The Before Trilogy- How to Have a Conversation
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''The music's there, we're just working on the lyrics.'' - Ethan Hawke, on the collaborative process of writing and rehearsing The Before Trilogy.
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This is my star wars.
Michael Alvarez ❤️💯💯
It will be fascinating to see them in future, because i'm sure they will (re)appear in some form.
Michael Alvarez same here dude
@@fluffyclouds555 is there a confirmed 4th movie release?
Justin Pacinabao I don’t think so. I haven’t heard anyway. I’m not sure where they would continue the storyline but we’re nearing the 9 year mark pretty soon
Man, Before Sunrise opened my mind up to an entirely new type of film. Like this video said, one where dialogue is the weightiest element. I often find myself wanting more movies like that. They're hard to find.
@@sofiaflores203 ehh that film is pretty bad everything feels forced compared to the Before trilogy
Watch the movie "the man from earth"
@@chinmaybandishthi5193 that ones a great shout. My Dinner with Andre and Metropolitan are almost entirely dialogue driven too.
@@benzo9059 thanks, will surely watch them
@@chinmaybandishthi5193 My Dinner with Andre is a must-watch, if you (rightfully so) loved the Before Trilogy you'll have a blast with that movie too.
The Before Trilogy is my favorite Trilogy. I hope to get the criterion copy at some point so I can watch all the bonus stuff.
Before The Credits .
i have the criterion copy of before sunrise
@@hebaashmawy4035 what is the bonus stuff??
Daydream delusion
Limousine Eyelash
Oh, baby with your pretty face
Drop a tear in my wineglass
Look at those big eyes
See what you mean to me
Sweet cakes and milkshakes
I am a delusion angel
I am a fantasy parade
I want you to know what I think
Don’t want you to guess anymore
You have no idea where I came from
We have no idea where we’re going
Lodged in life
Like two branches in a river
Flowing downstream
Caught in the current
I’ll carry you. You’ll carry me
That’s how it could be
Don’t you know me?
Don’t you know me by now?
Andre Von Joan omg beautiful! ❤
Loved the poem
You know he wrote it but he probably just plugs that word in
Jesse : he wrote it before and just put the word (milkshake) on it.
😭♥️
A difference that can't be dismissed between the before trilogy and la la land (and plenty of other films with similar dialogue) is time and focus. This trilogy is built around dialogue, those scenes are far longer and given most weight, while for example la la land doesn't have time for that, because the character interaction is through colour, music and dance, that is given most importance in that film. Great essay, by the way!
_The Lord of the Rings_ was my favorite film trilogy for over a decade. Then, _The Before Trilogy_ arrived to my eyes and usurped perfection, as if that was even possible.
But it did it. Effortlessly.
Except it wasn't effortless at all. It took tremendous effort. It only appears that way. That's the point and magic :)
One of the things that impressed me most about Boyhood was the natural dialogue. Not too surprised then, but still thrilled, to find out that more of Linklater's work has such excellent dialogue.
The before trilogy really hammered the nail in Richard Linklater being my favorite filmmaker. His movies are so brilliantly simple and relatable. Especially Boyhood which made my cry because it made me so nostalgic and hopeful and sad at the same time. It’s almost indescribable the kind of love I have for his films
So, Nerdwriter just did a video about almost the exact same concept, but I will say, I thought your presentation and structure was much better in comparison. PLEASE keep up the great work!
yeah this is great thank you. same themes as nerdwiters, but a way different perspective on how to achieve "realistic" dialogue in film.
Nerdwriter is an idiot
This is why i thought i watched this same concept before
Richard Linklater also directed an animated movie called Waking Life that has very interesting conversations.
One of which is between Jesse and Celine too!
Yeah that was a fun little treat. :P
He also made Tape
"Animated"
Rotoscoping is a form of animation. There isn't any need for quotes.
This trilogy changed my life., especially after i saw Before Sunset.
how did it change your life?
It's hard to imagine a film analysis done better than this. Insightful, artistic, and a pleasure to view
I watched all three in theaters when they first came out!
I envy you
How old were you
@@VC-ps2vm lmao
Jesus you are so lucky to have that great moment in your life.
@@VC-ps2vm I'm at age 42 now. I saw BEFORE SUNRISE in theaters when I was age 14. And BEFORE SUNSET at age 24 and BEFORE MIDNIGHT at age 33. I'm old!
My favorite Romance of all times
I love these movies. No more to say. They are perfect movies for me.
I hope we get another instalment in 2022 tbh!
Waiting
I don’t know dude, I hope so but it doesn’t seem likely
This trilogy should become a quartet.
WOW! What a concept...I think I agree, I LOVED Sunrise and thought Sunset was as masterful and perfect as a sequel can be. Midnight was good but it didn't do for me what the first 2 did. A fourth, perhaps 10 years from now, if done well, would be watched for the next 250 years!
I read recently that conversations on a fourth film began recently, specifically Hawke calling up Linklater and asking how he thinks Jesse and Celine are getting through quarantine
@@ianyanks23 fucking hell that's cliche
@@StephenPaulTroup 3rd is my favourite. I loved it. Especially the first half and table debate .
We missed the dead line
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I always thought, that it should have been only one movie. Before Sunrise perfectly encapsulated the bittersweetness of human relations in my opinion. The fact that two people can meet, form a bond, and then lose it just as fast as they created it, was always so fascinating to me. The fact that they meet again, kind of spoils the that in my eyes. Life's full of people you bond with but never meet again, and I thought the real-ness of both of them accepting, although being hopeful of course, that they're not going to spend the rest of their life together, and that life moves on, whether they're together or not, strangely beautiful. Accepting the end is after all, one of the hardest parts of being human.
the only one i didn't fully like was midnight. i felt it made it seem like infidelity was just something natural. can it happen and people can survive it? of course. i do think that as humans monogamy is not something everyone or even most people are bound to. but the lost of trust, the bitterness and lack of hearing each other on both sides makes me feel it is not as healthy as a relationship as it once were.
@@ninaportoc agreed
I can understand your perspective but I'd also like to add a different perspective: when we meet a person, there is often a serendipitous meet-again moment that happens; I think the trilogy did an amazing job at expanding on that and how it isn't always laced with only joy in the way fairytales make them out to be.
Since Every frame a painting is official ended u r the most creative and in depth movie analysis on RUclips.
I'd argue Channel Criswell is but damn is a tough decision
Yeah I agree, nerdwriter used to be at the top for me but he’s been kinda slacking lately
Yeah I used to be so interested in the way he talked about art but now he seems like the formula is working against him, although I did enjoy the Noah baumbach video
What is wrong with you? Did you have to word it like that,
Hot take: Chanel Criswell's videos are way too long, lack structure, and he largely just talks himself in circles.
When I’m making a film I always welcome ideas, collaboration, opinions. They tend to turn out better than otherwise. I like the idea of writing what needs to happen and let the actors and actresses say it the way that feels natural. Great video Andrew.
I had forgotten about these! The trilogy is such a great exploration of character and conversation. Time to re-watch them!
Dude, now that Every Frame has ended, I beg you: please, don't leave us! kkkkkk
Excelent work
everyframe has officially ended?
Yes. Tony Zhou and Taylor Ramos wrote a text ending the series officially
medium.com/@tonyszhou/postmortem-1b338537fabc
They will only stay until they no longer need you...
Lucas Ferreira thaat sucks. I didnt know. Lucky i gues then that i always thought this guy sounds very similar to the every frame guy
How truly sad that films like these are never made. To me the best trilogy ever❤❤❤
The 3 best love movies I've ever seen. Great job.
WHAT IS THAT BOX SET??? I WANNNNAAAA
Criterion put it out on blu ray in that box set in 2017
I’m might be writing my thesis on this exact subject, what crazy timing haha
just copy it word for word. Im sure he won't mind.
A brilliant trilogy. The question is, will they continue and should they? Where do they go from here? A move to the States seems like a real possibility. Or should we just be free to imagine their future relationship any way we want and leave it at that?
These movies are not even movies anymore. They go beyond.
Loved the way you edited this piece. It’s the first time i’ve seen something edited like this and that was enjoyable.
These are special films,
I hope they continue over the decades to come. ❤
wanted to add my astrology geekiness to this but i found it interesting that ethan hawke is a aquarius moon and julie delpy is a gemini moon. both air signs. air signs thrive on stimulating conversations so them playing the actors was sooo perfect. they bounce off one another easily
Drop your phone. Let's have a conversation.
Dropped my phone. Am replying on a cracked screen phone. What Chu wanna talk about before my phone dies forever?
@@wipmegrandma8780 I love this 😆
I'm no expert and I genuinely love "The Before Trilogy"
I love how you actually printed out your script and placed at the start for a simple easter egg.
There is in art in conversation and it’s so sad that this current generation and future generations don’t and won’t appreciate what that really means.
Ok boomer
Ok boomer
I dunno Ron, don’t count us out. Granted, I definitely see what you mean. I’m a young man and a lot of my cohorts are, indeed, socially stifled by our ever-expanding world of screens and technology. However, I think you’d be surprised by just how many of us long for true connectedness and appreciate a substantive and meaningful conversation.
@@the_creed7969 that's so true. Technology has become way too essential for me but when I want to make new close friends or have a partner, I want someone with whom I can have endless conversations with, without getting bored. I only get close to people who won't be on their phones while we are together. And that's why it's hard for me to be close to someone these days
I love the format you've developed for your videos, really makes you stand out.
perfect timing just finished watched all of linklaters filmography. I think a lot of this applies to most of his films such as Waking Life or Slacker
First Like Stories of Old, and how you!? So glad to see this trilogy gettin some much-deserved love.
Also great video. I do some freelance writing here and there, so this sort of thing is super interesting to watch, and your style is really clear.
Broke my damn heart when Jesse said he cheated. If there’s a fourth movie I think it should be then as friends after they’ve been divorced for a while
It’s interesting because I believe Jesse felt offended when Celine said that, Jesse was the one who write the book, the one who lost the flight, he stay in France with her, after all, have an affair to me seems something unlikely.
Is possible too imaging Jesse cheating on her, but the way was put on screen leave the interpretation to the viewer, like I said, in my opinion I like to believe he didn’t cheat her
@@erwinvarelanunez2371 It was confirmed he cheated it wasn’t left up to the imagination. He cheated when he went to his book tour in the USA
@@rickjamesdos2239 fuck, cry in spanish :'c
You are honestly one of the best film analysis channels I have come across. Since you talked about this trilogy, do you have any thoughts on Whit Stillman's trilogy? If you haven't seen them, you should really check them out! His trilogy also focuses on dialogue, with a different sort of temperament, but it shares equal importance.
your channel is a true gem, dont stop!
The before trilogy is pure art
My favorite trilogy! I have them all on DVD . . . BUT I had to have that Criterion edition, so I just ordered it. I hope it's worth it. I'm sure it is! 😀
We are all "Star Dust"....loved all of these films ! Peace
They should make a fourth one in 2022 when they’re 50 since 9 years will have passed since the last one.
I continue to be so amazed by your videos. Everytime I watch them I just feel re-inspired and I know that what I truly want to work with is movies!
i hope you had a great week man, enjoy the holidays, this video's good enough to be enjoyed till new year!
stuck on loop
Thank you! Always a treat to see your new videos on my feed!!
I absolutely love Before Sunrise and Before Sunset, but I was left majorly disappointed with Before Midnight. I love the naturalism of the whole trilogy, but I think witnessing the breakdown of their relationship in Before Midnight really upset me. It made me confront the reality of what time can do to relationships. I think perhaps I should give it a second chance.
yeah it's so sad that Celine turned out to be such a bitch in the end.
I think that’s a little subjective
Relationships sometimes end. Life happens, dude.
Their relationship didn't end in Before Midnight. It showed them strugling with serious problems that people have (career problems, custody battles...). In the end they decide to stay together. Jesse tells her "this is true love", and it is. It's not a perfect, careless life, it's staying together and loving each other even when you don't LIKE each other all the time.
What I really didn't like was so focused on sex, not just Jesse and Celine, but the other characters as well. It was childish and annoying.
Shure, getting cheated on by your true love while you take care of the kids is just SO much fun!!
I was working at Blockbuster when Sunset was about to come out on video. One of my coworkers says how much he's looking forward to it. I've never heard of Before Sunrise so he tells me I need to watch it. I take a copy home and twenty years later I still send him a message on Facebook every now and then thanking him for recommending that movie to me. I still don't think there's a movie couple with better chemistry than Hawke and Delpy. I'm legitimately surprised that they never dated.
Love linklater favourite trilogy of all time
I hope you do Wong Kar Wai's "Love" Trilogy (Days of Being Wild, In The Mood For Love, 2046). I consider it HK's answer to the Before Trilogy. =)
These movies are so beautiful
What a beautiful video you made for analysis of beautiful film!
The absolute master of this film approach is John Cassavettes
Love the video but my main question is where can I get that sweet box set you guys have??
I wanna know too
it’s a Criterion set! search it up on the Criterion Collection website.
Another great video! Thank's for your hard work on these!
That criterion aesthetic tho!!!
Nice editing
My favorite movies of all time! That's art! That's cinema!
I always comeback to these movies. Way better than action packed.
what a coincidence i just finished these
guess what i watched the last one first
it worked in the end i ended up watching them all this year
After the death of Every Frame a Painting, I am more appreciative of this channel than ever :)
Love this trilogy, great video, thank you very much
great video and editing!
It works, really well, as long as you observe and enjoy and try to distance yourself. Don't make it part of your own experiences. Maybe there is a moment. Leave it on the screen.
Plz don’t stop
Oy!! I have this set, and it’s lovely packaging. How about a little respect, horse foot!!
Terrific stuff man
Fantastic analysis!
it reminds me also of how jean luc godard "wrote" his films
I actually ran to my own criterion collection to look for the before trilogy, cause I thought you wrote the booklet... I don't know to be mad or in awe at how you pulled that off
Love this trilogy, great video! Just wondering, how do you get clips to use in your essays, is it just ripped from the bluray disc?
Omg i wanna that blu-ray😭😭
Richard Linklater is a genius.
this is so awesome!!!
The big question- if Linklater is to make another BEFORE film....what should be the title? Who ever gets the most likes, I’ll write send a letter to Richard with the results.
Before You Go, covering the themes of death that Celine was so focused on in the first film.
@@Cosmic_Cretin a bit too early tbh lol, they'd have to be in their 80s for that
Love the analysis - constructive feedback is to use music that is a bit more in tune with the trilogy.
Nerdwriter1 did a similar video a few days ago, but this is definitely a much better video. The Before Trilogy is a much better example of realistic dialogue and your presentation was much more creative and artistic. Now that Every Frame a Painting is over, you're my first channel to go to for film video essays.
One of the best!
they say dialogue shouldn´t be like a conversation but I think most dialogue should be more like a conversation than not
Really good video!
I still can't watch the first film, but the 2nd and 3rd are amazing.. need a 4th... Before Noon??
I ned that box set
Alexander Atienza ikr? It’s so pretty. Might buy it for myself for Christmas if I can find it on amazon lol
empty sky Thats 30 years worth of extras. Im surprised they made it after before midnight. Well If its not on amazon before trilogy fans are patient anyway :)
As an introvert, the trilogy kind of show how I'd imagine myself having a conversation with somebody. But in reality, it's just a disaster
Man don't stop making essays!
What I do Is I write the words on a different language. Then give the actors the meanings they have to convey or try to explain. And they come up with the lines.
Where can I find the CD or DVD of the film 📀?
School of Rock!
Mary and Max please.
Why is it interesting despite movie was going on two different places?
Linklater is interesting. Having worked in the same room I was surprised that he’s really a very quite dude when compared with his persona in interviews
Did they pay for the red wine 😁 ?
I wish I had the Blu-Ray box set, but it’s hard to find the region B version.
#Popularity
I don't like how rough you were with the Criterion.
Ever seen Christopher Guest's films?
What is the musics name playing behind?
This brings up an interesting dilemma. On one hand this style sounds natural and spontaneous and can really draw in the viewer but how much of the dialogue sticks after fade out?
Contrast that with the unnatural, unrealistic, sound byte style dialogue of something like Star Wars or The Matrix which remains in the mind like chorus lines of pop songs and end up being so frequently and easily quotable.
I enjoy Linklater’s frictionless dialogue but, with the exception of sections of Scanner Darkly, it to me is more ephemeral than the former examples.
Stylised, sound bytey dialogue seems to always be more memorable.
A predicament.
Thoughts?
Where can i buy this book?
Wait, this is sponsored by Squarespace and NOT criterion??