American steam power in the UK! Chasing Dinosaurs Episode 1.
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
- Hello all you super people,
Today's video is something a little different, documenting a little adventure to the Churnet Valley Railway to see triple S160's!
A video featuring:
Lawrie - host and cameraman, overly excited for S160's,
Kindred - driver, overly excited for S160's,
Ben - making a rare appearance in front of the camera, and overly excited for S160's,
Shuttleworth - Making his first appearance on the channel, and overly excited for S160's
Kar, making the trip less of a sausage fest, and overly excited for S160's.
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Okay, please tell me I'm not the only one who wants a Lawrie Goes Loco episode on a USATC S160?
no I want to see a Lawrie Goes Loco episode too. It would be vary cool.
A mini "World War" series of videos talking about the locomotives that served both world wars would be fantastic!
I'll see what I can arrange!
Would dearly love a s160...
Your not the only one
I'm from phila that's balwin alco is amidwest bigboy factory Franklin institute has afailed balwin for aworking big boy you LL have to go to wwhyoming up roundhouse there are tours there but you have to be there. For cowboys days that's a
biggy wet your nappys for sure
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If I remember correctly, Lawrie loves Fire engines yes? Theres a whole museum dedicated to fire engines based in sheffield and is definitely worth a check out. And yes I know its not at all related to this video but still worth a mention !!
I know there a bus museum near Oxford ... My granddad and my dad are both bus drivers ( granddad is retired )
While we're on museums, the Commercial Vehicle museum in Leyland and the Tram (and other stuff) museum in Crich are worth visiting
These all sound like good suggestions!
Harry have you ever seen a trolly herse PTC had then the whole wake would go at once to the cemetery
THE SOUND!!!! Oh god I love the S160's especially when that whistle just ECHOES in the valley!! its just many many many eargasm's
Loved the video.. Liked the blend of people, trains and the adventure of chasing a train. I hope you do more of this.
Glad yo hear it!
People seemed to have enjoyed it, so yes, there will be more!
That filming with the trains reflection in the river is superb Lawrie! As is some of the other views.
Thank you very much! I was very pleased.
That was wonderful footage and the sounds were just wonderful and I must admit over many years of incidental train spotting I've never heard steam engines sound quite they did in the shot at about 15:40 which was just superb. 12 out of 10 indeed!
Thank you very much, they really did make a stunning noise working their way up!
That was excellent footage Laurie! Would definitely like to see more of it on the channel. Well done!
Thank you very much. The video has been popular, so we'll be doing it again!
Wow that was different, and really good, and those poor little 33's at the end looked like they were having a hard time pulling the whole train... great video :-)
Glad to hear you liked it!
It was quite a good length of train!
"I need to change my pants." You guys are a riot. Ben should get himself on camera more often.
We can make that happen!
Awesome! It's not often you get to see triple-headed anything on UK railways, let alone big American 2-8-0s.
And those American chime whistles sound out of place in the English countryside, but fantastic nevertheless!
Great video!
It's very rare to see something like this.
The whistles sounded incredible!
I dunno, I thought it was kinda haunting against the dreary backdrop. But in a good way.
Enjoyed that, marvelous footage of the S160s. I would certainly enjoy seeing similar videos in the future. :)
Wow! That is quite a sight indeed, the sound of all three of them in action!!! It's remarkable that so many S160s survive in operable condition, considering their intended lifespan could be reasonably measured in months. Clearly, these mighty workhorses were built to some pretty high standards for a "budget" dispensable steam locomotives!
Yes indeed, for a temporary locomotive they've done rather well!
The sound was magnificent!
Nice! Just had a ride behind 2253 "Omaha" at its new home on the Dartmouth Steam Railway- it's so cool!
It's a cracking bit of kit isn't it!
Peter Best's NGG16 was due to make a debut on the WHR sporting the same livery as Omaha this year, hope it goes ahead later this year. His S160 and Garratt will be equally stunning I reckon.
Oh, these ain’t giants
Come over here to the USA and see Big Boy 4014
the UK has a more restrictive loading gauge. the track gauge is the same standard guage but the locomotive itself is smaller, not as wide or tall. here in the UK running double stacked containers on rail freight isn't possible outside of HS1, as that's built to continental loading guage.
@@tech4pros1 of course you gave us the coolest UK steam locomotives, City of Truro and flying Scotsman
I've mentioned the Big Boy in the comments of some of his other videos, I bet he's be completely speechless if he ever got to witness 4014 making steam. I wonder what all had to be adapted other than the couplers on the American locomotives, those were interesting, but you're right, they aren't as big as we make 'em. The Diesel-electric units that replaced the Big Boys are equally massive, though rather dull next to them.
@@davekauffman8727 I am partial to the f series diesels , I think they look really snazzy
@@davekauffman8727 DD40AX?
Nothing beats the fabulous wail of those whistles. It is very visceral and emotional. Australian steam locos have the same sound. Lovely video with the canal reflections too. A single frame would be worthy of a framed photo. Cheers.
Thank you very much!
They are really magnificent whistles.
You were 10 miles from the Foxfield Railway where we slog industrial locos up 3/4 mile at an average of 1 in 25 and steepest a 1 in 19. Now that's working em!
I love the Foxfield railway, the galas charging up the bank with a freight is just super.
I'd love to film there, particularly with the Dubs which is just fantastic.
I’m glad you did this video because I didn’t get to go to this event as my dad was taken ill the day before the event. So thank you so very much for this please do this style of thing again it was amazing fun to watch.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I hope he improves.
Glad you liked the video though!
Enough of you seemed to enjoy it, so we will repeat it!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels he’s slowly getting better. I look forward to the next time
never seen anyone more excited over the sound of a whistle than Lawrie ...great footage nice one
It did sound epic!
Glad you enjoyed it.
This is quality entertainment. Love to see the trains and old equipment.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! We had fun shooting it.
I was there! (Spent most of the day hanging out the rearmost carriage window about 6 feet from the chimney of the pushing engine)
Good talking to you on the tug on Monday, hopefully see you again Lawrie.
I’ve carried one of them black loco’s a few times on my truck they use it as the Santa express at Telford
Oh that's cool!
I've always fancied doing heavy haulage moving locomotives around.
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels I sent you the pick of the little Ruston on your face book page the other week if you saw it
Oh yes!
I love the CVR. One of their North Staffs Railway signalboxes used to be located about 250 metres from my home until it was dismantled & moved when my local line was lifted in 1974. The S160s gladdened my heart no end, it's superb to see them still slogging away despite their original austerity design envisaging only a short working life. But who the heck paints a BRCW Type 3 in pseudo-RES red?! Clearly there was a free bar at that meeting... As always, thanks for sharing and brightening-up an otherwise dull working weekday :-)
It's a really magnificent railway. I'm a big fan.
I love it when people go to that much effort to save something.
The s160s really did put up quite the show!
Nice video of the USA S-160's, as the sound of just one are great but three are fantastic. 2253 Omaha was brought back to fully working steam order on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway last year.
Yeah, I'd been following it's overhaul with interest.
Three together sounded mega!
At least 12/10!!
But only steam fans will understand this video. Triple headed S160's send more of a shiver down my spine than any car ever could... 😍
Ditto. It was amazing.
I love the S160s. A 2-8-0 that sounds a lot bigger than it is. I wish I could have crossed the pond to see this
One just like the 3 in this video is at the Great Smokey Mountain Ry. The number is 1702.
Roy Reynolds that is true but it’s not the same as seeing it in its original us army “uniform”
There is 'Big Jim' at the KWVR which wears the transport corps grey, and looks stunning!
They are super - quite large too by our standards!
I know something you might enjoy, although it would be a bit of an bigger trip:
In the summer you could come to Germany (pretty close to the Belgian border) and watch the ADAC (German AAA) Eifel Rallye where they Rallye original, iconic rallye cars or perfect replicas of them.
But that's not all: it's basically directly next to the Nürburgring so you could take a car around there. Additionally there are at least two heritage railroads here. One directly where the Rally and another one a bit further. They don't run steam, but pretty old diesel rail buses. Even if they don't have service on this weekend you could maybe visit their workshop. There they have a steam engine (that's currently disassembled for boiler maintenance I think) and many other odd trains.
And if all that still isn't enough: they turned many of the old railways into recreational bicycle paths. They are very scenic and decorated with old locomotives, carts and many historical informations (those bords are also in English).
So maybe that would be something worth a trip. Maybe a successor to lemmons? Drive the cars there, take them around the Nordschleife and watch the Rallye or something like that.
Ps: There is also a pretty big model railway shop and exposition. There they also have an old loco parked outside. It's rotting but cool to look at.
Pps: Usually a weekish before the Rallye there is also an event where they race off-road lorries through quarries. I think it's Euro truck trial or something. But I'm not completely sure about that.
This sounds awesome!
Very much my cup of tea!
I very much enjoyed this. Thanks, Lawrie.
You're most welcome, glad that you did!
Thanks for sharing your adventures with us. Really enjoyed seeing the S160's , nice looking engines , love the sound of the whistles.
You're more than welcome! They're super engines. It was a great event to go to. The whistles are amazing!
15:39 A chime whistle, stack talk, connecting rod clank on a head-end engine, and classic black paint…but in the English countryside-it warms my heart.
I drove one of the class 33s there because my cousin volunteers on the CVR, first time driving a real train. I've got so many happy memories of the place, bit gutted i couldn't make it out there to see the 3 USA s160s
awesome. The Talyllyn railway runs past my workplace so I always get my daily dose of steam but how I wish I could see those monsters flying by.
Oh that must be fantastic. Talyllyn is a gorgeous railway.
Lawrie's natural habitat, rail fanning, no matter where, when, weather or whatever, if there is a steam locomotive, you bet he will be there one way or another lol
It certainly was before RUclips takes up all my time 😂
It was super to visit a railway again.
To be fair, seeing 3x S160s was awesome. Was there on the Saturday, so wonder if you were there the same day
Guess who forgot about that weekend, despite putting it in my diary! (also the CVR (staffs) being now my nearest preserved line, now having moved from Clare Suffolk, where I had been a volunteer on the other CVR (Hedingham) since 1979! You did add a wee smile on my face by the canal, a wee bit muddy. the narrow boats added to the scene as I moved onto a N/B (next project?). lol 👍
Oh that's a shame, it was very good fun. Are you going to volunteer at the Churnet?
I've always fancied going on a narrow boat.
@@lmm For the time being prob not, a few jobs to do on the boat first.
I followed the Big boy around eastern Kansas last November. Steam power is awesome to see in person! Great video! Beautiful countryside over there!
Oh wow! I really want to see her running. Amazing achievement!
Thanks for coming
I kept expecting a cop to pull up and say "You lot move along" followed by radio call "Central I have 4 blokes and a bird acting strange around the rail tracks"
There were quite a few people hanging about.
I've been asked to move my car before by the police when spotting.
I hardly ever see American locomotives with those iconic British red buffers!
It's really only these and the s100 Dock tanks that had them really. We didn't really get anything else American built on the standard guage.
Law the couplers were designed to handle the old rod and pin coupler plus the new stuff count granddad's fingers
Another excellent video with super comedic commentary. Well done.
Thank you very much! Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
@@lmm Loved all the videos I have watched. But my absolute favorites will be any that have to do with trains. Glad to see the fire truck running.
Thank you!
I'm very glad to see Jupiter going too!
good ol' american steam in action in the uk, now that's what I call a dream.
It really was very special!
The army can call those S160 all they want, but to me it looks like a 2-8-0 Consolidation :)
Consolidation is just a term for a 2 8 0.
The class, the type of these are S160's.
the answer to your question Lawrie is YES more plz great video
Super, glad you enjoyed it. More to come!
we got steam railway on the way to being a great place to play trains www.helstonrailway.co.uk/
They are proud and noble giants fantastic video as always keep up the fantastic work. Lot is love from Hannah
Thank you very much - they are indeed super things!
Lawrie I can say the same I love pop out headlights they’re just so fun! 😂
I love them 😂
What are you talking about mate?
That's a lovely day here. We Brits need drab, dreadful weather to survive!
Some people say there is this glowing sky ball that makes things warm. I call rubbish. I've never seen it, so it doesn't exist!
They let people in to Cheddleton yard at 7.00 am to see the locos being prepared. Wet and dark but very atmospheric. Well worth getting up at 4.00 am to get there. And I cabbed Omaha as a bonus. The CVR are getting another S160 to restore so they will have 3 S160 locos based at the railway.
Yeah I heard they were getting another one. I bet that would have been great to see! It was early enough for us to get out there 😂
Were they the American answer to wartime austerity steam locomotives? They look similar to the British WD 2-8-0 engines built by Robin Riddles. You can tell they're from the States because of the smoke-box. What is weird for an American engine, however, is having buffers, hook and chains rather than knuckles. Were they just converted for the visit?
I can see why the War Department commissioned these things from Lima and such, if they beat your car to the film locations quite a few times, they can beat Kriegsloks, Panzer IVs and so on.
Glad you're enjoying the way our locos sound, some excellent filming here! The red one is especially handsome.
They did very well. Not stopping at stations also helped 😂
They do sound mega. Wasn't a fan of 'Omaha' when I heard about it, but it looks superb!
@@lmm Initially I did find the Midland-ey red a little odd too, but by the end of the video it had really grown on me. I think it's a subconscious desire to see post-1890s American locomotives in colors besides black or grey. A friend of mine over here rode one of the domestic versions, and the different chimney makes the loco sound surprisingly different!
Oh, now I've just had an amusing thought; An S160 painted up in Southern Railway black, Bulleid font on one side, Southern Railway (of the US) on the other!
Now that certainly would be something different!
I love steam engines! Stationary, in locomotives, boats, lorries, whatever! And I'd love a go in a Sentinel S4, or a DG! :-)
Me too! Big fan of Sentinels too. Strange, but super things.
@@lmm A few years ago, I was talking to a friend whose family own a windmill. I mentioned a Sentinel, and he told me his dad had sold his S4 a month or so previous! I live less than a mile away, and I had no idea! :-O
I was gutted! :-O
Oh that's tragic!
@@lmm Sadly so! :-(
I would highly suggest a trip here to america for the UP BigBoy 4014 or UP 844 both are a sight to see!!
Those locomotives did sound amazing tho.
I really do hope to see them on my next trip out!
Your cars are lacking the space to carry those 5 people? You should have brought Jupiter and then all could've stretched their legs.
You guys are mad lads. Train spotting steam engines from a bridge. In the late 90's/really 00's they still pulled some regular cargo trains with steam engines and so my dad wanted to show my sister how they look from above. So they stood on a bridge above it while it crossed. I think I don't have to elaborate how that ended xD
Jupiter didn't work at the time, and would have bankrupted me taking her 😂
Oh where was that?
Yes that's a good idea 😂 😂
5:15
Normal people: chugging
Amercians: USA USA USA USA .
..... I can hear it... now I hear the steam engines chugging as USA USA.. whyy
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
lawrie i like to see it soon thank you & i really like that video
The S160 5197 was Telford Steam Railways Polar Express and I volunteer there, and I’ve fired the loco and it is Awesome! Lawrie definitely needs to try and review one.
I would absolutely love to. Super locomotive!
Double headed pusher service? That's rare the cams are going to be out today stay safe
We do lots of fun things for the sake of it!
What are you doiing to me LMM? I'm watching a trainspotters video and thoroughly enjoying it, life's full of surprises haha!
Be very careful Graeme W. The railway disease creeps up on you unexpectedly like malaria. Once you've caught it it never goes away. I got infected by Flying Scotsman at Tyseley in 1969 at 4...
Sometimes you can go for years without a relapse. You work on your cars and convince your self that you're cured of the steam bug. Then you get a whiff of coal smoke, or someone posts a video like this, and before you know it you get a complete relapse
@@robinforrest7680 Haha! I'm only 4 years behind you Robin and I'm already at a disadvantage because I live near Darlington and Shildon with their railways heritage. Was in Darlo twice this week and Shildon today so I'm going to have to move house 🤦♂️🤣
@@graemew7001 too late! Looks like you're already infected😳
@@robinforrest7680 Yeah, saves me a house move and it could be worse, I could be into the soaps......now that would be bad!! 😂
I do apologise, I didn't realise I was infectious!
Great sights and sounds
I agree!
Come to the better railway in Staffordshire, Foxfield, then you can complete the Ruston collection, we have a 205 hp de with a V6 Paxman engine
I would absolutely love to come to Foxfield for some filming.
Please drop us an email to try and arrange something.
It's cool seeing this train at work in New Zealand you can't see locomotives push at the rear of trains anymore because it's not allowed.
Oh really? That seems daft.
Something to do with continuing to put power down even though they can't see?
@@lmm My dad who drove trains said that it was due to a potential risk that the front will lose traction on a high gradient causing the rear locomotive to keep pushing and have the carriages buckle off the track.
That sounds unlikely to be honest. 😂
On holiday a few years back, I saw an American goods..err... freight train. Had 6 engines up front, 2 in the mid, and 2 in the rear
Those Whistles sound so much like are VR Kclass hear in Victoria 2-8-0s love the vid
I love the whistles! Glad you enjoyed it!
Omg lawrie your in a Ford 😮 finally come to the dark side
Not by choice 😂
There's several classic Ford's I'd love.
That was AWESOME!
Would love to see one of these locomotives I might have to visit the Churnet Valley Railway to see the one of them.
We are having a legendary lady at the Severn Valley Railway for the spring gala.
Yes I saw the Saint was going!
S160's are well worth seeing!
Great video! Nearly went but had more important things to do
That's a shame, it was an enjoyable event!
What ever happened to that Dodge fire engine you bought from the lad in the West Country? Did you scrap it?
If you have a look at the last What's Broken Now, you'll see that work is slowly taking place with her.
She'll get sorted.
Great to hear! I'll have a look at it now. Cheers Lawrie.
Nice job keeping her butt. In the camera while running. LOL
Stephen Brown you’re embarrassing yourself
This was not the intention.
you might have warned headphone users .. looked like a good day out
Sorry about that - hope your hearing has recovered!
It really was!
Yeah that is a very small engine Are those are small in the USA but still very awesome
3 Murican locos to pull that train - seemed a little like overkill, are the gradients that bad, or was it more of an event having them all together? Was nice seeing the Class 33s at the end, that's what they were, right?
It was an event having 3 together for the first time since the war. There is a long steep gradient on part of that line. There is a 4th currently running in the UK but not sure why that couldn't make it. Yes class 33's at the rear as the train was too long to allow the locos to run round at the end of the line
@@mattlander9119 cheers for clearing that up mate. Quite an event, slight shame about the 4th not showing but still a very interesting set-up!
I think 'Big Jim' was under repair. Would have been quite something 😂
Yes, just an event having them together, first time since the War really.
Yes they're 33's put on for extra weight!
They just need a rake of appropriately american-looking coaches to pull.
Early slab-sided Pullmans or GCR Barnum coaches could work.
Or many, many wagons for a wartime train!
How long till Lawrie get's behind the regulator of something of this size?
I'm trying my hardest! Would absolutely love to do an s160!
I am not a fan of American engines all those spark guards and cow catchers. But watching those was great. Yes love to see more steam engine adventures.
To be fair wild fire prevention trumped aesthetics, but to an American, British engines seem lacking in features (not to mention a terrifying coupling scheme). I shall agree I can always see more of Lawrie and steam power!
@@Halo1Buff ours here have spark guards you just can not see them they are hidden inside the chimney I think. Lawrie will know exactly where.
I don't think they've got spark arresters fitted in fairness.
I love them, they just scream raw power!
Denver and reo grand burned down the hole place last tear#$$$$$$$#$$$
you drove past what used to be an old pub on the way into Ashborne
Oh really? Lots of them about sadly.
Missing a cylinder?? Three was always the number to aspire to... and then the Triumph Trident turned up.....
I mean, really it's missing 5 😂
Was Big Jim meant to be a part of this gala?
I think it was discussed, but never happened
The Keighley And Worth Valley Railway have a big American locomotive.
EDIT: They call it "Big Jim"
Big Jim is super. I love the livery they have it in.
Was there, rode in train, very good.
Oh super! It was a fantastic day out!
The only thing beating....eeeerrrrrrmmmmm....let me rephrase that, the only getting close to the sound of a steam locomotive and whistle, is an inline or radial aircraft engine (yes Lawrie, I know that you're thinking Rolls Royce Merlin here), or an EMD 567, Alco 251 or a Deltic....
Mind you...."fancy a pint?" comes pretty close as well!
Oh well, it's the weekend, so on to the next LMM video....
They are good alternatives. Steam working hard is pretty good though.
Loved it Lawrie. If your interested in small saddle tank locos there one called Bon Accord that might interest you. Look her up on facebook
Glad you did!
I'm very aware of Bon Accord, I'd love to do something with her, but as yet I've heard nothing!
Law is that a Sherman hill?
Not quite
Isn't inclement weather normal for England?
Surely you should call one Clayton and the other Shuttleworth
1ltr eco BOOM!
😂 😂
Why do the poms have this obsession with running an engine on each end???
There wasn't space for all three to run around at either terminus apparently hence why they did the triple header at the end of the day so the class 33 diesels could haul the whole lot back as the last train.
It's easier to top and tail. Don't have to run round to take the train back.
Banking - pushing from behind up a climb is a totally prototypical behaviour though!
Americans do it on their goods and coal trains. Spread of power.
But for this it was just to run all three S160s as an event, and yeah, most stations don't have a turntable anymore, so the engine cannot turn round. So they run another in the rear.
Pause at 21:21 the white skin coloured blob on the first passenger window is me..
Welcome to fame and fortune on the Internet 😂 😂 😂
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels hmmm.. not really.. soon to be 13 me at 0:55 here: ruclips.net/video/4ataC-ds3tA/видео.html with the gingery hair..
loved this video :-)
Pleased to hear it!
👍👍👍
Thank you!
Bradnop is my homeland and I’m also a shareholder on the CVR
Driven many diesels on this line but living abroad it’s not often I get to see real trains
A fantastic thing to support!
How lucky! I'd love to do a review of one of the 33's there!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvel. Been at the helm of a 33 few times but a full day on Deltic was the dogs doodahs
@@johnedwards4274 oh I dream of a Deltic! You lucky so and so!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels one time chance with one other guy who had to leave mid day. Shut her down at 1900 from 0800. Think it was 55009
That's a good day!
do more steem love it
I'll do my best!
Shot at about 11:58 Muddy tow path check, wrong shoes check, leave in a rush check.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😀😀😀😀😀😋😀😀😀😁😁😁😀😀😀😁😀😀😀
Glad you approve!
Lmao s160s are medium sized at best in the USA. Catch any of the UP locomotives, Lima Berkshires, or SP 4449
I really would like to! I saw the Big Boy in Denver. That's quite the thing!
Law were they British or American made?
They're American!
12:28 looks like start of sad story of Henry from Thomas the tank engine original series
No it James
Oh really?
please please tell him to clean his car lol
I'll pass it on! 😂
Am I being too German about this or do at least two of those need their timing adjusted?
It's possible. We were too excited by the spectacle to notice!
I was on that train on sunday.
Oh super, how was it?
It was brilliant. Got plenty of footage for my friend, Mike Cave (owner of The Littledale Light Railway).
Good friend to have!
Your talking of the Porter's there rather 060 or 040 that's what we used for Thomas and the docks
Law balwin or alco?
Two Baldwins and a Lima
I'm sorry, I'm trying to wrap my head around the notion that anyone would consider an 80 ton locomotive "giant". I guess it's all in what you are used to. On the other hand the relatively human scale of British railroads is undoubtedly the major reason why the UK is like Disneyland for steam enthusiasts. No bunch of amateur enthusiasts, no matter how dedicated, is going to be able to restore and maintain a million pound behemoth like UP 4014.
It's pretty large by our standards. We like them.
We have so many railways and steam locos, it's absolutely fantastic.
I tend to disagree, I think a group could do it, the workmanship of some groups is incredible.
8:48 Froghall!?!? Canal porn there mate!
Pleased to hear you approve 😂
not america locos
Well. .. They kinda are.
Built in America. Exported to Europe for the War.
I'm not sure how that would make them not American.
You right Ryan cc but wait till you see Tomas with a mask owell sign of the times have a good and safe no roit day no I don't want my email
Someone hack my email that last sentence isn't me