Everyone now has to take responsibility for their own community. You can't wait for SAPS or any state entity. I don't like the Orania people, but look how they built a self-sufficient, self-reliant community that doesn't depend on service delivery by the state. Why are there no black municipalities that are self-reliant and self-sufficient like Orania? If bigot Boeres can do it, our people should be able to do it too.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
@@esahm373 These "bigot Boeres" know what you black heathens are, this is why you're not allowed in there to collapse their system as well. And no, I don't think "your people are able do it too" cause we don't serve the same God!
As a black South African I can clearly see that you did nothing wrong brave Man. You're an amazing person and may you continue doing the great job that you have been doing.
Apart from that! Lest leave the past behind and build the country. It’s 28 years now, the country is still a joke. Let’s speak the truth. On Cele - he is a man I view with high regard. He was not himself that day. Sometimes, even if one is angry, he has to respect his position. He lost it totally. Maybe he was too much provoked. I wish he had ignored everything and continued with his business.
@@maritimestudies6264 Cele wasn't provoked!! No excuse for his bad behaviour! It's racism, the past .... that's what's eating him! That happens when people hold unto the past, instead of moving forward, forgive and forget, and do what is right for SA. All about position and power. After all, the truth came from a white South African .... think that was the real issue. Not thankful for a brave man caring for people!! The saying goes "YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU CAN'T AKNOWLEDGE"!
@@Elaine-rz4ph We are trying not to put salt in the wound. As to who is on the wrong is for courts. We are trying to calm people down. We are all stressed by non- delivery , state capture et al. This has nothing to do with colour, is about a failed state under ANC, but other political groups that might take over must thread carefully. We need people we can trust. Fighting about clear issues won’t help.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
That's one of the biggest problems we have & the Govt. Thrives on it.. Everyone complains, but nobody is prepared to put their shoulder to the wheel. If every citizen stands up & collectively hold the Govt. Accountable & tell them where the buck stops.. It will be a game changer.
This is why so many people want to leave this country. It's a sinking ship and people are realizing this. All hypocrites screaming when they confronted with reality.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
I dunno if that's such a great idea anymore. What with Ukraine and all. If those bombs start going off any time soon I think SA's going to be a whole hell of a lot better than, say England.
Sorry to say, but we have gone down to far. Like Zimbabwe, Venezuela. Now I don't care who or what race takes over the country, as long as that person stand for SA and her citizens.
@@rodneyvanrensburg910 we need direct elections so you and I can vote our own president into power That means the constitution must change I also don’t care what colour can be purple for all I care
@@vanessacouve8847 Absolutely, can we start off dismantling every national party. Start fresh where the gets to vote the members of said party. Then votes followed by which member goes to which department. Should that member be found incompetent, the public will vote for a new one.
Why are we not talking about the disgusting racist attack upon Ian Cameron. Reverse the colors of the protagonists and we all know the reaction would be different. Racism is vile no matter who it comes from
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
All I can is that the citizens are waking up and pulling a struggle card is the very same reason we find ourselves in this mess, loadshedding, corruption and crime is spiralling under the struggle credentials.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
Cele was more pissed at Ian than he was with any other issue that's come across his table, even the destructive Durban riots last year didn't phase him at all. His priorities are confused somewhat.
No one who is confident in themselves personally and their professional capabilities lashes out like that. I wouldn't be surprised if deep down Cele truly believes himself to be the "garden boy" who happened to make. Shameful ineptitude.
Love his confidence.. no need to fear..an empty gong It always make Rascist of a minister Upon his running across the country crime is rising each n evry sec .He is suppose to be ashamed..
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
Cele is like the rest of our ministers. They see the Skin colour of the person before listening to the discussion point being made. And he will never admit it nor apologise to Ian for his unprofessional rant. This is the calibre of all our ministers. They forget they are Civil servants! I suppose me using the word servant makes me racist as well now…
Investigate this individual's qualifications. He declares that he has a teaching diploma from the "University of Education". There is no such institution in SA, only in Ghana. Go figure... and INVESTIGATE.
It's not even that. Skin colour is just a tool to them, to try shut down any argument that shows their incompetence/corruption etc... Pullimg the race card is only defence they have left...
Cele and most South African ministers acting as though they are untouchable royalty. It wouldn’t occur to them that they are civil servants I.e SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE!
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
Yes. He doesn't aveany facts. He is removed from reality like Ian says. He is also suffering from an inferiority complex so he is using Ian as an emotional crutch. I think you should definitely lay a charge against him
Well done Mr Cameron, you spoke for the people, not like Cele the idiot that made it a personal issue, he can write a book if he likes, but it did not address the issue. Perhaps Cele reacted that way to avoid the truth.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
The Japanese philosophy regarding all workers are to do two things when you see someone working: You have to greet them and you have to respect them. Gardeners and all kind of workers deserve that, they earn an honest living. Unlike politicians, who manipulate and intimidate, rather than to work for their money. A Mamelodi east police officer once had a discussion with me, he said Cele is destroying the police, that was 2 years ago
Keep fighting the good fight - when they are under pressure like this, it's when they start to crack. Keep at it, South African's need to feel safer. Cele was feeling the fire yesterday
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
Does he think he is above a gardener or a cleaner. I have the best gardener in the world! He is such an honorable and polite person, a sincere and humble person! Me and my family have the greatest respect for him!
@@stanzankosi66 He is obsessed with status. Most South Africans care more about character and whether this person is going to rob you behind your back. Politicians are so far removed from reality nowadays. A gardener working to put food on the plate in his house is worth 10x more than a Cele who does nothing but keep destructive people in places of power.
I fully agree with Minister Cele that he is not a Gardenboy. A Gardenboy is a hardworking citizen on the lower end of the economic scale who works HONORABLY & HARD to provide for his family by not being part of a cabal of corrupt thieves that the ANC is. I would rather beg to say that Minister Cele is an arrogant buffoon that will do well in a circus. Well done to Ian!
Good grief, what a pathetic little man (Cele). They all think they can rely on their “struggle credentials” from 30 plus years ago indefinitely. As if that exonerates them all from gross incompetence, negligence and corruption. It’s truly pathetic to now see the bullying tactics being used against citizens who are unhappy with their non-delivery. Such as with the forcible removal of Action Society’s Ian Cameron from the meeting hall. Shame on you Cele and SAPS!
A gardener has struggle credentials getting up early in the morning to go work and beautify the country to the glory of God not to go bomb innocent people because of a lack of humility and diligence in the sight of God who is the real hero's
He has no struggle credentials, all were bullshit. He spent 2 weeks in Angola on a crash course. Nothing for those days. 6 weeks in Lusaka in exile. He such a bullshitter, he propably was visiting his chick. 👋
@@ambrosegxothani2936 Europeans should be sorted out they should not be allowed to Insult ministers . Where was Ian when de Klerk and his ministers were butchering Africans . Crime was all over the country from 1948 onwards.......
Bongani the citizen in this case Ian has every right to say he is tired of the minister's nonsense as does every citizen and it does not to be prefaced by the word Political. The minister does not enjoy any greater priveledge than an ordinary citizen.
😂😂 cele did the opposite of what he was trying to do n that was to shut the guy up instead he made him famous n now everyone knows who Ian Cameron is now !what he stands for is what infuriates the clown in a hat cos he as a minister failed to accomplish so far
South Africans!!!! It is about time for ALL of us to unite against this corrupt and self preserving regime. They care not for our pain, our death or our suffering, and it matters not what Color u are! The self entitlement and arrogance with which they operate is a smack in the face for anyone who desires nothing but peace, prosperity and happiness for ALL SOUTH AFRICANS. Cry our beloved country, cry!!!
It's amazing that we still have people who are self sacrificial and committed for the people of South Africa. I support Ian and the organization he belongs to.
The politicians and ministers must stop using how they struggled in the past, well we all struggled. We have serious problems in our lives and in this country. The crux of the matter is what are they doing now to fix this country's mess they in the first place created. Nobody besides them are to be blamed. If they claim that they were struggle heroes then , then what stops them from being heroes now to fix this problem. The way he spoke to Ian was very disrespectful, Cele and his department knows they have failed to stop the ever spiraling crimes in this country.
Cele is a school teacher. He don't belong in that post. He think we are kids. Give his job to someone who is capable and has the experience for that post
Bheki Cele played an incredible role ending the suffering of people in Richmond at the peak of apartheid and political tensions. To see him get so removed from reality is sad... And the same goes for a lot of ANC politicians. Now there's Ian and Nhlanhla Lux doing what police should do...
I was a Marine in the SA Navy and spent 2 months in Richmond in the mid 80s keeping the peace between the warring ANC factions, Cele was definitely part of the problem and was never part of the solution, we saved countless peoples lives and prevented many necklaceings. Our peacekeeping role was and still is grossly misunderstood.
@@gailwannenburg5291 it’s crazy how the propaganda has rewritten history in the minds of many. I remember doing patrols there roughly the same time you would have been there and for reasons never given, we sometimes were forced to patrol the township without any ammunition.
‘If he doesn’t like that, grow up.’ The fixing of our country is in our hands, politics has hindered so much for far too long, if you don’t have the scars on your hands to show that you’ve been down in the dirt, then sit down ☺️
I love what Ian did which is stating the truth, really Minister Bheki Cele is only a minister by title and not his work, he knows nothing about the community and its issues and Ian was brave enough to actually say it. We need more brave people like Ian and I'm very disappointed by how hypocritical the people who were in that meeting were they didn't stood up for Ian but he was fighting for the whole country.
The only way the people can grab the power back from the ANC is by the same violent means that they grabbed it in the first place. Civil discussion is met with pure contempt.
No of course they wouldn't be shaken by his rants. One cant help wondering if the roles were reversed where a white man shouted like that at a black guy..... then you'd be in a froth!!!!!
Well done Ian. That debate showed how truth can bruise the ego of the so called 'Superior' We stand for anyone who can stand up for truth. In the history of mankind, truth never failed. It looks like the so called ministers vocabulary only contains one word 'shut up'. Ego can make you believe you are invincible. As for anger over the gardener, the gardener is also a man of status but humble. A minister is not a minister of he thinks of a gardener to be a low cast individual. How can youth and society be expected to respect a minister who has a one word dictionary.. This is not about colour or race, this is about living righteously. Selvan Pillay South Africa
I have read every comment below and it is extremely encouraging that all cultures are standing together and condemns Cele's conduct. This is how we build a new South Africa. out with the old and in with the new. We cannot let the old revolutionists and apartheid era divide us, we are stronger than that as South Africans. As a minister, his conduct is an extremely poor example to his subordinates and they will lead by setting the same poor example and have entitlement.
It's sad that most of us black people we are able to point out racist people when it's directed to us but when it's a black person who hold such a high position like Bheki Cele we turn a blind eye. Very sad.
The best thing to come out of this is probably an amapiano remix of Cele's "shut up", we had one for Julius "Revolutionary House" and "When People Zol"
The God of creation sees every man's inner heart. JUSTICE WILL BE SEEN AND DONE. Cele.....Call to Jesus Now to save you and forgive you for all and everything you have done to sadden Him for His Love for you. You can escape His loving justice. I pray you will call Him. He Loves you.
im proud to say...ive never voted anc in my life...the old people used to tell us long ago..if these comrades ever got to lead this country...they would destroy it..they were right
For anybody that don't appreciate Ian Cameron's approach and who and what he represents, I would dare say they don’t belong and more so are not deserving of their position in office. People need to see to understand and make sure that the inability to support Cameron's stance should not represent them in office. This is not the Banana Republic they continue to make us as people of South Africa, to be. Just go Bekhi, just go!
What colour do we need to be South African? When are we going to harness the inspiration and commitment to build a a better South Africa? The greater population of South Africa wants change! Currently all political parties are failing us as South Africans! Lockdown on election daywould be an interesting concept.
God is in control. People must understand that. We are not above him , and he is watching everything that's going on and we will be judged and time is nearing for the return of Jesus Christ.
My new Hero and I was in politics along time , and left because you are like a sheep you must go with the flow and if you are different you get kicked out. Policies over promises. Damn politicians.
Cele should take responsibility and accountability in his job. Instead, he lashed out because his incompetence was challenged. His a text book example of the Dunning-Kruger effect viz. incompetent people are too incompetent to realize their own incompetence, or to put it bluntly; stupid people are too stupid to realize their own stupidity. As Schopenhauer once said; truth passes through three levels. First it's denied, then it's violently opposed, and finally its accepted. Cele's current level of truth is painfully obvious!
That minister has forgotten his place! "He is a public servant not the other way around" U don't tell your boss to shut up!, Bheki works for us the Public
Kudos to you Mr Cameron. 💐👌🏼 Thank you 🙏🏼 for doing a superb job in assisting the communities in the Western Cape. You did nothing wrong by speaking out and telling the truth. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Loving you and your spirit. ❣️ Keep up doing the awesome work you and ACTION SOCIETY are doing.
Lisa you would be surprised the day you learn that the majority of the white people are not racist. The thing is that an entire ethnic group are being "hated" by people of the past. But I believe we will be able to overcome all and stand up united regardless, sex, and race
Bheki Cele is to old to be in a leadership position, his way of thinking is out of date it is true he is disconnected from reality. Maybe he still thinks he is fighting against the Apartheid regime with his garden boy comment. We need leadership from the modern era these pensioners in parliament need to retire. The depressing part is that the ANC is now actively generating African poverty. Eastern Cape schools does not have proper toilets since 1994. Every state owned enterprise have been looted and yet Bheki Cele is shouting shut up. African communities living in sewage. Then ANC mention Apartheid every time a difficult question comes up, the question that should be asked is their any difference between the Apartheid government and the current one in power?
Bongs, mybe is about time to school Mr Cele what is walk the talk v/s being everywhere anytime you wish to!! I wonder who's preparing reports for him....Clearly!#
Bheki Cele shows total disrespect towards Gardners and cleaners. He talks down to people who earns a honest wage.
Ja nee ek stem saam met jou en hulle was nie 'n tronk voel soos die minister van polisie nie.
my exact same thoughts! My gardener is a landscaper
I have a lot more respect for all the gardeners I have ever employed than for Bheki Cele.
Hear hear.
Absolutely spot on.
I'm a black person myself, I agree with the young man, crime is out of control in this country, Beki Cele has failed.
Everyone now has to take responsibility for their own community. You can't wait for SAPS or any state entity. I don't like the Orania people, but look how they built a self-sufficient, self-reliant community that doesn't depend on service delivery by the state. Why are there no black municipalities that are self-reliant and self-sufficient like Orania? If bigot Boeres can do it, our people should be able to do it too.
Hallelujah... something ALL South Africans can agree on no matter what ✊
The entire ANC has failed
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
@@esahm373 These "bigot Boeres" know what you black heathens are, this is why you're not allowed in there to collapse their system as well. And no, I don't think "your people are able do it too" cause we don't serve the same God!
The Police dragged the wrong person away.
Exactly....
Its only in a ANC led south africa where those who tell the truth will be drag away!!!
As a black South African I can clearly see that you did nothing wrong brave Man.
You're an amazing person and may you continue doing the great job that you have been doing.
Apart from that! Lest leave the past behind and build the country. It’s 28 years now, the country is still a joke. Let’s speak the truth. On Cele - he is a man I view with high regard. He was not himself that day. Sometimes, even if one is angry, he has to respect his position. He lost it totally. Maybe he was too much provoked. I wish he had ignored everything and continued with his business.
@@maritimestudies6264 Cele wasn't provoked!! No excuse for his bad behaviour! It's racism, the past .... that's what's eating him! That happens when people hold unto the past, instead of moving forward, forgive and forget, and do what is right for SA. All about position and power. After all, the truth came from a white South African .... think that was the real issue. Not thankful for a brave man caring for people!! The saying goes "YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU CAN'T AKNOWLEDGE"!
@@Elaine-rz4ph We are trying not to put salt in the wound. As to who is on the wrong is for courts. We are trying to calm people down. We are all stressed by non- delivery , state capture et al. This has nothing to do with colour, is about a failed state under ANC, but other political groups that might take over must thread carefully. We need people we can trust. Fighting about clear issues won’t help.
@@maritimestudies6264 Cele made it about colour.
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He must step aside
He is a failure
Beki cele is the kinda person that wants to ban guns but walks with 50 armed body guards
He's not "the kind of guy" he's exactly the guy!
Exactly....
Beki Cele cannot handle facts. He was being childish
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
i am so disappointed the black people in the hall did not support or stand up for Ian.Yet he is trying to help the black people........
Because black anc supporters are racists
That's one of the biggest problems we have & the Govt. Thrives on it.. Everyone complains, but nobody is prepared to put their shoulder to the wheel. If every citizen stands up & collectively hold the Govt. Accountable & tell them where the buck stops.. It will be a game changer.
Helping what do you mean black people not himself
@@fanievilankulu6412 Come again?
@@johnarch6876 on top of you
I was not aware of Action Society,but from you conduct I am a follower.
Ian Cameron,your my hero.
This is why so many people want to leave this country. It's a sinking ship and people are realizing this. All hypocrites screaming when they confronted with reality.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
I dunno if that's such a great idea anymore. What with Ukraine and all. If those bombs start going off any time soon I think SA's going to be a whole hell of a lot better than, say England.
We have a serious serious problem in this country We need to get rid of the ANC before this country folds
it is too late already the collapse has started
Things are falling apart already we need to convince the masses of this country to vote for better leadership.
Sorry to say, but we have gone down to far. Like Zimbabwe, Venezuela. Now I don't care who or what race takes over the country, as long as that person stand for SA and her citizens.
@@rodneyvanrensburg910 we need direct elections so you and I can vote our own president into power That means the constitution must change I also don’t care what colour can be purple for all I care
@@vanessacouve8847 Absolutely, can we start off dismantling every national party. Start fresh where the gets to vote the members of said party. Then votes followed by which member goes to which department. Should that member be found incompetent, the public will vote for a new one.
Why are we not talking about the disgusting racist attack upon Ian Cameron. Reverse the colors of the protagonists and we all know the reaction would be different. Racism is vile no matter who it comes from
Because the black community have been brought up with a chip on their shoulder thinking they were born a victim of racism.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
All I can is that the citizens are waking up and pulling a struggle card is the very same reason we find ourselves in this mess, loadshedding, corruption and crime is spiralling under the struggle credentials.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
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Start dismantling the ANC THRSE PEOPLE HAVE DESTROYED MADIBA DREAMS
Cele was more pissed at Ian than he was with any other issue that's come across his table, even the destructive Durban riots last year didn't phase him at all. His priorities are confused somewhat.
No one who is confident in themselves personally and their professional capabilities lashes out like that. I wouldn't be surprised if deep down Cele truly believes himself to be the "garden boy" who happened to make.
Shameful ineptitude.
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Love his confidence.. no need to fear..an empty gong It always make Rascist of a minister Upon his running across the country crime is rising each n evry sec .He is suppose to be ashamed..
Cele's behaviour is a disgrace!! He should be fired for being an oaf and for incompetence.... and same for those officers who bullied Ian...
Legend. Will keep an eye on this dynamic and brave young man.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
@@gailwaters814 even the word terrorist isnt to far fetch as freedom was handed to them and not won in a mythical battle.
Cele is like the rest of our ministers. They see the Skin colour of the person before listening to the discussion point being made. And he will never admit it nor apologise to Ian for his unprofessional rant. This is the calibre of all our ministers. They forget they are Civil servants! I suppose me using the word servant makes me racist as well now…
Investigate this individual's qualifications. He declares that he has a teaching diploma from the "University of Education". There is no such institution in SA, only in Ghana. Go figure... and INVESTIGATE.
@@robinbehrens8733 Lots of these ANC politician have degree from soviet universities that are " not for use within the soviet union"
It's not even that. Skin colour is just a tool to them, to try shut down any argument that shows their incompetence/corruption etc... Pullimg the race card is only defence they have left...
Cele and most South African ministers acting as though they are untouchable royalty. It wouldn’t occur to them that they are civil servants I.e SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE!
Being called a racist by the useless deployed ANC comrades is a badge of honor.
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
He could not answer question, hence the rant.
Yes. He doesn't aveany facts. He is removed from reality like Ian says. He is also suffering from an inferiority complex so he is using Ian as an emotional crutch.
I think you should definitely lay a charge against him
You are fighting for our people and we are behind ypu
Well done Mr Cameron, you spoke for the people, not like Cele the idiot that made it a personal issue, he can write a book if he likes, but it did not address the issue. Perhaps Cele reacted that way to avoid the truth.
Yes n the fact that he as the Minister of police can't do anything to cut down the crime rate so the only thing he could say was shut up 🤣
Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
Ian Cameron....You are a very Assertive and Brave man for all the Right Moves that must come from many young SOUTH AFRICAN....
Walk here without your bodyguards. He felt that knowing all the crime stats on that area.
The Japanese philosophy regarding all workers are to do two things when you see someone working: You have to greet them and you have to respect them. Gardeners and all kind of workers deserve that, they earn an honest living. Unlike politicians, who manipulate and intimidate, rather than to work for their money. A Mamelodi east police officer once had a discussion with me, he said Cele is destroying the police, that was 2 years ago
Beautiful philosophy. 👌🏼
Keep fighting the good fight - when they are under pressure like this, it's when they start to crack. Keep at it, South African's need to feel safer. Cele was feeling the fire yesterday
thank you brave man good luck with future endeavors god bless
Brass balls homie. Much fire. We are all sick to the gills with the madness, the hopelessness. The worm is turning.
Yup
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Freedom fighters are killers, not leaders. The ANC's big problem is that it is led by old fighters like Cele who have turned into super-rich thieving looters.
Does he think he is above a gardener or a cleaner. I have the best gardener in the world! He is such an honorable and polite person, a sincere and humble person! Me and my family have the greatest respect for him!
I was hurt when he said gardeners and cleaners because we have family members who are gardeners and cleaners, that was so disrespectful!
@@stanzankosi66 Exactly. In first world countries even the lowest paid people are treated on par. It's all walks of life together except freeloaders
@@stanzankosi66 He is obsessed with status. Most South Africans care more about character and whether this person is going to rob you behind your back.
Politicians are so far removed from reality nowadays. A gardener working to put food on the plate in his house is worth 10x more than a Cele who does nothing but keep destructive people in places of power.
I fully agree with Minister Cele that he is not a Gardenboy. A Gardenboy is a hardworking citizen on the lower end of the economic scale who works HONORABLY & HARD to provide for his family by not being part of a cabal of corrupt thieves that the ANC is. I would rather beg to say that Minister Cele is an arrogant buffoon that will do well in a circus. Well done to Ian!
Good grief, what a pathetic little man (Cele). They all think they can rely on their “struggle credentials” from 30 plus years ago indefinitely. As if that exonerates them all from gross incompetence, negligence and corruption. It’s truly pathetic to now see the bullying tactics being used against citizens who are unhappy with their non-delivery. Such as with the forcible removal of Action Society’s Ian Cameron from the meeting hall. Shame on you Cele and SAPS!
A gardener has struggle credentials getting up early in the morning to go work and beautify the country to the glory of God not to go bomb innocent people because of a lack of humility and diligence in the sight of God who is the real hero's
He has no struggle credentials, all were bullshit. He spent 2 weeks in Angola on a crash course. Nothing for those days. 6 weeks in Lusaka in exile. He such a bullshitter, he propably was visiting his chick. 👋
I think Bheki Cele he must retired we don't need the leathers like him
I am just disappointed that the community did not support Ian. He wàs there for them after all.
The curse of a white skin
The community couldn't support Ian because he didn't respect the state organ minister Cele and furthermore Ian was not invited to attend that meeting.
Thats the problem with the anc supporters
@@ambrosegxothani2936 and how do you know that he was not invited . Listen to the interview before commenting
@@ambrosegxothani2936 Europeans should be sorted out they should not be allowed to Insult ministers . Where was Ian when de Klerk and his ministers were butchering Africans . Crime was all over the country from 1948 onwards.......
I have not listened to a 702 clip in the last 10 years.
This was lekker. Thanks.
Cele hates,a certain colour
Bongani the citizen in this case Ian has every right to say he is tired of the minister's nonsense as does every citizen and it does not to be prefaced by the word Political. The minister does not enjoy any greater priveledge than an ordinary citizen.
Sue the Prat in the Hat. The law should be changed that this does not come from the taxpayers money.
😂😂 cele did the opposite of what he was trying to do n that was to shut the guy up instead he made him famous n now everyone knows who Ian Cameron is now !what he stands for is what infuriates the clown in a hat cos he as a minister failed to accomplish so far
South Africans!!!!
It is about time for ALL of us to unite against this corrupt and self preserving regime.
They care not for our pain, our death or our suffering, and it matters not what Color u are!
The self entitlement and arrogance with which they operate is a smack in the face for anyone who desires nothing but peace, prosperity and happiness for ALL SOUTH AFRICANS.
Cry our beloved country, cry!!!
It's amazing that we still have people who are self sacrificial and committed for the people of South Africa.
I support Ian and the organization he belongs to.
The politicians and ministers must stop using how they struggled in the past, well we all struggled. We have serious problems in our lives and in this country. The crux of the matter is what are they doing now to fix this country's mess they in the first place created. Nobody besides them are to be blamed. If they claim that they were struggle heroes then , then what stops them from being heroes now to fix this problem. The way he spoke to Ian was very disrespectful, Cele and his department knows they have failed to stop the ever spiraling crimes in this country.
As if they struggled alone they feel so entitled I wonder what makes them think that
Cele is a school teacher. He don't belong in that post. He think we are kids. Give his job to someone who is capable and has the experience for that post
You go Ian..... I salute your bravery against such behavior of a "minister" 👌🏾
I'm not a radio 702 listener but wow this gentleman at 702 doing the interview has a wonderful voice!!
Bheki Cele's incompetence and arrogance becomes more and more evident whenever he speaks.......
Bheki Cele played an incredible role ending the suffering of people in Richmond at the peak of apartheid and political tensions. To see him get so removed from reality is sad... And the same goes for a lot of ANC politicians. Now there's Ian and Nhlanhla Lux doing what police should do...
I was a Marine in the SA Navy and spent 2 months in Richmond in the mid 80s keeping the peace between the warring ANC factions, Cele was definitely part of the problem and was never part of the solution, we saved countless peoples lives and prevented many necklaceings. Our peacekeeping role was and still is grossly misunderstood.
That is absolute rubbish. I was there monitoring violence in Richmond 34 years ago. He had nothing to do with Richmond
@@gailwannenburg5291 it’s crazy how the propaganda has rewritten history in the minds of many. I remember doing patrols there roughly the same time you would have been there and for reasons never given, we sometimes were forced to patrol the township without any ammunition.
🤣🤣🤣 Bongani, shut up, but Ian , im black and want to say you are brave, big ups to you
‘If he doesn’t like that, grow up.’
The fixing of our country is in our hands, politics has hindered so much for far too long, if you don’t have the scars on your hands to show that you’ve been down in the dirt, then sit down ☺️
Just thugs .
South Africans....Ian Cameron and Nhlanhla lux are the true leaders of tomorrow , MORE ACTION AND VERY LESS 💋 LIP SERVICE IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS
cele plays the race card when he has no answer for his incompetence! Oh, he has an answer - the struggle credentials!!
All of them play the racist gimmick so they get off , l dont understand how come our people dont c it
Absolutely! His incompetence was challenged and instead of taking responsibility and accountability, he lashed out like a rebellious adolescent child.
Race card is what incompetent grifters use when they have nothing else
Nothing will change until the ANC is out!
Give that man a bells!
Classic ad , and the man deserves more than a bells , he deserves a crown
I love what Ian did which is stating the truth, really Minister Bheki Cele is only a minister by title and not his work, he knows nothing about the community and its issues and Ian was brave enough to actually say it. We need more brave people like Ian and I'm very disappointed by how hypocritical the people who were in that meeting were they didn't stood up for Ian but he was fighting for the whole country.
IAN FOR MINISTER OF POLICE!!
The only way the people can grab the power back from the ANC is by the same violent means that they grabbed it in the first place.
Civil discussion is met with pure contempt.
No of course they wouldn't be shaken by his rants. One cant help wondering if the roles were reversed where a white man shouted like that at a black guy..... then you'd be in a froth!!!!!
That's also the behaviour of the ANC when they lose. Be prepared 🩸
Well done Ian.
That debate showed how truth can bruise the ego of the so called 'Superior'
We stand for anyone who can stand up for truth. In the history of mankind, truth never failed.
It looks like the so called ministers vocabulary only contains one word 'shut up'. Ego can make you believe you are invincible.
As for anger over the gardener, the gardener is also a man of status but humble. A minister is not a minister of he thinks of a gardener to be a low cast individual.
How can youth and society be expected to respect a minister who has a one word dictionary..
This is not about colour or race, this is about living righteously.
Selvan Pillay
South Africa
If Cele was a garden boy he'd F**k that up too.
I have read every comment below and it is extremely encouraging that all cultures are standing together and condemns Cele's conduct. This is how we build a new South Africa. out with the old and in with the new. We cannot let the old revolutionists and apartheid era divide us, we are stronger than that as South Africans. As a minister, his conduct is an extremely poor example to his subordinates and they will lead by setting the same poor example and have entitlement.
It's sad that most of us black people we are able to point out racist people when it's directed to us but when it's a black person who hold such a high position like Bheki Cele we turn a blind eye. Very sad.
racism is an easy card to play when you have no answers for your incompetence.
The best thing to come out of this is probably an amapiano remix of Cele's "shut up", we had one for Julius "Revolutionary House" and "When People Zol"
The problem is that minister's don't like hearing the truth. God loves those who speak the truth and expose wrong doers .
Cele se gat man
The God of creation sees every man's inner heart. JUSTICE WILL BE SEEN AND DONE. Cele.....Call to Jesus Now to save you and forgive you for all and everything you have done to sadden Him for His Love for you. You can escape His loving justice. I pray you will call Him. He Loves you.
im proud to say...ive never voted anc in my life...the old people used to tell us long ago..if these comrades ever got to lead this country...they would destroy it..they were right
For anybody that don't appreciate Ian Cameron's approach and who and what he represents, I would dare say they don’t belong and more so are not deserving of their position in office. People need to see to understand and make sure that the inability to support Cameron's stance should not represent them in office. This is not the Banana Republic they continue to make us as people of South Africa, to be. Just go Bekhi, just go!
There are few good brave people! White man can die for people for truth! Bheki must step down with his friend Ramaphosa please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The truth hurts .
Congratulations to Ian for standing up to Cele who is a disgrace the way he conducts himself.
What colour do we need to be South African?
When are we going to harness the inspiration and commitment to build a a better South Africa? The greater population of South Africa wants change! Currently all political parties are failing us as South Africans! Lockdown on election daywould be an interesting concept.
Well done Mlungu, you a disgrace to the Police bunch of bullies
Safety security and comfort, we are so far from that. Make our country safe and you will see how this country will thrive
What a clown, he's a real showman 🤣🤣🤣
Ey Ian got Cele in the corner there 😅😅...at least someone stood up against that Failer
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
They work for us, not us for them
God is in control. People must understand that. We are not above him , and he is watching everything that's going on and we will be judged and time is nearing for the return of Jesus Christ.
Incompetence shouts when you show them the reality of their incompetence
Cele is not a staff qualified police officer . I don't think he even attended a security guard coarse .
My new Hero and I was in politics along time , and left because you are like a sheep you must go with the flow and if you are different you get kicked out. Policies over promises. Damn politicians.
But Malema is constantly using the word "nonsense", why is the word so triggering when this man is using it? And he is just talking facts!
Cele should take responsibility and accountability in his job.
Instead, he lashed out because his incompetence was challenged. His a text book example of the Dunning-Kruger effect viz. incompetent people are too incompetent to realize their own incompetence, or to put it bluntly; stupid people are too stupid to realize their own stupidity.
As Schopenhauer once said; truth passes through three levels. First it's denied, then it's violently opposed, and finally its accepted. Cele's current level of truth is painfully obvious!
Cele has shown his true colors, it is no surprise that law and order in SA is in crisis.
That minister has forgotten his place!
"He is a public servant not the other way around"
U don't tell your boss to shut up!, Bheki works for us the Public
Whats wrong with gardeners and cleaners?
They all over the world?
Imagine how gardens would look like with no gardeners?
These are the very jobs our poor unemployed ppl are fighting for
Who can listen to this cele nonsense anyway. Ian was right most of us South African don't tolerate this cele nonsense anymore.
I commend you Ian Cameron for standing your ground PROUD OF YOU BROTHER 👍
Kudos to you Mr Cameron. 💐👌🏼 Thank you 🙏🏼 for doing a superb job in assisting the communities in the Western Cape.
You did nothing wrong by speaking out and telling the truth. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Loving you and your spirit. ❣️ Keep up doing the awesome work you and ACTION SOCIETY are doing.
Lisa you would be surprised the day you learn that the majority of the white people are not racist. The thing is that an entire ethnic group are being "hated" by people of the past.
But I believe we will be able to overcome all and stand up united regardless, sex, and race
Sana needs to stand together in removing Bheki Cele actually the Anc as a whole.. 2024 is way 2 far!
Bheki Cele is to old to be in a leadership position, his way of thinking is out of date it is true he is disconnected from reality. Maybe he still thinks he is fighting against the Apartheid regime with his garden boy comment. We need leadership from the modern era these pensioners in parliament need to retire. The depressing part is that the ANC is now actively generating African poverty. Eastern Cape schools does not have proper toilets since 1994. Every state owned enterprise have been looted and yet Bheki Cele is shouting shut up. African communities living in sewage.
Then ANC mention Apartheid every time a difficult question comes up, the question that should be asked is their any difference between the Apartheid government and the current one in power?
Bheke: CHEEEAAAATUUUP MAN!! CHEEAATUUUP .....
Would not expect anything different from the hat man. He is a disgrace as a human being!
Save South Africa 🇿🇦
And then they blame the former government for locking this fool up in jail...unbelievable.
Wish there were more Ian Camerons talking to the "do nothing" politicians here in the USA
Tick tok, tick tok, tick tok..... ANC your time is up. You failed the people and you filled up your pockets. The gravy train is going off the rail.
What an embarrassment Bheki is....
The world is laughing at us. Crazy how they can be in power.
Bongs, mybe is about time to school Mr Cele what is walk the talk v/s being everywhere anytime you wish to!! I wonder who's preparing reports for him....Clearly!#
People's Power is more Powerful than People in power.