How about the war with the kong species where was mothra during this time was she willing to fight a mostly peaceful species of kongs to remain godzillas most loyal ally?
The fact that Mothra is viewed by Godzilla as sort of a guiding spirit makes me imagine him quoting Ludwig the accursed upon her death: "You were at my side all along, my true mentor. My guiding moonlight." then Ludwig the holy blade starts playing when he goes thermonuclear
Even though Godzilla and Mothra are seen to be benevolent Titans, even they aren’t above using brutal force to ensure that the balance stays in one peace. Godzilla himself could potentially be even more destructive than any of the hostile Titans he’s had to contend with.
@@truthoftheuniverse4179 You do realize that godzilla is the only species that survive from the war against Kong's species right? While Kong's Species still have decent amount of population Godzilla is the only one that survives. And on top of that Kong's species used to ripped the back of Godzilla's species to turned them into a weapon. Godzilla is the victim here in my opinion.
For too long I've just thought of Godzilla and Mothra as guardians of the planet, never would I have guessed that they ruled as noble tyrants in order to keep the world stable. Well, you learn new stuff every day and I'm looking forward to all that's coming next in the monster verse.
@Skelsius that's because a good bit of the Fandom are kids that can't think for themselves in regards to theories. You give them a random theory and make it sound detailed and they'll believe it
@@DireNemesis unfortunately yes 😔. While I am glad newer younger fans are here they are also a pain to deal with when it comes to their toxicity or their lack of knowledge or their inability to think for themselves.
Idk,I feel like you're misunderstanding them. Yes,Godzilla is the guardian that rules with an iron fist,and has a relatively big ego,but wiping out an entire Titans' species? That goes against everything Titanus Gojira fight for,not even for Kongs,a species that was becoming very dangerous for the Hollow Earth ecosystem,that was a solution,they killed a few of them and exiled the remaining to Skull Island,that's more than enough of an example for everyone else. And,man,you did Mothra quite dirty,of course she cares about the individuals,she had people that venerated her as a benevolent and protective deity,so,being a tyrant that goes as far as wiping out a whole species to get to the perfect balance and control,is totally out of her range too. If it was the way you portrayed them,humanity was already far gone since the first glimpse of pollution intoxicating the planet,and I get it,you wanted to believe they had a dark side,but,honestly,you're quite off-road this time
💯 Plus this man even said Godzilla enjoys when titans bow to him when in reality ,there is no implication that shows Godzilla being in joy when titans submit to him
@@tonyg7718 no,they are onto something there,he felt powerful because he defeated King Ghidorah,at that point,he was the undisputed Alpha,and that's when his ego began to show. Every Titan must bow to him,or otherwise,he will inflict them a severe lesson,like he did with Scylla and Amuluk,the killing part is reserved only for the ones that are an actual threat to the whole planet's status quo,that's also why he didn't straight up kill Kong,he wasn't a threat for the planet,only for his status of Alpha Titan. Godzilla went heavy on him because he felt disrespected,his ego didn't like Kong's continuous challenges,and his refusal to submit,but,ultimately,respected Kong's bravery even in front of death,and let him die in peace (if he even knew he caused his death,which was stopped by the HEAV explosion of course)
@@gianmarcozampella5138 Yes he may have an ego, but he clearly doesn’t even enjoy being king. Hell he even wants peace & rest in dominion but he had to choose an unforgiving role as alpha
The question that needs asking is obvious: How long until Godzilla sees humanity as a big enough threat that he needs to do more than 'selective pruning'?
Depends if humanity as a collective learns to respect his wishes, but if they don't he will be quick to humble them. I doubt he kill all of the human race, but he would put a sizeable dent on their numbers.
What's the current population of earth at the end of godzilla v kong? How many survived ghidoras global attack? I think humanity in the monsterverse has been sufficiently pruned. I want more monster fights. Not more "humans bad. Kill them to teach them a lesson." ...
i like to belive the reason Godzilla spares humanity is because he remembers when they worshipped him and how the war between them and the Titans triggered the ice age but seeing as how they’ve advanced as a species and even helped him sometimes he has faith that humanity has the ability to change for the better but if they did become big enough of a threat he will probably destroy a lot of their civilization but let them live as long as they don’t trie to rebel
Both Godzilla and Mothra brings a balance that is essential for the Earth. If it is a direct threat from space or right here on Earth. These two will be the top monarchy along with Kong if he is needed and despite of the war that both of his species and Godzilla's went through. There could be just enough room on the world above and below to rule.
Indeed, and I just hope that in the future finale of the MV, Godzilla & Kong will team up again (be officially allies), along with Monarch (includes Madison & Jia) and all of the Titans (Mothra, Rodan, Gamera, e.t.c.) against Destroyah, Monster X/Kaizer Ghidorah or a new extraterrestrial Titan, and both Protagonist Titans will not die, right.👍😉🦖🦍🌌
An awesome idea I had for a sequel was about the humans finding and protecting Mothra egg. Godzilla allows this because he can't protect Mothra's egg and keep the ecosystem in check at the same time. However, an ancient enemy of Mothra finds its chance to end its rival's cycle of reincarnation so the humans with Big G Man himself attempt to transport the egg to a safer location. I would also love to see Kaijus like Behemoth and Kraken coming to his aid as they technically owe him for saving their lives.
Protecting Mothra's egg and keeping the world in check seems like the easiest task Godzilla has had in a long time personally. What the heck would dare challenge Godzilla at this point when it literally made every Kaiju submit to it ?
The eyes in mothra s wings are actually Godzilla’s eye and when Godzilla became the nuclear pulse when he used the nuclear pulse you will actually see the wings of mothra
@@TaurusSaurus Mutos weren't trying to replace him, they were just doing what their species evolved to do. They used Godzillas as incubation chambers for their eggs. They were just using nukes as a modern replacement since they didn't know Godzilla was even around until he confronted them.
Ever since I became a Godzilla super fan when I was a little girl I never saw either Godzilla or Mothra as dictators, I always saw them as wonderful rulers who both always did know what was best for the planet and its residents. Even if they did instill a bit of fear during their reigns I see that as normal, because the Titans technically don't respect them if they don't also fear them at the same time. But no matter what Godzilla and Mothra will ALWAYS be the most tremendous and most outrageously wonderful King and Queen of the Monsterverse I've ever known and loved, still know and love today and will always know and love, and I don't know any other Titan that could possibly be any better. LONG LIVE THE KING AND QUEEN OF MY HEART!!!!!
Couldn't mothra have approached godzilla's kind for thier aid, first? Mothra having a deep connection to earth could be the real ruler/defender of earth and the godzilla the best weapon because they don't crave power, just balance.
If the oxygen destroyer bomb gets a proper follow up that would be a good excuse to show Godzilla and mothra's ruthlessness by killing a titan that was forced to vow to whatever monstrosity came from or was awakened by the oxygen destroyer bomb ( probably destroyah)
I think there's a fair amount of reach here when the premise of MonsterVerse Godzilla is an apex predator and nothing more. Apexes are top of the food chain for the purposes of resource management. He only had two possible threats to him (the Mutos and Ghidorah) while his species had a rivalry with fellow apex species, the Kongs. He has sapience but I don't think he can be bound to human concepts of rulership when that's not how the natural world works and isn't like how the titans work either. They may be more than mere animals but they still act in a naturalistic way. If anything, the titans are like herd, pack, or colony animals where they have a leader but, as lion prides show, a leader can be displaced so Goji makes sure he stays on top. The Kongs would be more of an exception since they likely have the familial set-ups you see in the great apes. As for Mothra, that kind of rips apart her canonical personality and mission. If anything, what you're describing fits Battra more.
@@joethegreat1008 You mean only you proved that you have a short attention span with that statement. Anyways, everything in this video is a reach. Especially when the Mutos parasitized Godzilla's species to near extinction.
I don't doubt that Godzilla and Mothra ruled with an iron fist. You either fall in line and submit or else you and your kind will get smited. The Kongs challenged that authority and refused to submit, which then started the war between the Kongs and the Gojiras.
Godzilla as a individual is not just a brutal tyrant, we saw him look at Mark in KOM with some sort of admiration. Godzilla does keep everyone in check - but if you think about it, he is like a ruler that takes care of his kingdom, for his people, at all cost.
Ok, I get it now. I never understood why I kept hearing that GZ & Mothra were connected, and why sometimes in the movies they fought but other times Mothra was helping GZ. Their connection should be clarified like this is in the movie so people will know. I’m sure others are still confused about it also.
This theory is very weak. Remember Godzilla and Mothra are suppose to keep the titans and humans in check. If one goes out of line then obviously Godzilla since he's the most active will go on the offensive. Mothra will fight but not to kill. She's mother nature avatar after all
Nature kills all the time. Mothra won't kill unless she has to but she has in the past. Nature isn't soft. If it were, prey wouldn't be dying in ways that make the worst of humanity look like saints in comparison. But yes, this theory is pretty weak.
Mothra was not allowed to kill bc toho said so, but the lore supports Mothra applying lethal force to oppositions of Godzilla. She may be mother nature in the flesh, but mother nature is often cut-throat and bloody when necessary.
Exactly, this theory is actually out of Character for both Titans 1. Godzilla actually doesn’t enjoy being king as shown in dominion, he just wants peace & balance 2. Mothra does actually harm evil humans but never kills them
It’s a bit of both I think, They are righteous dictators; But I think it’s for all the right reasons. I think the two of them are very much misunderstood, And that’s why they need another chance.
What dark secret ? They weren't dictators, your nuts. Mothra would show Godzilla where he was needed and he would go.She was 911 and was the first responder.
For those wondering... Godzilla (Legendary) doesn't mind humans...let alone care for them... he sees us like some of us see bugs... he isn't gonna go out of his way to slaughter us unless we start fucking with the Planets natural balance... Ghidorah was the main threat to that balance and once humanity tried to play "Techno-God" and using his " conscience" to bring in MechaGodzilla. Godzilla started attacking the facilities basically saying "Knock that shit off! You have no idea what your dealing with" . He is the perfect personified "Anti-Hero" (Which I love!) He don't give 2 shits about us. But what he's doing benefits us aslong as we're not the ones screwing it up
True, but here is something I don't understand, the other Titans outnumber them so why don't they rebel against Godzilla and Mothra. I mean why do they let Godzilla and Mothra order them around, they should try to overthrow them, heck Starscream has tried to do that with Megatron in Transformers.
@@Aluhcav yes you are right about that because it does comeback to bite him even worse, but The Titans do outnumber Godzilla and Mothra, 100 to 2 so I don't see why they don't rebel against them since they outnumber them.
I see them as moreso like Mufasa/Simba and Serabi/Nala. They're not necessarily dictators, but don't push their buttons. They'll do what needs to be done. Like Mufasa exiling the Hyenas and Simba even exiling Kovu when he thought he had betrayed him, they'll do what they think is right, and it's the age old saying for them: Move...or get run over.
1:28 no Maybe im wrong but she is one of the or the only monster who have some kinda kindness to the humans and other animals . Godzilla is the one who cares about the earth and its atmosphere
My niece's and nephew and mother are all new fans of Godzilla thanks to the Monsterverse. Its interesting to see how they view the Mothra/Godzilla dynamic. They basically view them as being bf and gf.
Even though they may be peaceful tyrants, we humans wouldn’t be any better. Remember Apex and Mechagodzilla? They tried to reclaim Earth with Mechagodzilla, and look at where that got them.
Oh c'mon, they're protectors, and will always be!!! Don't ruin the Monsterverse Godzilla and Mothra's reputation, or I'll make a spectacle out of you, Dangerville.
this is just a theory it's not confirmed, also what i know toho told legendary to make mothra doesn't kills, and to know we never saw her kill anyone, and for godzilla, he might do that because all he cares about is to rule the earth and keep it safe, but yeah as i just said keep the earth safe which means i don't think he would wipe all those species just to be a king, also zo zla halawa might be there and i am sure he could destroy both mothra and godzilla solo, if this thing even happened but nah it didn't
I really don’t like the cringy mothzilla thing about Godzilla and Mothra’s symbiotic relationship that’s been memed on and romanticized by some fans, it’s imo disgusting and just bizzare, even by Godzilla/Kaiju eiga standards.
I mean if we’re being real those are just memes and shippers (every fan base has them) I doubt their relationship is at all romantic in anyway. It just seems to me like a mutually beneficial partnership plus they have fought together before.
If I may say something is, I don’t think that In the animal kingdom, most "rulers" only rule by respect. Fear is a big part in that so I’m not that surprised.
Not true, actually. Most leaders are actually older and wiser mothers or fathers who naturally fall into the position of a leader and protector as it is normal for children to follow their parents. Goji and Mothra are just bullies.
@@maximillian1109 they aren't they hold order. You we both saw what happened when Godzilla was dethroned. They must rule even if by fear. You're judging him by human standards. "Survival of the fittest
Mothra is kind of needed to even have the monster world alive since she like, alot of people dont know this but a power she has is leaving earth around and it makes sense how shes stays alive because she lives like a plant that gets more into physics and godzilla keeps the monsters in check so thats why they kinda stick together to restore balance and maybe even save the universe of monsters.
My oldest niece has been convinced that Godzilla and Mothra are King and Queen and this video kind of backs that up in a way. Also she wouldn’t shut up about what their kids might look like, I simply told her it was most likely nightmare fuel!
Godzilla and Mothra they were basically misunderstood but the reason why people are always calling them dictators is because they're small minded individuals who have no education about anyting plus Godzilla reminds me too much of me
Plot twist: Godzilla and mothra are the aliens/enemy’s and Ghidorah was the OG alpha hints why the monsters don’t question ghidorah and Ghidorah wants humans (the polluters) dead because of what they’re doing to his real home.
Godzilla sees humans as insignificant ants that destroy everything in their path but also help the planet in many ways and in the end are also part of the ecosystem and also used to worship him so he has good memories with them despite having provoked the ice age
I think that mothra is a moth of peace with the energy of fire and Godzilla a king of peace with pure energy they banish titans who cause a threat and have no choice but to kill them if it’s not enough
I think they ae more like harsh but fair parents, and also like pack/pride/herd leaders. they are hard on the ones that get out of control/disobedient, but are ultimately fair about it, whether seen as cruelty or kindness
As much as I like this theory I don't think mothra would go that far to ensure violence for upholding supremacy. Sure she impaled Rodan with her stinger but it wasn't outright fatal to him given how she's mainly pacifistic. Although it would probably take like a lot to piss her off, to say if King Ghidorah did managed to completely murder Godzilla right in front of her (if Rodan hadn't interfered from the get go) she'd definitely would've let loose her wrath upon him presumably by encasing his heads in her silk and implanting her stinger right into his chest.
as explained in Godzilla vs Kong, Godzilla first intent is to have the titan to submit, if the titan refuses to submit, then godzilla is left no choice but to end it. Recall final battle verses Kong, Godzilla had him down, had his foot on his chest, Kong swipes it away, Godzilla was clearly frustrated quenching both his fist and looking angrily straight up and then re-enforce his foot unto Kongs chest this time a crushing stomp, then leans into him and roars, course Kong roars back, remember Godzilla final gesture to Kong before he left Kong for Dead. If you are a titan from here, I think Godzilla and Mothra only desires submission, not from here, those two are saying, you gotta go!!....Just Kong and G-man are extremely alpha nature for their species, reason why isn't rocket science (last of their kind)...Kong or Godzilla never submit to one another, although final battle with mechagodzilla I can see no signs of future battle between the two ( counter productive to both G-man and Kong)...they know they need one another..if mothra is in the next Godzilla vs Kong 2 movie she won't allow the two to face off. Godzilla, Mothra and Kong have too much on their plates
remember that Mothra has these tiny people who would sing in order for her to hatch from her egg, like in the original Godzilla vs. Mothra. love that movie!! I love all Godzilla movies except the one from the 90's.
I feel mothra and Godzilla are justified. Even form the older movie you only see them fight if. 1) they were attacked personally 2) Some other creature or spices throws peace out the window. I believe it’s always the humans fault anyway.
I mean you really can't blame them. They seem to be as kind as they could. But look at what's happened, gadorah, mutos, muto prime , and Mecha Godzilla kind of has to rule over. Gadorah wants mass destruction, Kong isn't fit to be king, and Godzilla sleeps when all the titans are kept in check I still view him as the supreme king
Well, they didn't appear very well connected in the old Godzilla vs Mothra movie. Godzilla kept going after her egg, seemingly dead set on a Mothra egg omelet. Mothra died protecting it and the two larvae that hatched from it kicked Godzilla's butt.
Thought it may be something else (jk that thing isn't a secret at all). I don't see them as tyrants if they react to threats and don't get anything out of it. Because a lot of titans are violent some order has to be established so their rule has to be accepted. Sadly we don't know much about the relations between titans but it can't be all violent and based on fear especially if Godzilla is expected to lead an actual army. It would be better if that loyalty was built on something. Mothra of course is more gentle, kind of fits the stereotype of a fairy tale queen that keeps more aggressive king in check. But even when he's on his own I don't think he makes others live in fear. Unless you're plotting to destroy the world he's happy to let you live in peace, maybe he'll check on you from time to time like a grumpy but not entirely unfriendly neighbor.
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How about the war with the kong species where was mothra during this time was she willing to fight a mostly peaceful species of kongs to remain godzillas most loyal ally?
The fact that Mothra is viewed by Godzilla as sort of a guiding spirit makes me imagine him quoting Ludwig the accursed upon her death: "You were at my side all along, my true mentor. My guiding moonlight." then Ludwig the holy blade starts playing when he goes thermonuclear
Even though Godzilla and Mothra are seen to be benevolent Titans, even they aren’t above using brutal force to ensure that the balance stays in one peace. Godzilla himself could potentially be even more destructive than any of the hostile Titans he’s had to contend with.
yup. he always win for a reason. they way he kills titans is like a gruesome execution.
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DID THYE DESTROY KONG FAMILY
@@rcguitarcovers8614 yeah he usually wins with help, other than that he gets his ass whooped up and down
@@toy5965 aye, bro got plot armor so ether way he is still going to win.
@@truthoftheuniverse4179 You do realize that godzilla is the only species that survive from the war against Kong's species right? While Kong's Species still have decent amount of population Godzilla is the only one that survives.
And on top of that Kong's species used to ripped the back of Godzilla's species to turned them into a weapon.
Godzilla is the victim here in my opinion.
For too long I've just thought of Godzilla and Mothra as guardians of the planet, never would I have guessed that they ruled as noble tyrants in order to keep the world stable. Well, you learn new stuff every day and I'm looking forward to all that's coming next in the monster verse.
Keep in mind, this is a theory, not fact/lore given from the directors or novels
@Skelsius that's because a good bit of the Fandom are kids that can't think for themselves in regards to theories. You give them a random theory and make it sound detailed and they'll believe it
@Skelsius yeah
@@Kaiju-bm4ts the new kid goji fans are a real problem
@@DireNemesis unfortunately yes 😔. While I am glad newer younger fans are here they are also a pain to deal with when it comes to their toxicity or their lack of knowledge or their inability to think for themselves.
Idk,I feel like you're misunderstanding them.
Yes,Godzilla is the guardian that rules with an iron fist,and has a relatively big ego,but wiping out an entire Titans' species? That goes against everything Titanus Gojira fight for,not even for Kongs,a species that was becoming very dangerous for the Hollow Earth ecosystem,that was a solution,they killed a few of them and exiled the remaining to Skull Island,that's more than enough of an example for everyone else.
And,man,you did Mothra quite dirty,of course she cares about the individuals,she had people that venerated her as a benevolent and protective deity,so,being a tyrant that goes as far as wiping out a whole species to get to the perfect balance and control,is totally out of her range too.
If it was the way you portrayed them,humanity was already far gone since the first glimpse of pollution intoxicating the planet,and I get it,you wanted to believe they had a dark side,but,honestly,you're quite off-road this time
Yes
Gianmar, I agree with you.
💯 Plus this man even said Godzilla enjoys when titans bow to him when in reality ,there is no implication that shows Godzilla being in joy when titans submit to him
@@tonyg7718 no,they are onto something there,he felt powerful because he defeated King Ghidorah,at that point,he was the undisputed Alpha,and that's when his ego began to show.
Every Titan must bow to him,or otherwise,he will inflict them a severe lesson,like he did with Scylla and Amuluk,the killing part is reserved only for the ones that are an actual threat to the whole planet's status quo,that's also why he didn't straight up kill Kong,he wasn't a threat for the planet,only for his status of Alpha Titan. Godzilla went heavy on him because he felt disrespected,his ego didn't like Kong's continuous challenges,and his refusal to submit,but,ultimately,respected Kong's bravery even in front of death,and let him die in peace (if he even knew he caused his death,which was stopped by the HEAV explosion of course)
@@gianmarcozampella5138 Yes he may have an ego, but he clearly doesn’t even enjoy being king. Hell he even wants peace & rest in dominion but he had to choose an unforgiving role as alpha
The question that needs asking is obvious:
How long until Godzilla sees humanity as a big enough threat that he needs to do more than 'selective pruning'?
Depends if humanity as a collective learns to respect his wishes, but if they don't he will be quick to humble them. I doubt he kill all of the human race, but he would put a sizeable dent on their numbers.
@@RubyCarrots3232 Humanity seems to have advanced enough where it can kill godzilla (In the MV timeline) as shown with the oxygen destroyer
What's the current population of earth at the end of godzilla v kong? How many survived ghidoras global attack? I think humanity in the monsterverse has been sufficiently pruned.
I want more monster fights. Not more "humans bad. Kill them to teach them a lesson." ...
yeah if he would, humans in the mv is pretty advanced so they could defend themselves.
i like to belive the reason Godzilla spares humanity is because he remembers when they worshipped him and how the war between them and the Titans triggered the ice age but seeing as how they’ve advanced as a species and even helped him sometimes he has faith that humanity has the ability to change for the better but if they did become big enough of a threat he will probably destroy a lot of their civilization but let them live as long as they don’t trie to rebel
Godzilla and mothra's symbiotic relationship is quite fascinating
I never knew that????
Both Godzilla and Mothra brings a balance that is essential for the Earth. If it is a direct threat from space or right here on Earth. These two will be the top monarchy along with Kong if he is needed and despite of the war that both of his species and Godzilla's went through. There could be just enough room on the world above and below to rule.
yeah
Indeed, and I just hope that in the future finale of the MV, Godzilla & Kong will team up again (be officially allies), along with Monarch (includes Madison & Jia) and all of the Titans (Mothra, Rodan, Gamera, e.t.c.) against Destroyah, Monster X/Kaizer Ghidorah or a new extraterrestrial Titan, and both Protagonist Titans will not die, right.👍😉🦖🦍🌌
An awesome idea I had for a sequel was about the humans finding and protecting Mothra egg. Godzilla allows this because he can't protect Mothra's egg and keep the ecosystem in check at the same time.
However, an ancient enemy of Mothra finds its chance to end its rival's cycle of reincarnation so the humans with Big G Man himself attempt to transport the egg to a safer location.
I would also love to see Kaijus like Behemoth and Kraken coming to his aid as they technically owe him for saving their lives.
Protecting Mothra's egg and keeping the world in check seems like the easiest task Godzilla has had in a long time personally. What the heck would dare challenge Godzilla at this point when it literally made every Kaiju submit to it ?
The eyes in mothra s wings are actually Godzilla’s eye and when Godzilla became the nuclear pulse when he used the nuclear pulse you will actually see the wings of mothra
Godzillas actually pretty nice considering that he’s put up with us humans for so long and sometimes protects humans and other kaju
We build him nice temples so he doesn't kill us all.
@@Bhoddisatva well considering we awakened the m.u.t.os king kgidoroa tried to replace him and much more
@@TaurusSaurus Mutos weren't trying to replace him, they were just doing what their species evolved to do. They used Godzillas as incubation chambers for their eggs. They were just using nukes as a modern replacement since they didn't know Godzilla was even around until he confronted them.
@@ManSpider92 oh have you not watched Godzilla vs Kong yet
@@TaurusSaurus I have seen it but it has nothing to do with Mutos
Ever since I became a Godzilla super fan when I was a little girl I never saw either Godzilla or Mothra as dictators, I always saw them as wonderful rulers who both always did know what was best for the planet and its residents. Even if they did instill a bit of fear during their reigns I see that as normal, because the Titans technically don't respect them if they don't also fear them at the same time. But no matter what Godzilla and Mothra will ALWAYS be the most tremendous and most outrageously wonderful King and Queen of the Monsterverse I've ever known and loved, still know and love today and will always know and love, and I don't know any other Titan that could possibly be any better. LONG LIVE THE KING AND QUEEN OF MY HEART!!!!!
Couldn't mothra have approached godzilla's kind for thier aid, first? Mothra having a deep connection to earth could be the real ruler/defender of earth and the godzilla the best weapon because they don't crave power, just balance.
If the oxygen destroyer bomb gets a proper follow up that would be a good excuse to show Godzilla and mothra's ruthlessness by killing a titan that was forced to vow to whatever monstrosity came from or was awakened by the oxygen destroyer bomb ( probably destroyah)
I think there's a fair amount of reach here when the premise of MonsterVerse Godzilla is an apex predator and nothing more. Apexes are top of the food chain for the purposes of resource management. He only had two possible threats to him (the Mutos and Ghidorah) while his species had a rivalry with fellow apex species, the Kongs. He has sapience but I don't think he can be bound to human concepts of rulership when that's not how the natural world works and isn't like how the titans work either. They may be more than mere animals but they still act in a naturalistic way. If anything, the titans are like herd, pack, or colony animals where they have a leader but, as lion prides show, a leader can be displaced so Goji makes sure he stays on top. The Kongs would be more of an exception since they likely have the familial set-ups you see in the great apes.
As for Mothra, that kind of rips apart her canonical personality and mission. If anything, what you're describing fits Battra more.
Nobody that has a life would read this plus its not reach if anything trying to disprove it is reaching
@@joethegreat1008 He asked for opinions and I gave mine. Try again.
but it's just a theory
but who knows it could be true
@@joethegreat1008 You mean only you proved that you have a short attention span with that statement. Anyways, everything in this video is a reach. Especially when the Mutos parasitized Godzilla's species to near extinction.
Oh god, that title can be taken horribly outta context lol
That's why I clicked on this vid
Biased
I don't doubt that Godzilla and Mothra ruled with an iron fist. You either fall in line and submit or else you and your kind will get smited. The Kongs challenged that authority and refused to submit, which then started the war between the Kongs and the Gojiras.
We don't know how the kaiju war actually started yet. Remember this video is a theory
Godzilla as a individual is not just a brutal tyrant, we saw him look at Mark in KOM with some sort of admiration. Godzilla does keep everyone in check - but if you think about it, he is like a ruler that takes care of his kingdom, for his people, at all cost.
Most people tend to ignore the big picture, Because when you look at dominion, we see him actually miss the ancient humans who lived with him
When you title a video: "Godzilla's horrible secret with Mothra" people's mind will make very wierd conclusions about their "symbiotic telationship".
How dirty our generation's mind is!
Very interesting i never thought about it. They do blanace each other.Excellent video! Great job on the video and keep up the awesome work!
Don't feel bad, the whole Godzilla franchise almost always kill mothra, no matter what
Edit: Batra exists, so she is not alone
I would watch the song scene from the original GodzillaVsMechagodzilla (1974)
Then *not* have Battra
This thumbnail is sick! Thanks for putting the contact info in the dropdown
Ok, I get it now. I never understood why I kept hearing that GZ & Mothra were connected, and why sometimes in the movies they fought but other times Mothra was helping GZ. Their connection should be clarified like this is in the movie so people will know. I’m sure others are still confused about it also.
This isn't a fact video or cannon you know that right, this is all theory stuff and most of it is reaching really far. Don't take it too seriously.
“Horrible secret”…??
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Keep up these interesting videos on the monsterverse there always very entertaining.
This theory is very weak. Remember Godzilla and Mothra are suppose to keep the titans and humans in check. If one goes out of line then obviously Godzilla since he's the most active will go on the offensive. Mothra will fight but not to kill. She's mother nature avatar after all
Nature kills all the time. Mothra won't kill unless she has to but she has in the past. Nature isn't soft. If it were, prey wouldn't be dying in ways that make the worst of humanity look like saints in comparison.
But yes, this theory is pretty weak.
@@25Erix thank you miss for your amazing comment👍👍
Mothra was not allowed to kill bc toho said so, but the lore supports Mothra applying lethal force to oppositions of Godzilla. She may be mother nature in the flesh, but mother nature is often cut-throat and bloody when necessary.
@@micahduffus5690 yep. Biggest mistake militant vegans make is saying Nature is soft. She's not. She's a cruel bitch at times.
Exactly, this theory is actually out of Character for both Titans
1. Godzilla actually doesn’t enjoy being king as shown in dominion, he just wants peace & balance
2. Mothra does actually harm evil humans but never kills them
It’s a bit of both I think, They are righteous dictators; But I think it’s for all the right reasons. I think the two of them are very much misunderstood, And that’s why they need another chance.
I always respect Godzilla and mothra those two titans are special no matter what they have been through
Hey now! It’s symbiotic 😂
What dark secret ? They weren't dictators, your nuts. Mothra would show Godzilla where he was needed and he would go.She was 911 and was the first responder.
0:24 I love that picture!!!
For those wondering... Godzilla (Legendary) doesn't mind humans...let alone care for them... he sees us like some of us see bugs... he isn't gonna go out of his way to slaughter us unless we start fucking with the Planets natural balance... Ghidorah was the main threat to that balance and once humanity tried to play "Techno-God" and using his " conscience" to bring in MechaGodzilla.
Godzilla started attacking the facilities basically saying
"Knock that shit off! You have no idea what your dealing with" .
He is the perfect personified "Anti-Hero" (Which I love!) He don't give 2 shits about us. But what he's doing benefits us aslong as we're not the ones screwing it up
He doesn’t even see us as insects
Godzillas horrible secret with mothra: *the internet*
Life, Finds a way...
Godzilla x mothra r34 💀💀💀💀
@@neoxpro12 Hot
"Not just out of respect, but fear" That and being a power couple.
True, but here is something I don't understand, the other Titans outnumber them so why don't they rebel against Godzilla and Mothra. I mean why do they let Godzilla and Mothra order them around, they should try to overthrow them, heck Starscream has tried to do that with Megatron in Transformers.
@@stainshield Right, and every time Starscream does it, it comes back to bite him even worse.
@@Aluhcav yes you are right about that because it does comeback to bite him even worse, but The Titans do outnumber Godzilla and Mothra, 100 to 2 so I don't see why they don't rebel against them since they outnumber them.
@stainshield Easy, they can take them on their own. They're not the King and Queen of Monsters for nothing
I see them as moreso like Mufasa/Simba and Serabi/Nala. They're not necessarily dictators, but don't push their buttons. They'll do what needs to be done.
Like Mufasa exiling the Hyenas and Simba even exiling Kovu when he thought he had betrayed him, they'll do what they think is right, and it's the age old saying for them:
Move...or get run over.
1:28 no
Maybe im wrong but she is one of the or the only monster who have some kinda kindness to the humans and other animals . Godzilla is the one who cares about the earth and its atmosphere
"Godzilla and Mothra's HORRIBLE secret."
Godzilla=King of the Monsters
Mothra= Queen of the Monsters
You do the math
G man smashes thorax
godzilla ruling with fear is logical but not mothra
My niece's and nephew and mother are all new fans of Godzilla thanks to the Monsterverse. Its interesting to see how they view the Mothra/Godzilla dynamic. They basically view them as being bf and gf.
Even though they may be peaceful tyrants, we humans wouldn’t be any better. Remember Apex and Mechagodzilla? They tried to reclaim Earth with Mechagodzilla, and look at where that got them.
More Mothra videos! Please and thank you.
Oh c'mon, they're protectors, and will always be!!! Don't ruin the Monsterverse Godzilla and Mothra's reputation, or I'll make a spectacle out of you, Dangerville.
I can't wait for the lore of them introducing battra and mothra Leo
You sir... are a TRUE TITAN 👍 best video yet!💚
"Godzilla's horrible secret with mothra"
my dumbass brain: Godzilla clapped Mothra's cheeks
SAME
Same
Id love to see more on zilla. I always liked the design even though it's not "godzilla"
Godzilla and Mothra are a terrifying pair
True, but why don't the other Titans try to overthrow them because they outnumber them.
this is just a theory it's not confirmed, also what i know toho told legendary to make mothra doesn't kills, and to know we never saw her kill anyone, and for godzilla, he might do that because all he cares about is to rule the earth and keep it safe, but yeah as i just said keep the earth safe which means i don't think he would wipe all those species just to be a king, also zo zla halawa might be there and i am sure he could destroy both mothra and godzilla solo, if this thing even happened but nah it didn't
I really don’t like the cringy mothzilla thing about Godzilla and Mothra’s symbiotic relationship that’s been memed on and romanticized by some fans, it’s imo disgusting and just bizzare, even by Godzilla/Kaiju eiga standards.
Even on this Channel
It's a stupid idea. Let's leave them at being friends or partners but Not lovers
Monster Island Buddies is the best Godzilla channel
Me i love it
I mean if we’re being real those are just memes and shippers (every fan base has them) I doubt their relationship is at all romantic in anyway. It just seems to me like a mutually beneficial partnership plus they have fought together before.
I love me some Mothra. I wanna see Mothra meet Kong and the reaction.
Such a beautiful relationship. Absolutely amazing. Makes me wanna go play with my Godzilla action figures. 🎬
Nice
I saw dark secret and immediately thought you know what
If I may say something is, I don’t think that In the animal kingdom, most "rulers" only rule by respect. Fear is a big part in that so I’m not that surprised.
Not true, actually. Most leaders are actually older and wiser mothers or fathers who naturally fall into the position of a leader and protector as it is normal for children to follow their parents.
Goji and Mothra are just bullies.
@@maximillian1109 they aren't they hold order. You we both saw what happened when Godzilla was dethroned. They must rule even if by fear. You're judging him by human standards. "Survival of the fittest
@@maximillian1109 most of natures "rulers" do rule by fear and or power
What if every single titan rebelled against Godzilla and all the titans fought Godzilla at once all of them?
Can (Legendary) Godzilla Beat (Final Wars) Godzilla?
Hahaha NOPE!!!
Final Wars literally have the fire power and a master at fighting hand to hand in combat. Legendary Battle it will be
@@hawkman6204 True
Yes, he can defnetly beat the 2004 Godzilla with moderate dificulty.
Final Wars Godzilla is cool and strong, but overrated asf.
How please explain
When me and my brother saw the title we instantly thought he was going to say, that Godzilla is hitting it from the back with mothra 🤣🤣
Mothra is kind of needed to even have the monster world alive since she like, alot of people dont know this but a power she has is leaving earth around and it makes sense how shes stays alive because she lives like a plant that gets more into physics and godzilla keeps the monsters in check so thats why they kinda stick together to restore balance and maybe even save the universe of monsters.
Sometimes good cannot afford to be soft but I personally see them as misunderstood.
Plus, it's thanks to the Monsterverse that I'm a Mothzilla fan.
My oldest niece has been convinced that Godzilla and Mothra are King and Queen and this video kind of backs that up in a way. Also she wouldn’t shut up about what their kids might look like, I simply told her it was most likely nightmare fuel!
I don't think Godzilla wants to rule or is a ruler necessarily. It's more like if anybody IS going to rule, it's going to be him.
So pretty much you have to find Mothra during her cocoon stage and destroy it, to even have a chance to defeat Godzilla.
Godzilla and Mothra they were basically misunderstood but the reason why people are always calling them dictators is because they're small minded individuals who have no education about anyting plus Godzilla reminds me too much of me
Plot twist: Godzilla and mothra are the aliens/enemy’s and Ghidorah was the OG alpha hints why the monsters don’t question ghidorah and Ghidorah wants humans (the polluters) dead because of what they’re doing to his real home.
So...they're not saint...
What do you think legendary Godzilla thinks of humans? Also please do how Zilla would sound and look like in real life and in monsterverse.
Godzilla sees humans as insignificant ants that destroy everything in their path but also help the planet in many ways and in the end are also part of the ecosystem and also used to worship him so he has good memories with them despite having provoked the ice age
@@diorraices8077 He doesn’t view as ants actually, he calls us the small ones
@@tonyg7718 what is an ant like to godzilla
@@Denishabani I just said he doesn’t view us as ants
@@tonyg7718 no I mean a real ant how would a real ant look like to godzilla
Will you do Toho Theory's?
Yes please. We need more Toho videos
@@Godzilla-tu2cd Probably won't happen sadly
@@Assassin199410 hey man never say never
I think that mothra is a moth of peace with the energy of fire and Godzilla a king of peace with pure energy they banish titans who cause a threat and have no choice but to kill them if it’s not enough
I think they ae more like harsh but fair parents, and also like pack/pride/herd leaders. they are hard on the ones that get out of control/disobedient, but are ultimately fair about it, whether seen as cruelty or kindness
Godzilla and Mothra need each other to achieve peace and balance to the world. They rely on each other too.
You did godzilla and mothra dirty
As much as I like this theory I don't think mothra would go that far to ensure violence for upholding supremacy. Sure she impaled Rodan with her stinger but it wasn't outright fatal to him given how she's mainly pacifistic. Although it would probably take like a lot to piss her off, to say if King Ghidorah did managed to completely murder Godzilla right in front of her (if Rodan hadn't interfered from the get go) she'd definitely would've let loose her wrath upon him presumably by encasing his heads in her silk and implanting her stinger right into his chest.
They are perfect together as king and queen and in battle but “perfect” together away from battle.
both godzilla and mothra were misunderstood
Imagine if Godzilla starts becoming more evil and Mothra had to stop him alongside with Kong
Ayo, godzilla never be a evil, cuz he is the king of the monster, mothra will never alongside of kong,
@@ilikeyouresouls4182 I know, I'm just saying
@@ilikeyouresouls4182 "For now."
@@ilikeyouresouls4182 godzilla can be evil + mothra can be with kong too if its needed to restore balance
That would actually be cool
POV: the video title is called Godzilla Horrible Secret with Mothra
You: 💀
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@noob noob
as explained in Godzilla vs Kong, Godzilla first intent is to have the titan to submit, if the titan refuses to submit, then godzilla is left no choice but to end it. Recall final battle verses Kong, Godzilla had him down, had his foot on his chest, Kong swipes it away, Godzilla was clearly frustrated quenching both his fist and looking angrily straight up and then re-enforce his foot unto Kongs chest this time a crushing stomp, then leans into him and roars, course Kong roars back, remember Godzilla final gesture to Kong before he left Kong for Dead. If you are a titan from here, I think Godzilla and Mothra only desires submission, not from here, those two are saying, you gotta go!!....Just Kong and G-man are extremely alpha nature for their species, reason why isn't rocket science (last of their kind)...Kong or Godzilla never submit to one another, although final battle with mechagodzilla I can see no signs of future battle between the two ( counter productive to both G-man and Kong)...they know they need one another..if mothra is in the next Godzilla vs Kong 2 movie she won't allow the two to face off. Godzilla, Mothra and Kong have too much on their plates
remember that Mothra has these tiny people who would sing in order for
her to hatch from her egg, like in the original Godzilla vs. Mothra. love that
movie!! I love all Godzilla movies except the one from the 90's.
They mated and created Godzilra.
I feel mothra and Godzilla are justified. Even form the older movie you only see them fight if.
1) they were attacked personally
2) Some other creature or spices throws peace out the window.
I believe it’s always the humans fault anyway.
4:53
this is actually makes Rodan to the main hero of KOTM
I mean you really can't blame them. They seem to be as kind as they could. But look at what's happened, gadorah, mutos, muto prime , and Mecha Godzilla kind of has to rule over. Gadorah wants mass destruction, Kong isn't fit to be king, and Godzilla sleeps when all the titans are kept in check I still view him as the supreme king
I love ur background music and story telling
Well, they didn't appear very well connected in the old Godzilla vs Mothra movie. Godzilla kept going after her egg, seemingly dead set on a Mothra egg omelet. Mothra died protecting it and the two larvae that hatched from it kicked Godzilla's butt.
I think the Kongs are the only Titan species who did not submit to Godzilla or Mothra Guess they have that ancient war in the Hollow Earth
Godzilla and mothra are just misunderstood
Good theory but don't forget Mothra and Godzilla have been at odds with one another in the past .
For the last time they are husband and wife 3:04
Gojira and Mosura are righteous rulers who prove benevolent if you show them respect and know your place.
So Mothra is basically the living embodiment of Earth? Another version of the Gaea story.
Whoa, that's different about their relationship so you're saying Mothra and Godzilla are basically peacekeeping dictators. Man, that's something.
Dude it's just a theory.....a bad one at that
@@Kaiju-bm4ts That maybe true, but it's interesting to listen about it from other's point of view even if it's a theory.
The horrible secret is that on 1 night, Godzilla slept with Kevin, not Mothra
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You know why godzilla always makes everyone laugh? Nobody can resist his cheer size
Is anyone going to talk about the title?
Thought it may be something else (jk that thing isn't a secret at all). I don't see them as tyrants if they react to threats and don't get anything out of it. Because a lot of titans are violent some order has to be established so their rule has to be accepted. Sadly we don't know much about the relations between titans but it can't be all violent and based on fear especially if Godzilla is expected to lead an actual army. It would be better if that loyalty was built on something. Mothra of course is more gentle, kind of fits the stereotype of a fairy tale queen that keeps more aggressive king in check. But even when he's on his own I don't think he makes others live in fear. Unless you're plotting to destroy the world he's happy to let you live in peace, maybe he'll check on you from time to time like a grumpy but not entirely unfriendly neighbor.
This secret is more crazy than the secrets I am keeping from my parents
Godzilla had mothra in the buck!!
I don’t know about this theory because if you think about it the Kongs nearly wiped out the Gojirs and Morthars in the great battle
Imagine godzilla being a machiavelli with a good virtue
me: *sees title*
still me: oh boy
Us MonsterVerse Fans are still waiting for a epic Mothra sole MonsterVerse movie to be made.