried it a couple ft down.. 👍
The fact that they buried it is mind boggling 🤦♀ Speaking from an archeological standpoint, if the bowl were found in the future it would be attributed to a completely different time period. Most artifacts from this area are found on the surface and so 24" below the surface doesn't make sense (to me).
@@IceLynne A competent archeologist would realize that the soil above the pot had been disturbed, and correct for that. There are holes in the ground around Stonehenge that don't confuse archeologists. (I realize a hole in chalk is easy to detect.)
@@BlankBrain your name suits you.
Looks like older Acoma Pueblo pottery. It's beautiful! Thank you so much for leaving things alone and not sharing locations. Very respectful.
This scenery is so breathtaking I had to watch twice to catch what you said the first time. What a gorgeous place. The pottery is exquisite in style and design and I hope it stays there undisturbed for generations to come. Thanks for such a great video adventure, Jeff.
Thanks once again. Good find. I think it would be good to mark where you found it, then take it home to enjoy. Many problems, one is archeology has one set of considerations that are not likely to change unless proven wrong. Indigenous people are also set in their opinions. Unfortunately, both are not pure truth. Archeologists and many others keep that Natives were less than. Natives are of the opinion that things of the past are set and never changed. However, change and changing are the greatness of life now as in the past and future. Pictures, etc, where found and taken and kept safe is my opinion❤ good show
One of your most beautiful finds Jeff,it’s always an archaeological expedition every video,kudos to you for sharing these hidden secrets!
If one may not carry artifacts away to preserve them, could one install a shelter to preserve artifacts, in situ? Thoughts, regarding cliff shelters: do you notice differences between shelters with cup marks (evidence of occupation over several years, grinding corn or other seeds) and other shelters that may have only been 'improved camps'?
Another fun adventure .. see if you can find out how that bowl was made, and if anyone today makes them in the same way - I think there is a story there waiting to be told.
The breaking of pottery was part of Puebloan rituals, used as demonstrations of sacrifice. The many hours spent creating this art form are given back to the Creator in the ritualistic smashing on a sacred spot. The more elaborate the decoration, the greater the sacrifice. The piece you discovered may have been from accidental breakage, since it was so big and not completely destroyed, but you never know.
Someone has the other half.
@@jeffhildreth9244 That's just mind blowing, if true.
Really who told u that
You said "Your Wife"? Did you get married? If so, congrats!
As far as those spots in that rock you thought were grinding areas, they seem smaller than usual grinding areas.
They look evenly spaced apart.
To me, they look like carved out steps on a large rock that may have broken loose and fallen from a higher area.
That bowl is gorgeous.
You can tell its been out in the elements for a little while due to the brown spot where water puddled & dried. But it doesn't appear to have been exposed for hundreds or thousands of years.
I'm wondering if it was exposed recently due to a rock slide/earth movement?
I'm also fascinated by the color of the bowl. All the land there is a reddish brown/orange. Looking along the broken edges of that bowl, it's a creamy white all the way through.
It makes me wonder if it was made in a location far away from that area? Or if the maker just happened to stumble across a small spot of differently colored clay/soil to make that bowl?
If only it could talk...
Adding ash to the clay makes it white.
That’s what i was thinking about the grinding slab, but it is sitting at a perfect angle for the corn flour to drop into a vessel. Then they could just haul up the finished product.
Thanks for respecting these sites
Small correction: metate generally refers to portable millingstone technology, not these large, permanent stones with grinding slicks. Generally they're stone slabs, about 2 feet long or smaller; being large, easily identifiable artifacts, most were taken at some point, leaving now only fragments in most sites. Finding intact ones here in California is not common. When people died, their posessions were broken and buried with them, possibly explaining the huge numbers of groundstone slabs we find out here.
Nice one! That was pretty amazing! It totally looks like something you would see in a museum. Thank you, Jeff…these places you allow us to see fills me with wanderlust!
Cool trek! At least you let people know that piece is there. Thanks for taking us along!❤
Very cool. Thank you. Congratulations.
Man, I'm in Europe and old stuff is everywhere. Roman, Iron age, Bronze age. You guys take over America and every bit of pottery is like wow.
Outstanding adventure. Thank you for sharing.
Great find, and love the pattern on that bowl part! :-)
Very Cool Find.
Thank you for leaving it there!
I highly agree with your respect for the indigenous, I wish we had more like you in Australia👍
Thank you so much for being respective and protective of impeach cultural artifacts and locations. And thank you for teaching others the same.
Wow, great find👍💕
I hope someone will contact you so it will be secured for future generations❤️
The locals know that piece of pottery came from an old thunder bucket.That's why ...
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Thank you for keeping these places safe. I wish more Americans would cherish the people before us.
The bowl have really sharp broken edges. if you find things in archaeology which have such sharp broken edges,than you know that the thing not was a lot in moving- digging ,weather etc. This is a real lucky find to honour your work!
Jeff, I love it. Have you talked to SUU about the find. Thank you for your love and respect. Not near enough respect is shown to people and things . Keep trecking.
Astounded that no one reached out to you about the location. Beautiful piece of pottery that may not fit the usual pottery of that area. Keep exploring. Such enjoyment for me and you.
I have watched dozens of your excellent videos. Almost every time I've wonder if there will ever be a time when drones will be able fly back in time, making it possible to study the lives and challenges of people who lived in the places you discretely show. You make it possible to see our past in ways that are truly exciting. Keep up your important work.
I'm glad you contacted some organizations even though they don't respond you have to continually communicate with them even call the government and see who you can talk to to protect that area. That is an excellent video thank you
Awesome discovery and truly enjoy your videos! Keep em coming. Appreciate your respect of native cultures, as a native myself. 🌿💙
This was amazing, thank you Jeff. Amazing find, and thank you for leaving it, and explaining the importance of leaving such things as you find them. Respect.
I love your attitude. Paying respect is key for a civilization. Some people are capable of it. Thank you!
About picking up pieces. I learned from a Navajo person, that you don't know what kind of spirit the makers of this pottery where. Was the pottery destroyed in a fight, anger, hate or just an accident? You won't know until you bring it in your home and that could be dangerous. Do you want to chance that? I was also taught that old jewelry needs to have a spirit hole in it to allow the owners spirit to move on. The person who I was working with knew their history and I really deeply appreciated these lessons.
Many indigenous people hold similar beliefs, including Hawaiians.
Great show and I agree with you, let those pieces where they are.
And keep the locations to yourself. You are now a keeper of the land.
Wonders what the acheologists and people will think when they find our stuff laying about, in the distant future. And the stories/myths to be told of our time passed down to them.
@@Emprivan Most of our stuff is in landfills. A lot of it will be determined by how various plastics deteriorate.
Dark spirits do cling to things like that, though some may not believe it.
@@BlankBrain Maybe so as to bulk minning of the landfills in the future, but have you ever broke down out in the middle of no where, and needed a piece of wire? And then found some not too far away, needed a knife to cut a hose, and found an old school poptop. Lots of these things won't be turning to dust either. Anciant cargo box (suprizingly mostly intact) from Amazon washes up, take them centuries to figure that all out, they might have to keep it a secret, lol.
@@Emprivan Regarding the Amazon container... They'll think we worshiped a yellow rubber duck.
Thank you for sharing this adventure and for keeping its whereabouts a mystery. Please let us know if/when you get a response from the emails you sent out about the site.
I will keep you all updated!
THANK YOU JEFF LOVE WHAT YOU DO 👍🙏>>>💚
WOW!!! What an AMAZING find!!! It is truly hard to believe you got no responses to your inquiries.
Thank you Jeff, that was incredible to see. I also really loved seeing that lizard petroglyph at the 11-minute mark. I greatly enjoy your hikes. Hopefully someone can make you a replica of that magnificent bowl to enjoy at home and remind you of your amazing find.
Just love your channel and your adventures. Thanks for bringing us along.
It’s probably so common they don’t even wanna mess with it
Your videos have peaked my interested in the history of the pre Europeans Americas. I have seen a few blogs that have shown two sights one in Texas and one down in South America that have shown preliminary dating of thirty thousand years ago. There are several new to me hypotheses that there may have been several different times that peoples from Eurasia made their way across to the Americas. My little pea brain tells me that the stone structures in central and South America and the earthen mounds and stone walls in North America were the very first attempts at building these structures in the Americas. Logic tells me that these people did not wake up one morning and said let’s build a stone wall. I have no native American ancestors and do not mean any disrespect to the plains Indians but tents made from animal hides cannot be the pinnacle of technology developed in North America. The tents used by the Plains Indians were good for tearing down and moving for a nomadic culture but as permanent shelter not so much.
Really enjoyed that,thank you,your enthusiasm & joy is contagious. The tragedy is that for every museum, be it vast or just a village, there are always many more exhibits,than are ever displayed. As someone who used to spend whole afternoons,going along the old display cases for ceramics in the Victoria & Albert Museum in South Kensington,London - aranged by colour - rather than chronology, it was like being inside a rainbow, especially at sunset when the sunlight stanted through the windows an through the cases. Sadly theyve now modernised & as a result,the beauty is gone,the labels taking up room for more artifacts,which are now in storage.
I do agree with the premise of leaving finds out in the fields,for the Next traveller to enjoy. In Oman where we lived for years, i stopped that the day i went back to visit a rock shelter,in the mountains, where id left the hearth and various pots alone,though in the days before phones,i had taken photographs & laid my walking stick down to give an idea of scale. Someone had been there,had a cook out & messed up the whole site,breaking the few pots,not that any were perfect. BUT,it was the principle that made me furious. They had left some paperwork - obviously what they'd used to get a fire going & it had their name & address in Muscat. Along with my before & after photos i was able to report a crime. No one likes to snitch,but, Oman in the 70s only had a tiny department of Antiquities & my mother & I were volunteers.
Threre were petroglyphs & examples of rick art all over the mountains, carvings , flakes from manufacture of hand tools & by the 80s,we were excavating Neolithic tombs,cut into the coral cliffs,the bines covered with red ochre and the remains of shell jewelry. Those were very humbling expeditions as you looked on the remains of people,the very existence of whom,had been to thst time,contested.
There was a wonderful old shop in the ancient souq in old Muscat that sold old silver by weight,giving zero value to its age,old incense burners & pots,along with old doors & windows beautifully carved,from old houses,that had been torn down to make way for the new.
There was an old house,built around a central compound,it was surrounded by a metal fence with keep out signs. It was waiting to be bulldozed for a bew road & an up market glamping hotel,where each unit would have it's own swimming pool. I broke in to take photos & in a corner amongst a pile of broken things was a perfect insense burned,decorsted with a pattern min a faded red,that i kept & am looking at it im my flat in London as I type,had i left it,it would just be powered dust.
Very best wishes to you & yours1👋✌️
That artifact would be tempting, I tip my hat to you for leaving it where you found it. Thank you for your content ...
It is amazing that lasted so long. Those pots are not fully vitrified. They are still porous, if they absorb water and freeze- the end. The water/ice will expand in the pores and reduce them to dust. My guess is you might get snow, but It is never cold enough to freeze much of anything :) Very neat find. There is a great youtube channel that specializes in the native pottery in your area. I learned a ton from his channel and tried all sorts of things. Thanks for the ventures! heres Andy Wards channel. www.youtube.com/@AncientPottery
Get this bowl authenticated with the closest University Archeological Dept and save this information for the people that made it. The surviving generations would be astounded and proud. Let the Natives decide where it should reside. People History is paramount to those digs, preserving the digs is next on the list.
That wonderful bowl piece --thank you for that glimps--very special
I am sure you will update us when an archeologist wants that!! Thank you for sharing this and it was a great adventure and so thoughtful of you to tell the story outside.
To be honest, let's just hope it stays there so others in the future can appreciate it in situ - as someone else commentated there are museums and vaults overflowing with NA artifacts which never see the light of day, so in a way it's probably more fitting that it is where the last user left it, at one with its environment for anyone who cares to see it can. Thanks for being a decent chap! Happy trails.
Thanks for taking us along too
Why are these ancient stone buildings only found in the south? Why are there no similar remains further north into the Rockies etc? Nice work please keep it coming!
Thanks for the great video. Pictures help keep the past alive.
This is an awesome video. Here for all your shared adventures and finds. If in person or sharing through story telling. Much respect for the respect you show in keeping its location secret.