@@informationservicesagreed.. zero point to this video and yes the move telegraphs are just terribly designed.. a lot of mini games in this title are hot trash at best; def not fun even when you figure them out.
@@neuneu3455 for sure. I usually pause where I see his elbow is positioned and following anatomy. If his elbow is high, it’s a straight. So guard up. If it’s neutral, it’s a hook, so left or right. And if his elbow is coming from underneath, it’s an uppercut so hold down.
The shinra dude took me over 2 hours to beat, in the end I ended up taking photos of his movements and put them onto paper and wrote down the direction, Made it a hell of a lot easier to do especially with the pausing of the menu as well.
If you pause during his animations it lets you see where he'll attack and help you learn his combos, this was clearly badly designed to be stupidly difficult so i have 0 issues cheesing it
@@TheDeathon It's honestly not even a cheese. It doesn't make it easy. You still have to learn what each punch looks like, which is surprisingly difficult, even with being able to stop it haha. I choose to belive that they purposely made this insanely hard because everyone hated 3D brawler back in the day too. It's continuity, y'know? 😂
The Sephiroth one is a joke. Each time I get hit once, I have to restart, because I've no hope in hell of winning otherwise, on top of that, sometimes you go the right direction to evade, but cloud blocks, so his gauge builds up bit by bit.
Hmm this might help for sephiroth red combo If it starts from the right, his combo would be : Right up, left, right, left up, left down. If it starts from the left : Left, left, right up, left down When you're going for the last punch before LB his combo change into: If he started on right up: Right up, left, right, left up, left up, left down There's one combo that started from left down but i haven't seen the full move set yet. Hope it helps rather than pausing it on the red combo.
This one is stupid easy to cheese. Hit pause as they’re about to throw their punch. Hold the correct stick orientation to dodge as you unpause. Rinse, repeat, win.
For anyone who is struggling with Sephiroth I'll list all the combos encountered when I faced him up until the point I beat him, they are kinda complex but, his first red is always right stick up, left, right, left stick up, right stick down, his second red combo can vary he'll use either down on the left stick, right then up on the left stick or use left, left again, then up on the right stick, his 4th and 5th red combo attacks can also vary, I mostly got, up on the right stick, left, right, left stick up, right stick down, left stick up, but he can also throw you off and use right stick up, left, right, then left stick up followed by another left stick up, the final combo he used against me was left, left, right stick up, left stick up, hope this helps anyone struggling to beat him for achievement hunting.
Go into the options and lower the audio for music/SFX/song to 1. Leave master and SFX(sephiroths grunts) to 10 If he grunts before your action, it will be a BLOCK. Also try changing your PS5 setting to 1440P And following your TV’s/ monitors best guide on how to lower input lag. Changing to performance mode, made a significant difference for me. -fully winds punch -pause -look at pictures(you can use PS5 screenshot and edit the screenshot within the ps5 to add commands, then subsequently take a photo of it on your phone and scroll between pictures) -perform action If his left shoulder is UP, hit with right. If his right shoulder is UP, hit with RIGHT Make sure your tv/monitor is configured for the lowest input lag possible. Wire your controller and be patient. Also change from graphics to performance, or vice versa. (Theory) GL
What helped me in some minigames so far, is using performance mode instead of graphic. The game seems to be more precise at command inputs in the performance mode.
I looked for this video cause I felt like a genius figuring out on my own I could pause the game during the shinra boss fight and I wanted to see if other people had realized that too. Whoever managed to beat Sephiroth without pausing, I commend you.
If you pause during their animations you can see where they'll hit, its cheesing but tbh UPA and sephiroth are both just unfairly designed and you either have spend forever learning their attacks and combos and timing down to a T or hope your reflexes are magic, i beat UPA fair and square but for sephiroth i just f*ck it i have better things to do
btw for anyone confused: sephiroth always does this combo first: R Up > L Left > R Right > L Up > R Down then he cycles between: R Up > L Left > R Right > L Up > R Down or L Left > L Left > R Up > L Down or L Down > R Right > L Up one fact that i don't see often documented is that if you only need one hit then these last two combos qill be the same: L Left > L Left > R Up > L Down or L Down > R Right > L Up however, he can do the first combo, but change the end of it to what i believe is: R Up > L Left > R Right > L Up > R Up > R Up > R Down At least I think thats the combo, but can be even longer (I never finished the combo, beat him with one of the other ones) This took a while but with the cheese pause strat it became pretty easy to figure out his movements after like half an hour to 1 hour With all this sephiroth is still pain :D
During Sephiroth fight even while doing the pause trick, sometimes my movements end up in a block instead of a dodge. Is there a certain timing when to move the R/L stick to guarantee a dodge? I’m holding down the direction while paused then unpausing, 1/3 chance it ends up blocking instead of dodging.
This is because when u fight him u need to move the analog stick after u unpause the game. The fight with sephiroth is more tight timing with it and if u move the direction before unpause it will be registered as a "to soon"
Fat Moogle was the worst ever lmao I just finally realized they tell you how to dodge on the screen before. I wouldn't know without this vid considering I was on retry 4 at that time 😂
for blocking/dodging. it seems to be if you input too early or too late then it does a block. need to pause on a good frame in the middle. just gotta make sure not to pause too late. once you're paused you can just hold the direction then unpause and it'll do the thing.
I’m glad to see there’s a whole community I can join of people that this minigame is screwing 😂 Edit: finally beat Sephiroth. It depends on how tall he’s standing. If he doesn’t bend down it’s a straight. If he bends but looks like a straight, it’s a hook. If he bends deep and pulls back it’s an uppercut
This needs to be higher. I came back just after beating him. Took me like half an hour with your advice, due to constantly blocking instead of dodging.
Here’s my tip to everyone, just spam the start button to pause right before their atb gauge fills up, you can time it and see which direction they are bout to attack from and prepare your self to unpause it and then respond lol
Hey, just some advice for 3D brawler if your struggling on the shiva,ifrit,sephrioth fight or any in general, but if you learn the animations first of the moves they use, eventually you can pause the game as they pull back for their move, so when you un-pause the game you can block the input as should be able to have enough of a window to catch it if you do it a few times, it's a good method if anyones struggling!!!
Sephiroth is all about knowing all 3 of his rage combo's. The others can be cheesed with pause method or through muscle memory and repetition to learn the fights.
This minigame is interesting, but I hate how you sometimes can't tell if it's an overcut or uppercut as the wind up for them looks identical. Plus, you only have one try each move to get it right which sucks!
Tips for sephiroth fight when u used the pause method. Dont ever hold the analog before u unpause the game because it will always registered as to early.
Which are the differences in the hits of Shiva for correctly responding to them? I do not see any! But there must be, if not this would be pure hazard???
Sephitoth fight, I just keep blocking and not dodging, and I NEVER get to attack. He dropped his arms once and neither one stuck out so I had no idea what to aim for. I dont have lightning fast reflexes or great memory. I pause had to take a picture then edit it with the proper response and all he ever does is block NEVER dodges. Then I never get to attack with blocks he has me after about 8 or 9 hits.
@@Q8yDeathWish not all of them and yea I’m very adhd so I want to do everything but with this game that means spending a whole day trying to complete fort condor to move on with the intel
If they only added a specific sound for each attack, that would do the trick, as it is even in "cheating" while pausing, which in itself is sad, I can't do it, Sephiroth hits almost 15 times before you can land a hit, while you do so little damage, all the other ones I learned their angry pattern and it went fine!
At this point, they should remove the mini games, or tone it the FUCK down. I don’t even care if it’s so easy that toddler can do it, JUST MAKE IT SO THAT YOU CAN BEAT THE MINIGAME
Sephiroths left movements are readable on his left side. On his right side they are not easily readable. His right hook could be an UP and not a right. And how can you tell? I have a hard time reading these judgements but everything else I read just fine. Any tips? Edit: I beatem. I really had to watch that right punch. Something about his hair locking with the punch or watching his shoulder. -_-;
The biggest piece of advice that worked for me was throwing a punch every time he attacked. Instead of me dodging 20 times to get his ass to throw the first combo. Just dont get greedy after the first comple of hits landed. Mf starts letting me try to hit him & if you're too slow to recover, he will swing at you 😒 Other then that fuck the dev who made this mini game.
The minigames in this game are incredible for the most part but it's like they designed the endgame minigames for 0.01% of the players to beat 😭did not struggle too much on moogle/dio/shiva/ifrit/yuffie until shinra middle manager, it's so hard to tell whether it's an uppercut or a hook... Got it after like ~10 tries, you can tell if it's a hook if he sticks his arm out super fast. Turned off the music too and that helped.
Anyone know why your character sometimes blocks instead of dodging? I thought it was a timing thing but it's not. Sephiroth is destroying me because my character won't stop blocking instead of dodging. Edit: And of course I beat him right after posting this, my character decided to almost never block and only dodge.
It might just be me but, this mini game is ass. The dodge mechanic feels random/unresponsive, like there’s some kind of input delay. You have no indication of where dio is about to hit cause his movements are also random or so it feels. All around I hated this mini game and Fort Condor
How does one dodge in the game I’ve been flicking the toggles left and right and I can’t seem to make him dodge just guard. Please help it’s making me so frustrated
I actually found it harder pausing on sephiroth because I kept getting the timing wrong so I would block a lot of punches. It took me a while but I did get it I just never want to do it again
My game has been glitching on 3D Brawler. Whenever I fight Rio I am pressing the analog stick and it doesn’t even respond and I get hit anyway. Screw 3D Brawler.
Are you using the correct stick? You need to use both the left and right stick in this game. Left stick dodges moves the opponent throws with their right arm and right stick dodges moves the opponent throws with their left arm. (They’re opposite since you’re facing them) I’ve seen a lot of people try to dodge Dio in the story game by using the left stick only.
@@RAGEAlanBun I have used the both analog sticks and timed it well and Cloud doesn’t even move during the fight. I am even pressing the analog stick at the right time but in almost every instance Cloud is just frozen in place.
It was hard watching dude do these fights, especially the first one which is beyond so easy and he somehoe made it look hard lol nonetheless still appreciate videos you do, i like watching others and seeing how good they are and finding things i may have missed
pause strat is a game changer. Cant beat fat moogle for days then beating sepiroth in one run. Cant blame those ranting abouth these minigames, especially those who want a no guide run. But i like the challenge tho haha
You have to beat the game first. Then finish all side quests and it will unlock Ultimate Party Animal Quest. When you beat Shinra Manager at the end of that quest then you unlock Sephiroth.
@@ShadowFang24 For me I mistook dodging Right for pressing Right. It's Right on the Right thumbstick only. So Left stuff for left thumbstick. Right for right thumbstick.
Question when you end up blocking a hit dose that mean you moved the in stick to early or late cues i'm doing the Sephiroth one now and the one that i have to move the stick to the left/right end up blocking and not dogging.
I'm getting too old to be doing 100% for this game and my hands are not steady as it was before. I may need to hire a local gamer in my town to see if that person can achieve it for me.
This video may have been helpful if you would at least explain which button to push to Dodge which punch. All you can do is guess which punch to dodge.
Going on about 20 hours of attempts on this dude...his hooks and uppercut looks exactly the same. I haven't hit him once yet cause he takes like 10 turns before he tries his combo, which I usually either get hit or block instead of all dodges...only thing keeping me from a Plat trophy is a sadistic game of RPS
God damn am i proud of myself, i got thst mofo sephiroth flawless after several hrs with no pause cheese, it was rage inducing let me tell you, if squeenix ever decide to remake ff9, they better not put that jump rope in there for a trophy or what not
I beat all the without pausing the game the manger took me 35 minutes to learn the pattern but the Seph fight is insane still trying to learn the pattern. Got it took an 40+ minutes to figure out Seph pattern though… do not recommend it.😂
Yeah this is a total BS minigame so i just stopped after beating dio. Rebirth should have focused more on its story then shoving constant minigames at us as filler.
Yeah…. Im not bothered i havnt played OG ff7. Ribbon and other OP accessories should have been locked behind super boss fights instead. The minigames just feel like chores i want to speed through and never go back to tbh. Luckily i got chocobo racing done for the cape and got all my dark matter but id prefer earning all that in combat levelling up materia in the process.
I feel like people have a skill issue about this minigame. It doesn't look that hard, and it tells you what your timing is if you get hit. Even landing hits look obvious. Just swing where the arm is hanging when you see a certain aura.
Literally 90 percent of the mini games are legit almost impossible to win. Unlike the Yakuza games where they actually give you a chance. Disappointing bet I love FF7 so much except these mini games that are super hard.
This minigame will make me quit the game all together... I am a platinum hunter and I did not have such difficulty with Bloodbourne as I do with this BS... And they force the achievement of beating Sephiroth on you... Nah.... loosing all will to continue the rest of the game even...
I am having so much trouble with this mini game too. The moves arent telegraphic enough, and it's more of a guessing game than actual skill. I managed to kill Shiva (barely) and I adopted the bashing pause method just to clear her. Using the pause method for Ifrit was so much easier, he was a lot more telegraphic than Shiva is
the sephiroth is irritating the he** outta me, even with the pause strategy, aside from it taking fir FREAKING EVER to get an attack in, he changes his stances to the point where you cant tell if hes doing an uppercut or a hook, its like he got 2 diff stances for each, i think the a**ho** that madethis game is marketing for PS5 controllers
1 - Saucer Brawler - 0:00
2 - Fat Moogle - 2:12
3 - Dio - 4:57
4 - Shiva - 6:36
5 - Ifrit - 8:08
6 - Shinra Middle Manager - 10:23
7 - Sephiroth - 14:02
You forgot yuffie when your searching for Dio in CH 12
this doesn't help at all, no narration, no tips, complete waste of my time. i can't tell the difference between a hook or upper cut.
For anyone struggling pause when they wind up! Its cheesy but it works i was getting frustrated on old sepphy 😢
@@jameswarner21lol.. that’s such a simple, yet smart, idea. Nice one.
@@informationservicesagreed.. zero point to this video and yes the move telegraphs are just terribly designed.. a lot of mini games in this title are hot trash at best; def not fun even when you figure them out.
i like the concept of this mini game, but devs really need to chill
not everyone have ninja reflexes
I found that if you pause a bunch of times when they start to swing you can see the swing frame by frame. its way easier to input
Concept player must dodge all AI attack then you can hit 1 is WRONG
Just hold the direction you wanna dodge before unpausing.
@@neuneu3455 just hold the directional input you wish to dodge before unpausing.
@@neuneu3455 for sure. I usually pause where I see his elbow is positioned and following anatomy. If his elbow is high, it’s a straight. So guard up. If it’s neutral, it’s a hook, so left or right. And if his elbow is coming from underneath, it’s an uppercut so hold down.
The shinra dude took me over 2 hours to beat, in the end I ended up taking photos of his movements and put them onto paper and wrote down the direction, Made it a hell of a lot easier to do especially with the pausing of the menu as well.
omg, i did all manually without pausing, but sephy is a near imposible with 12 dodge before we can hit him >.
I'm honestly surprised none of these guides are putting up screenshots of what the inputs should be.
How did they bring back the virtual brawler and not put Tifa in it
You didn't really beat him if you cheated with pause though.
Ironically that is literally what I was JUST about to do for Sephiroth xD
pretty fair, sephiroth can attack you 24 times before you can attack once. And he only need 3 hits to defeat you and you need 6
If you pause during his animations it lets you see where he'll attack and help you learn his combos, this was clearly badly designed to be stupidly difficult so i have 0 issues cheesing it
@@TheDeathon already did it but ty
@@TheDeathon It's honestly not even a cheese. It doesn't make it easy. You still have to learn what each punch looks like, which is surprisingly difficult, even with being able to stop it haha.
I choose to belive that they purposely made this insanely hard because everyone hated 3D brawler back in the day too. It's continuity, y'know? 😂
@@TheDeathon It wasn't badly designed, you are just bad.
The Sephiroth one is a joke. Each time I get hit once, I have to restart, because I've no hope in hell of winning otherwise, on top of that, sometimes you go the right direction to evade, but cloud blocks, so his gauge builds up bit by bit.
Hmm this might help for sephiroth red combo
If it starts from the right, his combo would be :
Right up, left, right, left up, left down.
If it starts from the left :
Left, left, right up, left down
When you're going for the last punch before LB his combo change into:
If he started on right up:
Right up, left, right, left up, left up, left down
There's one combo that started from left down but i haven't seen the full move set yet.
Hope it helps rather than pausing it on the red combo.
This one is stupid easy to cheese. Hit pause as they’re about to throw their punch. Hold the correct stick orientation to dodge as you unpause. Rinse, repeat, win.
Classic gaming
XD
For anyone who is struggling with Sephiroth I'll list all the combos encountered when I faced him up until the point I beat him, they are kinda complex but, his first red is always right stick up, left, right, left stick up, right stick down, his second red combo can vary he'll use either down on the left stick, right then up on the left stick or use left, left again, then up on the right stick, his 4th and 5th red combo attacks can also vary, I mostly got, up on the right stick, left, right, left stick up, right stick down, left stick up, but he can also throw you off and use right stick up, left, right, then left stick up followed by another left stick up, the final combo he used against me was left, left, right stick up, left stick up, hope this helps anyone struggling to beat him for achievement hunting.
Go into the options and lower the audio for music/SFX/song to 1. Leave master and SFX(sephiroths grunts) to 10
If he grunts before your action, it will be a BLOCK.
Also try changing your PS5 setting to 1440P
And following your TV’s/ monitors best guide on how to lower input lag.
Changing to performance mode, made a significant difference for me.
-fully winds punch
-pause
-look at pictures(you can use PS5 screenshot and edit the screenshot within the ps5 to add commands, then subsequently take a photo of it on your phone and scroll between pictures)
-perform action
If his left shoulder is UP, hit with right.
If his right shoulder is UP, hit with RIGHT
Make sure your tv/monitor is configured for the lowest input lag possible. Wire your controller and be patient.
Also change from graphics to performance, or vice versa.
(Theory)
GL
Thanks man putting it in performance mode helped a lot . I was able to beat him bcz of u
Hey the tip of taking screenshots on ps5 then editing them to add text was a good idea ty.
If you have to pause during a minigame to beat it....there is clearly a flaw with the minigame
@tbnwontpop8857So what the hell are you doing here?
WTF is this timing window. I always miss whether im too early or too late I have no idea. Am I supposed to be holding the direction?
Its easy as hell you just push the direction but right dodge is right stick and left dodge is left stick
What helped me in some minigames so far, is using performance mode instead of graphic. The game seems to be more precise at command inputs in the performance mode.
@@mrdemonictaco5879 its not just dodge you need to block sometimes and its a different direction for different types of punches, its ridiculously hard
@@GooseGumlizzard ive only done the first 3 battles so i wouldnt know
Just hold direction before you unpause
I looked for this video cause I felt like a genius figuring out on my own I could pause the game during the shinra boss fight and I wanted to see if other people had realized that too. Whoever managed to beat Sephiroth without pausing, I commend you.
Goddamned Dio, i can't tell which direction he's going to throw in and its driving me insane!
He makes different noises for when u need to go back or to a side pause the game and just watch him to see
Atleast he didn't have a finishing move that has a road roller
Hey lets lock one of the last sidequests behind the worst mini game, good idea.
If you pause during their animations you can see where they'll hit, its cheesing but tbh UPA and sephiroth are both just unfairly designed and you either have spend forever learning their attacks and combos and timing down to a T or hope your reflexes are magic, i beat UPA fair and square but for sephiroth i just f*ck it i have better things to do
I'm confused with the analog stick. In the second half of the manager fight do you keep moving left/right or up/down 😢
The pause button is your savior in this game
btw for anyone confused:
sephiroth always does this combo first:
R Up > L Left > R Right > L Up > R Down
then he cycles between:
R Up > L Left > R Right > L Up > R Down
or
L Left > L Left > R Up > L Down
or
L Down > R Right > L Up
one fact that i don't see often documented is that if you only need one hit then these last two combos qill be the same:
L Left > L Left > R Up > L Down
or
L Down > R Right > L Up
however, he can do the first combo, but change the end of it to what i believe is:
R Up > L Left > R Right > L Up > R Up > R Up > R Down
At least I think thats the combo, but can be even longer (I never finished the combo, beat him with one of the other ones)
This took a while but with the cheese pause strat it became pretty easy to figure out his movements after like half an hour to 1 hour
With all this sephiroth is still pain :D
During Sephiroth fight even while doing the pause trick, sometimes my movements end up in a block instead of a dodge. Is there a certain timing when to move the R/L stick to guarantee a dodge? I’m holding down the direction while paused then unpausing, 1/3 chance it ends up blocking instead of dodging.
After the audio cue, the input becomes a dodge instead of a block
This is because when u fight him u need to move the analog stick after u unpause the game. The fight with sephiroth is more tight timing with it and if u move the direction before unpause it will be registered as a "to soon"
That fat moogle fight is tilting me into the abyss. How the fuck am i supposed to see when i need to put R up or sideways i dont see the difference
I loathe it so much.
I am assuming you completed it by now, but the difference is he winds up for one and not the other.
I cheated and kept pausing the game when they were gonna punch so I had time to see which dodge I had to use
Fat Moogle was the worst ever lmao I just finally realized they tell you how to dodge on the screen before. I wouldn't know without this vid considering I was on retry 4 at that time 😂
@@HamburgerHELPMEPLSgenius.
for blocking/dodging. it seems to be if you input too early or too late then it does a block. need to pause on a good frame in the middle. just gotta make sure not to pause too late.
once you're paused you can just hold the direction then unpause and it'll do the thing.
I’m glad to see there’s a whole community I can join of people that this minigame is screwing 😂
Edit: finally beat Sephiroth. It depends on how tall he’s standing. If he doesn’t bend down it’s a straight. If he bends but looks like a straight, it’s a hook. If he bends deep and pulls back it’s an uppercut
This needs to be higher. I came back just after beating him. Took me like half an hour with your advice, due to constantly blocking instead of dodging.
Here’s my tip to everyone, just spam the start button to pause right before their atb gauge fills up, you can time it and see which direction they are bout to attack from and prepare your self to unpause it and then respond lol
Hey, just some advice for 3D brawler if your struggling on the shiva,ifrit,sephrioth fight or any in general, but if you learn the animations first of the moves they use, eventually you can pause the game as they pull back for their move, so when you un-pause the game you can block the input as should be able to have enough of a window to catch it if you do it a few times, it's a good method if anyones struggling!!!
Is anyone else having an issue where hitting up or right to dodge the left punch and left uppercut isn't working?
Sephiroth is all about knowing all 3 of his rage combo's. The others can be cheesed with pause method or through muscle memory and repetition to learn the fights.
How does the pausing work? I tried but I don’t dodge in time.
This minigame is interesting, but I hate how you sometimes can't tell if it's an overcut or uppercut as the wind up for them looks identical. Plus, you only have one try each move to get it right which sucks!
I got the thru the first 3.
Reading the moves can be done.
Just pause for the extra buffer
Sephiroth is much easier to read than the Shinra manager and Ifrit, compared
True but a mistake is MUCH more punishing and it’s an endurance game
These frustating ass minigames is the reason why I won't bother getting the platinum for this game.
Just pause it right when you see them start to swing so you know which way to go.
Tips for sephiroth fight when u used the pause method. Dont ever hold the analog before u unpause the game because it will always registered as to early.
Which are the differences in the hits of Shiva for correctly responding to them? I do not see any! But there must be, if not this would be pure hazard???
Holy crapppp you can pause!!!
Sephitoth fight, I just keep blocking and not dodging, and I NEVER get to attack. He dropped his arms once and neither one stuck out so I had no idea what to aim for. I dont have lightning fast reflexes or great memory. I pause had to take a picture then edit it with the proper response and all he ever does is block NEVER dodges. Then I never get to attack with blocks he has me after about 8 or 9 hits.
I know the answer to this. Its because u already move the analog before u unpause the button. I think with sephiroth the timing is more stricter.
For anyone struggling pause when they windup its a cheesey strat but i was struggling with old sepphy 😢
These mini games ruin the fun of this game I spent days on some of them just to be able to progress
Yeah I agree. The game can be hard with combat not mini games just stupid
Gitgud
The worst is the Hard frog game. They put the camera so close to the player you don't see the obstacles you need to jump
U have choice to skip them unless u aiming for platinum trophy. I find them fun as they’re simple yet challenging
@@Q8yDeathWish not all of them and yea I’m very adhd so I want to do everything but with this game that means spending a whole day trying to complete fort condor to move on with the intel
If they only added a specific sound for each attack, that would do the trick, as it is even in "cheating" while pausing, which in itself is sad, I can't do it, Sephiroth hits almost 15 times before you can land a hit, while you do so little damage, all the other ones I learned their angry pattern and it went fine!
how do you even get a hit on the enemy? my punches miss EVERY time
That split second decision making is godly difficult. This fat moogle is the reason Im still stuck at this game.
can you please give the inputs for when they are in rage mode? Or just in general I can’t tell what you’re doing with the analog stick
At this point, they should remove the mini games, or tone it the FUCK down. I don’t even care if it’s so easy that toddler can do it, JUST MAKE IT SO THAT YOU CAN BEAT THE MINIGAME
Sephiroths left movements are readable on his left side. On his right side they are not easily readable. His right hook could be an UP and not a right. And how can you tell? I have a hard time reading these judgements but everything else I read just fine. Any tips? Edit: I beatem. I really had to watch that right punch. Something about his hair locking with the punch or watching his shoulder. -_-;
Why does Cloud sometimes block instead of dodging? I’m sure its the right direction…Sephiroth is insane.
Dont move the analog stick before u unpause the game. It will be registered as too early
I’m having with this mini game. Any tips guys? I can’t seem to dodge or block correctly
Pause just as they attack. These minigames are kinda ridiculous on how much skill they require so don't feel too bad if they're too hard
What a stupid minigame impossible to tell what theyre gonna throw and even if you try to guess it ends up blocking instead of dodging
The biggest piece of advice that worked for me was throwing a punch every time he attacked. Instead of me dodging 20 times to get his ass to throw the first combo. Just dont get greedy after the first comple of hits landed. Mf starts letting me try to hit him & if you're too slow to recover, he will swing at you 😒
Other then that fuck the dev who made this mini game.
I’m guessing I have to come back because I can only access the first three fights in 3D brawler
The minigames in this game are incredible for the most part but it's like they designed the endgame minigames for 0.01% of the players to beat 😭did not struggle too much on moogle/dio/shiva/ifrit/yuffie until shinra middle manager, it's so hard to tell whether it's an uppercut or a hook...
Got it after like ~10 tries, you can tell if it's a hook if he sticks his arm out super fast. Turned off the music too and that helped.
To clarify: NONE of this is mandatory. It’s completely optional. Y’all are making out you need to beat this to progress when you don’t.
Please stop defending bad design choices.
You literally have to beat Sephiroth in here for the trophy.
Sorry, but what good is this vid if you don't show the right inputs to do?
Can you imagine if the devs decide to patch the pause button gimmick and stop you from doing that? Lol I would go crazy with the sephiroth one
Anyone know why your character sometimes blocks instead of dodging? I thought it was a timing thing but it's not. Sephiroth is destroying me because my character won't stop blocking instead of dodging. Edit: And of course I beat him right after posting this, my character decided to almost never block and only dodge.
Anyone know how I can get by Shiva?
I can’t tell which Left stick to flick? She’s silent so I can’t figure out the clues.
Stop the game as he did, If she fly then you pull to the side,, if she did not see where she look
@@MrNademebut I do not see any difference in her look!!! 🤔 any tips?
Why does it even give US an ATB meter when we can literally ONLY hit when they are in their "OK, NOW you can try and hit me" stance.
The enraged states are fixed combos, can someone tell me Sephiroth's so I don't have to pause buffer every. single. hit.
It might just be me but, this mini game is ass. The dodge mechanic feels random/unresponsive, like there’s some kind of input delay. You have no indication of where dio is about to hit cause his movements are also random or so it feels. All around I hated this mini game and Fort Condor
I loved fort condor but I loved it in the OG too
This mini game just like wtf when are they vulnerable so silly lol
@@jacoblarson8113 fort condor in intermission was great, idk what went wrong here lol
I think its ass too I don’t want to sit there for hours to get all the items
How does one dodge in the game I’ve been flicking the toggles left and right and I can’t seem to make him dodge just guard. Please help it’s making me so frustrated
L stick only works for dodging left and R stick only works for Dodging right. I bet that's your problem. Cannot use one stick to do all the dodges
For sephiroth fight u need to move the anslog stick after u unpause the game.
I actually found it harder pausing on sephiroth because I kept getting the timing wrong so I would block a lot of punches. It took me a while but I did get it I just never want to do it again
In ch.12 you can fight against Yuffie as well
My game has been glitching on 3D Brawler. Whenever I fight Rio I am pressing the analog stick and it doesn’t even respond and I get hit anyway. Screw 3D Brawler.
Are you using the correct stick? You need to use both the left and right stick in this game. Left stick dodges moves the opponent throws with their right arm and right stick dodges moves the opponent throws with their left arm. (They’re opposite since you’re facing them)
I’ve seen a lot of people try to dodge Dio in the story game by using the left stick only.
@@RAGEAlanBun I have used the both analog sticks and timed it well and Cloud doesn’t even move during the fight. I am even pressing the analog stick at the right time but in almost every instance Cloud is just frozen in place.
@@justinsullivan8250 You can only do one dodge input per punch.
It was hard watching dude do these fights, especially the first one which is beyond so easy and he somehoe made it look hard lol nonetheless still appreciate videos you do, i like watching others and seeing how good they are and finding things i may have missed
I felt like awoke ultra instinct when i discovered the pause buffer on my own 😅
You cheated, nothing "ultra instinct" about that.
pause strat is a game changer. Cant beat fat moogle for days then beating sepiroth in one run. Cant blame those ranting abouth these minigames, especially those who want a no guide run. But i like the challenge tho haha
Is this on hard mode or you can do this on normal play through?
How do I get the others to unlock
You have to beat the game first. Then finish all side quests and it will unlock Ultimate Party Animal Quest. When you beat Shinra Manager at the end of that quest then you unlock Sephiroth.
I did the sit up but this seems to bw out of my league. I give up
For the harder fights I just paused before they threw a punch to see what direction to hold
I don't know when to dodge. It doesnt seem to respond. :(
Oh god it's right stick. I was using left stick to press right. no wonder it never worked.
@@facelesshalo5174 im doing that to and it wont work either
@@ShadowFang24 For me I mistook dodging Right for pressing Right. It's Right on the Right thumbstick only. So Left stuff for left thumbstick. Right for right thumbstick.
The middle manager has a horrible telegraph of straight and uppercut
Question when you end up blocking a hit dose that mean you moved the in stick to early or late cues i'm doing the Sephiroth one now and the one that i have to move the stick to the left/right end up blocking and not dogging.
Block means the stick move was early in the animation or minimal frames before the hit connects.
Oh i got answer to this. Dont move the analog before u unpause 😂 it seems it because u move analog to early
I'm getting too old to be doing 100% for this game and my hands are not steady as it was before. I may need to hire a local gamer in my town to see if that person can achieve it for me.
imagine if that was the real sephiroth just playing that game
You can fight yuffie too
Thank fuck for the pause trick for Sephiroth
The analog stick commands are so confusing.
I used to love Gold Saucer in every games, but i have to say that all of those mini games start to really make me hate it.
This video may have been helpful if you would at least explain which button to push to Dodge which punch. All you can do is guess which punch to dodge.
Pretty annoying that Sephiroth gets 12-15 shots in plus rage before you can get a hit in.
Going on about 20 hours of attempts on this dude...his hooks and uppercut looks exactly the same. I haven't hit him once yet cause he takes like 10 turns before he tries his combo, which I usually either get hit or block instead of all dodges...only thing keeping me from a Plat trophy is a sadistic game of RPS
Did you end up beating it? This and the situp game both have me wanting to not pursue the platinum
Legit the sephiroth took me 5 hours of non stop restarting :( ..... I think I lost my voice from raging.
Thank you for pause trick.
Nearly as bad as tryin to get the ff9 jump rope trophy this is hard as fvck though 😂
God damn am i proud of myself, i got thst mofo sephiroth flawless after several hrs with no pause cheese, it was rage inducing let me tell you, if squeenix ever decide to remake ff9, they better not put that jump rope in there for a trophy or what not
Thx Master 🫡
I cant beat dio
Fuck almost all the mini games. Rebirth is being dragged down by them
I beat all the without pausing the game the manger took me 35 minutes to learn the pattern but the Seph fight is insane still trying to learn the pattern.
Got it took an 40+ minutes to figure out Seph pattern though… do not recommend it.😂
This mini game is what happens when you don’t have any play testers from outside the studio
This mini game is what happens when you include things from the original FF7.
Yeah this is a total BS minigame so i just stopped after beating dio. Rebirth should have focused more on its story then shoving constant minigames at us as filler.
The original FF7 had these mini games. You might not enjoyed it but US FF7 fans did.
Omg DIO from jojo no way!1!!1
(COMPLETELY unrelated but hell i had to do it before SOMEONE did)
Yeah…. Im not bothered i havnt played OG ff7. Ribbon and other OP accessories should have been locked behind super boss fights instead.
The minigames just feel like chores i want to speed through and never go back to tbh. Luckily i got chocobo racing done for the cape and got all my dark matter but id prefer earning all that in combat levelling up materia in the process.
I feel like people have a skill issue about this minigame. It doesn't look that hard, and it tells you what your timing is if you get hit.
Even landing hits look obvious. Just swing where the arm is hanging when you see a certain aura.
Bad controls are not skill issue.
Literally 90 percent of the mini games are legit almost impossible to win. Unlike the Yakuza games where they actually give you a chance. Disappointing bet I love FF7 so much except these mini games that are super hard.
Absolutely garbage, poorly designed mess of a minigame, I hope it doesn't come back in part 3.
This minigame will make me quit the game all together... I am a platinum hunter and I did not have such difficulty with Bloodbourne as I do with this BS... And they force the achievement of beating Sephiroth on you... Nah.... loosing all will to continue the rest of the game even...
Right at least Bloodborne was an enjoyable difficulty. This stuff is tedious.
Lmao i thought i was a genius for the pause tactic
6 : 37 Now Thats No Fair For Cloud He'd NEVER Hit A Woman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao no way you started cheating by pausing mid punch hahahaha that is hilarious lol
Work smarter not harder 😅
@@TheSymbiot3Venomyour comment made my day
guess you think it's fair that the AI gets 3-5 punches in with extra gain on limit break, compared to your 1 punch every 30 seconds ? lmao
I DO THAT TOO! Haha. I need to get this trophy quick before this gets patched out
Otherwise this guy's a slog.
Endurance fighter
I am having so much trouble with this mini game too. The moves arent telegraphic enough, and it's more of a guessing game than actual skill. I managed to kill Shiva (barely) and I adopted the bashing pause method just to clear her. Using the pause method for Ifrit was so much easier, he was a lot more telegraphic than Shiva is
the idea is good but this is yet another "Mini" game that is just not fun
ポーズかけるのがいいのか
the sephiroth is irritating the he** outta me, even with the pause strategy, aside from it taking fir FREAKING EVER to get an attack in, he changes his stances to the point where you cant tell if hes doing an uppercut or a hook, its like he got 2 diff stances for each, i think the a**ho** that madethis game is marketing for PS5 controllers