You don't choose to be gay, you randomly watch NatM as a kid because your parents think it'd be a fun idea to get you into history, and you get a little too invested in a relationship between a roman and a cowboy.
We shouldn't forget that Octavius was a Roman, and Ancient Greeks and Romans were incredibly gay. So really, Octavius is just historically accurate. Probably spurred by the presence of Jed, but that's just headcanon.
It seems like after Owen Wilson recovered himself from doing a suicide attempt (in which he had to drop out from Tropic Thunder because of that), he became more chill and relaxed with the role that he's playing and I love him for that
Fun Fact: That’s not Pompeii, The Pompeii amphitheater was buried in ash by Mt Vesuvius in 79 AD, meanwhile construction of The Colosseum was finished in 80 AD and are roughly 150 miles apart from each other. You can rest easy knowing that a few thousand miniature Roman soldiers aren’t getting buried in meters of ash or getting burnt alive in lava every single day!
As a child I asked my uncle “Are the little men like you and Jimmy?” he was so confused because he had no clue what I meant. A year later I asked again while watching the movie and he said “Maybe”
Remember when Owen Wilson (Jedediah) said in an interview that Jedediah and Octavius's relationship was "almost like a love story" only to be interrupted by the director who was quick to clarify "a BROTHERLY love," and Wilson just nodded hesitantly? Good times.
And hollywood will call them; close friends, besties, roomates, colleagues, anything but lovers. HOLYWOOD HATE LOVERS- Sidekicks, family, good pals, buddies, anything but lovers. HOLYWOOD HATES LOVERS
Man, I just realized they actually represented the Chinese immigrants working on the railroad in the first scene. That pretty much never happens in any kind of western
@@beth12svist Jed even repeated the line "crazier than a road lizard! Which is what Owen said in Shanghai Noon! Not to mention the scenes with Jed stuck in the hour glass perfectly matched the same scene in Shanghai Noon!! I'm in love with the parallels regardless of whether they're deliberate or not!!
@@justyourlocalcommeterd1986 This! I've thought this ever since the first time I watched the movie, but also, he ain't the brightest stick of dynamite
If I had a nickle for everytime Owen Wilson witnessed Pompeii and just barely escaped with his boyfriend who he originally hated I would have two nickles which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice
24:53 is an underrated moment for me, octavius could've ordered the soldier offscreen to toss the sword to jed, but he gave HIS own sword to jed before getting the other one for himself
I know right! I only rewatched the trilogy earlier in the year for the first time since pretty much the third movie came out. And now I’ve got all this fanfic I can read and new content. We stan.
I appreciate how they made Octavius more "open" with expressing his admiration for men. It's more historically accurate. There were lots of gay cowboys, but from what I understand, it was very hush hush out on the trails kinda stuff. No one's gonna look sideways at a good red blooded Roman citizen admirin' the male form.
@@Ake-TL "Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role."
i know this is a jedtavius comp but the moment robin williams rode up on the horse as teddy roosevelt was so bittersweet it hurt my heart... what an icon
The first movie came out when I was young. I didn't know Robin Williams played Genie at the time, so him as Teddy Roosevelt is truly a defining character role for me and he played it so well. Rest in peace, Robin Williams.
"Let us go son" *suddenly remembers this was Robin William's last movie* Well I definitely didn't expect to be in tears over a fucking Jedtavius compilation
@@steampunkemo9211 Technically Absolutely Everything was his last movie bc it came out in 2015, but he passed in August 2014 & the last night at the museum came out December 2014 so it was closest to his passing (& it was dedicated to him & Mike Rooney). But like eh details shmetails, that line absolutely rips your soul out of your body regardless regardless
The best explanation for this would probably be that the Pompeii diorama probably had some sort of lights-and-sound thing to "demonstrate" the lava erupting, while the gun never had bullets to begin with.
Probably never actually detailed the guns of the diorama like the Roman swords work but because a guns a mechanism it would Require all the parts to be detailed as such like an interesting idea would be a war hammer 40k figurine with a highly detailed gun might have it function if the barrel is drilled in
"Pure of heart... Dumb of ass" definitely the best description for these two adorable idiots. Plus Jedediah is truly a man ahead of his time (literally), not many guys willing to talk about their feelings like that in front of people.
I'm sorry, I know the pan out joke they do every movie where it shows how small they are isn't funny, but everytime it happens it cracks my shit up. I can't help it, I love physical comedy.
Also I'd like to point out one of my favorite moments, when Octavius give Jed his sword ( 24:52 ) instead of just giving an extra. The fact that he gave him his personal weapon then got a different one is super cute to me. Sorry if that didn't make sense ( -̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷄◞ω◟-̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷅ )
@@ronaleelopiga2927 😂 the funny thing is, I actually unironically like Cars 😂 idk where I know him from, all I know is that in 2012 when I watched a movie called "How do you know" I already knew him then as a kid, a decade ago 😂 so i really don't know how people missed him 🤷
@@madeniquevanwyk I was indifferent to it, I remember(Though I love the soundtrack XD) I do remember being super intrigued with his voice and his cowboy accent in Shanghai Noon and Knights to the point that if I heard it from somewhere else, I would straighten up and say "Owen?" XD
@@ronaleelopiga2927 exactly!! He's very distinct both in voice and mannerisms 😂 he's one of the actors I feel like, I don't see the character they're playing, that's just straight up my boy Owen with a moustache being a space cop 😂
The way I see it, each movie represents a phase of their relationship. In the first movie, they are enemies for the most part of it but become friends near the end. That friendship continues and transitions into the second movie, where it grows stronger and ~maybe~ starts to become something else, at least for Octavius. And then we have the third movie, where they have a established and strong relationship as friends now but things are a bit "fuzzy" because of Octavius' feelings for Jed and Jed being completely oblivious of Oct's feelings (and maybe his own feelings) until he finally has to confront them (when Oct asks him to hold his hand for the first time). So, throughout the movie, Octavius tries to "make moves" on Jed, showing Jed (in a subtle but not so subtle way) that he has a crush on him, which Jed slowly acknowledges and processes by himself until near the end of the movie, where he finally takes Octavius' hand as a symbol of him accepting and reciprocating his romantic feelings. So, to simplify: First movie - enemies to -> Second movie - friends to -> Third movie - lovers. Did I just spent approximately 30 minutes analysing the homoromantic subtext in a children's franchise? Yes, I did. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
I haven't watched this movie since I was a kid, I just realized they had Asian actors/people tying him down because they were the railroad workers. You can even hear them singing a work song in chinese as they're hammering in the nails. Wow that's such a cool detail.
Love this movie and its details! I also noticed that when Larry shows "magic" to Attila and the Huns, behind him stand a couple of Puritan Americans (who believed that magic is the work of the devil, Salem witch trials etc) and they're whispering to each other and glancing at Larry!
The funny thing is Romans had no problem with being gay, bisexuality was the norm. American settlers, however, were very Christian. So I'm going to imagine the Roman soldiers taking bets on how long until the get together, and having to explain to the railroad people that sexual tension between two men was a thing, and all the railroad workers going "ooooh"
I think it says a lot that the SECOND they stopped fighting for good in the first film, they became inseparable. They went RIGHT from always fighting to never leaving each others' side for more than a few seconds if they could help it and remained joined at the hip for the rest of the three movies and that less good animated movie too
The most underrated part of these movies is when Octavius literally tries to get President Obama to rescue his boyfriend. It makes me go 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 every time
@@goblinofthemoss3237 i believe they are talking about when octavius tried to get to the white house, he was going to try to recruit the living president
I'd like to thank the NatM trilogy for making me thirst for Rami, become overly interested in Napoleon, and become a full on Jedtavius shipper Also for having such wack ass comedy that my brain still laughs at it every time I rewatch the series
@Elle Longacre Coincidently, oct/ Steve Coogan and Jed/Owen wilson also played a gay/lgbtq+ character in some point of their career. Steve.C is married to Paul Rudd's character in Ideal Home 2018 And Owen Wilson is in an orgy where theres some guys in it (Zoolander) So shipping them is super easy barely an inconvenience.
My personal head-canon is that they were exes and that’s why they hated each other. It seemed too personal for it just to be “we fight because we’re on different sides.” Neither of them seemed to dislike the other side it was more like they just butted heads with each other and there people followed them. Also saying kids are too young to understand that people can be gay is so dumb. I remember when I was a kid I was thinking oh yeah they’re gonna kiss and then when they didn’t I was so confused. 11:26 Of course they’re gay. They don’t know how to drive!
I liked how they turned something that honestly could’ve been a good horror into probably one of the most memorable, fun childhood movies little me ever watched!
Can we also please mention that a flapjack is neither a biscuit or a scone lol I'm British so my definition of the above things will obviously differ from Americans xxx
@@Tyler_Mills26 I'm Italian and I had to use a translator for that, and the one I used says that in the UK is an oat cookie while in USA and Canada is more like a big panckake🤣
@alessiacavalleri7833 so a flapjack is made with porridge oats, butter and golden syrup (and some other ingredients) baked in the oven. A biscuit is sweet, flat and CRUNCHY. If it's soft and fairly large it's a cookie. A scone can be either sweet or savoury and is made with self raising flour, butter and water. Then you'd add either your sweet items such as chocolate, sugar and extract or savoury items such as cheese. Mix it together and place balls of the dough on a baking tray. They'll then rise and can be eaten with butter, cream and jam for the sweet ones or just butter for the savoury ones. Personally I'd say don't eat a scone dry because your mouth will end up drier than the Sahara xxx
17:12 in the Italian dub he says "you know there's 2 words come to mind when I hear you talk, hysterical and hysterical. And if I had to say a third hysterical yeah hysterical"
In the others trilogy you can see other roman soldiers and cowboys talking to each other or are standing next to each other. So these two have a powerful influence on their team.
I think it's really funny how Octavius didn't know what a flap jack, alluding they contain only the knowledge of their specific period, and yet Jedediah clearly knows about Gigantor despite the anime only coming out in the 1960s. now the only question is how this man even found out about anime
[33:41] notice how Octavius just stood there quietly, assuming he’s stunned seeing Lancelot the first time? Literally the scene afterward he says “You’ll rue the day you mocked us with your huge sword and hypnotic blue eyes! ….His eyes are very blue.” It’s the epiphany of “oh no he’s hot…”
Fun fact, in Roman times, yellow was considered THE most effeminate color, and men who were gay were referred to as having "yellow morals". The fact that part of Octavius's outfit is yellow means he's gay AF, historically speaking (or the costume designer never learned about color history)
Costume designers are either extremely well read on gay symbolism with good senses of humour, or are totally, absolutely clueless (most memorable examples are hankie code related lol). I'm never sure which 💀
@@pencil2680 If Wikipedia is anything to go by, neither Rome nor Greece. In both cases, it seems to have been a bit more of a legal procedure agreed upon by the families than an actual proposal, and no mention of wedding gifts from one spouse to another - not of that sort. Or, alternately, in Sparta, basically a kidnapping. ETA: But Roman brides wore a spearhead in their hair or it was used as a sort of comb symbolically (there's a great video by Janet Stephens explaining and showing this) and maybe that came from the groom? Wikipedia doesn't say. Either way, not the same kind of thing.
God this brings back so many memories, I think as a kid I shipped them (way before I had a word to describe it) on the inside(?) Like I swear I have a memory deep inside of me thinking that they should be a couple (or something along those lines). ALSO when I was a kid I had the biggest crush on Ahkmenrah, and watching this made that resurface. So yayyyyyyyyyyyy more fanfiction for me ;)
Historians (for the first time): _"And they were really gay friends."_ Edit: I would also like to point out that Octavius' nickname is **breathe in** _OCTODADDY_
I scrolling along, having fun reading people pointing out super small details that further show their relationship throughout the trilogy, and then something like this pops up. Now, this is tame compared to some other posts, but save it for fanfic!
Octavius' helmet is not coming off cause I think there are straps going under his chin wich hold the helmet completely still on his head :) dunno if it's accurate but at least it makes sense for that one scene lmao EDIT : OR maybe cause they're plastic figurines and the helmet is litteraly glued on
Steve Coogan and Owen Wilson were probably the best pick for thier characters in the series the fact they litterally got shrunk just for this movie shows committed
If I had a nickle for every time Owen Wilson was in a Pompeii scene with another man whose chatacters I shipped together, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I'm not saying that them being gay would have ruined these movies because these movies were bad to start out with, but I agree that Hollywood definitely has a case of the 'not gays' and this is a text book example, it's just because they want to sell this world wide and places like China, India, anywhere in the Middle East, Africa the majority are anti gay, and Hollywood doesn't really care about people they pretend to for money
did no one else notice that the second car that they got after the yellow one exploded is blue and red, wich are basically Jedediah and Octavius color schemes? My headcanon is they chose the car together so it had their colors.
24:42 at first i also thought "what the heck it literally got thrown all the way through the room and the helmet broke it?" But now i get it. It's the power of love
About the helmet being able to break the hourglass but no being thrown into the floor: it kinda has an explanation. Glass tends to break when applying a tiny point of pressure over its surface since it creates a lot of tension and pressure over only a tiny spot and the glass isn't able to re-conduct the energy tension created over the surface with enough time. That's why buses and any public transport vehicles that go through land have these tiny-ass pointy-ended hammers as the emergency tools to break the window glasses to escape from inside in case of an emergency like an accident :>
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You don't choose to be gay, you randomly watch NatM as a kid because your parents think it'd be a fun idea to get you into history, and you get a little too invested in a relationship between a roman and a cowboy.
REAL
I didn't even notice
Shh... They don't need to know the secret.
Me
so glad to be a gay cowboy enthusiast today
Jedediah: I..have feelings for you
Octavius: I…having feelings for you, my liege
The writers for the movie: the feeling was friendship
which neither had experienced
And historians will call them close friends, besties, room mates, colleagues
They were literally roommates, they shared the same exhibit room
"And they were roommates!"
*"Oh my God they were roommates."*
They could even have a child together and still be like: "their friendship was so strong they took on that challenge"
@@nadixunicorn228 OMGGGGGG
When Jed says "I ain't quittin' you!" it's almost a direct Brokeback Mountain quote. Jack says "I wish I knew how to quit you"
i think it was intended by the NATM writers
Oh they knew what they were doing
AHHH stop that's making me feel some sort of way 😩
@@real_lampcap I THOUGHT YOU WROTE "IT'S MAKING ME FEEL SOME SORT OF GAY" AND I'M HOLLERING
@@ArukiTsukaru LMFAO I WILL USE THAT
Friendly reminder that there are *TWICE* as many Jedtavius fics on AO3 as there are fics for all of James Cameron's Avatar.
this is the funniest sentence i’ve ever read
Not anymore after the second Avatar came out
@@hayhay713guess they'll have to make more
@@Cinnabun9 I’m on it
@@headlessharry40thank you for your service 🫡
Fun fact: the third movie had Octavius being so fruity, people accused the movie of “pushing an agenda”.
It's always expected from Karens.
IT’S DORIAN GREY ALL OVER AGAIN OH NO-
We shouldn't forget that Octavius was a Roman, and Ancient Greeks and Romans were incredibly gay. So really, Octavius is just historically accurate. Probably spurred by the presence of Jed, but that's just headcanon.
@@DyskordeEdroksyd_IsVerySad FACTS. Nero literally married a man cause he looked like his ex wife who he kicked to death
@@ShrimpShrompp Jesus Christ. There’s so much going on in a single sentence
24:53 Octavius gave Jed HIS sword instead of just getting someone else to give a sword, that’s love besties
DFJGJKBHJVDSBHJVDF SO TRUE
Wait I never noticed this is actually important
If I love someone, truly love them, they can use whatever they want from my armory.
@@nodeloliver6201 Hua Cheng from tgcf. I don't think I need to elaborate further.
@@Tebsi_amy mind instantly connected to this, so so real
No one can convince me Jedediah wasn't Owen Wilson's favourite character to play ever. This man goes so hard throughout the whole role
Same for Steve Coogan, he looks so happy playing Octavius
It seems like after Owen Wilson recovered himself from doing a suicide attempt (in which he had to drop out from Tropic Thunder because of that), he became more chill and relaxed with the role that he's playing and I love him for that
@@800Ms-k6n wait what? Why he tried to do that?😢
@@johnnyd.seducedmarilynm.7599 He was very depressed
@@johnnyd.seducedmarilynm.7599He suffered depression hard, that's why he felt the need to end his life which is really sad
So the people in the Pompeii exhibit have to relive running for their lives from lava over and over again each night.
Oof
Okay but here's the deal they never ever did it before because they didn't have the tablet... Which means is the entire exhibit just dead now...?
At least they actually got to run away from the volcano compared to the actual event…
too dark?
Fun Fact: That’s not Pompeii, The Pompeii amphitheater was buried in ash by Mt Vesuvius in 79 AD, meanwhile construction of The Colosseum was finished in 80 AD and are roughly 150 miles apart from each other. You can rest easy knowing that a few thousand miniature Roman soldiers aren’t getting buried in meters of ash or getting burnt alive in lava every single day!
As a child I asked my uncle “Are the little men like you and Jimmy?” he was so confused because he had no clue what I meant. A year later I asked again while watching the movie and he said “Maybe”
sorry but, who is jimmy?
@@michelerodrigez6735 I believe their gay uncle, which everyone has at least one of
@@michelerodrigez6735 Ngl probably the uncle's best friend
@@duncanevans8937 some people call theirs "Guncles"
@@michelerodrigez6735 my uncle
34:43 Theres no straight explanation for saying “We’re just as god made us” as Dancing Queen plays in the background.
IM CRYING
They knew exactly what they were doing
27:03 YALL HIS USERNAME IS OCTODADDY IT IS 1 AM I HAVE WORK TMW I SHOULD NOT BE CRYING LAUGHING RN
ADFGJGKKSHDFK PLS THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT EVER
HELPPP
Remember when Owen Wilson (Jedediah) said in an interview that Jedediah and Octavius's relationship was "almost like a love story" only to be interrupted by the director who was quick to clarify "a BROTHERLY love," and Wilson just nodded hesitantly? Good times.
And hollywood will call them; close friends, besties, roomates, colleagues, anything but lovers. HOLYWOOD HATE LOVERS- Sidekicks, family, good pals, buddies, anything but lovers. HOLYWOOD HATES LOVERS
If thats their idea brotherly love then I question if the director has ever had siblings...
Haha homophobic director much
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 maybe he was from Alabama
Is there a video anywhere where I can watch that interview?
Man, I just realized they actually represented the Chinese immigrants working on the railroad in the first scene. That pretty much never happens in any kind of western
its a very nice small detail to include! obv natm doesnt get everything right but western settings barely ever include poc
A good museum miniature set
I could swear I've seen it somewhere... and then I remembered that was Shanghai Noon which is another film with Owen Wilson in it. Huh.
@@jayman.kibble what song
@@beth12svist Jed even repeated the line "crazier than a road lizard! Which is what Owen said in Shanghai Noon!
Not to mention the scenes with Jed stuck in the hour glass perfectly matched the same scene in Shanghai Noon!!
I'm in love with the parallels regardless of whether they're deliberate or not!!
I can’t describe how much I love the scenes where they zoom in and out to show Jed’s and Oct’s perspective and what any normal human would see lmao
I appreciate the commitment to the bit in every movie
Those are my favorite parts lmao
The instant it cuts to a silent wide shot, is also always the instant my drink comes out my nose
These are my favorite parts of the movies!!
I always loved that Jed insisted on sitting directly under the falling sand in the hourglass
Dies with pride
he could've climbed up and sat on the sand by the side each time he got deeper in it but nope 😂
he lives (and dies) for the drama
@@justyourlocalcommeterd1986 This! I've thought this ever since the first time I watched the movie, but also, he ain't the brightest stick of dynamite
Gotta make sure his husband knows how much trouble he's in
If I had a nickle for everytime Owen Wilson witnessed Pompeii and just barely escaped with his boyfriend who he originally hated I would have two nickles which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice
OMG
i understood that reference
I LOVE THIS COMMENT
also both of the boyfriends are british
Hol up.... This happened twice??
24:53 is an underrated moment for me, octavius could've ordered the soldier offscreen to toss the sword to jed, but he gave HIS own sword to jed before getting the other one for himself
Was not expecting one of my comfort movie series to come back into my life out of the blue but I’m not complaining
I know right! I only rewatched the trilogy earlier in the year for the first time since pretty much the third movie came out. And now I’ve got all this fanfic I can read and new content. We stan.
fr, I honestly forgot about this movie even tho I used to rewatch it all the time lol. All the new content makes me wanna watch the series again :’)
Love ur profile pic, [REDACTED]. Ain't nothing in there but Amelia Airheart's bones.
Lmao, same!
Omg this was my comfort series too 😭✨👌🏻
I knew Oct was fruity when he denied that he wanted to hold Jed's hand and Jed's like "Mhmm" With a smug face. That was a LiTtLe Bit fRuItY
Don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious
Time stamp
@@playerxd4519 29:58
Fruity as a orchard of figs.
I appreciate how they made Octavius more "open" with expressing his admiration for men. It's more historically accurate. There were lots of gay cowboys, but from what I understand, it was very hush hush out on the trails kinda stuff. No one's gonna look sideways at a good red blooded Roman citizen admirin' the male form.
True.
🤧 nosebleed
Depends from what I’ve heard, was less socially acceptable during Roman Republic
@@Ake-TL "Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role."
@@elijahharmel8450nice argument senator but why don't you back it up with a source
the fact that Owen Wilson has played two different characters who’ve taken their husbands on a date to Pompeii is brilliant
The fact that I love both ships
@@nyrshano6087 The fact that you deserve respect for that
The fact that I love them both
I was about to ask who else he played but then I remembered
Jedediah and Mobius;
Did I really spend 38 minutes looking at 2 tiny men falling slowly in love ?
Yes
Omg there is 38 minutes!!🤣
The best way to spend thirty eight minutes
Yes.
They may be small, but their hearts are large, metaphorically
We all did
i know this is a jedtavius comp but the moment robin williams rode up on the horse as teddy roosevelt was so bittersweet it hurt my heart... what an icon
WHAT? Roosevelt was Robin Williams?? Now that makes me even sadder
@@Pollicina_dbYeah….
The first movie came out when I was young. I didn't know Robin Williams played Genie at the time, so him as Teddy Roosevelt is truly a defining character role for me and he played it so well. Rest in peace, Robin Williams.
Take the hand son.
Smile my boy, it’s sun rise.
I miss him
"Let us go son" *suddenly remembers this was Robin William's last movie* Well I definitely didn't expect to be in tears over a fucking Jedtavius compilation
Glad I'm not the only one who went in tears over that
Excuse me while I go cry in the corner
Wait, what???
@@steampunkemo9211 Technically Absolutely Everything was his last movie bc it came out in 2015, but he passed in August 2014 & the last night at the museum came out December 2014 so it was closest to his passing (& it was dedicated to him & Mike Rooney). But like eh details shmetails, that line absolutely rips your soul out of your body regardless regardless
Definitely not me crying over my childhood, nah could never be me :')
So the tablet can make the Pompeii diorama generate real lava but can't make Jed's guns work?
The best explanation for this would probably be that the Pompeii diorama probably had some sort of lights-and-sound thing to "demonstrate" the lava erupting, while the gun never had bullets to begin with.
@@kathie6106 That makes sense, since it sounds like the gun itself works (you can hear clicks when he tries to fire) but the barrels are just empty
Probably never actually detailed the guns of the diorama like the Roman swords work but because a guns a mechanism it would
Require all the parts to be detailed as such like an interesting idea would be a war hammer 40k figurine with a highly detailed gun might have it function if the barrel is drilled in
Not to mention, it generates urine for Dexter to unleash on Larry.
"Pure of heart... Dumb of ass" definitely the best description for these two adorable idiots.
Plus Jedediah is truly a man ahead of his time (literally), not many guys willing to talk about their feelings like that in front of people.
I'm sorry, I know the pan out joke they do every movie where it shows how small they are isn't funny, but everytime it happens it cracks my shit up. I can't help it, I love physical comedy.
it is funny tho lmfao
I have watched the series countless of times now and everytime that scenes happen i just can't help but crack a smile
I couldn’t figure out why the train scene in ant man was so funny to me… it was bc of night at the museum
23:05 Al Capone and Napoleon's reaction also add to the comedy of that scene
Therefore it serves it’s purpose of comedy :)
Fun fact, after Octavius breaks the glass of the hourglass, the shattered hole seems to be in a heart-like shape
omg it is
man even the hourglass ships it 😂
OMFG YOU'RE RIGHT
25:44 for those who are wondering :)
Omg even the hourglass ships them 😊☺️
Also I'd like to point out one of my favorite moments, when Octavius give Jed his sword ( 24:52 ) instead of just giving an extra. The fact that he gave him his personal weapon then got a different one is super cute to me. Sorry if that didn't make sense ( -̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷄◞ω◟-̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷅ )
It totally makes sense. It means that Octavius is putting Jed first, and that he trusts Jed with his personal (and probably favorite) sword.
Yesss exactly that scene made me happy too. It was adorable 😌
I would have liked your comment but you have 777 likes and I don’t want to ruin that so I will just comment : *_YES_*
Even though the sword's spiky, it would feel like their fire ants.
That is never not funny😅😂😂😂😂😂
To be fair, the zoom outs where you can't hear them is funny.
I agree
That's easily one of my favourite jokes in the entire trilogy. The third one is my favourite of that joke 😂
After hearing that some people didn't know Owen Wilson before Loki, I have lost my faith in humanity.
Oh come on, are you serious?? If they didn't know Owen then they're just too damn young. Because he's everywhere!!
@@madeniquevanwyk Dude I knew Owen because of Shanghai Noon and and this movie!
...Then added by Cars, sadly XD
@@ronaleelopiga2927 😂 the funny thing is, I actually unironically like Cars 😂 idk where I know him from, all I know is that in 2012 when I watched a movie called "How do you know" I already knew him then as a kid, a decade ago 😂 so i really don't know how people missed him 🤷
@@madeniquevanwyk I was indifferent to it, I remember(Though I love the soundtrack XD)
I do remember being super intrigued with his voice and his cowboy accent in Shanghai Noon and Knights to the point that if I heard it from somewhere else, I would straighten up and say "Owen?" XD
@@ronaleelopiga2927 exactly!! He's very distinct both in voice and mannerisms 😂 he's one of the actors I feel like, I don't see the character they're playing, that's just straight up my boy Owen with a moustache being a space cop 😂
Jed saying “let’s ride” is the most boyfriend thing he could have said to his passenger princess gf Octavius 12:58
Idk if this is relevant, but can Octavius even drive?? 😭
Ngl that scene reminded me of Ken (from Barbie) somehow
I would like to thank the Night at the Museum franchise for inventing gay people
@@LaloSalamancaGaming69 what
@@LaloSalamancaGaming69 good, we don’t want homophobes in the fandom anyways
I was literally obsessed when I was little-
Guess we know where the ✨gay✨ came from
@@LaloSalamancaGaming69 see you say that but just prove that the Straights ™ have no taste. Congrats U played yourself
@@LaloSalamancaGaming69 why are you here then 💀💀
Octavius is so obviously simping for Jedediah-and I saw that little smirk after the vent hand-holding question. You’re fooling no one, Jed 😏
I almost forgot what a potentially healthy relationship these two have
The way I see it, each movie represents a phase of their relationship.
In the first movie, they are enemies for the most part of it but become friends near the end. That friendship continues and transitions into the second movie, where it grows stronger and ~maybe~ starts to become something else, at least for Octavius. And then we have the third movie, where they have a established and strong relationship as friends now but things are a bit "fuzzy" because of Octavius' feelings for Jed and Jed being completely oblivious of Oct's feelings (and maybe his own feelings) until he finally has to confront them (when Oct asks him to hold his hand for the first time). So, throughout the movie, Octavius tries to "make moves" on Jed, showing Jed (in a subtle but not so subtle way) that he has a crush on him, which Jed slowly acknowledges and processes by himself until near the end of the movie, where he finally takes Octavius' hand as a symbol of him accepting and reciprocating his romantic feelings.
So, to simplify: First movie - enemies to -> Second movie - friends to -> Third movie - lovers.
Did I just spent approximately 30 minutes analysing the homoromantic subtext in a children's franchise? Yes, I did. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
DON'T APOLOGISE, I love it. It's... _sniffle_ beautiful.
@@HOUNDOFTARTARUS Thank you!!
Time well spent ^^
This is why I still exist. The subtext of subtext
You! You understand it *perfectly*!
Is no one gonna acknowledge Octavius’ RUclips name “Octodaddy”
that’s what jed calls him elsewhere
dadliest catch!
Damn😳
@@acookie7548 WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT 😭
YES! Finally someone say about it LOL
“You can’t do this. I’m a Roman general. I have rights.” WAS THE BEST LINE EVER
8:42 me, gazing longingly into Ahkmenrah's eyes: man... Rami sure did look pretty there...
Last time I watched this movie I finally realised I did have a celebrity crush and it was him
FUCK I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS FOCUSED ON RAMI IN THIS SCENE HELP
@@miadelique I assure you,you're not the only one,all I could do was stare at him 😭😭😭
TOTALLY ME
ugh I love him
I haven't watched this movie since I was a kid, I just realized they had Asian actors/people tying him down because they were the railroad workers. You can even hear them singing a work song in chinese as they're hammering in the nails. Wow that's such a cool detail.
Love this movie and its details! I also noticed that when Larry shows "magic" to Attila and the Huns, behind him stand a couple of Puritan Americans (who believed that magic is the work of the devil, Salem witch trials etc) and they're whispering to each other and glancing at Larry!
the way the roman soldiers are lined up is also accurate along with their gear
I remember when i was a little kid, not knowing any better i looked up to my mom stary eyed: "There were chinese cowboys?"
And they were speaking in Cantonese as well! A lot of these railroad workers came from southern China so it is pretty accurate.
@@MattSpencer-uy1el Nah, if I was your mom my dumbass would say ".... Maybe they wanted new friends??"
"an enemies-to-friends-to-lovers, mutual pining 100k slowburn" my favourite fanfic!
They carried the trope
The funny thing is Romans had no problem with being gay, bisexuality was the norm. American settlers, however, were very Christian. So I'm going to imagine the Roman soldiers taking bets on how long until the get together, and having to explain to the railroad people that sexual tension between two men was a thing, and all the railroad workers going "ooooh"
Adding onto this, the only problem the Roman's somewhat had with being gay was if you were the bottom
@@LMKgoddess 😂 and the two sides argue over who is the bottom 😂😂
@@cosmicriptid I’m just imagining this and I can’t stop laughing
@@rushingwater2.0 lol
cowboys were really gay though so Jedediah's probably chill
I think it says a lot that the SECOND they stopped fighting for good in the first film, they became inseparable. They went RIGHT from always fighting to never leaving each others' side for more than a few seconds if they could help it and remained joined at the hip for the rest of the three movies and that less good animated movie too
25:57 "this ol' cowboy just got to second base" bruh
forgetting the context of that scene really gave me whiplash hearing that hahah
They definitely fucked
@@otterpopgames9824 wITH WHAT??? WITH HOW??
@@mourningdewey THAT DOESN’T MATTER THEY F^CKED
@@ms.qu33n..br4t3 BSCCJDNCSKXHC 😭
The most underrated part of these movies is when Octavius literally tries to get President Obama to rescue his boyfriend. It makes me go 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 every time
now i want obama to be in the movie and just show up at a museum full of fighting exibits XD
It’s Abraham Lincoln XD
@@goblinofthemoss3237 i believe they are talking about when octavius tried to get to the white house, he was going to try to recruit the living president
I can't believe I never thought about this but why do we never question the fact that Jed can drive
A cowboy can ride/drive anything
Just give him enough time.
Source: **[Puts on cowboy hat]**
Probably because it's McQueen.
Prob because he rides horses so as a horseback rider is pretty similar to
Wether it’s romantic or completely platonic, the chest bump bit is adorable
36:18 The fact that this was Robin Williams' last movie before he went ruins me
He was ready...😭😭😭
The fact that his last lines were him saying goodbye 😭
His last lines were smile the sun is rising 😭
I'd like to thank the NatM trilogy for making me thirst for Rami, become overly interested in Napoleon, and become a full on Jedtavius shipper
Also for having such wack ass comedy that my brain still laughs at it every time I rewatch the series
Literally the same thing happened to me, what
Romans and Cowboys both historically gay. This ship is just accurate.
Eh.....i think they are just bros. You aren't wrong though. Humans have been gay for a while.
@Elle Longacre
Coincidently, oct/ Steve Coogan and Jed/Owen wilson also played a gay/lgbtq+ character in some point of their career.
Steve.C is married to Paul Rudd's character in Ideal Home 2018
And Owen Wilson is in an orgy where theres some guys in it (Zoolander)
So shipping them is super easy barely an inconvenience.
Historians: and they were good friends
History:Gay!? So very Gay!
dont forget the gayest of all: european pirates
@@Marcuss99 I need to check that out
My personal head-canon is that they were exes and that’s why they hated each other. It seemed too personal for it just to be “we fight because we’re on different sides.” Neither of them seemed to dislike the other side it was more like they just butted heads with each other and there people followed them.
Also saying kids are too young to understand that people can be gay is so dumb. I remember when I was a kid I was thinking oh yeah they’re gonna kiss and then when they didn’t I was so confused.
11:26 Of course they’re gay. They don’t know how to drive!
So this ship is basically exes who rekindled what they had lol
@@spicysalad3013 thinking about it, they’re basically the OG Bubbline if the “exes to friends to rekindled love” trope is true :D
I liked how they turned something that honestly could’ve been a good horror into probably one of the most memorable, fun childhood movies little me ever watched!
“What’s a flapjack?”
“It’s like a biscuit or a scone.”
The fact that he answered him directly instead of brushing off that question.👌🏻
Can we also please mention that a flapjack is neither a biscuit or a scone lol I'm British so my definition of the above things will obviously differ from Americans xxx
@@Tyler_Mills26 they’re both sharing a brain cell and it’s not firing.
@@Tyler_Mills26 I'm Italian and I had to use a translator for that, and the one I used says that in the UK is an oat cookie while in USA and Canada is more like a big panckake🤣
@alessiacavalleri7833 so a flapjack is made with porridge oats, butter and golden syrup (and some other ingredients) baked in the oven. A biscuit is sweet, flat and CRUNCHY. If it's soft and fairly large it's a cookie. A scone can be either sweet or savoury and is made with self raising flour, butter and water. Then you'd add either your sweet items such as chocolate, sugar and extract or savoury items such as cheese. Mix it together and place balls of the dough on a baking tray. They'll then rise and can be eaten with butter, cream and jam for the sweet ones or just butter for the savoury ones. Personally I'd say don't eat a scone dry because your mouth will end up drier than the Sahara xxx
@@Tyler_Mills26 American here. They flapjacks are still not a biscuit or a scone in American definition either 😂
Jedediah putting Octavius in that pillory/stockade is kinda kinky ngl
Oop
🤣😂🤣😂
Knowing several guys from the community personally, Jed and Octavius both have strong oldschool leather gay energy
Wait where in the vid is that?
**Bornhub intro plays**
17:12 in the Italian dub he says
"you know there's 2 words come to mind when I hear you talk, hysterical and hysterical. And if I had to say a third hysterical yeah hysterical"
I love how Larry is basically the dad and Roosevelt is the grandpa
26:28 "You can't catch it the light! It's as elusive as human happiness!" Jed, are you okay-
He’s not wrong tho
@@ThePigeon207well Owen Wilson did try to off himself at one point.
@@carsfan1995 That sucks to hear. Great actor
He's a cowboy. Of course he ain't okay. But on he goes, cuz that's what cowboys do.
@@carsfan1995 😨
The fact that Jed could just keep climbing to the top of the sand instead of just sitting in the middle to be consumed, like dude
he wanted the drama of it 💀💀
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT LMAO
In the others trilogy you can see other roman soldiers and cowboys talking to each other or are standing next to each other. So these two have a powerful influence on their team.
Well of course, they are their leaders
“We’re just as god made us” interesting piece of dialogue…
25:44 GUYS GUYS THE HOURGLASS THE HOLE IN THE GLASS IS A HEART LOVE WINS
I think it's really funny how Octavius didn't know what a flap jack, alluding they contain only the knowledge of their specific period, and yet Jedediah clearly knows about Gigantor despite the anime only coming out in the 1960s.
now the only question is how this man even found out about anime
One of the previous nightguards, if I had to guess
He probably heard the name and it never left his vocabulary
"never thought I'd ever fight alongside a Legionary"
"How about alongside a Friend"
"Yeehaw I could do that"
People are gonna get mad at this lol
"So I just have to trust the word of two Lokis?"
"...How about the word of a friend?"
[33:41] notice how Octavius just stood there quietly, assuming he’s stunned seeing Lancelot the first time?
Literally the scene afterward he says “You’ll rue the day you mocked us with your huge sword and hypnotic blue eyes! ….His eyes are very blue.”
It’s the epiphany of “oh no he’s hot…”
😊
Fun fact, in Roman times, yellow was considered THE most effeminate color, and men who were gay were referred to as having "yellow morals". The fact that part of Octavius's outfit is yellow means he's gay AF, historically speaking (or the costume designer never learned about color history)
prob the custom designer had their own agenda lol
LMAO
I mean considering how much he talks about men's beauty..
Costume designers are either extremely well read on gay symbolism with good senses of humour, or are totally, absolutely clueless (most memorable examples are hankie code related lol). I'm never sure which 💀
I'd like to think the costume designers knew since they did seem to put in a lot of historical research for the movie
I just noticed, the Ant-Man movies do the “size comparison” joke too lol.
“Oooooh Pompeii” is of the funniest scenes in cinema history
You are the backbone of this fandom
octavius could literally have gotten someone else to give their sword to jed and kept his own but he didn’t 👀 coincidence?
Also in some cultures (I think it ether Greek, Roman, or Vikings) they had a tradition of proposing marriage with a sword
@@pencil2680 INTERESTING
@@acookie7548
Just reread my comment and it’s ether a marriage proposal or a wedding gift, still don’t remember what culture did it tho :/
@@pencil2680 If Wikipedia is anything to go by, neither Rome nor Greece. In both cases, it seems to have been a bit more of a legal procedure agreed upon by the families than an actual proposal, and no mention of wedding gifts from one spouse to another - not of that sort. Or, alternately, in Sparta, basically a kidnapping.
ETA: But Roman brides wore a spearhead in their hair or it was used as a sort of comb symbolically (there's a great video by Janet Stephens explaining and showing this) and maybe that came from the groom? Wikipedia doesn't say. Either way, not the same kind of thing.
I love how Octavius is thirsting over Lancelot at every chance he gets 😄
As someone who's stepped on an earring more times I can count, if those swords can damage the shoes that bad they would fucking hurt
im so glad i dont wear earrings anymore 😭
Pffff I love how Octavious is just unabashedly gay
And then there’s Jed, who is in denial
35:06 WAIT YESSSSSS
“It’s as elusive as human happiness!” Why am I just now catching that line? That’s probably the most relatable line I’ve ever heard.
God this brings back so many memories, I think as a kid I shipped them (way before I had a word to describe it) on the inside(?) Like I swear I have a memory deep inside of me thinking that they should be a couple (or something along those lines).
ALSO when I was a kid I had the biggest crush on Ahkmenrah, and watching this made that resurface. So yayyyyyyyyyyyy more fanfiction for me ;)
Rami Malek is a fine fine man
I agree with ur statement 100%
Oh my god, Ahkmenrah was everything to child me. I had such a crush on him and it spawned my ancient Egypt obsession
@@Alex-jg2bc same
Are we the same person because this whole comment applies to me as well
Historians (for the first time): _"And they were really gay friends."_
Edit: I would also like to point out that Octavius' nickname is
**breathe in**
_OCTODADDY_
Actually it was proven that Romans and Spartans were pretty gay
@@jonathansauceda589 Perfection
Now all I can think from that is that octavius is the top and jeds the bottom. Like he had to get the daddy thing from somewhere 👀
@@jonathansauceda589 actually you're talking bs
*walks up to a couple* So which of you is the cowboy and which is the Roman general?
BAHAHAHAHAHA UNDERRATED
So lemme get this straight. Loki wasn't the first time Owen Wilson went to Pompeii. Got it.
Straight, huh?
@@zombiedude9826 ironic
The fact that this video is more than half an hour long 😭and the fact that i sat through the entire thing
The fact that I did it twice 💀
@@T-Law. I’ve done it at least 5+ times now
Jedidah "I dont like to be manhandled!"
Octavius "that's not what you said last night......."
omg 😭😭😭 crying of laughter
I have scrolled for thirty minutes to find this comment and I am loving it!
I scrolling along, having fun reading people pointing out super small details that further show their relationship throughout the trilogy, and then something like this pops up. Now, this is tame compared to some other posts, but save it for fanfic!
You don't CHOOSE to be gay, you watch NatM as a child and become invested in their relationship a little too much.
Meet Lawrence Daley: Night guard, adventurer, and couples counselor.
..and apparently the man everyone simps for.
I just love how everyone shipped them before knowing what shipping even is
Octavius' helmet is not coming off cause I think there are straps going under his chin wich hold the helmet completely still on his head :) dunno if it's accurate but at least it makes sense for that one scene lmao
EDIT : OR maybe cause they're plastic figurines and the helmet is litteraly glued on
yeah i noticed the straps in a later scene and forgot to go back to edit it lmao
@@gaygh0stt lmao mood
Well the helmet wouldn’t be glued on because later in the movie, you see Octavius with his helmet off in the tiny car
@@queerlittlecactus8749 And when he broke Jed out from the hourglass.
"It feels good, doesn't it, Jedediah?" "Boy, you said it!" That sounds so different out of context
Oof yes, octodaddy
@@VenaMarena555 LMFAOO
LMAO YEAH
More people should acknowledge the "Yeehaw! Come on Ocky" and then the genuine "Yeehaw! Woo!" In return, its golden
I didn’t even hear the yehaw wooo when I first saw the vid. They are so cute
I love their action scenes so much. From their perspective it looks so badass, but then when the camera pulls back, it’s equally as hilarious.
Octavius breaking Jedadiah out of the hourglass was a moment we’re he had a gay fueled surge of disproportionate strength to save his beloved.
Octavius & Jedediah: Not cooperating
6:11 - So, you have chosen couples counseling
Steve Coogan and Owen Wilson were probably the best pick for thier characters in the series
the fact they litterally got shrunk just for this movie shows committed
the way he called him “Oci” almost as soon as they start working together and become “friends” 🥺
“We’re just as god made us”
This has so many connotations.
I've never been more distressed than when Jed got trapped in the hourglass
34:38
"We're just as god made us."
Me: fcuking superb you fruity little miniatures
If I had a nickle for every time Owen Wilson was in a Pompeii scene with another man whose chatacters I shipped together, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Just wanted to let everyone know I've added captions for all the dialogue! It might be a little off since I mainly went by ear, but it's something.
Lthank you for making this♡
This video makes me so happy! I can’t believe how many times Jed says Gigantor tho. Like, wow🤯.
Also, good job👍
THANK YOUUUUU 🙏🏼❤️
Un romano emperador llamado octavio y un vaquero del viejo oeste
I'm not saying that them being gay would have ruined these movies because these movies were bad to start out with, but I agree that Hollywood definitely has a case of the 'not gays' and this is a text book example, it's just because they want to sell this world wide and places like China, India, anywhere in the Middle East, Africa the majority are anti gay, and Hollywood doesn't really care about people they pretend to for money
12:06 cried as a CHILD?! I still cry to this day, I know theyre gonna survive but it still hits different
did no one else notice that the second car that they got after the yellow one exploded is blue and red, wich are basically Jedediah and Octavius color schemes?
My headcanon is they chose the car together so it had their colors.
❤
24:42 at first i also thought "what the heck it literally got thrown all the way through the room and the helmet broke it?" But now i get it. It's the power of love
It is the power of love !!!!
He use tee hee power of love!!
Please someone get that reference
Momento Mori, btw
Could also be that all that tossing around weakened it? Probably not though
@@SydneyMann-s4r naaah it's definitely the power of love
Owen Wilson you never dissappoint
I love Owen Wilson, he always has this sense of charisma in his delivery.
About the helmet being able to break the hourglass but no being thrown into the floor: it kinda has an explanation. Glass tends to break when applying a tiny point of pressure over its surface since it creates a lot of tension and pressure over only a tiny spot and the glass isn't able to re-conduct the energy tension created over the surface with enough time. That's why buses and any public transport vehicles that go through land have these tiny-ass pointy-ended hammers as the emergency tools to break the window glasses to escape from inside in case of an emergency like an accident :>