First Halterings! Mustang Gentling
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Both of these mustangs are so soft and sweet... within a few short sweet sessions, both are wearing the halter! I show all the prep I do with both of them in this, and talk about how different horses can do better with different approaches sometimes.
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Hey! My name is Sam and I enjoy making content of all my horse adventures and sharing some training tips to help others understand horses a little better. I enjoy competing in Extreme Mustang Makeovers and traveling cross-country with my horses and teaching clinics! I love interacting with all of you so feel free to leave me a comment or message me on Instagram :)
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Re-occurring Horses (Personal + Current Training)
Stargazer- 9yo 15.2hh pinto gelding BLM Mustang (Onaqui UT)
Nora- 4yo 14.1hh grey mare BLM Mustang (Onaqui UT)
Hank- 9yo 14.3hh roan gelding BLM Mustang (Little Owyhee NV)
Lynx- 7yo 14.2hh grey gelding BLM Mustang (Wood Hills NV)
Calliope- 16yo 16hh pinto mare Draft X (PMU foal)
We love working with Sam! Thanks for taking it at their pace. ✨Stargazer and Nora✨
I love their colorings. When they shed out they will be a gorgeous pair. Thanks for sharing their journey. I learn so much!
I can't wait to see their glow ups! Stargazer especially is freaking gorgeous!
Freaking love your shirt!!😁😎
This video is awesome!!
What you (and others) are doing with these incredible sentient beings is absolutely incredible
You know, the Onaqui Mountain horses see people a lot in the wild, so a lot of them are the sweetest and calmest around people. Ive always loved Nora, and im glad she ended up being trained by you!
What luck! I like Stargazer's stoutish build and was about to go back a video or so since I knew his HMA was mentioned. (Onaqui Mountain - thanks!) I might have guessed from his size he was from a Wyoming herd, but just read that sometime after a 2005 Onaqui roundup, they released some stallions and mares from other HMAs to improve genetic diversity, color and size in his Utah herd. It looks like Stargazer is a beneficiary of this genetic boost.
I love them both but I’m a Stargazer fan 🙂😉
@@jimmyyounger618 ya! I live kinda close to the Onaqui herd, so its cool to see horses like Stargazer!! But personally ive noticed that a whole bunch of Utah horses just have a bulky build. I'm not sure if it's because the different herd genetics, or if they are just bulky!
@@SamVanFleet I love both of them, but I just love to see Onaqui mares getting out in the world and being trained!!
@@Hannahs_Mustangs Lucky! I'd love to have a mustang herd close enough to follow. What I could follow was the BLM auction that ended Tuesday. In a gallery search, there was only one Onaqui horse among more than 200 up for adoption, and she was started at the prison facility in Arizona. She's 14 hands, 7 years old, a good build and easy going. You'll never guess what the bid was, on top of not being eligible for the incentive, plus an $875 prison training fee. The winning bid on her was $3,620. So out the door... $4,495. (Wow!!!) The one Onaqui horse in the whole auction of over 200 was the high seller by a fair margin! Dang... Sam, You, Me; we should have kept our mouths shut about the Onaqui herd. (I mostly blame Sam; I only chipped in a nickles worth of Onaqui history, so I'm off the hook for this mustang inflation.) I mean, who'd have thunk they could be promoted past the price point of a very decent AQHA foundation bred colt with a similar build and mind? If you're curious about her specifics, her tag # is 7532. Her video is here on YT: ruclips.net/video/NjgNIjLM6QI/видео.html Cheers!
I was scrolling through Instagram the other day and I saw a picture of this mustang in the wild pop up and it looked a lot like Stargazer, surely enough, it was him! It was very cool to see him in the wild interacting with other wild mustangs. I'm so glad he's getting gentled by a great trainer like you. Also, I love how curious Nora was throughout the video! It was very cute to see her watching what you were doing with Stargazer.
It's nice to see that some people understand the premise of not looking a feral horse in the eye. Great work, as always, and thank you for sharing with us!
Monty Roberts has a couple videos that address looking horses in the eye and squaring up your shoulders to them and extending your arms with opened hands - all of which are threatening to horses in the wild. So, you are right, Sam.
They are both really well built mustangs!😍
Great job!
So pretty.. Those horses are fine specimens.
Don't look them directly in the eye... True! I have no idea where I heard this or if I hit upon it myself when catching horses in pasture as a kid, but I eventually put 2 and 2 together while watching our Border Collie work. He rarely barked, never bit, but could turn and move cows with nothing but body positing and "giving eye." Likewise, I noticed our horses were much easier to catch if I didn't move directly toward them and avoided eye contact. I've since noticed this eye contact and direct approach is exactly what predators do when stalking toward game. Instead, I'd look to the side of them as I walked past them, and when I stopped they were usually coming to me. Fast forward a few decades and I got to demonstrate this while visiting a pair of trainers trying to catch a mare they had in who had been turned out. They chased, cornered, missed a rope throw - all to no avail. I asked if I could try and got a sarcastic, "Sure. Good luck." Empty handed, I gave her a wide berth as I walked past her without ever looking at her. I could tell she was suspicious and needed a little time to settle down from the earlier upset. Coming back up the pasture, I walked a little bit closer and walked slowly without eye contact while talking softly. I stopped ahead of her, gave her a quick glance while still talking softly and otherwise stared at the ground, using peripheral vision to see what she was thinking about this. After being pursued, she seemed to be looking for a friend and approached me, welcomed my scratches and praise, then led to the gate by the halter without hesitation. Staring eye to eye is the communication between predator and prey. "Off center viewing," using only peripheral vision is a passive, non-threatening presence.
*Edit to add* A month after this eye contact discussion, I'm flipping through a book that just arrived: 'Horse Brain | Human Brain, The Neuroscience Of Horsemanship' by Janet L. Jones, PhD. In the Chapter, 'Equine Emotion,' subsection, "The Anti-Fear Arsenal", is a portion of a paragraph that reads, "Shift your eye contact away from his. Direct eye contact acts as a warning to a horse, scolding or applying pressure -- we're predators, remember?" I'd add that context is everything. Every horse is still an individual and that individual's experience and the circumstances of the moment matter substantially. While a fresh off the range horse is likely to interpret eye contact as predatory, it can also be the draw for an experienced horse who understands eye contact as an invitation for scratches or a treat.
Kind of nice to see something so many of us have observed, practiced and preached be validated by a UCLA PhD in cognitive research!
Sam! Great video. Beautiful mustangs, etc. I hope you read this. I taught college level art and design years ago. Wish you had been one of my students…mostly because of the horse thing, but also I want to say that you have a really good artistic eye. Love your new introduction. Very tasteful and thought out. It’s a talent not everyone has…but you do. So I offer some simple advice. Always ALWAYS trust your gut in art as well as the horses. I see a beautiful future for you and love watching it develop. Big fan from Minnesota.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
You’re so kind! Thank you!
I like how he's put together. And her curiosity is really cute. Will be fun to watch you bring them along. 😊
I love his build and little snip
Thanks for taking on two. It will in interesting to compare and contrast their combined journeys!
They are both so sweet, smart and gorgeous
Great session with good explanation.
He is built SOOO nice.
Love your videos Sam!! I have absolutely learned so so much!! How old was Lynx when you sat/rode on him for the first time?
Hope all is well!!!
I am so excited to see what ya’ll accomplish!! 🤓💯 Nora & StarGazer have such unique coloring.
Always thank you for sharing your work, life and journeys with us! 💜
Sending good vibes from Montana
Hey! I’m a new subscriber and found you from searching on how to halter a wild horse the first time. THANK YOU for this great video. It’s been surprisingly hard to find one that fits my style :) So… I’m trying to halter one of my own first feral horses and I’ve really struggled. I can get a rope around her neck, pet her, brush her body, and she even does some basic liberty stuff with leading and coming to me, but I can’t get the dang halter on. Exploring on my own I happened to try using the long whip almost exactly like you do, but haven’t in a while… so I might try that again and build to the halter. That said, you mention that some horses are really sensitive around the nose. That seems to be my horse. Do you have another video of haltering a horse that’s more sensitive I might be able to watch? Or do I just need to keep repeating the exercise and give her more time?
Horses are prey animals with eyes on the side of their face while we have eyes in front like a predator. Staring at them is threatening until they learn to trust us. I learned the phrase "eyes on side, likes to hide; eyes in front, likes to hunt."
Awesome! 👌😊
WHAT A GOOD BOY!!
He's doing great! I do believe he is more of a Wild Mustang than a feral horse? Born wild right? Wouldn't you agree?
If the mare was from the Dec auction, they all came with a warning that they were exposed to stallions, as they were captured in July, and are most likely pregnant....so whoever won her might get a 2 for 1 deal.... if it was from an earlier auction, then I don't know. The gelding looks like a very nice big horse...and he seems very mellow, so far.
Good luck and thanks for the video.
They were both from the December auction. The gelding and the mare were caught together (She was his only mare) So she probably will have his foal, and it might be the cutest thing ever!
and every auction comes with that warning for mares, they HAVE to do it
@@Hannahs_Mustangs I hope the foal doesn't inherit her grey gene. What a shame to see a beautiful paint grey out and lose all of its color - making the assumption that it will inherit the paint gene. Although if no one loves him for that, I still will.
I really like how you curve your shoulders so they don't think your dominating. No you don't look them in the eye. They think you are trying to dominate them when you look in their eyes.
I love your new intro!!! Have you finished your sessions with Hank?
I’m going to make one video before he goes home from training! It will give an update from everything from the last video to the end of training 😁 expect it sometime in March I believe! Of early April
@@SamVanFleet Awesome, thank you!!
Did anybody else also not receive a notification for this video?
Make sure tell people to also give you horse a door. An out not to block them in.
Not looking horses in the eye is an 'old wives tale' apparently and came from not looking unkown dogs straight in the eyes, as they percieve a threat. Horses don't. I'd never hear that until you mentioned it and I never had any problems from looking horses in the eye. Two of my rescues were unhandled brumby's - Aussie wild horses - I looked at them the same way as I did any of my horses. Stargazer is a lovely boy, he'll look great when he's cleaned up a bit, and solid! One of my QH foals was called that (not going to be his registered name), he died very young, just after birth but I always still liked the name.
How old is this horse ?
i think the gelding is almost ten (or a little bit older) and I'm sure the mare is around his age. but i have no clue
@@Hannahs_Mustangs which one is the mare
@@emilylipsitz I think the darker horse is Nora and the first horse, the paint, is a gelding called Stargazer.
@@Hannahs_Mustangs He is 9.
Podrían ponerles subtítulos en español por favor??
You don't look an aggressive or scared dog in the eye (especially if you don't know the dog). If you have a young dog showing aggression towards people/kids you positively better hold that stare down longer than the dog or you lose and they keep their attitude of pack leader. I've had extremely aggressive dogs come with in inches of me snarling with their teeth bared and ready to pounce at one wrong move. I would generally not stare at them but I'd also not run or show my fear. I've not been bitten once while training them. Eye contact is important at certain times and no direct eye contact is important at other times with prey animals also.
"It's said the old saying of not looking a horse in the eye is a myth. There is one exception to the "don't look your horse in the eye" theory: That exception is when you encounter an extremely fearful and reserved horse for the very first time. It's useful to drop your gaze and drop your energy in those first few moments, to show absolutely no body language that could be misinterpreted as predatorial. But after just a few short moments, you can lift your gaze and begin to build trust." Basically what you do with your horses already.
With that said I find myself trying not to stare them down at all and come across strong but not intimidating (which may be taken as aggression or predatorial).
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