I've never really liked the R4, the AKA Industrial Tread tires, to be honest. As you said they get very poor traction in the soft stuff. I've even lost traction on plain grass before, which really surprised me. I was driving up an incline and they just started spinning. As far as I'm concerned, the R14 (these ones you bought) and R1 are the best for great traction. Excellent choice, Chad! 👍 Unless you're doing a lot of tractor work on dry pavement, such as moving pallets or working at a plant nursery, R4 tires just won't cut the mustard as they say. I really wish tractor makers wouldn't put them on every tractor they make. I suppose it's cost, but I'm not sure what their reasoning is. Thanks for sharing, Chad! 😎 The new tires looks great!
I shouldn't complain much about those R4 tires - they did last 20 years and get me long service. I never had a flat until this one. I've plugged them a few times when I noticed a small thorn or leak, but never a flat. But the VersaTurf tires are amazing. I was out moving dirt tonight and was able to do most of it in 2 wheel drive.
I was really disappointed that I couldn’t get them on my 3 series John Deere 2 years ago when I bought it. So far with my R4’s I haven’t been stuck, but liked the radial idea and tread pattern. Good info! You might want to think about a furniture dolly to move the wheel around if you ever need to do that again. I have all my implements sitting on modified dolly’s so that I don’t have to maneuver, only push them right to the back.
I'm really happy with these Versa Turf tires. Granted - I've only had them now for about a week. But I've been in the mud, wet grass, driveway, and dry dirt. I think they'll also do well in the snow. So I actually don't anticipate ever putting the R3 turf tires back on again. The dolly idea is excellent. I often see them on sale at Harbor Freight for cheap and consider getting them. I might pick some up the next time they're on sale.
Thanks, Chris. NO complaints after 20 years of use with those R4s. They weren't the best in snow or mud - but they did hold up really well. This is the first time I've had a flat with them!
I made a pair of line up studs to help when I install my loaded Ag tires, after the wheel is installed I can remove my studs with my fingers & add the last 2 bolts.
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Good morning! The new tires have done good so far. Lots of rain this weekend - so we'll see how they do in the wet grass later today. Have a nice Sunday!
I've actually done some research on that exact topic! I've seen some people use them and really like them. But others have said that it does tear up the lawn a bit more than the OEM tires on the zero turn. Let me know if you give them I try. I might consider it.
I bet your old Ford has a nice hand crank leveling box for adjusting the right 3 point arm height… no idea why the manufacturers all cheaped out on a nice mechanism like that for something akin to a turnbuckle. I also have no idea why R4s are so popular on compact tractors. They would be my LAST choice. Even though the tires are the same size, did you check if the new tires have the same rolling circumference? If not it could cause issues with 4wd and front differential with the mismatched front/rear tires. Probably not an issue with the same size, but you never know when going from bias ply to radial and changing tread.
You're right about the old Ford 8N and 641 - they both have the crank handle to easily level the 3 point arm height. John Deere could have learned from those 70 year old tractors. :) As far as the same rolling circumference - that's a good point. I don't want to mess up my 4x4 in the tractor. I should have measured the old one that wasn't flat before I took it to the tire shop. I probably can find the specs online to see if they're the same. They are the same manufacturer - so hopefully they're the same overall diameter. If they're not - I'll probably have to buy those front Versa Turf tires faster than anticipated. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife My 1981 Ford 1700 compact tractor (built by Shibaura in Japan) has the hand crank leveling too, but I don’t see it on any new tractors. It’s a nice feature!
Time goes so quickly - I didn't realize the original tires were 20 years old! It's definitely a relief knowing that these new tires will not only perform better in the areas we work, but also give us that peace of mind that the new rubber will hold up while working. Thanks for watching!
Dude , why don't you use a punch to lift an align the stud hole at the same time . After changing them twice a year , one would have thought that you would have figured that out ..
For my gator I got a bolt with correct thread pitch, cut off the bolt head, chamfered it with a grinder. Screw in the ‘headless’ bolt to use as a locating stud. Not perfect, but it’ll sure help line up the remaining holes.
Wouldn't the Epson salt eat through the steel wheels just like calcium chloride? We've had to replace the rims of our Ford tractors multiple times. That weight is nice - but really eats through metal. The windshield washer fluid is about 3.5 lbs less per gallon - but won't destroy the rims.
@@PurpleCollarLife Yeah. Lot of weight on that frame. I've seen plenty just beat to hell being used as a loader. Not saying you are doing that. And again everybody gets to do as they want.
I've never really liked the R4, the AKA Industrial Tread tires, to be honest. As you said they get very poor traction in the soft stuff. I've even lost traction on plain grass before, which really surprised me. I was driving up an incline and they just started spinning. As far as I'm concerned, the R14 (these ones you bought) and R1 are the best for great traction. Excellent choice, Chad! 👍 Unless you're doing a lot of tractor work on dry pavement, such as moving pallets or working at a plant nursery, R4 tires just won't cut the mustard as they say. I really wish tractor makers wouldn't put them on every tractor they make. I suppose it's cost, but I'm not sure what their reasoning is. Thanks for sharing, Chad! 😎 The new tires looks great!
I shouldn't complain much about those R4 tires - they did last 20 years and get me long service. I never had a flat until this one. I've plugged them a few times when I noticed a small thorn or leak, but never a flat.
But the VersaTurf tires are amazing. I was out moving dirt tonight and was able to do most of it in 2 wheel drive.
Hello Chad, good choice 👍🏼🇺🇸
Thank you!
I was really disappointed that I couldn’t get them on my 3 series John Deere 2 years ago when I bought it. So far with my R4’s I haven’t been stuck, but liked the radial idea and tread pattern. Good info! You might want to think about a furniture dolly to move the wheel around if you ever need to do that again. I have all my implements sitting on modified dolly’s so that I don’t have to maneuver, only push them right to the back.
I'm really happy with these Versa Turf tires. Granted - I've only had them now for about a week. But I've been in the mud, wet grass, driveway, and dry dirt. I think they'll also do well in the snow. So I actually don't anticipate ever putting the R3 turf tires back on again.
The dolly idea is excellent. I often see them on sale at Harbor Freight for cheap and consider getting them. I might pick some up the next time they're on sale.
Love my Versaturfs on my "Old Faithful" 1975 Wheel Horse B-80! Looks like the R4s didn't really owe you anything!
Thanks, Chris. NO complaints after 20 years of use with those R4s. They weren't the best in snow or mud - but they did hold up really well. This is the first time I've had a flat with them!
The hybrid tread looks pretty good They definitely seem to dig in better
They're working great. I was out moving more dirt tonight.
I made a pair of line up studs to help when I install my loaded Ag tires, after the wheel is installed I can remove my studs with my fingers & add the last 2 bolts.
i kinda like is the all terrain tires they have on amazon from same seller.
I'll have to check those out. These Versa Turf tires are amazing.
Good Morning Sir 😇👌👍Ho Ho Houston we have a leak 😢 These are Very Nice Aggressive Tyres Sir 👌😇👍Now that is REALY TRULY OUTSTANDING Field Testing Sir 👍🧐👌Nice t Shirts 🤣🤣👍👍 Great soil analyze Sir 🧐 Be Well Sir Cheers 👍👍👌👌😇😇🍻🍻
Good morning! The new tires have done good so far. Lots of rain this weekend - so we'll see how they do in the wet grass later today.
Have a nice Sunday!
I went with the R14 on my new tractor as well.
Good choice, HWM! I think you could get some of these Versa Turf tires for your mowers! :)
Id concider drilling the bolt holes to a car metric size stud and nut if possible it would make things easier
Would those be good on a zero turn mower
I've actually done some research on that exact topic! I've seen some people use them and really like them. But others have said that it does tear up the lawn a bit more than the OEM tires on the zero turn. Let me know if you give them I try. I might consider it.
I bet your old Ford has a nice hand crank leveling box for adjusting the right 3 point arm height… no idea why the manufacturers all cheaped out on a nice mechanism like that for something akin to a turnbuckle. I also have no idea why R4s are so popular on compact tractors. They would be my LAST choice. Even though the tires are the same size, did you check if the new tires have the same rolling circumference? If not it could cause issues with 4wd and front differential with the mismatched front/rear tires. Probably not an issue with the same size, but you never know when going from bias ply to radial and changing tread.
You're right about the old Ford 8N and 641 - they both have the crank handle to easily level the 3 point arm height. John Deere could have learned from those 70 year old tractors. :)
As far as the same rolling circumference - that's a good point. I don't want to mess up my 4x4 in the tractor. I should have measured the old one that wasn't flat before I took it to the tire shop. I probably can find the specs online to see if they're the same. They are the same manufacturer - so hopefully they're the same overall diameter. If they're not - I'll probably have to buy those front Versa Turf tires faster than anticipated. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife My 1981 Ford 1700 compact tractor (built by Shibaura in Japan) has the hand crank leveling too, but I don’t see it on any new tractors. It’s a nice feature!
Wise investment its a pain to go out and find a dead battery or a flat tire. Front tires are next.
Time goes so quickly - I didn't realize the original tires were 20 years old! It's definitely a relief knowing that these new tires will not only perform better in the areas we work, but also give us that peace of mind that the new rubber will hold up while working. Thanks for watching!
It looks like the mud squeezes out of the tread.
Hi Botabob! The edges clean out quickly - like you saw, the mud squeezes out of those edge lugs. Thanks for watching!
I couldn't locate this type, r14 so I found another in 8 ply. My old 420 garden tractor should be better in snow other than yard tires
Dude , why don't you use a punch to lift an align the stud hole at the same time . After changing them twice a year , one would have thought that you would have figured that out ..
Evidently I'm a slow learner? :) And I actually don't own a punch - but that could be remedied if you think that's a faster solution!
For my gator I got a bolt with correct thread pitch, cut off the bolt head, chamfered it with a grinder. Screw in the ‘headless’ bolt to use as a locating stud. Not perfect, but it’ll sure help line up the remaining holes.
just watched a video of a guy that put truck lt tires on his tractor.
That's interesting! People have been experimenting with putting tractor tires on trucks for decades. :)
Epson salt is cheap and makes that water much heavier. Cut off a bolt and use it to pilot the wheel .
Don’t like the Epson salt idea. But the cut off bolt is excellent idea.
@@Biggestfoot10209 the farmers around here use it regularly.
@@Biggestfoot10209 you use a saturated solution . No solids in the tire .
@@Biggestfoot10209 sorry , I ment to recommend calcium chloride not magnesium sulfide .
Wouldn't the Epson salt eat through the steel wheels just like calcium chloride? We've had to replace the rims of our Ford tractors multiple times. That weight is nice - but really eats through metal. The windshield washer fluid is about 3.5 lbs less per gallon - but won't destroy the rims.
😢 try using a pry bar/big screw driver to manipulate that tire onto the hub. Too much time wasted using the Jack..
Great tip!
Asking an awful lot from that machine. To each their own.
Do you mean moving the dirt?
@@PurpleCollarLife Yeah. Lot of weight on that frame. I've seen plenty just beat to hell being used as a loader. Not saying you are doing that. And again everybody gets to do as they want.