There was a petition to not get him in that got a fair few signatures, but Sullivan has never really cared what the fans want. It’s why, under his stewardship we have been subjected to BFS, Moyes twice and now JLo. Pragmatic managers. I don’t even know what to say, but you watch Sullivan, these pundits and everyone else put the boots into us for wanting Moyes out now. We just wanted to enjoy our football, something we have been absolutely robbed of for a long time. Remember Sullivan blamed the fans for Pellegrini as well, then that tosspot Simon Jordan started blaming us for it as well.
I am neither a West Ham nor a Chelsea fan. But I saw the match. Horrible defence from West Ham. Wan Bisaka playing very advanced and leaving acres of space behind him. West Ham had no defence. Everytime Chelsea advanced into the West Ham half, it seemed they would be scoring. No energy from West Ham. Pathetic and sad.
West ham fan here, people were tired of moyes style of play despite doing well for us. But almost EVERYONE didn’t want lopetegui , there were petitions. People called him the Spanish moyes. I guarentee if moyes and steitden got on well moyes would still be here
Most people were bigging West Ham up before the season with their new signings,but i didn't rate their new signings like most seemed too. Mid table i believe they'll get, nothing special going on at West Ham unfortunately for their fans. 😂
Don't give me this "be careful what you wish for" bullsh1t... why should supporters not want more success for their team!! The problem seems, so far, that the board has replaced Moyes with a Moyes 2.0. The warnings came that he wasn't much different.....looks like they were correct.
West Ham don't usually play 5 at the back and for some reason we played with 2 CB (1 DM dropping in) and wing backs today and it obviously didn't work. Using a DM to cover as a CB, meant we left gaps for Chelsea to expose in the middle. We got caught out in the fullback position from pushing up too much.
We didn't want JLo. And I've had enough of this be careful what you wish for bs. What we got was the equivalent of wishing for a Harley and getting a BMX. We don't want Moyes back, we want a better quality of manager. Lopetagui felt like a step backwards not forwards, I hope he proves me wrong
Any IDIOT saying "See, we told you" & "Much better under Moyes". We got battered 5+ times last year by 4+ goals. I can assure you, we are not worse off now. It will take time and i hope Julen can do it for us, he needs to get his tactics right ASAP.
Not often I agree with cundy but he's bang on Regardless of the tactics effort or lack of is no excuse. Mavrapanos for jacksons first goal was jogging back, instead of busting a gut to get back and cover for the out of position wan bissaka. Disgusting and it's the second time in two weeks it's happened. Todibo needs to start.
Im not a west ham, or Chelsea fan, but people need to calm down a little. Every single season we hear football fans either going way over the top about how good their teams are, or way over the top about how rubbish they are. We all know how much things change throughout the season. Last season spurs thought they had won the league at this point, but then finished fifth, and Newcastle looked odds on to get top after a good start to the league, and smashing PSG at home 4-1 (or whatever it was) but then all the players ended up in the treatment room for the whole season. I always wait until at least xmas before trying to figure out whos going to finish where in the league.
Can you not get one pundit in who actually does their homework. We may have finished 9th, but we had 4 wins in 2024, we were thumped by 4 goals or more around 7 times. When they dont know, they antagonise.
We have lost to Villa, city and Chelsea . Overreaction Judge us after we have played anyone else outside “top6 sides” Moyes out. Still! No one wanted lop . Let’s get that straight. It’s the board . But in fairness. Give him time
I can't believe Jason Cundy is a Chelsea man... He'll literally do anything but say anything positive about the club especially when it's warranted. "Chelsea can't be good, West Ham MUST be bad" It's a disgrace. He's a disgrace.
Your not just paying what a player is worth. You’re also paying what a player is worth to that club. Jack Grealish is a decent player. Maybe worth £50 million at the time he was bought. But he was also the star player at Villa, so you need to pay them to lose him, which turned out to be worth another £50 million. Caicedo was probably a £30 million player when Brighton sold him. We didn’t need to let him go, and he was our player of the season. Liverpool were crazy to offer £70 million over his worth, but Tony Bloom is a stone cold gangster and was like ‘£100 million or no dice!’ Chelsea then lost their marbles and chucked in another £15 mil, just because they knew he loved Chelsea as a boy and they couldn’t stand losing to Liverpool. So Tony Bloom took their pants down, but where else are you going to find a Caicedo? There’s only one and if you want him, you gotta pay the piper!
he was definitely worth more than 30m, that kind of money is what West Ham payed for Fulkrug and less than Brighton paid for Rutter. He was probably a 70m player from what he had shown, arguably 80-85m based on what he could do in future. Still a drastic overpay but if he plays for Chelsea for 9 years, thats an insane investment. He had a rough probably 5 games to start after a drawn out transfer saga and no pre season, since then he has been nothing short of incredible but his price tag will always overpower whatever he does. Maybe they could have gotten him for 85/90m had they made that offer early and tied up the transfer but they tried playing the waiting game and it back fired. I highly doubt the owners regret their investment, cos 80m or 110m, regardless, those price are never about making profit on him for Chelsea.
@@scottyh1238Caicedo had only been playing in the Prem for a couple of years, that’s why I put a £30 million price tag on him. Also, he’s not a striker or winger. Yves Bissouma is as good a player and I think we sold him for £25 mil, but Caicedo’s price was drastically inflated because of the length of his contract he had left, the competition to sign him, and the drastic inflation in the amount clubs would pay for players after the Grealish transfer. I agree that he was looking like a £50 million player that last season at Brighton, but a couple of years prior and what most people call a £50 million player now, would objectively have been a £30 million player. A lot of factors came together to make Caicedo the biggest transfer fee in Premier League history, and I personally think only Tony Bloom could have pulled that off at that price, from a club the size of Brighton. Caicedo is beginning to really find his feet at Chelsea, but only Messi or Ronaldo are ever going to live up to a what people expect of a £100 million price tag. But the reality of these price tags is that they don’t just reflect what the player is worth. They reflect many factors. Even the timing of the transfer. I guess £50 would be a fair price for Caicedo. For me, Bissouma was almost a carbon copy of Caicedo, regarding the role he did at Brighton, and he was even better at dictating the play. Caicedo is slightly better on the ball though.
It was a penalty all day long! How do they now judge fouls by how long someone is touching another player? Riduculous! I only clipped his heals with my boot and he fell over, it was a fraction of a second, oh well, thats ok then, no foul!
hope all the Moyes out lot are proud of themselves, should been untouchable for what he delivered,... 3 years back to back to back in Europe and a trophy, people soon forget where we have been many times before and their expectations delusional. I hope J-Lo can sort this out and obviously what done is done, we need him to now, and quickly because Brentford away next is gonna be very hard in this current state, then it is another international break.
You say ‘we’ 41 caps . Less than a season you are a no mark.., bore off… I listened to 30 seconds… not listened to cun’ty or talk shite for 3 years … not missing it.. just need to block on my feeds
When Chelsea wins some team is bad on that day never given credit to Chelsea 😂😂😂😢
Not one West Ham fan wanted lopetegui
There was a petition to not get him in that got a fair few signatures, but Sullivan has never really cared what the fans want. It’s why, under his stewardship we have been subjected to BFS, Moyes twice and now JLo. Pragmatic managers. I don’t even know what to say, but you watch Sullivan, these pundits and everyone else put the boots into us for wanting Moyes out now. We just wanted to enjoy our football, something we have been absolutely robbed of for a long time. Remember Sullivan blamed the fans for Pellegrini as well, then that tosspot Simon Jordan started blaming us for it as well.
But you wanted rid of Moyes ? Getting what you deserve.
Lopetegui aren't going to come close to Moyes.😂
I am neither a West Ham nor a Chelsea fan. But I saw the match. Horrible defence from West Ham. Wan Bisaka playing very advanced and leaving acres of space behind him. West Ham had no defence. Everytime Chelsea advanced into the West Ham half, it seemed they would be scoring. No energy from West Ham. Pathetic and sad.
West ham fan here, people were tired of moyes style of play despite doing well for us. But almost EVERYONE didn’t want lopetegui , there were petitions. People called him the Spanish moyes. I guarentee if moyes and steitden got on well moyes would still be here
David Moyes is having a drink somewhere with a fat roll up while Lopetegui sinks Westham into the championship 🤣🤣
What's a fat role up?
@@Daniyal731hand rolled cigarette
@@imoutofyourleague4299 ahh thank you
@@burnaardnufc3173saying “a fat” roll up would imply it may have had something added to it and not rolled with a filter tip either
I saw it coming since they hired Lopetgui.
Moyes can do one! If he was the last manager in the world available, I would rather have my nan manage West Ham and shes been dead 30 years!!!
These people talking about Moyes and be careful what you wish for make me laugh.. we still don’t want Moyes and we never wanted Lopetegui
Most people were bigging West Ham up before the season with their new signings,but i didn't rate their new signings like most seemed too. Mid table i believe they'll get, nothing special going on at West Ham unfortunately for their fans. 😂
Don't give me this "be careful what you wish for" bullsh1t... why should supporters not want more success for their team!! The problem seems, so far, that the board has replaced Moyes with a Moyes 2.0. The warnings came that he wasn't much different.....looks like they were correct.
West Ham don't usually play 5 at the back and for some reason we played with 2 CB (1 DM dropping in) and wing backs today and it obviously didn't work. Using a DM to cover as a CB, meant we left gaps for Chelsea to expose in the middle. We got caught out in the fullback position from pushing up too much.
We didn't want JLo. And I've had enough of this be careful what you wish for bs. What we got was the equivalent of wishing for a Harley and getting a BMX. We don't want Moyes back, we want a better quality of manager. Lopetagui felt like a step backwards not forwards, I hope he proves me wrong
Who are those two!? 😂
Chelsea.... Londons pride.❤
Dirty shame is more fitting
Any IDIOT saying "See, we told you" & "Much better under Moyes". We got battered 5+ times last year by 4+ goals. I can assure you, we are not worse off now.
It will take time and i hope Julen can do it for us, he needs to get his tactics right ASAP.
Caicedo took his revenge against the hammers. He destroyed Paqueta
Revenge ?
We have no beef with Caicedo
Lopetegui wasn’t wanted by the fans because we knew how similar he was to moyes this was a board appointment just like pellegrini was a mistake.
Not often I agree with cundy but he's bang on
Regardless of the tactics effort or lack of is no excuse.
Mavrapanos for jacksons first goal was jogging back, instead of busting a gut to get back and cover for the out of position wan bissaka. Disgusting and it's the second time in two weeks it's happened. Todibo needs to start.
It was awful at the end with Moyes. Most fans didn't want Jlo either so thats on our useless board again.
That thumbnail needs to be changed.
Im not a west ham, or Chelsea fan, but people need to calm down a little. Every single season we hear football fans either going way over the top about how good their teams are, or way over the top about how rubbish they are. We all know how much things change throughout the season. Last season spurs thought they had won the league at this point, but then finished fifth, and Newcastle looked odds on to get top after a good start to the league, and smashing PSG at home 4-1 (or whatever it was) but then all the players ended up in the treatment room for the whole season. I always wait until at least xmas before trying to figure out whos going to finish where in the league.
Can you not get one pundit in who actually does their homework. We may have finished 9th, but we had 4 wins in 2024, we were thumped by 4 goals or more around 7 times. When they dont know, they antagonise.
we dont want moyes and we never wanted lopz
its not a pen. when the contact starts outside the box
WRONG.
Cundy is so anti Chelsea when he tries to praise Chelsea 😂😂😅
The penalty wouldn’t have saved West Ham.
We have lost to Villa, city and Chelsea .
Overreaction
Judge us after we have played anyone else outside “top6 sides”
Moyes out. Still!
No one wanted lop . Let’s get that straight. It’s the board . But in fairness. Give him time
I can't believe Jason Cundy is a Chelsea man...
He'll literally do anything but say anything positive about the club especially when it's warranted.
"Chelsea can't be good, West Ham MUST be bad"
It's a disgrace. He's a disgrace.
It's funny because in 6months time when everything clicks for West Ham we'll forget about this. It's 5games in lol fickle
He’s out there wearing jeans….😂
Loppy ain't a patch on moyes. Should never have hounded him out. Ungrateful lot. Deserve what comes.
nothing has changed for west ham since winning the Europa conference league final 😂😂😂😂🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
Your not just paying what a player is worth. You’re also paying what a player is worth to that club.
Jack Grealish is a decent player.
Maybe worth £50 million at the time he was bought.
But he was also the star player at Villa, so you need to pay them to lose him, which turned out to be worth another £50 million.
Caicedo was probably a £30 million player when Brighton sold him.
We didn’t need to let him go, and he was our player of the season.
Liverpool were crazy to offer £70 million over his worth, but Tony Bloom is a stone cold gangster and was like ‘£100 million or no dice!’
Chelsea then lost their marbles and chucked in another £15 mil, just because they knew he loved Chelsea as a boy and they couldn’t stand losing to Liverpool.
So Tony Bloom took their pants down, but where else are you going to find a Caicedo?
There’s only one and if you want him, you gotta pay the piper!
he was definitely worth more than 30m, that kind of money is what West Ham payed for Fulkrug and less than Brighton paid for Rutter. He was probably a 70m player from what he had shown, arguably 80-85m based on what he could do in future. Still a drastic overpay but if he plays for Chelsea for 9 years, thats an insane investment. He had a rough probably 5 games to start after a drawn out transfer saga and no pre season, since then he has been nothing short of incredible but his price tag will always overpower whatever he does.
Maybe they could have gotten him for 85/90m had they made that offer early and tied up the transfer but they tried playing the waiting game and it back fired. I highly doubt the owners regret their investment, cos 80m or 110m, regardless, those price are never about making profit on him for Chelsea.
@@scottyh1238Caicedo had only been playing in the Prem for a couple of years, that’s why I put a £30 million price tag on him. Also, he’s not a striker or winger. Yves Bissouma is as good a player and I think we sold him for £25 mil, but Caicedo’s price was drastically inflated because of the length of his contract he had left, the competition to sign him, and the drastic inflation in the amount clubs would pay for players after the Grealish transfer. I agree that he was looking like a £50 million player that last season at Brighton, but a couple of years prior and what most people call a £50 million player now, would objectively have been a £30 million player.
A lot of factors came together to make Caicedo the biggest transfer fee in Premier League history, and I personally think only Tony Bloom could have pulled that off at that price, from a club the size of Brighton.
Caicedo is beginning to really find his feet at Chelsea, but only Messi or Ronaldo are ever going to live up to a what people expect of a £100 million price tag.
But the reality of these price tags is that they don’t just reflect what the player is worth. They reflect many factors. Even the timing of the transfer.
I guess £50 would be a fair price for Caicedo.
For me, Bissouma was almost a carbon copy of Caicedo, regarding the role he did at Brighton, and he was even better at dictating the play.
Caicedo is slightly better on the ball though.
Didn't he said that if the refs make the wrong decision he's cool with it 🤬
West sham going down or what? How long does it take ? Hoping its this year like every year.
Who’s the blonde rocket
God be the days u had to be famous to talk about football apart from candy who are these
Get on with it. Why do you need to be famous to talk about football . Haven’t you had enough of the likes of Michael Owen
@@edscorner2827 I'm sick of you tubers only on now because it has to be 1 white 1 woman and 1 black person who haven't a clue
Grow some balls mate
diversify
Cundy famous???
Havent a clue who he is
We made them look bad
West ham will be in a relegation battle
It was a penalty all day long! How do they now judge fouls by how long someone is touching another player? Riduculous! I only clipped his heals with my boot and he fell over, it was a fraction of a second, oh well, thats ok then, no foul!
hope all the Moyes out lot are proud of themselves, should been untouchable for what he delivered,... 3 years back to back to back in Europe and a trophy, people soon forget where we have been many times before and their expectations delusional. I hope J-Lo can sort this out and obviously what done is done, we need him to now, and quickly because Brentford away next is gonna be very hard in this current state, then it is another international break.
I hope Hammers go down ..they way the fans treated Moyes ...you are West Ham .your rubbish.
John shut up you idiot 😊
You ain’t got a clue
@@CharlieKerr11 To much truth for you old Rue Paul.
You say ‘we’ 41 caps . Less than a season you are a no mark.., bore off…
I listened to 30 seconds… not listened to cun’ty or talk shite for 3 years … not missing it.. just need to block on my feeds
And you lot thought getting rid of david moyes was a good thing...😅🤣
He was the best thing to happen to West ham and yous wanted him out
😂😂😂😂😂 well ye got ride of moyes be careful wat ye wish for 😂😂😂😂
Who cares what the woman thinks
Nicolas Jackson copying a well known kiddy fiddler. That's proper Chels 😂😂😂