Hello, I’m the Samsung ecosystem person. Z Flip 6, Samsung laptop, Samsung watch and numerous appliances and TVs. To steal from another group - it all just works.
We use Alexa to play animal sounds for our toddler. One time we asked for a Koala sound and Alexa responded with: “the koala is part of the premium sound package. Would you like to buy it?” No. No I do not.
AI search is not a replacement for Google. A Google search provides you broad context about a topic. Everything that is associated with your search terms. It also directs you to reliable sources of information where there is 0% chance of hallucination. At best it is a complementary service.
I think more than killing google, this will probably cause google to make more drastic changes to their search, that it we will be in a new search paradigm.
Owner of a Z Fold 3 here. ALSO daily drive iPhone 12 mini. The Fold is what I wanted the iPad Mini to be. It's a tablet that can fit in my pocket and has mobile data. Whenever I want to consume media whether it's books, games, or other content, it's incredible on Fold. I barely ever use the cover screen. But I also don't take it everywhere I go. As a communication device, the little iPhone is much better. Disappears into pockets. The Fold has held up well and I almost didn't upgrade. But 3 iterations later the level of polish that the Z Fold 6 has is something that is best experienced in person. The feel of the device in the hand is better than the specs would indicate. The cover screen is now about the same level of width as my iphone mini. And Samsung does not mess around with trade-in deals. TLDR: I don't like the Fold as a phone. But as a niche luxury content-consuming device, there is nothing better for me. The upgrade has diminishing returns to that luxury, but they are returns.
I think the thing that I'm a little confused over is this. Despite the fact that Google called itself a search company, it's not... It's an Ad Network, and the primary way that Google funds itself is through AdSense. And to be blunt, OpenAI has simply not thought this far... And not understanding what business Google is actually in, will likely lead it to failure.
OpenAI's introduction of Search GPT might seem like a grand revelation, but in reality, many users have already been leveraging custom GPT models for similar tasks. These custom GPTs aggregate news from various sources, identify common threads, and synthesize comprehensive summaries. Imagine a custom GPT that consistently checks at least five sources before spitting out a cohesive answer - that's the essence of what we're talking about. Essentially, OpenAI is taking what savvy users have been doing and packaging it with a more polished user experience.
Regarding rating movies by how you should see them, the top rating of a reviewer I used to watch called JeremyJahns was "buy it on Blu-ray" with "buy it on DVD" below that
16:28 I believe having these sorts of “priority” established and professional sources vastly improves the quality (or at least perceived quality) of a service with quality, encyclopedic data
Doubtful. Google has been providing similar features in their search engine with their generative AI results. I've have been using these for months and they are concise and useful while still providing the full context search results.
Actually I use my foldable phone with the internal screen more. It is like having a mini tablet in your pocket and it's just so much better for typing, watching videos, editing, reading, searching Etc😊
I ended up downgrading my Max to be part of this bundle (already had the Hulu/D+ bundle). Saved $10 a month or so. This doesn't effect me too much as it's mostly my kid that watches these.
About the Alexa segment: Consumers are the ones who decide how to use it, not the company. Rabbit was the same deal, they were hoping consumers would buy it and figure out its purpose, and it turned out to be just an app. All these companies are forgetting that necessity is the mother of invention. Without necessity, the product is motherless, and therefore a bastard.
The problem I have with RAG is that the summary often contradicts the links. So I cannot trust it so you might as well just give me links … and we are back to regular search
35:47 literally the most useful and reliable things Google Home do for me are 1) turn on and off my TV, 2) turn on and off my air conditioner. That's it. Nothing about that requires AI, and honestly it worked *more* reliably a few years ago than it does now.
People might be happier ordering stuff via Alexa if Amazon itself wasn’t such a jumble sale. You can be really quite precise when you search for stuff on Amazon and it will still offer you some sponsored off-brand knock-offs ahead of what you actually asked for. What’s the odds that when ordering by voice alone you’d get what you actually wanted versus something that looks similar but might burn your house down instead?
As much as I don't (want to) like the Echo devices, they do work very well for home automation, better than Google Home devices by a lot from my experience with both. Google has always had long delays and failures to do the asked task where Alexa just does it and very quickly.
Sweet, a search engine with answers we can trust even less than the random strangers on the internet from which it has aped all information it has with no ability to discern.
Think Amazon should do a deal with OpenAI. The device is already in homes, the new Chatgpt 4o with its new voice would revolutionise the product immediately.
literally all apple needs to do is make a foldable phone and perect it and if they do it well then bam everyone is gonna switch to foldable / flip phones cause its just better
When it comes to learning and research for topics - sure, but even then, not all the time. Dethroning Google takes a lot more effort on user experience and speed and practicality. Most people use Google for a lot of other things. Things that AI is actually totally unnecessary. Most of my use on Google is around: - getting to a site or a subtopic of a site, and actually using the site. Like looking for flights, or a specific section of a wiki. Or a product page's tech specs, etc. - lazy bookmarking - I know the site, but I don't bookmark it, and sometimes, it's easier to just Google - the minor things that Google had implemented over time, like currency conversion, weather, etc - quick skimming of info just by looking at the top results I'd only believe SearchGPT or whatever beating Google once it's actually blazing fast. Even with the speed improvements out there, it's still *slow* in comparison. Slow as in "I've already read and learned the top results before GPT-4o could even print the first sentence" slow. Of course, this changes entirely if Google uses their AI stuff fulltime because it'll kill the good things in Google Search instead
The only thing I fear regarding OpenAI competing with Google is that their strongest product, a tool to parse and generate language, actually solves Google's biggest issue: automatically understanding what kinds of answers people want. This is unusual, because LLMs are profoundly useless in many other situations. How they differentiate themselves from Bing and don't implode legally will be a spectacle no matter what though lol
don't they (pilots) have to turn their ipads off on take offs and landings like all of us ? won't those planes starting to fall from the skies? wtf is going on?? are they lying to us?? 🥳
i doubt it's over
To summarize most of this episode, tech companies don't understand what normal people will use past the initial release.
For instance I use Amazon app new AI chat bot to help in my assignments 😅 its responses are good . Never used it to ask for Amazon products
Hello, I’m the Samsung ecosystem person. Z Flip 6, Samsung laptop, Samsung watch and numerous appliances and TVs. To steal from another group - it all just works.
“1% is 10 million people” I keep underestimating the size of Microsoft
We use Alexa to play animal sounds for our toddler.
One time we asked for a Koala sound and Alexa responded with: “the koala is part of the premium sound package. Would you like to buy it?”
No. No I do not.
This totally gives everyone faith in your toddlers adult life.
well, if it's a third party app ... the koalas have to get paid somehow
@@alainportant6412 like autotune?
@@alainportant6412 guitar pedal makers get nuthin and that needs to change. they literally make the music.
@@GoodBaleadaMusic guitar pedals are inanimate objects not a pet
AI search is not a replacement for Google. A Google search provides you broad context about a topic. Everything that is associated with your search terms. It also directs you to reliable sources of information where there is 0% chance of hallucination. At best it is a complementary service.
You are wrong this time.
Watch the video at 11:37
More Jake please!
Lol just like how bing was going to kill google
I think more than killing google, this will probably cause google to make more drastic changes to their search, that it we will be in a new search paradigm.
Owner of a Z Fold 3 here. ALSO daily drive iPhone 12 mini. The Fold is what I wanted the iPad Mini to be. It's a tablet that can fit in my pocket and has mobile data. Whenever I want to consume media whether it's books, games, or other content, it's incredible on Fold. I barely ever use the cover screen. But I also don't take it everywhere I go. As a communication device, the little iPhone is much better. Disappears into pockets. The Fold has held up well and I almost didn't upgrade. But 3 iterations later the level of polish that the Z Fold 6 has is something that is best experienced in person. The feel of the device in the hand is better than the specs would indicate. The cover screen is now about the same level of width as my iphone mini. And Samsung does not mess around with trade-in deals.
TLDR: I don't like the Fold as a phone. But as a niche luxury content-consuming device, there is nothing better for me. The upgrade has diminishing returns to that luxury, but they are returns.
I think the thing that I'm a little confused over is this. Despite the fact that Google called itself a search company, it's not... It's an Ad Network, and the primary way that Google funds itself is through AdSense.
And to be blunt, OpenAI has simply not thought this far... And not understanding what business Google is actually in, will likely lead it to failure.
Are you saying you think some of the smartest people in the world havent thought of this? They know how google makes money.
Who's not opening their foldable phone? I open mine all the time. I stopped using my tablet. Seems odd to me.
Exaaaactly. And yes we are used to using phones like phones but we also know how to use tablets and so we use it as a tablet😅
Gemini says it can't set my alarm, I need to use the clock app instead ... It definitely is over 😅
The f***?!? That's wild. I'm surprised it's so useless at this point in time.
It's not and it can do way more than set your alarm.
@@yushpeaceandlove Google fandom is big in India ... Just ask it yourself to see ;)
And ChatGPT can't do it either so....
OpenAI's introduction of Search GPT might seem like a grand revelation, but in reality, many users have already been leveraging custom GPT models for similar tasks. These custom GPTs aggregate news from various sources, identify common threads, and synthesize comprehensive summaries. Imagine a custom GPT that consistently checks at least five sources before spitting out a cohesive answer - that's the essence of what we're talking about. Essentially, OpenAI is taking what savvy users have been doing and packaging it with a more polished user experience.
Love the Verge.Definately waiting for next one.Thank you guy's.💯✌️
Finally, it's a video podcast. I skipped the audio podcasts that this channel made in the past.
Doesn’t Perplexity already do this? I use it all the time.
Nilay saying he's 42 years old made me feel younger than ever :)
Doubt
I like this other guy, the “tell me about the leg” was a nice counter snark against snark
You keep moving my TRS-80 Model 100! It still, though, makes me happy to see it, every time. ❤
Re: aspect ratios for folding phones, 1:2 would be cool, as then it’s 1:1 when opened
Regarding rating movies by how you should see them, the top rating of a reviewer I used to watch called JeremyJahns was "buy it on Blu-ray" with "buy it on DVD" below that
16:28 I believe having these sorts of “priority” established and professional sources vastly improves the quality (or at least perceived quality) of a service with quality, encyclopedic data
Search is such a harder problem
Doubtful. Google has been providing similar features in their search engine with their generative AI results. I've have been using these for months and they are concise and useful while still providing the full context search results.
Actually I use my foldable phone with the internal screen more. It is like having a mini tablet in your pocket and it's just so much better for typing, watching videos, editing, reading, searching Etc😊
I ended up downgrading my Max to be part of this bundle (already had the Hulu/D+ bundle). Saved $10 a month or so. This doesn't effect me too much as it's mostly my kid that watches these.
Great conversation
About the Alexa segment:
Consumers are the ones who decide how to use it, not the company.
Rabbit was the same deal, they were hoping consumers would buy it and figure out its purpose, and it turned out to be just an app.
All these companies are forgetting that necessity is the mother of invention. Without necessity, the product is motherless, and therefore a bastard.
The problem I have with RAG is that the summary often contradicts the links. So I cannot trust it so you might as well just give me links … and we are back to regular search
35:47 literally the most useful and reliable things Google Home do for me are 1) turn on and off my TV, 2) turn on and off my air conditioner. That's it. Nothing about that requires AI, and honestly it worked *more* reliably a few years ago than it does now.
I still think to Big Papa Joe & Touchwiz when a “Galaxy Fan” comes to mind.
1:09:45 it isnt about the option between Google or Apple Maps because there's Waze, more popular than Google Maps at least in Brazil
Don't Google own Waze ?
@@DanSwain it does and i didn't know! thanks
David "I think" Pierce.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
I don't put much stock into my sleep score, but I like to track the time and length of my sleep with my watch.
People might be happier ordering stuff via Alexa if Amazon itself wasn’t such a jumble sale. You can be really quite precise when you search for stuff on Amazon and it will still offer you some sponsored off-brand knock-offs ahead of what you actually asked for. What’s the odds that when ordering by voice alone you’d get what you actually wanted versus something that looks similar but might burn your house down instead?
No mention of search gpt actually providing incorrect info regarding the music festivals?
Today I learned that me and Nelay use the same Alarm app and I could not validated as a nerd
Only 11 mins in but surprised they’ve not mentioned perplexity yet…
I am a pilot and I don’t use an iPad Mini.
57:03 I do use both dex from phone and the tablet. I have the galaxy watch. I won't be getting a new one. And I got rid of the galaxy buds pro 2.
Can I pay for sponsorship with Kohl’s cash?
"David and the Pilots" is a decent band name.
As much as I don't (want to) like the Echo devices, they do work very well for home automation, better than Google Home devices by a lot from my experience with both. Google has always had long delays and failures to do the asked task where Alexa just does it and very quickly.
Why do you always laugh in a creepy way whenever the EU is mentioned?
What ever happened to Scissor Vodka? Was there some controversy I missed, and they were canceled?
The not lightning round lightning rounds are the best.
Can’t wait for search gpt to spit out a list of non existent musicians playing at non existent venues, ahaha
obligatory david thirst comment
Sweet, a search engine with answers we can trust even less than the random strangers on the internet from which it has aped all information it has with no ability to discern.
"Kudos to Jesús" 1:02:30 🤣
Lol Perplexity was there before SearchGPT
Jake!🙌🏿
Long way before its over
Think Amazon should do a deal with OpenAI. The device is already in homes, the new Chatgpt 4o with its new voice would revolutionise the product immediately.
It would give it a facelift but it still wouldn’t have a purpose other than a super accessible timer, weather app, and a few other fringe things
literally all apple needs to do is make a foldable phone and perect it and if they do it well then bam everyone is gonna switch to foldable / flip phones cause its just better
When it comes to learning and research for topics - sure, but even then, not all the time.
Dethroning Google takes a lot more effort on user experience and speed and practicality.
Most people use Google for a lot of other things. Things that AI is actually totally unnecessary.
Most of my use on Google is around:
- getting to a site or a subtopic of a site, and actually using the site. Like looking for flights, or a specific section of a wiki. Or a product page's tech specs, etc.
- lazy bookmarking - I know the site, but I don't bookmark it, and sometimes, it's easier to just Google
- the minor things that Google had implemented over time, like currency conversion, weather, etc
- quick skimming of info just by looking at the top results
I'd only believe SearchGPT or whatever beating Google once it's actually blazing fast. Even with the speed improvements out there, it's still *slow* in comparison. Slow as in "I've already read and learned the top results before GPT-4o could even print the first sentence" slow.
Of course, this changes entirely if Google uses their AI stuff fulltime because it'll kill the good things in Google Search instead
Dieter is not gonna like this 😂😂😂
The host sounds like Joe Rogan 😂
You can tell somebody is trapped in a tech bubble if they think this sounds like a useful idea.
The only thing I fear regarding OpenAI competing with Google is that their strongest product, a tool to parse and generate language, actually solves Google's biggest issue: automatically understanding what kinds of answers people want. This is unusual, because LLMs are profoundly useless in many other situations. How they differentiate themselves from Bing and don't implode legally will be a spectacle no matter what though lol
samsung designs apple screens and their own... they'll survive this if they play it right
don't they (pilots) have to turn their ipads off on take offs and landings like all of us ? won't those planes starting to fall from the skies? wtf is going on?? are they lying to us?? 🥳
This reminds me of Google+ and how everyone thought it would destroy Facebook...
Does the Verge support race baiting in general ?
Gemini's biggest issue is being woke
Not by a longshot the world needs Google and Android.i for one prefer android than IOS.
Haha and there is no way a AI company would beat out google the world is larger than north america.and the rest of the world prefers Google.
Only 11 mins in but surprised they’ve not mentioned perplexity yet…