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Nice Job. I have made about 75 now these over the years. Built a bunch for our church. makes a huge difference in sound quality. I may try your method with the exposed wood. They look great. Thank you for sharing. I bet your room sounds amazing. I don't think most people know how critical proper room treatment is to consistently good mixes. CRITICAL!!
do you have a direct link to the insulation you use? the 16" rockwool seems to come in two different sizes 4 ft. x 3 in. x 16.25 in. and another in 4 ft. x 3 in. x 15.25 in. I would like to know exactly the one you use so that my insulation fits perfectly into the frame measurements you provided.
Just built mine and they're awesome. I did black on the wood to fit my studio vibe, but it worked like a charm. Love the way they look, and they were easy to make. Thanks for the tutorial!
dude great job! I absolutely love how these turned out! I have made more basic looking 2 by 4 panels before, but I am such a huge fan on having the wood frame on the outside! Great work
Hey Tano, thanks for the great guide to making panels. I like your design and I'm planning to follow it to make my own. I'm thinking of making the gobos with one side fabric and the other side...sort of a sound scattering panel - so I can experiment with different sounds when I'm recording. I might even go thicker than 6 inches for the gobos so I can stack them with less chance of them falling over. I was wondering - if you were making these again, would you follow the exact same design, or would you make any changes? Also, do you have any recommendations for types of fabric? I'd like to be able to pick some nice colors.
Look almost identical to how I made mine. I felt Pine was the most attractive wood and I used a Navy fabric from IKEA. Look real nice. Nice one man. Great minds.
Nice work. Only two suggestions. Buy some clamps to hold the pieces together while you are putting the screws in. Makes the work easier and more accurate. Also, I would probably use some wood glue in addition to the screws. But good work.
these are way thicker than the ones most people make. how much of a difference does that make? the cost is substantially higher in both lumber an insulation.
The thicker the panel, the lower frequencies it will absorb. I built these with the intention of putting them in the corners of the room as bass traps. 3” panels wouldn’t work as bass traps.
If you want this to look even better, avoid visible screws and joinery. Pickup some Tightbond II wood glue, and a $20 pocket-hole jig and you can place the screws on the inside of the frame. Pocketholes aren't strong enough to hold so they're really only used to keep the frame together while the glue dries. Then add a cross beam in the middle, any piece of scrap wood, you need this or the frame will bow on you over time. Once the frame is assembled, sand, pre-coat, stain with a rich finish and then a semi-glossy clear-coat. Shit will look like a million bucks. And then the biggest mistake we all make is using BLACK fabric, when you get a studio filled with these it's the ultimate light suck. It's not "vibey" or "moody" it's just dark and teenage-bedroom-y. My first panels were all black like these above and no matter how many lamps I added my studio could not be lit up. It just felt claustrophobic. The second set I made were with a medium-dark wood stain (Varathane "American Walnut"). and then an off-white acoustic fabric (Guilford of Maine - Anchorage: White) and the contrast is beautiful. Replacing my black panels with the white ones just completely opened up the room, feels way bigger and lamps actually have an effect. I can still keep it dim and moody but it's way nicer to work in -- and looks pro. There's a couple pics of the ceiling panels I built like this on my website, if anyone gives a shit. I also drilled 3" holes along the sides of the frames which helps with bass response and has the benefit of looking nice: www.commongroundarts.com/studio/
@Memer Dreamer I think stuffed with beans, packing peanuts would do someting since there's some density there -- paper? not so much. I'm not an acoustician but I've taken some lessons. The softer the insulation -- like pink fluffy, the deeper it needs to be. So a 5" deep trap with pink fluffy will be more effective than only 2". If you only have 2" to play with then go for a denser type of insulation, Roxul safe n sound. For my studio walls I did pink fluffy in all the walls, on top of 2" rockboard that sits against the walls -- there's pictures on my site. As for getting fancy with a jgsaw for your panel frames, yeah that could look really nice but holy shit would that take forever. I did 16 of these panels and just drilling all of the wholes + iron on veneer to cover the plywood edges took FOREVER.... mind you I was only able to do a little at a time so it was spread out over months to complete. I could probably do them all in 2 full days if I was able to focus.
@Memer Dreamer ya dude .. the store bought traps are astonishingly overpriced. a single layer of safe and sound in your walls would do you well for high and mid frequencies but the bass reflections will bounce right back to you. My room is sound proofed (room within a room) so the bass reflections were even more pronounced. Hence 30" deep corner traps with MDF floor to ceiling wave guides and multiple layers of insulation and then massive air gap in the corners.
for gobos should of put a hard back on them with something like masonite. Gobo are made to absorb on one side and reflect away on the other to keep other things from leaking in. Like when surrounding drums, to box in an amp for a session.
Hi, I’m just wondering if you wish you had put supports on the inside of the frame or even a crossbar at the halfway point to also support the insulation? Do you find the insulation sag or pushes on the fabric overtime?
gallon and pint paint stirrer sticks works well in place of card stock. As far as price- wood, fabric and insulation will cost about $170 if you're doing 1 insulation bag worth of 6" panels. This is definitely the cleaner look out of most panel DIY vids on RUclips
Hi. It looks like to the right, you have a first generation CAD E300. Nice and rare to see today. I am wondering how you like that microphone, what you use it for and on, and how it compares to, what looks like, your Neumann TLM 102?
Not sure if it's stated somewhere I am missing - but what did this end up costing you overall? And how many packs of Rockwool did you use? Seems like you must have gone through 4-5 packs plus all the wood & fabric - seems like a real investment in this case
Hi, do you find that the wood frames are wobbly at all without reinforcing them with corner brackets? These look great but most videos talk about rectangular frames of this style needing support to stay stable.
Great video Tano, I have a ramdon question, I can see you own a pair of DT770 250 ohms? I also own a pair , my question is , do you use a headphone amp to get a better sound quality or power? I use them with my uad Apollo twin but i find then too quiet for tracking and I can't find much information about headphones amps pair with audio interfaces, I will appreciate your help, thanks
Hey! Mine are actually 80 ohm. I’ve never tried the 250 ohm version, so I’m not sure. However, I do have the Audient Nero as my monitor controller which has a headphone amp built in. Seems to give out plenty of gain!
This is the best one yet! Thanks for posting. I will be following your plans (but only one layer, 3" thick for more coverage per pack of Rockwool in my 11' x 10' room). Do you have any issues with the insulation sagging after a while?
Amazing looking panels and great tutorial! I'm planing to make some bass traps that cover floor to ceiling and was wondering if you think it's better to make them in 2 separate panels or 1 big panel. Take care!
great tutorial and workmanship! Just one note on the sound of the video itself. It seemed to me that there is a very high volume jump between your narrative and background music (when you don't speak). Otherwise, very nice project!
Good video. The next best improvement you could do to your monitoring would be getting rid of that big desk. You will have a major shift in the imaging and low mid definition which has been getting masked by reflections and resonances from your desk.
Thanks! Good points. I’m aware of the reflections and resonances that the desk causes, but I’ve gotten used to it, and I love mixing with this setup. I might end up ditching it at some point...
@@TanoBrock Once you ditch the desk you will have a whole new connection with the sound coming from your speakers, becomes easier to mix also. Keep on with the great work.
Do you have an image of them up close before you will them with insulation? I’m trying to make the fabric taught but feel like it still has some wiggle to it but then I pull it further and it’s wayyyy too tight and pulling away from the sides. Sorry for the long comment. Just having a hard time and really want to get these right.
Great to finally find a video with exposed wood. Thank you! This was great. Why the card stock though? Couldnt you have stapled the fabric straight to the wood?
Card Stock helps have 90 edges, vs flimsy staples - the rockwell is pretty flimsy itself, so having the card stock gives it some stiffness to the material to keep it tight vs stapling directly to wood.
Hey! I simply stacked them on top of each other, and made those little blocks to secure them together. I drilled 2 holes in either side of each panel, pounded in some wooden pegs, and then drilled corresponding holes in the block piece.
Would you recommend using these for ceilings? I'm thinking the corners are stable enough to drill hooks into and use ceiling screw hooks to mount them.
You can make them slimmer and keep them a few inches away from the wall and that will double the aborbtion. Really good stuff though. Just more resourceful to do it with the slimmer build I feel. How do you like your recordings and mixes now? I'm sure it's a drastic improvement. I tell people it doesn't matter what gear you get, if it's not recorded in a well treated room then you are missing 80% of the quality (Not including performance).
Did you make any 3” thick panels or only 6”? If so or not, why? And how is the difference between the two? Seems like having all 6” thick panels would be a bit overkill.
Was the wood you used actually 6.0in wide or was it actually 5.5in, like most "1x6" lumber is? Just wondering if off the shelf 1x6 will work or if the insulation would stick out a bit. Sick build by the way
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These panels are ones of the best looking DIY panels I've seen so far.
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Completely agree
These are nice, these are the first panels that I've seen that didn't have the fabric around the outside. They look good man.
Yep, the wood covered isn't as nice as this. Love the trick with the cardboard bits!
Agree
the card stock idea is perfect, finally something new!
Yeah! pretty handy. I just made some more and actually used wood veneer tape. worked even better!
@@TanoBrock did you use the kind of wood veneer tape with “pre-glue” on it ? Or plain ?
Use 1000gsm card. Its real thick and gives a very sharp edge.
yo this is that moment youtube just hooks you up without asking. Thank you this has helped a lot
hey. I appreciate the thumbnail not being a closeup of a face with a dumb surprised look lmfao. looks amazing!
First time i seen your channel. #1. Don’t start off by telling me to subscribe before I see your content. Think about that. #2. Great content. I subscribed.
Love how they turned, one of the best locking DIY acoustic panels I've ever seen. Great video !!
Nice Job. I have made about 75 now these over the years. Built a bunch for our church. makes a huge difference in sound quality. I may try your method with the exposed wood. They look great. Thank you for sharing. I bet your room sounds amazing. I don't think most people know how critical proper room treatment is to consistently good mixes. CRITICAL!!
Wow this us unlike any other acoustic panel build ive seen! Nice job!
do you have a direct link to the insulation you use? the 16" rockwool seems to come in two different sizes 4 ft. x 3 in. x 16.25 in. and another in 4 ft. x 3 in. x 15.25 in. I would like to know exactly the one you use so that my insulation fits perfectly into the frame measurements you provided.
I did all of the fine sanding in the studio to ensure I got that fine particulate dust into the electronics.
Just built mine and they're awesome. I did black on the wood to fit my studio vibe, but it worked like a charm. Love the way they look, and they were easy to make. Thanks for the tutorial!
Awesome! Love to hear that :D
I've watched a lot of DIY panel builds and have built some myself. I've gotta say, these ones look awesome!
Thanks so much man! Glad you like the look of them :)
by far the best looking ones ive seen. nice work m8
Clever design, I like the exposed wood. Was planning to make 'speaker grills' to achieve it. Thank you for sharing.
Wow, that's an impressive studio space! Great video man
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dude great job! I absolutely love how these turned out! I have made more basic looking 2 by 4 panels before, but I am such a huge fan on having the wood frame on the outside! Great work
hey buddy I tried your technique with the card stock (my girlfriend had some!) and left the frame exposed this time, nice! I like it! big up!!
My feet are itching watching you work with that rockwool with no shoes on. You’re brave lol
BEST ONE YET SUPER DOPE !!!
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THAT IS JUST AMAZING BRO! i'M building my first one now. One layer.
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Love this. Nice choice with the rockwhool
Best video so far
Just made 1 out of 3 so far! I even went in with a stain to darken up the wood. I hope it helps overall! Great video.
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That was so Helpful Man Thanks a lot!
dope music, sick that they slam so hard bruh
10 minutes of sanding. Awesome.
Love the content! I've also made my own acoustic panels and made a video about it. I love those things!
Thanks so much! Yeah they're very useful indeed!
Hey Tano, thanks for the great guide to making panels. I like your design and I'm planning to follow it to make my own. I'm thinking of making the gobos with one side fabric and the other side...sort of a sound scattering panel - so I can experiment with different sounds when I'm recording. I might even go thicker than 6 inches for the gobos so I can stack them with less chance of them falling over. I was wondering - if you were making these again, would you follow the exact same design, or would you make any changes? Also, do you have any recommendations for types of fabric? I'd like to be able to pick some nice colors.
Look almost identical to how I made mine. I felt Pine was the most attractive wood and I used a Navy fabric from IKEA. Look real nice. Nice one man. Great minds.
Very creative and right no the money !!
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Just finished building 8 of these using your guide, and they turned out AWESOME. Thanks so much!
Well done, mr. !
Great tutorial! What tipe of material did you use, and and with what density?
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This is great! Good job with awesome results :) I've seen many DIY videos on this subject, and I have so say that these panels is the winner so far :)
Great job!! What kind of fabric did you put in front?
I love the build and great job with the camera work, very well explained. Maybe switch it up with the music next time?
hi , thanks for the video , can I ask what size of screw and pilot drill would be use so no the wood to slit ,,thanks
Beautiful panels!! Thanks for the tutorial
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Nice work. Only two suggestions. Buy some clamps to hold the pieces together while you are putting the screws in. Makes the work easier and more accurate. Also, I would probably use some wood glue in addition to the screws. But good work.
these are way thicker than the ones most people make. how much of a difference does that make? the cost is substantially higher in both lumber an insulation.
The thicker the panel, the lower frequencies it will absorb. I built these with the intention of putting them in the corners of the room as bass traps. 3” panels wouldn’t work as bass traps.
thank you for share.
Great build looks good 👍
Great job! I bet you're liking how your low end sounds Huh✊🏽Thanks for sharing
Yesss low end sounds so much better with these 6-inch panels!!
If you want this to look even better, avoid visible screws and joinery. Pickup some Tightbond II wood glue, and a $20 pocket-hole jig and you can place the screws on the inside of the frame. Pocketholes aren't strong enough to hold so they're really only used to keep the frame together while the glue dries. Then add a cross beam in the middle, any piece of scrap wood, you need this or the frame will bow on you over time. Once the frame is assembled, sand, pre-coat, stain with a rich finish and then a semi-glossy clear-coat. Shit will look like a million bucks.
And then the biggest mistake we all make is using BLACK fabric, when you get a studio filled with these it's the ultimate light suck. It's not "vibey" or "moody" it's just dark and teenage-bedroom-y. My first panels were all black like these above and no matter how many lamps I added my studio could not be lit up. It just felt claustrophobic.
The second set I made were with a medium-dark wood stain (Varathane "American Walnut"). and then an off-white acoustic fabric (Guilford of Maine - Anchorage: White) and the contrast is beautiful. Replacing my black panels with the white ones just completely opened up the room, feels way bigger and lamps actually have an effect. I can still keep it dim and moody but it's way nicer to work in -- and looks pro.
There's a couple pics of the ceiling panels I built like this on my website, if anyone gives a shit. I also drilled 3" holes along the sides of the frames which helps with bass response and has the benefit of looking nice: www.commongroundarts.com/studio/
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@Memer Dreamer I think stuffed with beans, packing peanuts would do someting since there's some density there -- paper? not so much. I'm not an acoustician but I've taken some lessons. The softer the insulation -- like pink fluffy, the deeper it needs to be. So a 5" deep trap with pink fluffy will be more effective than only 2". If you only have 2" to play with then go for a denser type of insulation, Roxul safe n sound. For my studio walls I did pink fluffy in all the walls, on top of 2" rockboard that sits against the walls -- there's pictures on my site.
As for getting fancy with a jgsaw for your panel frames, yeah that could look really nice but holy shit would that take forever. I did 16 of these panels and just drilling all of the wholes + iron on veneer to cover the plywood edges took FOREVER.... mind you I was only able to do a little at a time so it was spread out over months to complete. I could probably do them all in 2 full days if I was able to focus.
@Memer Dreamer ya dude .. the store bought traps are astonishingly overpriced. a single layer of safe and sound in your walls would do you well for high and mid frequencies but the bass reflections will bounce right back to you.
My room is sound proofed (room within a room) so the bass reflections were even more pronounced. Hence 30" deep corner traps with MDF floor to ceiling wave guides and multiple layers of insulation and then massive air gap in the corners.
Incredible feedback! Did you cover both sides with white fabric? If not what did you put on backside?
You're right!
Great video!!
But what is “card stock”?
for gobos should of put a hard back on them with something like masonite. Gobo are made to absorb on one side and reflect away on the other to keep other things from leaking in. Like when surrounding drums, to box in an amp for a session.
Good job
Hi, I’m just wondering if you wish you had put supports on the inside of the frame or even a crossbar at the halfway point to also support the insulation? Do you find the insulation sag or pushes on the fabric overtime?
Hey nice looking panels. Where or in what store did you buy the Sta-Green ultimate weed barrier? Thank you.
Nice! Curious; do the bass traps work as well as the big triangle ones from GIK, etc. ?
gallon and pint paint stirrer sticks works well in place of card stock. As far as price- wood, fabric and insulation will cost about $170 if you're doing 1 insulation bag worth of 6" panels. This is definitely the cleaner look out of most panel DIY vids on RUclips
Good stuff man! Very similar to the gobos I made!
Hi. It looks like to the right, you have a first generation CAD E300. Nice and rare to see today. I am wondering how you like that microphone, what you use it for and on, and how it compares to, what looks like, your Neumann TLM 102?
Great looking panels thx for sharing.
You find double layers is good for high and mid frequencies. What about for your bass traps. Thx.
Dam. Looks pretty. 🔥
Good work 💯
Thanks!!
Not sure if it's stated somewhere I am missing - but what did this end up costing you overall? And how many packs of Rockwool did you use? Seems like you must have gone through 4-5 packs plus all the wood & fabric - seems like a real investment in this case
Yeah from it looks like he spent 200- 300 on insulation
Looks great but how do you know if porous materials absorb actual low end frequencies?
Wow. Now I wish I were handy at all, if I find someone who is I'll come back to this!
Haha it’s not so hard! Give it a try!
Tano Brock haha maybe I will! Just wondering re: the visible wooden frames, is that just for aesthetics or another reason?
Just aesthetic! You can put that fabric over the wood if you prefer that look-that’s actually much easier!
Cool thanks!
Hi, do you find that the wood frames are wobbly at all without reinforcing them with corner brackets? These look great but most videos talk about rectangular frames of this style needing support to stay stable.
I appreciate you so much, thank you for the ideas and AWESOME content, you gave me inspiration to assemble my own panels 👌🏾🔥
Great video Tano, I have a ramdon question, I can see you own a pair of DT770 250 ohms? I also own a pair , my question is , do you use a headphone amp to get a better sound quality or power? I use them with my uad Apollo twin but i find then too quiet for tracking and I can't find much information about headphones amps pair with audio interfaces, I will appreciate your help, thanks
Hey! Mine are actually 80 ohm. I’ve never tried the 250 ohm version, so I’m not sure. However, I do have the Audient Nero as my monitor controller which has a headphone amp built in. Seems to give out plenty of gain!
@@TanoBrock thanks so much for the reply 🙌🏼
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What brand of rockwool is it?
Thanks alot!! One question, what 2 fabrics are you using??
This is the best one yet! Thanks for posting. I will be following your plans (but only one layer, 3" thick for more coverage per pack of Rockwool in my 11' x 10' room). Do you have any issues with the insulation sagging after a while?
Maaaan what's up 😊 hope you are fine dear . Perfect and useful 👌
I had a very unpleasant experience with glass wool, how your skin and nose react to this rock wool? Is it better to use the recycled cotton?
Excellent video
Love your channel :)
Aw thank you! So glad you like it. Lots more videos coming soon!
I have a question to you sir. Do you use your panels as iso booth in a square formation? What is you iso booth solution? If any.
Amazing looking panels and great tutorial! I'm planing to make some bass traps that cover floor to ceiling and was wondering if you think it's better to make them in 2 separate panels or 1 big panel. Take care!
Nice!! 🔥
Good job. What do you guys think will the microscopic fibers manage to go out of the frame after some time due to the vibrations of the room?
When stacking the bass traps is there any sort of base or stand going on, or is the stack just leaning into the corner?
great tutorial and workmanship! Just one note on the sound of the video itself. It seemed to me that there is a very high volume jump between your narrative and background music (when you don't speak). Otherwise, very nice project!
Good video. The next best improvement you could do to your monitoring would be getting rid of that big desk. You will have a major shift in the imaging and low mid definition which has been getting masked by reflections and resonances from your desk.
Thanks! Good points. I’m aware of the reflections and resonances that the desk causes, but I’ve gotten used to it, and I love mixing with this setup. I might end up ditching it at some point...
@@TanoBrock Once you ditch the desk you will have a whole new connection with the sound coming from your speakers, becomes easier to mix also. Keep on with the great work.
Great channel buddy!
Go on! Creative success)
I will do the same for myself)
Do you have an image of them up close before you will them with insulation? I’m trying to make the fabric taught but feel like it still has some wiggle to it but then I pull it further and it’s wayyyy too tight and pulling away from the sides. Sorry for the long comment. Just having a hard time and really want to get these right.
Nice job.
Great to finally find a video with exposed wood. Thank you! This was great. Why the card stock though? Couldnt you have stapled the fabric straight to the wood?
Card Stock helps have 90 edges, vs flimsy staples - the rockwell is pretty flimsy itself, so having the card stock gives it some stiffness to the material to keep it tight vs stapling directly to wood.
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What is card stock?
can you go into more detail as to how to stacked the bass traps?
Hey! I simply stacked them on top of each other, and made those little blocks to secure them together. I drilled 2 holes in either side of each panel, pounded in some wooden pegs, and then drilled corresponding holes in the block piece.
great job!! Where did you get your strips?
The paper strips? They’re just thick card stock from an art store.
good luck finding the Safe N Sound!
They sell it at Home Depot!
@@TanoBrock I think Owens Corning pressured them to stop selling it, not available in my area but the big Lowe's an hour away does have it.
I got mine at Lowe’s - here in the US. Lowe’s has tons of the safe n sound insulation
Did u happen to take sound samples before and after ?
Hey! I didn’t unfortunately, but I can assure you, it sounds much better in hear! I’m getting a much clearer and tighter bass out of my monitors.
Would you recommend using these for ceilings? I'm thinking the corners are stable enough to drill hooks into and use ceiling screw hooks to mount them.
wow, is that a saz (or baglama) @3:45 ?
haha good eye! It's actually a Greek Laouto :)
Hey Tano! Great vid. Made a couple of panels with this video and all went well. Just wondering, how are you mounting your panels to the wall?
what are the dimensions for cutting?
Awesome!
What was the total cost?
Should have sample vid, before and after
You can make them slimmer and keep them a few inches away from the wall and that will double the aborbtion.
Really good stuff though. Just more resourceful to do it with the slimmer build I feel.
How do you like your recordings and mixes now? I'm sure it's a drastic improvement. I tell people it doesn't matter what gear you get, if it's not recorded in a well treated room then you are missing 80% of the quality (Not including performance).
You’d do 3” deep?
What size screws did you use?
how much youll charge to make four of these and shipped
Nice!! Which type of fabric did you use?
I show it in the video, some basic, cheap weed-barrier fabric. Next time I built panels I'll use nicer fabric
What’s the weight per panel?
Did you make any 3” thick panels or only 6”? If so or not, why? And how is the difference between the two? Seems like having all 6” thick panels would be a bit overkill.
I did make some 3" as well! I have the 3" on my walls at first reflection points
Where can I get cardstock at? I don’t wanna end up buying regular paper lol
Just make sure whatever you get is think and strong! can't be too flimsy. Recently I used birch edge tape, worked really well
What is the name of the fabric you use for the back?
weed barrier fabric!
Was the wood you used actually 6.0in wide or was it actually 5.5in, like most "1x6" lumber is? Just wondering if off the shelf 1x6 will work or if the insulation would stick out a bit. Sick build by the way
I used standard 1x6 lumber, so yes 5.5"! works fine :)