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Remember the episode with the parasites and the exploding officer? They alluded to it here when they said the same thing happened to the planets along the Neutral Zone, that’s because those parasites were supposed to be the next burg bad guy, but because several reasons, one of them being the cost of doing the bug creatures, they changed the plot to be the Borg, although some elements of their previous plot remain.
This episode sets up what many people consider to be the epitome of Star Trek episodes, certainly in the top ten best of Trek. Look forward to the Borg’s next appearance, it’s a doozy.
I'm SOOO happy you finally met the BOOORRRGGG...😂..YES!!!!...they WILL be back and they're the Enterprises GREATEST enemy🤘🤘🔥🔥🔥there's a movie Final contact (or something😅) n its awesome..you'll love it Mrs Jen 👌👍 can't wait for you to see it 😊
I like how they just beam down to places without knowing it safe did they know that there was a breathable oxygen for them there do they know the board wouldn't be ready to fire on in the second they beamed in and when they say there's a class m planet that can support life how do they know there isn't poison like bacteria in the air that will kill them all the second they get down there really they should be wearing space suits that filter the air every time they go anywhere
joeb918 That was referring to the episode “The Neutral Zone,” which took place after “Conspiracy,” which is the episode you mean. It’s possible that when “The Neutral Zone” was written they intended for the enemy to be the brainbugs from “Conspiracy.” But in that case it’s kind of odd that Picard and Riker don’t say anything about it at the time, considering that they very clearly know about the bugs. I think it’s more likely that they decided to change the plot BEFORE “The Neutral Zone” was filmed, so any reference to the bugs was removed from the script at that time, and it was simply left as an unknown enemy.
@Valkyrie77 to be fair, some stains require godlike powers to remove. **cue Q** "That's why I'm here to show you my new entry in the detergent market... Oxi-Q!!"
Congratulations to Ensign Gomez. A new character is introduced, they meet a hostile species, and she's still alive when it's over. A rarity in the Trek universe.
@Evan, fun fact: the same eye raising feature(s) was something Gene also wanted for Troi… We can probably blame (or thank) Douglas Adam’s however, as he originally had wrote about such things in Hitchhiker’s Guide where he spoke of Eccentrica Gallumbits. I suppose Gallumtits was a little too on the nose so he went with a rhyme.
The irony of which is that they were developed because of some real world issues pressing on the show. One of them being that the original intent for this bad guy was too expensive, (the parasite bug creatures seen in previous episodes) so they came up with a more cost effective bad guy.
Unfortunately, the Borg followed the same useage arc taken by many other lovecraftian horrors in hollywood: 1- Introduced as horrifying, unknowable, terrifying 2- Defeated after the cliffhanger in the next season. 3- Repeatedly defeated by all over iterations of the intellectual property. 4- Just another joke to be parodied.
@@anathardayaldar Yes and especially Voyager did them no good. A tactical Cube, which is capable to wipe out entire fleets, attack the Voyager.... Shields at 80%. The Cube fires again: Shields at 79,99%
@@Anthyrion... yeah, VOY made them a bit of a "villain of the week". A standard cube can wipe out entire fleets, Starfleet alone had it done to them twice, a Tactical Cube should have one or two-shotted an Intrepid-class. But plot armour... 🤷♂
I love the Q episodes. It does feel like Q is actually doing humanity a favor at times, despite his disregard for human life, by teaching them hard lessons.
It’s even more than that. Remember, the Borg were already probing the federation’s borders by this point (missing colonies anyone?). What Q did was give Starfleet’s top crew in a ship with some of their most advanced sensors a chance to understand the coming threat and escape with that knowledge. The Continuum would never have let Q save the Federation directly, but he could absolutely play these games.
Q is like Loki. He fancies himself a god, but even he admits at some point the Q are not really deities, just more highly "evolved" than most other species in this galaxy.
Nah, q knows that he isn't a god. He is a strict teacher. What he does in this episode seems evil, horrible and yes people died but if you think about it he probably saved the entire federation from the Borg. If they had not encountered them here so many things would have been different and most importantly a certain Admiral would likely have not survived long enough to perform a certain action. If you know you know.
A funny story about Whoopi Goldberg: When she was little she was flipping through channels and came across a scene with Uhura. She ran through the house shouting "Mommy come quick, there's a black girl on TV and she ain't no maid".
@@martinmackye9865 Uhh... actually that story's been consistent since she started telling it. I remember hearing that story in the 1990s, so I am confident it's _not_ exaggerated for today. ruclips.net/video/80rv2cSmmYg/видео.html You walk a verrrry fine line, saying what you just said. If Gene Roddenberry himself didn't find merit in Whoopi Goldberg and her story then, she would _never_ have made it on to _TNG_ in 1988. _Do not_ equate what she does _today_ with what she did _yesterday._ Saying that people don't change over time... sounds an awful lot like the distant squeals of social media _pigs._
@@tremorsfan So... Was she there when it happened??? How does she confirm something she obviously never witnessed? The story could well be true but Whoopi does have a bit of a history. It's impossible to say if it really happened or not. It'd be like me saying that my first year of Primary School, I wrote a novel. You can't verify if I did or not and you have to take me at my word. If a friend of mine shows up here to say: "Yep. He did" but I didn't even know that friend at the time and they also provide nothing of worth: You can take their testimony with a grain of salt. That's just how it is, I'm afraid. Having said that: Tremors is great.
Another classic episode featuring Q and introducing the Borg. Q is mischievous but powerful and the Borg are chilling. When Guinan is shock, you best take notice! 😅
My take is the Borg already had made contact with both the federation and the romulans and they were already coming. Q just gave the federation a heads up as to what is just around the corner. Q didn’t really speed things up, or at least if he did, it wasn’t by that much. The die was already shown to be cast earlier in the series.
Although the instigating events of the episode "The Neutral Zone" (the destruction of Federation and Romulan outposts) was originally intended to be caused by the creatures from the previous episode, "Conspiracy", they kinda got retconned into being caused by the Borg. So you're absolutely right, the Borg were already probing the edges of Federation space. The Borg's introduction to the Federation has been retconned quite a bit, actually, but they never invalidate this episode (just Guinan's guess about moving the timeline up).
Remember, the Borg are already scouting around the Neutral Zone (remember what happened to the outposts). This was definitely a "get your head out of your asses" warning by Q.
As a kid I got the idea that the Borg were intentionally trying to start a war between the Federation and Romulans. Why else would they destroy just the Neutral Zone outposts and then leave?
@@HawkGTboy I think that's just something that we have the benefit of hindsight. The Borg don't really think in ways like that. They scout, they learn, they overwhelm. It's something we see them doing on a small and a large scale.
In the 80's, when each episode premiered, the Q ones were a highlight and helped pace the show. Having a recurring strong antagonist who could match Patrick Stewart's acting was a great innovation. John de Lancie was an excellent casting choice.
That's why I'm so conflicted about his inclusion in Encounter at Farpoint. On the one hand, his part of the story was shoehorned in practically at the last minute because the studio wanted a double-length premier so the episode works a lot better without all that padding. On the other hand, though, he's a great character, the show and franchise wouldn't have been the same without him, some of the best episodes are Q-based, and he probably wouldn't have existed had he not been inserted into Farpoint.
Q's message was also aimed to the present day. Human exploration of the solar system won't be painless or without risk. If you want to stay safe stay in your house with the shades drawn. Don’t expect the wonders and knowledge to come without pain.
One minor note, when Paramount went back and cleaned up the first two seasons, it seems for this episode they enhanced the special effects so that the Borg effects are more visually consistent with what came after. It's interesting seeing a lot more green in this episode than how it usually airs on television.
In the first Borg episodes of TNG they were still really threatening and frightening, but especially from Voyager onwards they became a laughing stock and in the Picard series people seem to have completely forgotten what Borg actually are and what abilities they have. The idea of a Borg queen was perhaps still good at the beginning, but it was implemented worse and worse. The Borg in the Delta Quadrant as we know them have existed for at least 1000 years. They already existed when the home of the Vaadwaur was destroyed.
Don't know if I've said this in a previous video, but I saw John DeLancie at a small Trek convention on Cape Cod. What a joy he was, talking about Star Trek, show biz, and Hollywood in general. He's a real talent and seemed to be a great guy in real life. He was billed with George Takei, who everyone knows is a great convention speaker.
They were playing 3D chess there at the end. The Ten Forward scene with Q and Guinan has been a topic of _lots_ of discussion among fans. Q didn't know Guinan was there, which is significant in and of itself. Also, the way Guinan raised her hands when Q threatened to remove her seems to suggest that she has some sort of ability to defend herself against Q's power. On the other hand, she freely admits that her race was scattered and nearly driven to extinction by the Borg, which suggests that they're not all that powerful after all.
This is probably the first episode that feels like season 3+ TNG... so much so that I've often looked for it in season 3 before remembering it actually showed up in 2.
Even though it was written by the show Maurice Hurley, who leaves after this season. All I can say is good riddance. One good episode does not forgive a multitude of massive mistakes. But it will certainly condemn it.
No, not the weeping angels. They are the Cybermen of the _Star Trek_ universe. Some Whovians accuse TNG of ripping off the Cybermen for the Borg. There's enough room for both.
@@toob1979 I always saw more Klingons = Daleks, Romulans = Cybermen, Borg = Weeping Angels, more based off popularity and time of introduction - Daleks and Cybermen are very classic like Klingons and Romulans, Angels and Borg very new generation.
Yeah, when this first aired, it was definitely a holy-sh*t episode. All anyone could talk about on the old Usenet boards was "when are we going to see them again?" And yes, the score in this one is AMAAAAAAAZING. Q is incredible in this one -- John Delancie is so, so good. He classes up everything he's in. I sometimes call him the American version of Paul Darrow (who you young'uns don't know), and they do have a lot in common, but Star Trek gave Delancie more leeway and room to maneuver than Darrow ever had. He is brilliant in this. I often think to myself that the reason why Troi entered the bridge so quickly at first and with such a worried expression on her face, immediately asking to speak to Picard, was that she realized she couldn't sense him on the ship anymore. And that she was so disquieted in the conference room scenes because she could sense fear from GUINAN, which she'd never sensed before.
With "Measure of a Man," you saw the first great episode of TNG. And this episode marks the point where TNG starts to depart from TOS and put its own stamp on the Star Trek universe. If you go through the remaining S.T. series (DS9, Voyager, Enterprise), this episode leave its mark on all that comes after.
This is the moment where this series took a huge leap forward... I was kind of an ambivalent watcher of the series as a teen (it was my dad's show), but this episode hooked me and the show became must-watch TV. I love Guinan, Q and the new baddies.
The Borg are developed and retconned and developed some more over the following ~10 years and several more series and movies, including their motives. Q is not a physical being at all. He's from outside our universe, so he's from outside our concepts of space and time. He's also a super important frenemy throughout the remainder of the franchise.
Sh*t just got real! 😂 So... Now you know what the Borg are. And as per your reaction you get how formidable and unsettling they are as opponents for our Galant crew aboard the Enterprise and the Federation as a whole. I know that in this episode when I watched as a kid they creeped me out. The Borg being inferred in season one and their introduction in season two really makes it impossible to just skip to season three. This one really expands THE LORE by a lot. Guinan, Q, new antagonists... And it's a crackerjack season two episode on top of it. Great reaction, and happy you "get" the Borg. It's no spoiler we will be seeing them again for sure in the future.
When I first saw all of Season 2 on the late New TNN Network, I've never quite noticed the difference in Data's eye color until this particular. Which in my opinion looks a whole lot better than the other eye color he's used during the first 15 episodes of the season. Lol
@@3Rayfire oh well I have seen a variety of chess sets with difference from classic pieces and boards. Perhaps it's that ? It's doubt its tri d checkers
OHHHH MAN! Been waiting with held breath for you to get to this one. I love it when Jen predicts that "Q better not mess with Guinan." LOL, Zoom Enhance and Commercial Break need to be on Jen Merch. This was Q becoming way more threatening and of an advisory than the last time he showed up. And it's all due to John DeLancie standing his ground with the director and talling him that Q would have no reason to get defensive or to have been overly jovial like was in the Riker Q episode. DeLancie wasted to play Q as a real warning to the Trek crew that they really aren't as prepared as they thought they were for what's out there. And lead to one of my favorite Q lines about it not being safe out here and if you can't handle loss you better go home and hide under the bed. GREAT episode. one of the best things TNG ever did.
"I wanna see the big baddies." Welp. Can't overstate the significance of this one on the future of Star Trek. You are in for a long, exciting ride with some great highs and a few lows. If you're still in S3 on your watchthrough, you're so very close. If you finished it by now then you know. Excited to be a part of your discovery of these iconic Trek moments.
This Borg episode changed the trajectory of the franchise from this episode forward. You've asked great questions and, if you carry on with the future different upcoming series ( especially Voyager) your Borg questions will be answered, but over many more shows and movies. It's quite a story and quite a gift to the franchise.
Good job on picking up that connection, Jen. Most people on their first watch through don't recognize the fact that this episode was supposed to link with the Season 1 finale The Neutral Zone and that the Borg were the ones responsible for the destruction of the Federation and Romulan outposts on either side of the NZ. The Neutral Zone WORF: The outpost was not just destroyed, it's as though some great force just scooped it off the face of the planet. Q Who WORF: It is as though some great force just scooped all the machine elements off the face of the planet. DATA: It is identical to what happened to the outposts along the Neutral Zone. To go further into the production, the Borg were originally going to be insectoid. The penultimate episode of season one Conspiracy had the small alien creatures that took over some of Starfleet's highest ranks, in the end we saw that they were transmitting some kind of homing beacon. This was the first clue dropped about the new big bad that the writers were developing, the second being the unnamed enemies in The Neutral Zone. In between seasons there was a writer's strike and then budgetary concerns that shifted the new enemy from expensive, hard to produce effects for an insectoid race to the humanoids in greige turtlenecks that would become the Borg, their "hivemind" being the only remaining remnant of the original insectoid idea. It's strange to think how different one of Star Trek's biggest races could have ended up, but they do say that limitations breed creativity and I think it was for the best here.
That sums up most alien races in star trek, having actual alien physiology is a strain on budgets. That’s why TOS is filled with repurposed costumes from other productions; space greeks, space fascists, space cowboys, space gladiators. Then it’s humans with prosthetics on foreheads, just alien enough to get the point across
I grew up watching this show, and this episode to me was a turning point for the show. I think fans loved the borg as the new "big bad". They became the enemy in multiple series and the movies.
It's really a pleasure to see Jen proving that this show is a CLASSIC for a reason! The Trek scuttlebutt is that the TNG cast and crew had a lot of fun making this show!
Love the content Jen, all the reactions! ❤️🙏🏽🥰🖖🏽 Love your musical flair 🎼🎸🎺🎹 I recommend The Last Starfighter and Willow, both have beautiful scores 😊✌🏽❤️ Keep it up! ☀️
Q Who was THE episode back in 1989 that took me from on the fence about TNG to "OK. This show is legit". Before this, I had seen a few episodes that were really good but not quite enough to make up for all the ones that didn't impress me at all. This episode was mindblowing in 1989. I mean, it didn't take much to blow my mind in 1989 but still. I still feel like it's the best Borg episode just because if they hadn't gotten this one just perfect, it probably wouldn't have worked as well as it did for sucking the world fully into TNG. It's still amazing watching it now. How it just feels like they knew exactly what they had when they made it.
So now you've passed a big milestone on your TNG (TNJ?) journey, Jen, you've met the Borg. It's great fun riding along with you. At one point today you talked about the show getting your wheels turning, which is so fun, because you always have something insightful to say. Thanks!
I enjoyed Star Trek The next generation. My grandson loves it and he asked me if I could get a Federation Starship for his birthday! He is smart for a 5 year old. The special effects were fantastic. Star Trek will last forever.
Reminds me of seeing the Playmates Ent-D from Generations in Toy's R Us as a kid. With detachable battle damage pieces. Man, I wanted that but I my dad wasn't particularly keen on the price tag.
"Riker probably thinks he just went off for a quickie." This is why Trek Sundays with Jen are awesome. To answer your question, implied is the correct form in this case. To infer is to draw a conclusion. To imply is to indirectly suggest a conclusion.
Such a good episode! A good introduction to a new threat with a serious tone, thrown in with Q's usual craziness make this a fun one one to rewatch. Epic reaction as always Jen!!!
"In a 2012 interview with Vulture, Lycia Naff revealed that her character, Ensign Gomez, was meant to be a love interest for Geordi, but this plot was dropped due to feedback from fans and producers."
Probably an unpopular opinion - but Q was helping the Federation by doing this to the Enterprise. Q knew the Borg were coming (e.g. the Federation and Roman outposts on the edge of the neutral zone had already been consumed and investigated by the Borg), and the Borg would be in Federation territory soon - but they had to be warned and shown just exactly what they were up against, to give them some time to defend themselves.
Not an unpopular opinion at all. Q is antagonistic and likes to remind the humans of how weak and dumb they are, but he also likes to help them in his own way, or at least help them challenge their own assumptions. This is a common theme in Q episodes.
The Borg were coming from the delta quadrant and have to travel through the beta quadrant to reach the neutral zone but something ( maybe the Hansen's) peaked their interest .
@@MartinCox-ny2rv Most fan theories I've read had it as the _Raven_ and also receiving the signal from the Drones they found in the Arctic. If anything, Q's actions here kept the timeline from unraveling before anyone had the means to prevent it.
Seeing this when I was a kid I remember thinking Q did the wrong thing. Knowing what I know now I feel the opposite. Q saved so many lives with his actions here preparing Starfleet for the future conflicts to come. If anything I would say we should thank Q.
No that’s wrong I am afraid the Borg have been aware of Earth and the Federation for some time remember they attacked the outposts along the neutral zone and something else that made them aware actually 2 things but I can’t say because that would be spoilers for other Trek shows
Yup. This isn't the Borg's first introduction to humanity. Maybe just the most formal. I like what that particular episode did, it cast a lingering shadow over humanity leading up to Q Who.
Who would have thought that this episode kicks off one of the most iconic villains of modern Trek and that nearly every show after encounters them in one form or has some elements influenced by them.
TOS! Where no man has gone before. also five year mission! TNG. WE’RE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE AND IT’S CONTINUING MISSION! (Not yelling, caps-lock stuck ) ps “taking a core sample!” I’m impressed! Almost no one knows that!
Jen, I find I'm tuning into these reactions of yours with comparable excitement to when new eps of the TNG were dropping. Imho, you're the best thing to happen to the ST franchise since the shows (the good ones) were still on the air.
LIke Q Said, The klingons, thje Romulans, the Ferengi..NOTHING COMPARED THE BORG!!! You wantd to meet the big badies...Well, meet the Big Bad Wolf of Star Trek! !!!
This was originally the second part of Time Squared. That's the reason Picard ends up in a shuttle alone in both and why what occurred there went unexplained.
Such a cool episode! You've finally been introduced to the Borg X) Star Trek only gets better from here! :D They were playing Tridimenional Chess, more commonly referred to as 3D Chess. It was introduced in the first season of the original Star Trek, and seen in several episodes of that series (usually we see Spock playing it). I don't think the series ever set up any rules for how to play it, but I think fans eventually did and you can buy 3D chess sets online (but they are pricey). I've never owned one, but they are pretty to look at. :)
So creepy are the Borg. First time I believe that I felt Picard and crew truly list, and only Q saved them. Cutting up of the Enterprise still gives me chills.
Always enjoying your intro!! Been waiting for this episode!! My top 10 episodes easily! The Q monologue, awesome!! Just realizing the last time I seen this episode was on a regular analog 32" TV!!! Wow time has transported by. Great Job Jennway!! Peace 🕊️☮️♾️😎
We have engaged the Borg! Yes i am so ready to get into the rest of the series! Q is such a son of a Q! And that reveal of Guinan an Imp... What? Im so ready for more! Thanks for sharing Jen ❤️💛 Engage...
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Remember the episode with the parasites and the exploding officer? They alluded to it here when they said the same thing happened to the planets along the Neutral Zone, that’s because those parasites were supposed to be the next burg bad guy, but because several reasons, one of them being the cost of doing the bug creatures, they changed the plot to be the Borg, although some elements of their previous plot remain.
This episode sets up what many people consider to be the epitome of Star Trek episodes, certainly in the top ten best of Trek. Look forward to the Borg’s next appearance, it’s a doozy.
I'm SOOO happy you finally met the BOOORRRGGG...😂..YES!!!!...they WILL be back and they're the Enterprises GREATEST enemy🤘🤘🔥🔥🔥there's a movie Final contact (or something😅) n its awesome..you'll love it Mrs Jen 👌👍 can't wait for you to see it 😊
I like how they just beam down to places without knowing it safe did they know that there was a breathable oxygen for them there do they know the board wouldn't be ready to fire on in the second they beamed in and when they say there's a class m planet that can support life how do they know there isn't poison like bacteria in the air that will kill them all the second they get down there really they should be wearing space suits that filter the air every time they go anywhere
joeb918 That was referring to the episode “The Neutral Zone,” which took place after “Conspiracy,” which is the episode you mean. It’s possible that when “The Neutral Zone” was written they intended for the enemy to be the brainbugs from “Conspiracy.” But in that case it’s kind of odd that Picard and Riker don’t say anything about it at the time, considering that they very clearly know about the bugs. I think it’s more likely that they decided to change the plot BEFORE “The Neutral Zone” was filmed, so any reference to the bugs was removed from the script at that time, and it was simply left as an unknown enemy.
"Microbrain! Growl for me. Let me know you still care" - Q's insults to Worf are the funniest lol
Q "What can I do to convince you that I'm moral?"
W: "Die".
Q: "Oh very funny Worf. Eat any good books lately?"
lol! Q performs dry cleaning. Jen’s reaction: “he’s so powerful!” 😂😂😂
Yeah! All the powers he has shown so far and when he removes a stain.
Jen: He IS so powerful!
Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking.
@Valkyrie77 to be fair, some stains require godlike powers to remove.
**cue Q** "That's why I'm here to show you my new entry in the detergent market... Oxi-Q!!"
@@over50gamer that's true! 🤣
He has the power of Tide!
Congratulations to Ensign Gomez. A new character is introduced, they meet a hostile species, and she's still alive when it's over. A rarity in the Trek universe.
Catch her again on Lower Decks.
The actress has an eye-raising role in Verhoevens's Total Recall.
@@EvanJoanette Three's company...
@Evan, fun fact: the same eye raising feature(s) was something Gene also wanted for Troi…
We can probably blame (or thank) Douglas Adam’s however, as he originally had wrote about such things in Hitchhiker’s Guide where he spoke of Eccentrica Gallumbits. I suppose Gallumtits was a little too on the nose so he went with a rhyme.
@@frankiecamacho8739 I only watch real Star Trek produced from 1966 to 2005. NuTrek with JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman can be ignored.
The Borg are among the greatest Star Trek villains, and this is a damn good introduction to them.
The irony of which is that they were developed because of some real world issues pressing on the show. One of them being that the original intent for this bad guy was too expensive, (the parasite bug creatures seen in previous episodes) so they came up with a more cost effective bad guy.
Aye, they're a real raspberry seed in the ol' wisdom tooth, alright.
Unfortunately, the Borg followed the same useage arc taken by many other lovecraftian horrors in hollywood:
1- Introduced as horrifying, unknowable, terrifying
2- Defeated after the cliffhanger in the next season.
3- Repeatedly defeated by all over iterations of the intellectual property.
4- Just another joke to be parodied.
@@anathardayaldar Yes and especially Voyager did them no good. A tactical Cube, which is capable to wipe out entire fleets, attack the Voyager.... Shields at 80%. The Cube fires again: Shields at 79,99%
@@Anthyrion... yeah, VOY made them a bit of a "villain of the week". A standard cube can wipe out entire fleets, Starfleet alone had it done to them twice, a Tactical Cube should have one or two-shotted an Intrepid-class. But plot armour... 🤷♂
I love the Q episodes. It does feel like Q is actually doing humanity a favor at times, despite his disregard for human life, by teaching them hard lessons.
It’s even more than that. Remember, the Borg were already probing the federation’s borders by this point (missing colonies anyone?). What Q did was give Starfleet’s top crew in a ship with some of their most advanced sensors a chance to understand the coming threat and escape with that knowledge. The Continuum would never have let Q save the Federation directly, but he could absolutely play these games.
Q is like Loki. He fancies himself a god, but even he admits at some point the Q are not really deities, just more highly "evolved" than most other species in this galaxy.
Nah, q knows that he isn't a god. He is a strict teacher. What he does in this episode seems evil, horrible and yes people died but if you think about it he probably saved the entire federation from the Borg. If they had not encountered them here so many things would have been different and most importantly a certain Admiral would likely have not survived long enough to perform a certain action. If you know you know.
@@Alucia0 indeed
Q: *Removes a stain.*
Jen: He's so powerful!
A funny story about Whoopi Goldberg: When she was little she was flipping through channels and came across a scene with Uhura. She ran through the house shouting "Mommy come quick, there's a black girl on TV and she ain't no maid".
Please..... Knowing Whoopi that's some woke concocted b.s.
Yep just like taking stealing a jewish name like those who stole their art and gold in Germany.
@@martinmackye9865 Uhh... actually that story's been consistent since she started telling it. I remember hearing that story in the 1990s, so I am confident it's _not_ exaggerated for today. ruclips.net/video/80rv2cSmmYg/видео.html
You walk a verrrry fine line, saying what you just said. If Gene Roddenberry himself didn't find merit in Whoopi Goldberg and her story then, she would _never_ have made it on to _TNG_ in 1988.
_Do not_ equate what she does _today_ with what she did _yesterday._ Saying that people don't change over time... sounds an awful lot like the distant squeals of social media _pigs._
@@martinmackye9865 Nichelle Nichols confirmed it.
@@tremorsfan So... Was she there when it happened??? How does she confirm something she obviously never witnessed?
The story could well be true but Whoopi does have a bit of a history. It's impossible to say if it really happened or not. It'd be like me saying that my first year of Primary School, I wrote a novel. You can't verify if I did or not and you have to take me at my word. If a friend of mine shows up here to say: "Yep. He did" but I didn't even know that friend at the time and they also provide nothing of worth: You can take their testimony with a grain of salt.
That's just how it is, I'm afraid.
Having said that: Tremors is great.
Another classic episode featuring Q and introducing the Borg. Q is mischievous but powerful and the Borg are chilling. When Guinan is shock, you best take notice! 😅
AS a Geologist I love that you called the chunk they took out of the saucer section a core sample. 😄
Are the people in that section dead or ASSIMILATED? I've always assumed the latter.
My take is the Borg already had made contact with both the federation and the romulans and they were already coming. Q just gave the federation a heads up as to what is just around the corner. Q didn’t really speed things up, or at least if he did, it wasn’t by that much.
The die was already shown to be cast earlier in the series.
Although the instigating events of the episode "The Neutral Zone" (the destruction of Federation and Romulan outposts) was originally intended to be caused by the creatures from the previous episode, "Conspiracy", they kinda got retconned into being caused by the Borg. So you're absolutely right, the Borg were already probing the edges of Federation space. The Borg's introduction to the Federation has been retconned quite a bit, actually, but they never invalidate this episode (just Guinan's guess about moving the timeline up).
"I want to see the big baddies " TALLY HO JEN, That's the spirit! 😊
This isn’t just a Q episode, it is THE Q episode that started it all
yep! it all starts here. Previous episodes, ick eeww who cares. NOW we start the show.
@@eolsunder there are several episodes prior to this I liked but nothing like the episodes from this one forward.
Setting up decades of plot
@@midnightbacongaming7039 And retcons.
Remember, the Borg are already scouting around the Neutral Zone (remember what happened to the outposts). This was definitely a "get your head out of your asses" warning by Q.
Exactly the Borg knew about the Federation for a long time Q sending the Enterprise to warn them
Yup, Q is being a big softie, by his own standards, at least.
And why do it any standard way? Why not put the fear into them? It wouldn't be Q if it wasn't flashy and dangerous.
As a kid I got the idea that the Borg were intentionally trying to start a war between the Federation and Romulans. Why else would they destroy just the Neutral Zone outposts and then leave?
@@HawkGTboy I think that's just something that we have the benefit of hindsight. The Borg don't really think in ways like that. They scout, they learn, they overwhelm. It's something we see them doing on a small and a large scale.
I always get a chuckle when Q leaves and Riker suddenly appears in his place with an all disoriented and confused look 😆
In the 80's, when each episode premiered, the Q ones were a highlight and helped pace the show. Having a recurring strong antagonist who could match Patrick Stewart's acting was a great innovation. John de Lancie was an excellent casting choice.
That's why I'm so conflicted about his inclusion in Encounter at Farpoint. On the one hand, his part of the story was shoehorned in practically at the last minute because the studio wanted a double-length premier so the episode works a lot better without all that padding. On the other hand, though, he's a great character, the show and franchise wouldn't have been the same without him, some of the best episodes are Q-based, and he probably wouldn't have existed had he not been inserted into Farpoint.
Finally! This is what I been waiting for!
"Borg? Sounds Swedish."
😂
"Definitely not swedish"
@@mcgilj1 😊👍
"To learn about you is, frankly, provocative. But you're next of kin to chaos." S tier Picard line!
Q's message was also aimed to the present day. Human exploration of the solar system won't be painless or without risk. If you want to stay safe stay in your house with the shades drawn. Don’t expect the wonders and knowledge to come without pain.
Q is always one of my next gen favorites.
One of his best lines in this one " micro brain, growl for me". 😂
"He is so powerful!"
Me, a D&D player, "Prestidigitation is only a cantrip..."
One minor note, when Paramount went back and cleaned up the first two seasons, it seems for this episode they enhanced the special effects so that the Borg effects are more visually consistent with what came after. It's interesting seeing a lot more green in this episode than how it usually airs on television.
The BORG are such great villians.
They are simply RELENTLESS!!!!!
In the first Borg episodes of TNG they were still really threatening and frightening, but especially from Voyager onwards they became a laughing stock and in the Picard series people seem to have completely forgotten what Borg actually are and what abilities they have. The idea of a Borg queen was perhaps still good at the beginning, but it was implemented worse and worse. The Borg in the Delta Quadrant as we know them have existed for at least 1000 years. They already existed when the home of the Vaadwaur was destroyed.
When you first saw Q, this is the episode I couldn't wait for you to see.
Don't know if I've said this in a previous video, but I saw John DeLancie at a small Trek convention on Cape Cod. What a joy he was, talking about Star Trek, show biz, and Hollywood in general. He's a real talent and seemed to be a great guy in real life. He was billed with George Takei, who everyone knows is a great convention speaker.
They were playing 3D chess there at the end.
The Ten Forward scene with Q and Guinan has been a topic of _lots_ of discussion among fans. Q didn't know Guinan was there, which is significant in and of itself. Also, the way Guinan raised her hands when Q threatened to remove her seems to suggest that she has some sort of ability to defend herself against Q's power. On the other hand, she freely admits that her race was scattered and nearly driven to extinction by the Borg, which suggests that they're not all that powerful after all.
Q knew the Borg were poking around in the Neutral Zone, and in his own way, manipulated the Federation into starting to prepare for what will come.
I also think that he wanted them ready for the Spoilers in Deep Space 9
Question is, did he also warn the Romulans?
@@grabtharshammer maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But we'll never know because the tal shiar is better at keeping secrets than the Soviet Union
This is probably the first episode that feels like season 3+ TNG... so much so that I've often looked for it in season 3 before remembering it actually showed up in 2.
Even though it was written by the show Maurice Hurley, who leaves after this season. All I can say is good riddance. One good episode does not forgive a multitude of massive mistakes.
But it will certainly condemn it.
"The hall is rented, the orchestra is engaged, and now it's time to see if you can dance...". Such a great line.
And here’s where the fun begins - you wanted a Bad? Behold, the Weeping Angels of Star Trek.
No, not the weeping angels. They are the Cybermen of the _Star Trek_ universe. Some Whovians accuse TNG of ripping off the Cybermen for the Borg. There's enough room for both.
@@toob1979 I always saw more Klingons = Daleks, Romulans = Cybermen, Borg = Weeping Angels, more based off popularity and time of introduction - Daleks and Cybermen are very classic like Klingons and Romulans, Angels and Borg very new generation.
Yeah, when this first aired, it was definitely a holy-sh*t episode. All anyone could talk about on the old Usenet boards was "when are we going to see them again?" And yes, the score in this one is AMAAAAAAAZING. Q is incredible in this one -- John Delancie is so, so good. He classes up everything he's in. I sometimes call him the American version of Paul Darrow (who you young'uns don't know), and they do have a lot in common, but Star Trek gave Delancie more leeway and room to maneuver than Darrow ever had. He is brilliant in this.
I often think to myself that the reason why Troi entered the bridge so quickly at first and with such a worried expression on her face, immediately asking to speak to Picard, was that she realized she couldn't sense him on the ship anymore. And that she was so disquieted in the conference room scenes because she could sense fear from GUINAN, which she'd never sensed before.
“Go ahead number one…” - “It’s all weird!!” (First Officer Jen Murray reporting)
Best away team report ever! 😂
When you said that Q is mischievous, I suddenly realized that he’s the Loki of Star Trek.
I see him as that or in the same vein as Puck from A Midsummer Night's Dream.
It’s an archetype: trickster god
I see him as a mischievous genie.
Now you know all three people who can make Picard REALLY loose his temper at one point: Q, Lwaxwana Troi and the Borg. :D
With "Measure of a Man," you saw the first great episode of TNG. And this episode marks the point where TNG starts to depart from TOS and put its own stamp on the Star Trek universe. If you go through the remaining S.T. series (DS9, Voyager, Enterprise), this episode leave its mark on all that comes after.
"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE"
If you only knew the power of the dark... oops... wrong franchise...
@@havok6280the schwartz?
Captain, they’ve adapted!
WE HAVE ANALYZED YOUR CAPABILITIES AS UNABLE TO WITHSTAND US. IF YOU ATTEMPT TO DEFEND YOURSELVES YOU WILL BE PUNISHED.
Your technological and biological distinctiveness will be added to our own you will service us. Resistance is futile.
Don't forget that Borg Cube is 3x3x3km. That's 1.8x1.8x1.8 miles. It is a very very large ship and full of borg.
This is the moment where this series took a huge leap forward... I was kind of an ambivalent watcher of the series as a teen (it was my dad's show), but this episode hooked me and the show became must-watch TV. I love Guinan, Q and the new baddies.
The Borg are developed and retconned and developed some more over the following ~10 years and several more series and movies, including their motives.
Q is not a physical being at all. He's from outside our universe, so he's from outside our concepts of space and time. He's also a super important frenemy throughout the remainder of the franchise.
This episode was a treat, with both Q and the Borg in it!
Sh*t just got real! 😂 So... Now you know what the Borg are. And as per your reaction you get how formidable and unsettling they are as opponents for our Galant crew aboard the Enterprise and the Federation as a whole. I know that in this episode when I watched as a kid they creeped me out. The Borg being inferred in season one and their introduction in season two really makes it impossible to just skip to season three.
This one really expands THE LORE by a lot. Guinan, Q, new antagonists... And it's a crackerjack season two episode on top of it.
Great reaction, and happy you "get" the Borg. It's no spoiler we will be seeing them again for sure in the future.
Poor Sonya had that 'Please, just kill me now' look on her face after Geordie left.
The Borg cube is 3037 meters in height and 3037 meters in length with a crew compliment of up to 130.000 🤯🤯
Just over nine feet by nine feet? with 130 crew? I think you miscalculate
@@grabtharshammer If you're an American, remove the decimal points.
@@grabtharshammer I think you didn't learn much in school!
@@RandomNPC001 I think you edited your first post to make it make sense, by removing the full stops
When I first saw all of Season 2 on the late New TNN Network, I've never quite noticed the difference in Data's eye color until this particular. Which in my opinion looks a whole lot better than the other eye color he's used during the first 15 episodes of the season. Lol
❤ Q's back, the absorbent Borg introduced, and an exciting new engineer. Good stuff Maynard!
“Con permiso, Captain. The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged. It’s now time to see if you can dance . . . “
Hah. Good one.
U summed it up.
The episode got nominated for visual effects.
3 dimensional chess. Spock played it in tos
That wasn't Tri Dimensional Chess. Not enough boards, and the piece placements are circles not checked.
@@3Rayfire oh well I have seen a variety of chess sets with difference from classic pieces and boards. Perhaps it's that ? It's doubt its tri d checkers
OHHHH MAN! Been waiting with held breath for you to get to this one.
I love it when Jen predicts that "Q better not mess with Guinan."
LOL, Zoom Enhance and Commercial Break need to be on Jen Merch.
This was Q becoming way more threatening and of an advisory than the last time he showed up. And it's all due to John DeLancie standing his ground with the director and talling him that Q would have no reason to get defensive or to have been overly jovial like was in the Riker Q episode. DeLancie wasted to play Q as a real warning to the Trek crew that they really aren't as prepared as they thought they were for what's out there. And lead to one of my favorite Q lines about it not being safe out here and if you can't handle loss you better go home and hide under the bed. GREAT episode. one of the best things TNG ever did.
Q is basically the Loki of Star Trek
The introduction of the Borg here will be the best villain introduction in Star Trek for years until the introduction of the Dominion on DS9.
"what are they playing?" Tridimensional Chess.
This episode, and the Borg in general were the answers to the criticisms made when the Ferengi were introduced.
"I wanna see the big baddies." Welp. Can't overstate the significance of this one on the future of Star Trek. You are in for a long, exciting ride with some great highs and a few lows. If you're still in S3 on your watchthrough, you're so very close. If you finished it by now then you know. Excited to be a part of your discovery of these iconic Trek moments.
This Borg episode changed the trajectory of the franchise from this episode forward. You've asked great questions and, if you carry on with the future different upcoming series ( especially Voyager) your Borg questions will be answered, but over many more shows and movies. It's quite a story and quite a gift to the franchise.
Good job on picking up that connection, Jen. Most people on their first watch through don't recognize the fact that this episode was supposed to link with the Season 1 finale The Neutral Zone and that the Borg were the ones responsible for the destruction of the Federation and Romulan outposts on either side of the NZ.
The Neutral Zone
WORF: The outpost was not just destroyed, it's as though some great force just scooped it off the face of the planet.
Q Who
WORF: It is as though some great force just scooped all the machine elements off the face of the planet.
DATA: It is identical to what happened to the outposts along the Neutral Zone.
To go further into the production, the Borg were originally going to be insectoid. The penultimate episode of season one Conspiracy had the small alien creatures that took over some of Starfleet's highest ranks, in the end we saw that they were transmitting some kind of homing beacon. This was the first clue dropped about the new big bad that the writers were developing, the second being the unnamed enemies in The Neutral Zone. In between seasons there was a writer's strike and then budgetary concerns that shifted the new enemy from expensive, hard to produce effects for an insectoid race to the humanoids in greige turtlenecks that would become the Borg, their "hivemind" being the only remaining remnant of the original insectoid idea. It's strange to think how different one of Star Trek's biggest races could have ended up, but they do say that limitations breed creativity and I think it was for the best here.
That sums up most alien races in star trek, having actual alien physiology is a strain on budgets. That’s why TOS is filled with repurposed costumes from other productions; space greeks, space fascists, space cowboys, space gladiators. Then it’s humans with prosthetics on foreheads, just alien enough to get the point across
Thank you for this. Joy to see. Welcome to the Borg.
"What are they playing? Space chess?"
3D chess. A callback to TOS. (Spock played Kirk in at least one episode.)
I grew up watching this show, and this episode to me was a turning point for the show. I think fans loved the borg as the new "big bad". They became the enemy in multiple series and the movies.
It's really a pleasure to see Jen proving that this show is a CLASSIC for a reason! The Trek scuttlebutt is that the TNG cast and crew had a lot of fun making this show!
Love the content Jen, all the reactions! ❤️🙏🏽🥰🖖🏽 Love your musical flair 🎼🎸🎺🎹 I recommend The Last Starfighter and Willow, both have beautiful scores 😊✌🏽❤️ Keep it up! ☀️
Thank you!! You are in luck -- The Last Starfighter is posting tomorrow! It's so much fun 😊😊
Glad you've reached this episode, for me this is where the show really gets interesting.
"He’s so Powerful!" 1:40 He can even get hot chocolate out of the Captain’s uniform stain!
Q Who was THE episode back in 1989 that took me from on the fence about TNG to "OK. This show is legit". Before this, I had seen a few episodes that were really good but not quite enough to make up for all the ones that didn't impress me at all. This episode was mindblowing in 1989. I mean, it didn't take much to blow my mind in 1989 but still.
I still feel like it's the best Borg episode just because if they hadn't gotten this one just perfect, it probably wouldn't have worked as well as it did for sucking the world fully into TNG. It's still amazing watching it now. How it just feels like they knew exactly what they had when they made it.
'Q Who' and 'Measure of a Man' were the episodes that "kicked me in my ambivalence" about this new Trek show.
I couldnt wait for you to get to this episode and meet the BORG, I absolutely love your reactions Jen.
So now you've passed a big milestone on your TNG (TNJ?) journey, Jen, you've met the Borg. It's great fun riding along with you. At one point today you talked about the show getting your wheels turning, which is so fun, because you always have something insightful to say. Thanks!
Hey Jen! Always a pleasure to see a new Star Trek reaction from you. You are the cutest science officer 💙
I enjoyed Star Trek The next generation. My grandson loves it and he asked me if I could get a Federation Starship for his birthday! He is smart for a 5 year old. The special effects were fantastic. Star Trek will last forever.
Reminds me of seeing the Playmates Ent-D from Generations in Toy's R Us as a kid. With detachable battle damage pieces. Man, I wanted that but I my dad wasn't particularly keen on the price tag.
"Riker probably thinks he just went off for a quickie."
This is why Trek Sundays with Jen are awesome.
To answer your question, implied is the correct form in this case. To infer is to draw a conclusion. To imply is to indirectly suggest a conclusion.
Such a good episode! A good introduction to a new threat with a serious tone, thrown in with Q's usual craziness make this a fun one one to rewatch.
Epic reaction as always Jen!!!
The Borg... quite possibly my favourite thing in all of Star Trek. I'm so hyped for what's to come on your Trek journey!
oh cool..we have engaged the BORG
Sounds swedish...
"In a 2012 interview with Vulture, Lycia Naff revealed that her character, Ensign Gomez, was meant to be a love interest for Geordi, but this plot was dropped due to feedback from fans and producers."
Probably an unpopular opinion - but Q was helping the Federation by doing this to the Enterprise. Q knew the Borg were coming (e.g. the Federation and Roman outposts on the edge of the neutral zone had already been consumed and investigated by the Borg), and the Borg would be in Federation territory soon - but they had to be warned and shown just exactly what they were up against, to give them some time to defend themselves.
Not an unpopular opinion at all. Q is antagonistic and likes to remind the humans of how weak and dumb they are, but he also likes to help them in his own way, or at least help them challenge their own assumptions. This is a common theme in Q episodes.
I think, longer term, he was also helping with the Spoilers in Deep Space 9
The Borg were coming from the delta quadrant and have to travel through the beta quadrant to reach the neutral zone but something ( maybe the Hansen's) peaked their interest .
@@MartinCox-ny2rv Most fan theories I've read had it as the _Raven_ and also receiving the signal from the Drones they found in the Arctic. If anything, Q's actions here kept the timeline from unraveling before anyone had the means to prevent it.
Seeing this when I was a kid I remember thinking Q did the wrong thing. Knowing what I know now I feel the opposite. Q saved so many lives with his actions here preparing Starfleet for the future conflicts to come. If anything I would say we should thank Q.
This is the introduction. The Borg weren't aware of Starfleet, The Federation, Earth or even the alpha quadrant until Q made the introduction.
No that’s wrong I am afraid the Borg have been aware of Earth and the Federation for some time remember they attacked the outposts along the neutral zone and something else that made them aware actually 2 things but I can’t say because that would be spoilers for other Trek shows
Yup. This isn't the Borg's first introduction to humanity. Maybe just the most formal. I like what that particular episode did, it cast a lingering shadow over humanity leading up to Q Who.
Who would have thought that this episode kicks off one of the most iconic villains of modern Trek and that nearly every show after encounters them in one form or has some elements influenced by them.
TOS! Where no man has gone before. also five year mission!
TNG. WE’RE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE AND IT’S CONTINUING MISSION!
(Not yelling, caps-lock stuck ) ps “taking a core sample!” I’m impressed! Almost no one knows that!
4:45 Guinan has powers of perception and wisdom, but nothing more.
Believe me, not all the preparation in the galaxy will be able to stop the Borg, but resisting them will be a great battle.
Q is the Catalyst for Star Trek TNG, he has All the Best Episodes or initiates All the Best Episodes
Maybe most, but not all.
Finally one of the good episodes. The Borg are awesome adversaries.
Jen, I find I'm tuning into these reactions of yours with comparable excitement to when new eps of the TNG were dropping. Imho, you're the best thing to happen to the ST franchise since the shows (the good ones) were still on the air.
Aw thanks! I'm always excited to watch more Trek 🖖☺️
@@jenmurrayxo Hey Jen! Uh... Can you adjust the location of your communicator pin LoL!
It should be 2" lower and 3" to the left.
"It's NOT SAFE out here!"
The Borg are so badass that they can inspire a theatrical adaptation of one of Superman's enemies called Brainiac.
Probably the best episode of early TNG. Gave us a great introduction to TNG’s own big bad.
You're getting me to love a good "Zoom-enhance!" 😊
LIke Q Said, The klingons, thje Romulans, the Ferengi..NOTHING COMPARED THE BORG!!! You wantd to meet the big badies...Well, meet the Big Bad Wolf of Star Trek! !!!
The Bord... Basically Cybermen, but with a good budget! (In comparison to 1980's Doctor Who, at least...)
This was originally the second part of Time Squared. That's the reason Picard ends up in a shuttle alone in both and why what occurred there went unexplained.
Seeing as how Sunday is laundry day around here, thanks to Jen, I'm feeling just a little Q-like today.
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0:12 Jen trying to stay on the machines' good side. 🤣
So looking forward to Q's next appearance.. such a great episode, of which he was a part of so many of them . De Lancie is just so fun in the role
Such a cool episode! You've finally been introduced to the Borg X) Star Trek only gets better from here! :D
They were playing Tridimenional Chess, more commonly referred to as 3D Chess. It was introduced in the first season of the original Star Trek, and seen in several episodes of that series (usually we see Spock playing it). I don't think the series ever set up any rules for how to play it, but I think fans eventually did and you can buy 3D chess sets online (but they are pricey). I've never owned one, but they are pretty to look at. :)
The Borg are worse than you imagine. They make the future terrifying.
So creepy are the Borg. First time I believe that I felt Picard and crew truly list, and only Q saved them. Cutting up of the Enterprise still gives me chills.
Always enjoying your intro!! Been waiting for this episode!! My top 10 episodes easily! The Q monologue, awesome!! Just realizing the last time I seen this episode was on a regular analog 32" TV!!! Wow time has transported by. Great Job Jennway!! Peace 🕊️☮️♾️😎
" NO DEFENSE
MAY BE ADEQUATE
AGAINST THIS ENEMY "
We have engaged the Borg! Yes i am so ready to get into the rest of the series! Q is such a son of a Q! And that reveal of Guinan an Imp... What? Im so ready for more! Thanks for sharing Jen ❤️💛 Engage...
1:39
Q: **cleans uniform**
Jen: "He is so powerful!"