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Yeah I like how this one turned out. Wet weather was a challenge had to color correct the videos they were so dark at times from thick clouds. But, at least it was not 99 and humid, or 32 and windy as in recent shoots 😂
At 10:50 you incorrectly state that the Taycan has no regenerative braking. That is 100% false. It does default to only coast on throttle release and even in its regen mode only exhibits light regen like an automatic transmission. However, the Taycan actually offers the largest amount of regen by simply using the brake pedal. It can cause 0.4g of braking force up to 260kW, over twice what a Tesla will perform on throttle release. Then Porsche will blend in friction brakes as needed quite seamlessly. You can visually see the regen by looking at the top of the speedometer for the green bar. Or just feel the breaks after a drive. They will not be that hot unless you are driving very aggressively.
Really appreciate you watching and the comment. My goal with that part was to help people understand that this car coasts more vs other EVs I’ve reviewed that regen off the electric motors. It does change the driving dynamic in a big way. Like you said makes it more like an ICE vehicle. Its not bad in anyway, in fact, the Taycan is quite good to drive but you will be using that brake pedal a whole lot more than say a Tesla Plaid.
@@Driven-Productions completely agree with that statement, you will be using the brake pedal a lot more than a Tesla or other EVs where you can set a high amount of off-throttle regen. Btw this is hardly noticeable in freeway driving as I use Porsche InnoDrive which is Adaptive Cruz Control with lane centering that works even above 100mph (so I read 😎)
Porsche set the brakes up so when you push on the pedal slightly, it uses regeneration. Only when you push harder do the friction brakes come into play. I love this spec with these wheels, but if I was making my own, I'd get a red or grey interior with the Mission E Wheels and with a dark blue paint.
I believe it's 80% of the braking power comes from regenerative braking. You can stomp on that brake pedal pretty hard before it blends in the friction brakes. The 800V system in this vehicle allows it to regenerate a LOT of energy. I do believe regen can be disabled completely for track racing where battery temperature is more important than brake wear.
Fantastic daily driver and on another level indeed, incidentally I hear Tesla are making their superchargers available to all manufacturers- excellent review Adam
Great video. You're wrong about regenerative braking though. The Taycan does regenerative braking. It's just so well executed that you can't Tell the difference from conventional braking.
@@MaxMustermann-vu8ir I thought I had regen on, but your saying the electric motor does have this feature to recapture like the Tesla can? Sure I read the brakes regenerate as I mentioned, but thats upon pedal activation, not just lifting off the accelerator. In any case, it was not slowing down on lift off, I mean barley. Felt more like an ICE car coasting. Maybe I didn’t play enough with it.
Model S and Model X are boring to drive. Great acceleration (although they overheat quickly) but on country roads they feel heavy and uninspiring. Model 3 is better and IMHO is the best Tesla money can buy today. Performance version is IMHO best car in its price range money can buy. But Taycan is different beast. It puts smile on your face, it excites, it makes you feel like little boy with amazing toy, despite its weight it feels nimble, probably thanks to dynamic steering and 4 wheel steering. When I drove it first time I giggled for 30 minutes, I never had anywhere close the same fun in Tesla. Porsche is pricey but you certainly get what you paid for.
Yeah Model 3 Performance and Model Y Performance are fantastic values. They are some of the cars out there. Also Teslas don't depreciate massively like nearly all other BEVs. The 5-year resale value is around 55% on all Teslas. The Taycan is pretty bad though at 39% resale value after 5 years. Most other BEVs are in the 35% to 40% range. Most other regular cars are around 50%. The 911 is one of the highest at around 85%.
@@nafnaf0 I can't speak for other markets but in the UK 20 reg (2020 model) Tesla Model 3 lost ~50% value whereas 20reg (2020 model) Taycan 4S lost around 25% during the same period. This means driving Model 3 and Taycan 4S between 2020 to 2023 would cost you the same, around £20k loss in resale value. Crazy! Petrol powered Porsche always kept their value well and, although early to make judgements, first data suggests Taycan will be similar.
I dont see a problem in the range of taycan,because here in Europe,we dont usually go above 100-150 miles around,so between cities or in town,this is much better than a tesla from a lot points of view!Anyway,good review!✌️
I hear you on the range, just not great for road trips. I had a 300 mile trip yesterday, and opted for a gas bike vs the Tesla because didn’t want to add another 45 min charging stop.
@@williamcopeland2617 it was turned on for the POV drive, but still requires the use of the brake pedal, which is different than some of the competitors. Not bad, just different. Overall, love the car 🤙
Wish you would have done launch control, its insane. That basic launch you did didn’t use anywhere near the full power. It would have shot like a rocket even in the wet. Would have loved to see your reactions. Otherwise as a Taycan Turbo owner, it was a great video.
Sorry but you have missinformation about breaking. Breaking uses the electric motors up to 0.5G and has up to 290KW electric generation. It's just not one paddle driving. Also you haven't used launch control so you haven't had full acceleration, since you have to step on both bedals for a few seconds until launch control is displayed in the main display.
Here I thought that Teslas were good looking cars, I have a Model 3 Performance and my wife has a Model Y Performance. This car just makes those cars look extremely plain. If I were to assess both brands, Tesla definitely has better tech. However, Porsche and I would say the EQ series of Mercedes just have better build quality (fit and finish). From a looks perspective, this Taycan Turbo S is probably the best looking car on the road. I wish Porsche made a $60-$70k Model 3 performance competitor. The charging architecture just isn't there yet for non-Teslas unless if you live in California.
@@Driven-Productions very true!! I just going to wait until I graduate and get my foot in the door in the tech industry and once I do I plan on going for an E63 or S7 to start off so I can understand how taking care of luxury car goes. I’ve had Q60 Rs & 5.0 but was fairly okay not the level of the next cars I have in my mind .. 5 years I want to get an taycan for sure
Stop this brake wear talk, the Porsche when pressing the brake, will always regen as much as possible no matter what, and then use mechanical brakes for the rest of the missing brake performance. The Tesla is the one with the much more simple brakes, if you do not want one pedal driving or like coasting in a Tesla, the regen is shut off entirely and the only thing slowing down is the mechanical brakes. On top of that a model 3 will only brake around 80kw and the Taycan is 265kw. So the Tesla is actually the one wearing out brakes the most, if any of them does that. Fix the audio levels, if speech is 100% volume, then set the music to 20% volume, that would make them fairly equal.
Well you almost never use the brakes in a Tesla, especially in Ludicrous modes since it regens pretty aggressively. Honestly love this feature and wish the Taycan had it. At the end of the day you do have to use the brakes often in spirited driving, which maybe most enthusiast drivers prefer since it’s similar to a ICE vehicle. On volume levels, what are you listening with? Thats the first audio level comment I’ve had in a few videos, music was set to 30%. Appreciate the comment, and adding some helpful information for others.
@@Driven-Productions Yes you almost never use the brakes, because a tesla is just pressing the electronic regen brakes for you, when you let go of the throttle pedal. The Taycan is not using the mechanical brakes before you press the brake pedal more then half way down or something like that. Until the pedal is pressed more then 50% the Taycan will use electronic regen only, so no wear is happening on the mechanical brakes. And because the Taycan can regen more then a Tesla and it generally also has bigger brakes mounted, the brakes should last even longer then Tesla brakes, not counting corrosion of course.
The Plaid is faster and get about 30 more miles of range, but that's it. The Taycan still have better build quality, ride quality, service infrastructure, and DC fast charging speeds.
Sorry, but if you're looking for an honest review with accurate specs and knowledge of the cars, this isn't the one. lol. I'm 6:30 in and I've already rolled my eyes multiple times. Although, not so far back in my head as when he said "the same car Elon Musk drives". Eyes almost did a complete somersault on that one.
The points he's making about braking aren't accurate. It almost seems like he's implying that the Porsche's regenerative braking is somehow using the car's brake hardware to regenerate energy. Regenerative braking uses the turning of the motors to create a magnetic field that generates electricity while slowing the car down; it never has anything to do with the car's friction brakes. Whether it's the Porsche, the Tesla, or even a Chevy Volt; they use the motors during regenerative braking. The difference is that Tesla has stronger lift-off regen as you take your foot off the go pedal. Regen isn't impacted at all by the brake pedal. You push the brake pedal in a Tesla, and it uses the friction brakes in conjunction with the full lift-off regen. In the Porsche, it has very little liftoff regen, but the brake pedal will blend regen and friction braking. It'll use regen braking first until it needs to apply the friction brakes. 80% of your braking power is coming from the motors, not the physical brakes. Even if you need to use the brake PEDAL a lot, you're NOT using the friction brakes all that much unless you're REALLY stomping on the brake pedal. Thus you won't be going through brake pads often as was claimed. While the Tesla's lift-off regen braking is great for slowing down as soon as you lift off the go pedal... it does make coasting and pinpoint accuracy in cornering speed harder to modulate. For example, say you want to coast into a turn while covering the brake in case you go in at too fast of a speed. Taking your foot off the go pedal to cover the brake pedal and wanting to coast into the corner isn't possible in the Tesla without going into the settings and turning off regen. I believe that's only possible in track mode... It seems the reviewer is struggling a bit to get his brain to let go of the lift-off regen system and remember how a traditional braking system works. That's been a complaint with other components as well. When people drive non-Teslas and have to use a start button, it's not an issue. It only becomes an issue when they drive a Tesla without a start button, then get back into a car with one. You get used to a start button not being there, so you have to re-wire your brain to get used to having one again. Same can be said for people who drive a Tesla for the first time, they start looking around for a start button without finding one. It's an uncomfortable feeling. They have a hard time modulating the go pedal because of the heavy lift-off regen it applies. I believe that both cars are capable of turning off regen completely for track usage, strictly using the friction brakes instead. This is due to regen braking heating up the battery, which over a long track session can overheat it. In that case, both cars go/brake pedals will work the same. The difference is that the Porsche has larger, more powerful, and more capable friction brakes. Especially on this trim which comes with the carbon ceramic package. You can supposedly get a larger carbon ceramic brake package on the Tesla for an additional $20k, but the option isn't available for order on their site.
Just goes to show that manufactures are dropping the ball not forming a consortium and pooling money to rapidly expand charging stations and maintenance work for them. Tesla "killers" never stand a chance because regardless how good the car is they all fail compared to the supercharger network.
Tesla isn’t a car it’s tech package in a car shape. Inside they’re cheap, seats are not vaguely comfortable, little support. Lacks any passion. External design cues also very weak. Not very well engineered unless software side.
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This is one of your best videos yet! Loved when you showed the car at the power station.
Yeah I like how this one turned out. Wet weather was a challenge had to color correct the videos they were so dark at times from thick clouds. But, at least it was not 99 and humid, or 32 and windy as in recent shoots 😂
At 10:50 you incorrectly state that the Taycan has no regenerative braking. That is 100% false. It does default to only coast on throttle release and even in its regen mode only exhibits light regen like an automatic transmission. However, the Taycan actually offers the largest amount of regen by simply using the brake pedal. It can cause 0.4g of braking force up to 260kW, over twice what a Tesla will perform on throttle release. Then Porsche will blend in friction brakes as needed quite seamlessly.
You can visually see the regen by looking at the top of the speedometer for the green bar. Or just feel the breaks after a drive. They will not be that hot unless you are driving very aggressively.
Really appreciate you watching and the comment. My goal with that part was to help people understand that this car coasts more vs other EVs I’ve reviewed that regen off the electric motors. It does change the driving dynamic in a big way. Like you said makes it more like an ICE vehicle. Its not bad in anyway, in fact, the Taycan is quite good to drive but you will be using that brake pedal a whole lot more than say a Tesla Plaid.
@@Driven-Productions completely agree with that statement, you will be using the brake pedal a lot more than a Tesla or other EVs where you can set a high amount of off-throttle regen.
Btw this is hardly noticeable in freeway driving as I use Porsche InnoDrive which is Adaptive Cruz Control with lane centering that works even above 100mph (so I read 😎)
@@ronb4633 Must be nice owning such an awesome car 🙂
Porsche set the brakes up so when you push on the pedal slightly, it uses regeneration. Only when you push harder do the friction brakes come into play. I love this spec with these wheels, but if I was making my own, I'd get a red or grey interior with the Mission E Wheels and with a dark blue paint.
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I believe it's 80% of the braking power comes from regenerative braking. You can stomp on that brake pedal pretty hard before it blends in the friction brakes. The 800V system in this vehicle allows it to regenerate a LOT of energy. I do believe regen can be disabled completely for track racing where battery temperature is more important than brake wear.
Amazing video man! Keep them coming! The cars are awesome! Great reviews!
Will do bro. Got a GT3 coming, Lotus Emira, 765lt spider and more in 2022 👊
I like the two pedal braking like an ICE car. It feel discomfort using one pedal for everything.
You know that’s an element I really don’t miss on my daily driver. Otherwise, give me a six speed
Fantastic daily driver and on another level indeed, incidentally I hear Tesla are making their superchargers available to all manufacturers- excellent review Adam
I could very well see a Taycan Turbo S in my future, to replace the Tesla. They have depreciated dramatically.
Great video. You're wrong about regenerative braking though. The Taycan does regenerative braking. It's just so well executed that you can't Tell the difference from conventional braking.
Yep. Its done well, but also wish it regenerated through the electric motors. Love this feature on both our Teslas.
@@Driven-Productions Well this is exactly what the Taycan does. 😉 It brakes through the electric Motors.
@@MaxMustermann-vu8ir but it still wears the brakes down no? And it also requires you to press them?
@@Driven-Productions No it does not. The Taycan uses regenerative braking with the electric motors for about 90% of the braking.
@@MaxMustermann-vu8ir I thought I had regen on, but your saying the electric motor does have this feature to recapture like the Tesla can? Sure I read the brakes regenerate as I mentioned, but thats upon pedal activation, not just lifting off the accelerator.
In any case, it was not slowing down on lift off, I mean barley. Felt more like an ICE car coasting. Maybe I didn’t play enough with it.
Such a beautiful car. Great video love the channel
Thank you, Joseph. Really appreciate the love, and yeah dig the car nice job Porsche. Have a great weekend
Model S and Model X are boring to drive. Great acceleration (although they overheat quickly) but on country roads they feel heavy and uninspiring. Model 3 is better and IMHO is the best Tesla money can buy today. Performance version is IMHO best car in its price range money can buy.
But Taycan is different beast. It puts smile on your face, it excites, it makes you feel like little boy with amazing toy, despite its weight it feels nimble, probably thanks to dynamic steering and 4 wheel steering. When I drove it first time I giggled for 30 minutes, I never had anywhere close the same fun in Tesla.
Porsche is pricey but you certainly get what you paid for.
Appreciate the comment, and yeah I agree. Model S is fast and sporty, but never feels like a sports car like this does.
Yeah Model 3 Performance and Model Y Performance are fantastic values. They are some of the cars out there. Also Teslas don't depreciate massively like nearly all other BEVs. The 5-year resale value is around 55% on all Teslas. The Taycan is pretty bad though at 39% resale value after 5 years. Most other BEVs are in the 35% to 40% range. Most other regular cars are around 50%. The 911 is one of the highest at around 85%.
@@nafnaf0 I can't speak for other markets but in the UK 20 reg (2020 model) Tesla Model 3 lost ~50% value whereas 20reg (2020 model) Taycan 4S lost around 25% during the same period.
This means driving Model 3 and Taycan 4S between 2020 to 2023 would cost you the same, around £20k loss in resale value. Crazy!
Petrol powered Porsche always kept their value well and, although early to make judgements, first data suggests Taycan will be similar.
I dont see a problem in the range of taycan,because here in Europe,we dont usually go above 100-150 miles around,so between cities or in town,this is much better than a tesla from a lot points of view!Anyway,good review!✌️
I hear you on the range, just not great for road trips. I had a 300 mile trip yesterday, and opted for a gas bike vs the Tesla because didn’t want to add another 45 min charging stop.
I was truly interested in getting one, until you showed the lack of regeneration braking. I love my MSP for that. Thanks for the informative video👍
Well it has regen mode just requires the use of the brakes. Glad to have helped though enjoy the Plaid. Please sub working on new content weekly 👊
The TAYCON does have regeneration braking buddy. You can turn it on or off.
@@williamcopeland2617 it was turned on for the POV drive, but still requires the use of the brake pedal, which is different than some of the competitors. Not bad, just different. Overall, love the car 🤙
@@williamcopeland2617 their regeneration braking doesn't brake...
Hey bro, good vid!! You know I’m no fan of electric stuff but if I was to get one, it would be one of these. 👍👍
Yeah bro enjoyed this car, expensive but its a solid product. Amazing for their first ev mass production attempt.
Good review, you just don’t get Tesla drivers praising other non Tesla cars to this degree and acknowledging that Teslas do have faults
I try to keep it real, without hating. Really liked this car, in many ways its a better car than the Model S.
As can be expected, great video!
Thank you 🙏
Wish you would have done launch control, its insane. That basic launch you did didn’t use anywhere near the full power. It would have shot like a rocket even in the wet. Would have loved to see your reactions. Otherwise as a Taycan Turbo owner, it was a great video.
Thank you for watching and commenting. It felt plenty fast without launch control 😂 Please sub working on new content weekly.
Another high quality product from Porsche. Great video and info.
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I don't think the wheels on it is as beautiful as the mission-e wheels, those wheels are just on another level
I dig these wheels, but those are dope too
Sorry but you have missinformation about breaking. Breaking uses the electric motors up to 0.5G and has up to 290KW electric generation. It's just not one paddle driving. Also you haven't used launch control so you haven't had full acceleration, since you have to step on both bedals for a few seconds until launch control is displayed in the main display.
I’m that guy. Lol. I’m going to order one for the fall. My new daily.
Man buy this one - save yourself $30k and no wait. Its minty, and full PPF
Solid review 👌
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Here I thought that Teslas were good looking cars, I have a Model 3 Performance and my wife has a Model Y Performance. This car just makes those cars look extremely plain.
If I were to assess both brands, Tesla definitely has better tech. However, Porsche and I would say the EQ series of Mercedes just have better build quality (fit and finish). From a looks perspective, this Taycan Turbo S is probably the best looking car on the road. I wish Porsche made a $60-$70k Model 3 performance competitor.
The charging architecture just isn't there yet for non-Teslas unless if you live in California.
Good comprehensive review.
Thank you for watching
If you don’t want to drive, just use ride share. Porsches are for people who like driving.
Savage. This thing is bananas. 🍌
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After i become an cyber security engineer , im going to buy an car from you brother 3 years max! mark my words
You don’t have to start with a $185k Taycan- lots of great cars that hold their value substantially less and affordable today
@@Driven-Productions very true!! I just going to wait until I graduate and get my foot in the door in the tech industry and once I do I plan on going for an E63 or S7 to start off so I can understand how taking care of luxury car goes. I’ve had Q60 Rs & 5.0 but was fairly okay not the level of the next cars I have in my mind .. 5 years I want to get an taycan for sure
Great video! Not a big fan of ev, but maybe I should give this a try
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Camera and audio is flawless 👍
Thank you - its been a labor of love over the years. Please subscribe got some cool content planned
the only thing you are early adopting is wearing shades when its raining
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Stop this brake wear talk, the Porsche when pressing the brake, will always regen as much as possible no matter what, and then use mechanical brakes for the rest of the missing brake performance.
The Tesla is the one with the much more simple brakes, if you do not want one pedal driving or like coasting in a Tesla, the regen is shut off entirely and the only thing slowing down is the mechanical brakes.
On top of that a model 3 will only brake around 80kw and the Taycan is 265kw.
So the Tesla is actually the one wearing out brakes the most, if any of them does that.
Fix the audio levels, if speech is 100% volume, then set the music to 20% volume, that would make them fairly equal.
Well you almost never use the brakes in a Tesla, especially in Ludicrous modes since it regens pretty aggressively. Honestly love this feature and wish the Taycan had it. At the end of the day you do have to use the brakes often in spirited driving, which maybe most enthusiast drivers prefer since it’s similar to a ICE vehicle.
On volume levels, what are you listening with? Thats the first audio level comment I’ve had in a few videos, music was set to 30%.
Appreciate the comment, and adding some helpful information for others.
@@Driven-Productions Yes you almost never use the brakes, because a tesla is just pressing the electronic regen brakes for you, when you let go of the throttle pedal.
The Taycan is not using the mechanical brakes before you press the brake pedal more then half way down or something like that.
Until the pedal is pressed more then 50% the Taycan will use electronic regen only, so no wear is happening on the mechanical brakes.
And because the Taycan can regen more then a Tesla and it generally also has bigger brakes mounted, the brakes should last even longer then Tesla brakes, not counting corrosion of course.
Quite inaccurate review, it does have reg on the breaking, if you set it up. It’s a real car.
I love this car...God damn lol...
Still available 👊
Why do I get the impression u've never driven a Plaid? It makes the Turbo S moot. U would not see where I went!
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The Plaid is faster and get about 30 more miles of range, but that's it. The Taycan still have better build quality, ride quality, service infrastructure, and DC fast charging speeds.
@@Cakebattered agree 👊
Sorry, but if you're looking for an honest review with accurate specs and knowledge of the cars, this isn't the one. lol. I'm 6:30 in and I've already rolled my eyes multiple times. Although, not so far back in my head as when he said "the same car Elon Musk drives". Eyes almost did a complete somersault on that one.
The points he's making about braking aren't accurate. It almost seems like he's implying that the Porsche's regenerative braking is somehow using the car's brake hardware to regenerate energy. Regenerative braking uses the turning of the motors to create a magnetic field that generates electricity while slowing the car down; it never has anything to do with the car's friction brakes. Whether it's the Porsche, the Tesla, or even a Chevy Volt; they use the motors during regenerative braking.
The difference is that Tesla has stronger lift-off regen as you take your foot off the go pedal. Regen isn't impacted at all by the brake pedal. You push the brake pedal in a Tesla, and it uses the friction brakes in conjunction with the full lift-off regen. In the Porsche, it has very little liftoff regen, but the brake pedal will blend regen and friction braking. It'll use regen braking first until it needs to apply the friction brakes. 80% of your braking power is coming from the motors, not the physical brakes. Even if you need to use the brake PEDAL a lot, you're NOT using the friction brakes all that much unless you're REALLY stomping on the brake pedal. Thus you won't be going through brake pads often as was claimed.
While the Tesla's lift-off regen braking is great for slowing down as soon as you lift off the go pedal... it does make coasting and pinpoint accuracy in cornering speed harder to modulate. For example, say you want to coast into a turn while covering the brake in case you go in at too fast of a speed. Taking your foot off the go pedal to cover the brake pedal and wanting to coast into the corner isn't possible in the Tesla without going into the settings and turning off regen. I believe that's only possible in track mode...
It seems the reviewer is struggling a bit to get his brain to let go of the lift-off regen system and remember how a traditional braking system works. That's been a complaint with other components as well. When people drive non-Teslas and have to use a start button, it's not an issue. It only becomes an issue when they drive a Tesla without a start button, then get back into a car with one. You get used to a start button not being there, so you have to re-wire your brain to get used to having one again. Same can be said for people who drive a Tesla for the first time, they start looking around for a start button without finding one. It's an uncomfortable feeling. They have a hard time modulating the go pedal because of the heavy lift-off regen it applies.
I believe that both cars are capable of turning off regen completely for track usage, strictly using the friction brakes instead. This is due to regen braking heating up the battery, which over a long track session can overheat it. In that case, both cars go/brake pedals will work the same. The difference is that the Porsche has larger, more powerful, and more capable friction brakes. Especially on this trim which comes with the carbon ceramic package. You can supposedly get a larger carbon ceramic brake package on the Tesla for an additional $20k, but the option isn't available for order on their site.
@@updlate4756 really appreciate the comment and taking the time that you did.
Just goes to show that manufactures are dropping the ball not forming a consortium and pooling money to rapidly expand charging stations and maintenance work for them. Tesla "killers" never stand a chance because regardless how good the car is they all fail compared to the supercharger network.
Electrify American and similar branded stations are popping up all over. But no doubt Tesla is well ahead of them all.
Way too much going on in the first minute of this video.
Didn’t like the edit ha - I liked this one but agree the sound effects were a bit much. Videographer had fun what can I say 😂
Tesla isn’t a car it’s tech package in a car shape. Inside they’re cheap, seats are not vaguely comfortable, little support. Lacks any passion. External design cues also very weak. Not very well engineered unless software side.
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