I suggest using screw hooks or eyes to guide the lines. regular screws have sharp edges to bite into the wood that would still be exposed and fray the lines. The screw section on hooks and eyes can be buried in the wood. the line would only contact the smooth surface of the shaped area and still allow for tensioning without the fraying.
Incredible, brilliant, obviously, and what incredibly efficiency ... THAT is amazing gardening help!!, so maybe this info will mean i can have a garden as i am 73 and was about to just depend only on the local farmers market! Thanks and God bless you; great instructor, i love your manner of deportment sir! 💯 subed and inspired. 👍
Thanks for another informative video. The deer stepped over my 3 foot electric fencing and used my raised beds as feeding troughs! Put up battery operated motion detector lights last season after they pulled EVERY seedling up to nibble on the roots. Knock on wood it's worked so far. Will try the fishing line where I do have permanent garden fencing up (oh yeah, that's for the woodchucks!)
Hi there and welcome to the channel. There's no particular brand purchased. Depending on the application you choose to pursue, it should be easily sourced at a hardware / home improvement store. Good luck :)
Thanks, Stace. Very well thought out and well executed solutions. In the suburbs where we live, a very energetic doe treats herself to our garden. The best solution would be the metal mesh fencing, but because of covenants and fencing codes, it's not possible. Have you ever tried the 3-D fence? If this works, it might be a possibility for us. We could use the existing 4' residential chain link, and behind it place a visible length of rope about 3' high and and about 3' from the existing fence. Maybe our doe would hesitate to jump? I kind of doubt it. She's a city girl, used to city tricks. BTW, when you get ready to replace the orange rope that fades, suggest trying blue. One reason hunters wear orange is that deer are supposed to have trouble seeing it. As for the fading, you can read the reviews to get some idea of how well a particular brand might hold up.
Hi Pierre, I've not tried the 3-d fence but it strikes me as brilliant! If you have enough real estate to create the second line from your fence it could be great. I know the deer where I live would work it like a rubik's cube and find some way to get in!
@@SustainableStace Thanks Stace. I'm going to try interweaving strong-test fishing line with a string of Au Top blue pennant banners. Good reviews from the boat people on the durability of the banners and keeping birds away. Blue because deer see this color well. To this string of banners I will attach a pulley system on one end and bungee cord on the other. Easy set up at night and take down in the morning with carabiner clips. The idea is to have a string that will snap back in the deer's face if they push on it. I've had some success with an old flex hose laced through plastic bags. The doe challenged it at my back yard gate, and left a strip of fur when the cord snapped back in her face and she caught her neck on the metal flourish. It looks trashy, and would be too heavy to string across my back yard. I'm looking for something that moves, makes a little noise, and offers the 3-D concept in conjunction with the 4' fencing on either side of the back yard, and is easy to put up and take down. I don't want to see blue banners when I'm out working in the yard...
That's a great question Joe - thanks for asking! It's true, that often hunters wear 'blaze orange' as it's called for hunting. Deer don't see the orange brightly as people do BUT they still see it. The orange is NOT an invisible cape on the hunter! And so, I believe deer still see the line even when it's orange.
The original rationale is that I wanted (esp in low light conditions) for the line to be visible - to prevent the deer blindly jumping in to the line. However, in retrospect, the coloured line has almost completely faded within a few months and doesn't stand out any longer.
i have a solution, i discovered it from Willson's greenhouse in Petoskey Michigan, they employed a motion detector, with one side containg a spot light bulb, the other side has a screw in plug; plug in a radio and turn it to talk. when a deer approaches, a light comes on and the radio starts blaring; it's just too much for them to stand, my garden is pretty large so i often have to use 2 or 3 of them to cover everything. so much cheaper and easier than a fence.
@@rebeccajohnson1368 i call it my technodeer, but it's just a motion detector, the two bulb type; i screw it to a post or 2x4 put it in the ground, a bulb in one side, and a little screw in outlet. i put a radio in a 5 gallon bucket, and put a strap across the opening to hold it in; then i pound a stake in the ground about 4 ft long, put the bucket over the stake. you might want to have the antenna sticking down, i tune it to talk radio; turn it uploud and forget it. every fall i take it down and leave a lot of things in the garden, kale, swiss chard, rutabega; in a few days the deer are back, this thing works so well i thought about manufacturing them, but i'd rather grow things. i have 3 garden plots, so i need hundreds of feet of extension cord, but this is so much easier than any type of fence. maybe i should do a youtube video. i hope this helps.
Fascinating idea. Talk Radio can do that to me too! I can see this working for a small-ish garden. We have 1.5 acres which needs to be deer proofed. Thanks for sharing Doug!
Those peeled posts are made for support ing new trees. They will rot out after a couple of years. Also, using an auger is overkill here. Get a stake pounder,a heavy metal tube with handles.Faster and easier unless your soil is concrete.
That depends on where you live---what kind of soil. I'm in northwest Arkansas. On the 40 acres on which I live, there is not one place where a wooden post can be driven into the ground deep enough so it stands up.
In our area, which is heavy clay soil, if a post is more than 2-3" diameter there's NO way that a pounder will work. Treated posts, any size, in our area will typically last 20 years. An auger is suited for larger posts, for sure.
We use 7’ 2x4 fencing. I’ve seen deer jump 8’ at a standstill with no problems. It depends on deer pressure in your area and we are on an after run. Bird netting would not work. The birds and snakes get caught in it and any can chew through it. The best thing I’ve heard of is 4’ high electric fence. They say to put tinfoil with a bit of peanut butter on it and once they zap the sensitive nose they stay away. Anything else the get anesthetize to. Another help is to make the area inside a lower fence look busy with posts, beds, chairs, ect because they have poor depth perception and normally won’t jump if there is not a clear landing. I read wide hedges might do the same. I’m so over anything that says deer resistant, ect-we are in a severe drought and they eat everything. It looks like we have a zoo here.
Wow - lots of challenges. We HAD SO Many deer in our area when recorded this video. Since then, the past few years, cougars moved in and effectively removed them all. So, at the moment we see virtually no deer and a fence is not needed. As you noted, so many suggestions re: deer resistant mean little to nothing if deer are hungry.
I'm comfy in both metric and imperial. I know many of my viewers are in the USA aka last bastion of imperial measure - while the rest of the world are all 'what's a yard?' LOL
I've attached cow bell's along the fence line on my utah garden. When disturbed, they clank and scare the deer.
A cowbell to scare a deer! Great idea.
I suggest using screw hooks or eyes to guide the lines. regular screws have sharp edges to bite into the wood that would still be exposed and fray the lines. The screw section on hooks and eyes can be buried in the wood. the line would only contact the smooth surface of the shaped area and still allow for tensioning without the fraying.
That's a great suggestion - thank you !
Another great video. Great energy.
Love the last idea. Going to try it out!
Fantastic ideas Stace!!!!
Glad you like them!
Incredible, brilliant, obviously, and what incredibly efficiency ...
THAT is amazing gardening help!!, so maybe this info will mean i can have a garden as i am 73 and was about to just depend only on the local farmers market! Thanks and God bless you; great instructor, i love your manner of deportment sir! 💯 subed and inspired. 👍
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your encouragement !
Thanks for another informative video. The deer stepped over my 3 foot electric fencing and used my raised beds as feeding troughs! Put up battery operated motion detector lights last season after they pulled EVERY seedling up to nibble on the roots. Knock on wood it's worked so far. Will try the fishing line where I do have permanent garden fencing up (oh yeah, that's for the woodchucks!)
The deer can make a lot of work for us !
i use a motion detector in conjunction with a radio and a light, works perfect.
This is great! Thank you! Can you please provide a link for the fencing material that you used?
Hi there and welcome to the channel.
There's no particular brand purchased.
Depending on the application you choose to pursue, it should be easily sourced at a hardware / home improvement store.
Good luck :)
thanks for the advice
You're welcome!
Thanks, Stace. Very well thought out and well executed solutions. In the suburbs where we live, a very energetic doe treats herself to our garden. The best solution would be the metal mesh fencing, but because of covenants and fencing codes, it's not possible. Have you ever tried the 3-D fence? If this works, it might be a possibility for us. We could use the existing 4' residential chain link, and behind it place a visible length of rope about 3' high and and about 3' from the existing fence. Maybe our doe would hesitate to jump? I kind of doubt it. She's a city girl, used to city tricks. BTW, when you get ready to replace the orange rope that fades, suggest trying blue. One reason hunters wear orange is that deer are supposed to have trouble seeing it. As for the fading, you can read the reviews to get some idea of how well a particular brand might hold up.
Hi Pierre,
I've not tried the 3-d fence but it strikes me as brilliant! If you have enough real estate to create the second line from your fence it could be great. I know the deer where I live would work it like a rubik's cube and find some way to get in!
@@SustainableStace Thanks Stace. I'm going to try interweaving strong-test fishing line with a string of Au Top blue pennant banners. Good reviews from the boat people on the durability of the banners and keeping birds away. Blue because deer see this color well. To this string of banners I will attach a pulley system on one end and bungee cord on the other. Easy set up at night and take down in the morning with carabiner clips. The idea is to have a string that will snap back in the deer's face if they push on it. I've had some success with an old flex hose laced through plastic bags. The doe challenged it at my back yard gate, and left a strip of fur when the cord snapped back in her face and she caught her neck on the metal flourish. It looks trashy, and would be too heavy to string across my back yard. I'm looking for something that moves, makes a little noise, and offers the 3-D concept in conjunction with the 4' fencing on either side of the back yard, and is easy to put up and take down. I don't want to see blue banners when I'm out working in the yard...
Love your videos. Can deer see orange? Safety orange is a popular color when deer hunting so other hunters don’t shoot you.
That's a great question Joe - thanks for asking!
It's true, that often hunters wear 'blaze orange' as it's called for hunting. Deer don't see the orange brightly as people do BUT they still see it. The orange is NOT an invisible cape on the hunter!
And so, I believe deer still see the line even when it's orange.
Thank you for your content. Can you say more about why one line is orange while the others are clear fishing line?
The original rationale is that I wanted (esp in low light conditions) for the line to be visible - to prevent the deer blindly jumping in to the line. However, in retrospect, the coloured line has almost completely faded within a few months and doesn't stand out any longer.
you do know Deer can't see Orange right.
i have a solution, i discovered it from Willson's greenhouse in Petoskey Michigan, they employed a motion detector, with one side containg a spot light bulb, the other side has a screw in plug; plug in a radio and turn it to talk. when a deer approaches, a light comes on and the radio starts blaring; it's just too much for them to stand, my garden is pretty large so i often have to use 2 or 3 of them to cover everything. so much cheaper and easier than a fence.
What is it called
@@rebeccajohnson1368 i call it my technodeer, but it's just a motion detector, the two bulb type; i screw it to a post or 2x4 put it in the ground, a bulb in one side, and a little screw in outlet. i put a radio in a 5 gallon bucket, and put a strap across the opening to hold it in; then i pound a stake in the ground about 4 ft long, put the bucket over the stake. you might want to have the antenna sticking down, i tune it to talk radio; turn it uploud and forget it. every fall i take it down and leave a lot of things in the garden, kale, swiss chard, rutabega; in a few days the deer are back, this thing works so well i thought about manufacturing them, but i'd rather grow things. i have 3 garden plots, so i need hundreds of feet of extension cord, but this is so much easier than any type of fence. maybe i should do a youtube video. i hope this helps.
Fascinating idea.
Talk Radio can do that to me too!
I can see this working for a small-ish garden.
We have 1.5 acres which needs to be deer proofed.
Thanks for sharing Doug!
Those peeled posts are made for support ing new trees. They will rot out after a couple of years. Also, using an auger is overkill here. Get a stake pounder,a heavy metal tube with handles.Faster and easier unless your soil is concrete.
That depends on where you live---what kind of soil. I'm in northwest Arkansas. On the 40 acres on which I live, there is not one place where a wooden post can be driven into the ground deep enough so it stands up.
In our area, which is heavy clay soil, if a post is more than 2-3" diameter there's NO way that a pounder will work.
Treated posts, any size, in our area will typically last 20 years.
An auger is suited for larger posts, for sure.
Love it❤
6 foot fence does not stop deer around here, they are pretty hungry and not much stops them short of fencing in the roof
Understood. At our previous place - I built 8 feet high and that was the only way to be sure.
I would use something other than red or orange because deer can't see it well. Something in the neon green family would work better.
Great idea. I realized that AFTER the fact.
Also, a few years of sun and rain and the COLOR is GONE from most rope, string, tape, flagging etc
15-20bucks! Maby in mexico...
"inexpensive" is a relative term.
You betcha!
We use 7’ 2x4 fencing. I’ve seen deer jump 8’ at a standstill with no problems. It depends on deer pressure in your area and we are on an after run. Bird netting would not work. The birds and snakes get caught in it and any can chew through it.
The best thing I’ve heard of is 4’ high electric fence. They say to put tinfoil with a bit of peanut butter on it and once they zap the sensitive nose they stay away. Anything else the get anesthetize to.
Another help is to make the area inside a lower fence look busy with posts, beds, chairs, ect because they have poor depth perception and normally won’t jump if there is not a clear landing. I read wide hedges might do the same.
I’m so over anything that says deer resistant, ect-we are in a severe drought and they eat everything. It looks like we have a zoo here.
Wow - lots of challenges. We HAD SO Many deer in our area when recorded this video. Since then, the past few years, cougars moved in and effectively removed them all. So, at the moment we see virtually no deer and a fence is not needed.
As you noted, so many suggestions re: deer resistant mean little to nothing if deer are hungry.
Mr Metric!!
I'm comfy in both metric and imperial.
I know many of my viewers are in the USA aka last bastion of imperial measure - while the rest of the world are all 'what's a yard?' LOL
@@SustainableStace The first and the LAST. LIKE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS.?!