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  • @FunkyFurret
    @FunkyFurret Месяц назад +72

    i doubt it's over

  • @rrogersyt
    @rrogersyt Месяц назад +28

    To summarize most of this episode, tech companies don't understand what normal people will use past the initial release.

    • @LiveLifeWithLove
      @LiveLifeWithLove Месяц назад

      For instance I use Amazon app new AI chat bot to help in my assignments 😅 its responses are good . Never used it to ask for Amazon products

  • @benavides0308
    @benavides0308 Месяц назад +5

    Hello, I’m the Samsung ecosystem person. Z Flip 6, Samsung laptop, Samsung watch and numerous appliances and TVs. To steal from another group - it all just works.

  • @mon699
    @mon699 Месяц назад +11

    “1% is 10 million people” I keep underestimating the size of Microsoft

  • @itschrishuerta
    @itschrishuerta Месяц назад +22

    We use Alexa to play animal sounds for our toddler.
    One time we asked for a Koala sound and Alexa responded with: “the koala is part of the premium sound package. Would you like to buy it?”
    No. No I do not.

    • @GoodBaleadaMusic
      @GoodBaleadaMusic Месяц назад

      This totally gives everyone faith in your toddlers adult life.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 Месяц назад

      well, if it's a third party app ... the koalas have to get paid somehow

    • @GoodBaleadaMusic
      @GoodBaleadaMusic Месяц назад

      @@alainportant6412 like autotune?

    • @GoodBaleadaMusic
      @GoodBaleadaMusic Месяц назад

      @@alainportant6412 guitar pedal makers get nuthin and that needs to change. they literally make the music.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 Месяц назад

      @@GoodBaleadaMusic guitar pedals are inanimate objects not a pet

  • @niteshbaskaran2262
    @niteshbaskaran2262 Месяц назад +22

    AI search is not a replacement for Google. A Google search provides you broad context about a topic. Everything that is associated with your search terms. It also directs you to reliable sources of information where there is 0% chance of hallucination. At best it is a complementary service.

    • @Yash.027
      @Yash.027 Месяц назад +2

      You are wrong this time.
      Watch the video at 11:37

  • @josh_wags
    @josh_wags Месяц назад +4

    More Jake please!

  • @jackreacher4547
    @jackreacher4547 Месяц назад +39

    Lol just like how bing was going to kill google

    • @17srijith
      @17srijith Месяц назад

      I think more than killing google, this will probably cause google to make more drastic changes to their search, that it we will be in a new search paradigm.

  • @kryptopro1
    @kryptopro1 Месяц назад +2

    Owner of a Z Fold 3 here. ALSO daily drive iPhone 12 mini. The Fold is what I wanted the iPad Mini to be. It's a tablet that can fit in my pocket and has mobile data. Whenever I want to consume media whether it's books, games, or other content, it's incredible on Fold. I barely ever use the cover screen. But I also don't take it everywhere I go. As a communication device, the little iPhone is much better. Disappears into pockets. The Fold has held up well and I almost didn't upgrade. But 3 iterations later the level of polish that the Z Fold 6 has is something that is best experienced in person. The feel of the device in the hand is better than the specs would indicate. The cover screen is now about the same level of width as my iphone mini. And Samsung does not mess around with trade-in deals.
    TLDR: I don't like the Fold as a phone. But as a niche luxury content-consuming device, there is nothing better for me. The upgrade has diminishing returns to that luxury, but they are returns.

  • @DuvJones
    @DuvJones Месяц назад +5

    I think the thing that I'm a little confused over is this. Despite the fact that Google called itself a search company, it's not... It's an Ad Network, and the primary way that Google funds itself is through AdSense.
    And to be blunt, OpenAI has simply not thought this far... And not understanding what business Google is actually in, will likely lead it to failure.

    • @jkb462
      @jkb462 Месяц назад

      Are you saying you think some of the smartest people in the world havent thought of this? They know how google makes money.

  • @redjules1215
    @redjules1215 Месяц назад +5

    Who's not opening their foldable phone? I open mine all the time. I stopped using my tablet. Seems odd to me.

    • @RobAlfieInostrozaLindley
      @RobAlfieInostrozaLindley Месяц назад

      Exaaaactly. And yes we are used to using phones like phones but we also know how to use tablets and so we use it as a tablet😅

  • @EK-hd7fr
    @EK-hd7fr Месяц назад +30

    Gemini says it can't set my alarm, I need to use the clock app instead ... It definitely is over 😅

    • @TheCybervoyeur
      @TheCybervoyeur Месяц назад

      The f***?!? That's wild. I'm surprised it's so useless at this point in time.

    • @yushpeaceandlove
      @yushpeaceandlove Месяц назад +3

      It's not and it can do way more than set your alarm.

    • @EK-hd7fr
      @EK-hd7fr Месяц назад

      @@yushpeaceandlove Google fandom is big in India ... Just ask it yourself to see ;)

    • @MaxArthey
      @MaxArthey Месяц назад

      And ChatGPT can't do it either so....

  • @janmacarol
    @janmacarol Месяц назад

    OpenAI's introduction of Search GPT might seem like a grand revelation, but in reality, many users have already been leveraging custom GPT models for similar tasks. These custom GPTs aggregate news from various sources, identify common threads, and synthesize comprehensive summaries. Imagine a custom GPT that consistently checks at least five sources before spitting out a cohesive answer - that's the essence of what we're talking about. Essentially, OpenAI is taking what savvy users have been doing and packaging it with a more polished user experience.

  • @U2haveanicedayty2
    @U2haveanicedayty2 Месяц назад

    Love the Verge.Definately waiting for next one.Thank you guy's.💯✌️

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 Месяц назад

    Finally, it's a video podcast. I skipped the audio podcasts that this channel made in the past.

  • @JesseLira
    @JesseLira Месяц назад +3

    Doesn’t Perplexity already do this? I use it all the time.

  • @HerbertHerbertsson
    @HerbertHerbertsson Месяц назад +1

    Nilay saying he's 42 years old made me feel younger than ever :)

  • @jakefehrman9881
    @jakefehrman9881 Месяц назад +3

    Doubt

  • @jeanbutinfrench
    @jeanbutinfrench Месяц назад +1

    I like this other guy, the “tell me about the leg” was a nice counter snark against snark

  • @christophernoto
    @christophernoto Месяц назад

    You keep moving my TRS-80 Model 100! It still, though, makes me happy to see it, every time. ❤

  • @sparkleglitch13
    @sparkleglitch13 Месяц назад

    Re: aspect ratios for folding phones, 1:2 would be cool, as then it’s 1:1 when opened

  • @_sophies
    @_sophies Месяц назад

    Regarding rating movies by how you should see them, the top rating of a reviewer I used to watch called JeremyJahns was "buy it on Blu-ray" with "buy it on DVD" below that

  • @handlewastaken
    @handlewastaken Месяц назад

    16:28 I believe having these sorts of “priority” established and professional sources vastly improves the quality (or at least perceived quality) of a service with quality, encyclopedic data

  • @6lack5ushi
    @6lack5ushi Месяц назад +1

    Search is such a harder problem

  • @ricosrealm
    @ricosrealm Месяц назад +1

    Doubtful. Google has been providing similar features in their search engine with their generative AI results. I've have been using these for months and they are concise and useful while still providing the full context search results.

  • @RobAlfieInostrozaLindley
    @RobAlfieInostrozaLindley Месяц назад

    Actually I use my foldable phone with the internal screen more. It is like having a mini tablet in your pocket and it's just so much better for typing, watching videos, editing, reading, searching Etc😊

  • @gr81matt
    @gr81matt Месяц назад

    I ended up downgrading my Max to be part of this bundle (already had the Hulu/D+ bundle). Saved $10 a month or so. This doesn't effect me too much as it's mostly my kid that watches these.

  • @maikaimakena9424
    @maikaimakena9424 Месяц назад

    Great conversation

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 Месяц назад

    About the Alexa segment:
    Consumers are the ones who decide how to use it, not the company.
    Rabbit was the same deal, they were hoping consumers would buy it and figure out its purpose, and it turned out to be just an app.
    All these companies are forgetting that necessity is the mother of invention. Without necessity, the product is motherless, and therefore a bastard.

  • @bc24us
    @bc24us Месяц назад

    The problem I have with RAG is that the summary often contradicts the links. So I cannot trust it so you might as well just give me links … and we are back to regular search

  • @nickthaskater
    @nickthaskater Месяц назад

    35:47 literally the most useful and reliable things Google Home do for me are 1) turn on and off my TV, 2) turn on and off my air conditioner. That's it. Nothing about that requires AI, and honestly it worked *more* reliably a few years ago than it does now.

  • @MykeBatez
    @MykeBatez Месяц назад

    I still think to Big Papa Joe & Touchwiz when a “Galaxy Fan” comes to mind.

  • @keplerlafayette7870
    @keplerlafayette7870 Месяц назад +1

    1:09:45 it isnt about the option between Google or Apple Maps because there's Waze, more popular than Google Maps at least in Brazil

    • @DanSwain
      @DanSwain Месяц назад +1

      Don't Google own Waze ?

    • @keplerlafayette7870
      @keplerlafayette7870 Месяц назад +1

      @@DanSwain it does and i didn't know! thanks

  • @V3lie
    @V3lie Месяц назад +1

    David "I think" Pierce.

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 Месяц назад

    Necessity is the mother of invention.

  • @JoshsBookishVoyage
    @JoshsBookishVoyage Месяц назад

    I don't put much stock into my sleep score, but I like to track the time and length of my sleep with my watch.

  • @MattSwain1
    @MattSwain1 Месяц назад

    People might be happier ordering stuff via Alexa if Amazon itself wasn’t such a jumble sale. You can be really quite precise when you search for stuff on Amazon and it will still offer you some sponsored off-brand knock-offs ahead of what you actually asked for. What’s the odds that when ordering by voice alone you’d get what you actually wanted versus something that looks similar but might burn your house down instead?

  • @King_Slime1xp
    @King_Slime1xp Месяц назад

    No mention of search gpt actually providing incorrect info regarding the music festivals?

  • @Teddward
    @Teddward Месяц назад

    Today I learned that me and Nelay use the same Alarm app and I could not validated as a nerd

  • @davidgillham5302
    @davidgillham5302 Месяц назад

    Only 11 mins in but surprised they’ve not mentioned perplexity yet…

  • @RoqueSantosJunior
    @RoqueSantosJunior Месяц назад

    I am a pilot and I don’t use an iPad Mini.

  • @Morya58
    @Morya58 Месяц назад

    57:03 I do use both dex from phone and the tablet. I have the galaxy watch. I won't be getting a new one. And I got rid of the galaxy buds pro 2.

  • @Misterdavidc
    @Misterdavidc Месяц назад +1

    Can I pay for sponsorship with Kohl’s cash?

  • @andrewg4153
    @andrewg4153 Месяц назад

    "David and the Pilots" is a decent band name.

  • @johchadow
    @johchadow Месяц назад

    As much as I don't (want to) like the Echo devices, they do work very well for home automation, better than Google Home devices by a lot from my experience with both. Google has always had long delays and failures to do the asked task where Alexa just does it and very quickly.

  • @marc.roelofs
    @marc.roelofs Месяц назад +2

    Why do you always laugh in a creepy way whenever the EU is mentioned?

  • @KhayTaing
    @KhayTaing Месяц назад

    What ever happened to Scissor Vodka? Was there some controversy I missed, and they were canceled?

  • @neight123
    @neight123 Месяц назад

    The not lightning round lightning rounds are the best.

  • @em.a.httpss
    @em.a.httpss Месяц назад

    Can’t wait for search gpt to spit out a list of non existent musicians playing at non existent venues, ahaha

  • @saminnippon
    @saminnippon Месяц назад +1

    obligatory david thirst comment

  • @bengurwell1500
    @bengurwell1500 Месяц назад

    Sweet, a search engine with answers we can trust even less than the random strangers on the internet from which it has aped all information it has with no ability to discern.

  • @boyegaaa
    @boyegaaa Месяц назад

    "Kudos to Jesús" 1:02:30 🤣

  • @user-ve8zm6fs4y
    @user-ve8zm6fs4y Месяц назад

    Lol Perplexity was there before SearchGPT

  • @Ressard
    @Ressard Месяц назад

    Jake!🙌🏿

  • @hatemsteve8315
    @hatemsteve8315 Месяц назад +1

    Long way before its over

  • @jongalloway726
    @jongalloway726 Месяц назад +1

    Think Amazon should do a deal with OpenAI. The device is already in homes, the new Chatgpt 4o with its new voice would revolutionise the product immediately.

    • @alezanders
      @alezanders Месяц назад +1

      It would give it a facelift but it still wouldn’t have a purpose other than a super accessible timer, weather app, and a few other fringe things

  • @thepopmanbrad
    @thepopmanbrad 15 дней назад

    literally all apple needs to do is make a foldable phone and perect it and if they do it well then bam everyone is gonna switch to foldable / flip phones cause its just better

  • @_jerieljan
    @_jerieljan Месяц назад

    When it comes to learning and research for topics - sure, but even then, not all the time.
    Dethroning Google takes a lot more effort on user experience and speed and practicality.
    Most people use Google for a lot of other things. Things that AI is actually totally unnecessary.
    Most of my use on Google is around:
    - getting to a site or a subtopic of a site, and actually using the site. Like looking for flights, or a specific section of a wiki. Or a product page's tech specs, etc.
    - lazy bookmarking - I know the site, but I don't bookmark it, and sometimes, it's easier to just Google
    - the minor things that Google had implemented over time, like currency conversion, weather, etc
    - quick skimming of info just by looking at the top results
    I'd only believe SearchGPT or whatever beating Google once it's actually blazing fast. Even with the speed improvements out there, it's still *slow* in comparison. Slow as in "I've already read and learned the top results before GPT-4o could even print the first sentence" slow.
    Of course, this changes entirely if Google uses their AI stuff fulltime because it'll kill the good things in Google Search instead

  • @hpsn5108
    @hpsn5108 Месяц назад

    Dieter is not gonna like this 😂😂😂

  • @lawlelo
    @lawlelo Месяц назад

    The host sounds like Joe Rogan 😂

  • @danieladdled
    @danieladdled Месяц назад

    You can tell somebody is trapped in a tech bubble if they think this sounds like a useful idea.

  • @samskyset
    @samskyset Месяц назад

    The only thing I fear regarding OpenAI competing with Google is that their strongest product, a tool to parse and generate language, actually solves Google's biggest issue: automatically understanding what kinds of answers people want. This is unusual, because LLMs are profoundly useless in many other situations. How they differentiate themselves from Bing and don't implode legally will be a spectacle no matter what though lol

    • @ea_naseer
      @ea_naseer Месяц назад

      samsung designs apple screens and their own... they'll survive this if they play it right

  • @DinkoDarlinn
    @DinkoDarlinn Месяц назад

    don't they (pilots) have to turn their ipads off on take offs and landings like all of us ? won't those planes starting to fall from the skies? wtf is going on?? are they lying to us?? 🥳

  • @ironspider9280
    @ironspider9280 Месяц назад

    This reminds me of Google+ and how everyone thought it would destroy Facebook...

  • @eyeofrage7025
    @eyeofrage7025 Месяц назад

    Does the Verge support race baiting in general ?

  • @ssaini5028
    @ssaini5028 Месяц назад

    Gemini's biggest issue is being woke

  • @kings_chronicle592
    @kings_chronicle592 Месяц назад

    Not by a longshot the world needs Google and Android.i for one prefer android than IOS.

  • @kings_chronicle592
    @kings_chronicle592 Месяц назад

    Haha and there is no way a AI company would beat out google the world is larger than north america.and the rest of the world prefers Google.

  • @davidgillham5302
    @davidgillham5302 Месяц назад

    Only 11 mins in but surprised they’ve not mentioned perplexity yet…