2020 K2 Mindbender 90 Ti Ski Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- This week on Chairlift Chat Bob and Jeff review the new 2020 K2 Mindbender 90 Ti. Such a versatile, fun all mountain ski. Check it out!
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Really cool review it’s a lot better when most of the video is just you guys skiing. It’s more refreshing that way and all the important infos are still given. And if you wanted to learn more you could just read the article. Keep up the great work,greetings from Germany.
P.S Thanks for all the good Infos on the RUSTLER 9,bought it this season and it’s a blast.
We're going to try to do more of this style. We'll keep doing some longer discussions in the studio too, but it's fun to switch it up now and then.
Jeff makes the best and more honest and detailed reviews!!!! Thanks Jeff!!!!
Thanks!
This is real sking - dynamic and speed.
The skill is touchable, which I expect able to perform in the near future too
My favorite unscripted video. "Look there's Josh".
Excellent format guys....love you skiing it and reviewing on slope! Well done love it.
Thanks Chris! I plan on doing more reviews in this style next season.
Great review - maybe the best I’ve seen on RUclips about any ski. Thanks
Thank you!
I miss winter already 😭
Really great review from the 90 Ti!!! Can you also please do one for the 99 Ti? Thanks
Planning on it!
R U Having FUN BOB....
Always!
There are no bad ski, only bad skiers. So for you guys, every ski is good ski.
Ok would you use a pair of GS race skis in deep powder?
Love your reviews and bought the new Mantra in N.Z after watching your video. More important though, forget the hood, what is the blue jacket you are wearing Bob?
I relayed the question to Bob, can't remember what his jacket is!
You used to recommend the Pinnacle to intermediate skiers as a good choice to grow with. Does the Mindbender still fit that use ?
Also, what defines an intermediate skier to y’all ?
Bruh. The over-the-helmet fleece hood thing is an abomination. I can’t even.
I do freaking love the Mindbender series!
But so warm!
Beautiful review!
Thanks!
The real star of this video is Bob's hood! How would you compare these to the new Experience 88s? I have some 2 year old Experience 84s and I'm looking to replace them with something more versatile off piste
Fairly similar in the sense that they both feel like they can ski a wide variety of terrain and snow conditions really well. I think the Mindbender feels a little more stable at speed and holds an edge a little better. Experience 88 is a touch more forgiving.
Enforcer 93, Kore 93, Mindbender 90. How would you say these 3 relate to each other? I got to ski the kore and loved how smooth it was turning and how stable it was in the air, but the sizes offered are really awkward.
Enforcer 93 is the most stable at speed, Kore 93 feels the lightest, Mindbender 90 feels the quickest. The shape of the Enforcer and Kore are more similar to each other than they are to the Mindbender. More of a slarvy, smeary feel than the Mindbender, which feels a little more precise. For example, the Mindbender felt way quicker in bumps than either of those skis.
How do you compare this to the Rossignol 88? I have the Nordica 93 and I feel it is too much ski for me....a bit heavy, aggressive and work for me on turns. Want a nimble ski that’s easy to turn. Looking into this ski or the Rossi 88 and any others u can suggest! Thanks!!!!
@@ESW206 Mindbender 90 Ti feels a little more stable than the Experience 88 Ti. They're similar in the sense that they both are very versatile for their width, but the K2 feels like a little more ski. Both are quick and nimble, and the Mindbender 90 is less tiring than the Enforcer 88, but the Experience 88 Ti is even easier. Hope that helps!
How would this compare to the rustler 9? They seem very similar. Looking for a new east coast one ski quiver for next season. Both seem to hit the mark!
Fairly similar to be honest, but the Rustler 9 feels a little more playful. More pronounced rocker, especially in the tail, and the metal ends earlier. So, a little lighter in its swing weight, and softer flexing tips and tails. More torsional stiffness in the forebody of the Mindbender too.
Hello i'm 20 years old, 182 cm, 72 kg and expert skier What size do you recommend for me? On the Mindbender 99 Ti 2020.
Great video and thanks !
177 or 184, and I'm kind of leaning towards 177. If you really like to charge and aren't too worried about a slightly fatiguing ski when trying to maneuver in tricky terrain, go 184, otherwise, 177 should be fine. I've found it's not really a ski you need to size up on, any of the Mindbender Ti skis for that matter.
I am twelve 90lbs 5foot 2inches advanced skier I need powder only skis and I am thinking about the völkl confession jr 162 cm. Good choice or no?
Definitely a good choice! There are a bunch of good "tweener" skis popping up these days. I'd look at the Rustler Team from Blizzard too.
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Hello im37 years old and I’m intermediate little advanced skier 6.3 220lb what size you recommend for me 177-184 model 2021 and what bindings?? Thank you so much I love your reviews lot cheers
Hi Charlie! At your size, I think the 184 cm will be best. 177 cm might feel a little unstable at higher speeds, which can be a bit nerve-wracking. 184 will be more stable, and might feel a little more tiring, especially at first as you get used to them, but in the long run I think that's the way to go. I really like both the Marker Griffon and Tyrolia Attack 13 as bindings for these skis. If you need a higher DIN range, bump up to the Jester or Attack 16. Low stand height, wide platform, they're both really good all-mountain bindings.
I’m looking to buy this ski and i don’t know what size to get. I’m 6 feet tall and 150lbs. but I gain about 10-15lbs. a year since I’m only 14. I’m an intermediate-advanced skier looking for these to last many many years. Since I’m progressing quickly I don’t know whether to buy the 170 or 177. What do you guys think?
Hi Charlie!
As a young, athletic gentleman, I think you can go with the 177 cm. As you continue to grow, that 170 cm would feel awfully short. At your current size, 177 cm shouldn't be too hard to handle, and in the long run that length is undoubtedly better.
Love the review - informative as always, and the on-slope format is more immediate for your impressions.
This ski has me very interested. With some feedback from your website, I recently got Rustler 9’s. While I am enjoying them, at 220lbs, I’m finding more flap at the tips than I’d prefer when at speed. This looks like a potential replacement for next year - a little shorter than the 188 Blizzards, close in playfulness and manoeuvrability, but stiffer and more stable given my size and the 70/30 split of on/off east coast skiing I do. Does that sound like an accurate assessment?
Hi Brent!
I think that's a pretty accurate assessment, yeah. Stiffer and more stable through the tips and tails than the Rustler 9, although it's not a world of difference, if that makes sense. If you just want a touch more stability and a little less movement in the tips and tails, it's a good choice, but keep in mind they're fairly similar overall.
I guess it probably wouldn't be worth getting the 99 and 108 but might it be worth getting the 90 and 108? Or I suppose the 99 and 116? How much separation is ideal for a quiver? Maybe even the 90 and 116?
Love the vids! Do you think this would be good to pair with Rustler 10s?
Hey Connor! Yeah, I do. More firm snow performance, more stability at speed, etc. Mindbender 90 would be a good ski to grab when you don't have much fresh snow to play with.
You did a review on the Elan Ripstick 88. I searched and found no comparison as other brands/models below in triplicate. You state the Elan is fun and playful but overall for someone looking for a 3rd quiver to take to trees, moguls, and play it in 1+ day pow? Any preference to the K2 Mindbender 90ti vs. Elan Ripstick 88 (@glenplake fan).
Hi Tom! The Ripstick 88 is actually kind of tough to compare to other models because it has a relatively unique feel. Compared to the Mindbender 90, it feels lighter and softer flexing, but holds an edge just as well. Some skiers really like a stiffer ski, but the Ripstick 88 lets you play around with turn shapes more easily than just about anything else in that width range and has really good torsional stiffness too. K2 is specifically playing around with different amounts of torsional stiffness in different parts of their skis, which does allow for different turn shapes too, but it has a more stout feel. Requires a little more skier input, but feels a little more stable at speed.
Skiessentials.com thanks for the comparison. I'll dig further as the season gets closer and see which would be more fun for bumps, skimming off chunks and 0-3 day old pow, and overall pop and power.
@@toastymmo let us know if you have any other questions!!
You didn’t say a number😬
how does it compare to the nordica enforcers?
A little quicker and feel a little more playful. I'd compare it to the new Enforcer 88 as that's the closest in width. Enforcer 88 is a better carver, this is a better mogul/tree ski, and can still lay down some nice turns on groomers too.
What’s up Jeff! I am currently having a miserable time deciding between the Line Blend 2019 and the K2 poacher because they are both on sale. I know that both would be a good choice for me, I ski here at Killington and want a ski that can simply do it all but it’s a matter of which does it all better. I love to do groomers and steeps in the morning before they get tracked out and later on I hit the trees then go to the park at the end of the day. What do you think would be a better choice for me?
To be perfectly honest, you can't go wrong with either. They're pretty similar in their construction and overall feel. Whichever one you can get for less probably makes sense, as silly as that might sound. I have a blast skiing both those skis.
Skiessentials.com thank you!
Skiessentials.com they both seem terrific but I don’t want a ski that is park orientated because I want to be able to go fast and carve and be stable. Are they both good for this? Or is one better than the other
@@austinsalzillo I'd say the Blend probably feels a little more stable at speed. I recently skied the Chronic and was pretty impressed with it, the Blend is fairly similar. We're picking up Line next season, which is quite exciting!
Skiessentials.com awesome that’s interesting because I’ve heard that the blends are like a noodle with stability from many places
How does it compare to the Rustler 9?
Just answered the same question:
Fairly similar to be honest, but the Rustler 9 feels a little more playful. More pronounced rocker, especially in the tail, and the metal ends earlier. So, a little lighter in its swing weight, and softer flexing tips and tails. More torsional stiffness in the forebody of the Mindbender too.
Is 99ti harder to ski then 90ti
Will you do a review on the mindbender 116?
Hopefully we have some more powder days this season! If we get the opportunity, we'd absolutely love to.
Would these skis be similar performance to the ikonic 85ti 177 which I have and love. I'm thinking of getting the 99 or 108 for trees and powder.
It has more of a versatile feel than the iKonic 85. That ski has wider tips and tails, which makes it harder to pivot and smear. On the other hand, the Mindbender 90 can rip carving turns, so in some ways, it's similar.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks that's enough info to want to go buy them. I'm probably getting 108 should I go longer than 177cm?
I looked at the sizes 179 it is
So I had the chance to try one of these the other day and loved it. It just felt like it would do everything I want and I didn't have to think too much about it. If I want to get forward and push it it just went, but it I stood up and smeared around it felt controlled.
My only worry is the width, as I want to be able to use it for a little back-country. I'm still wondering about the Ranger 94 fr or Rustler 9, and was wondering how these skis compare to the Minderbender? I tried a Kastle 96FX HP as well, and it just felt all wrong, so I'm wary of going too far in the wide flexible direction.
Edit: Sorry, realised a couple of people have already asked. So this is a little more stable/precise than a Rustler. I'm assuming also therefore a little more stable/precise than the Ranger. Of the skis I mentioned, would you say the Rustler/Ranger would feel more similar to this Mindbender, or the 96FX HP? If you had to pick one you could carve on, but also do a little proper backcountry tour on, which would it be?
Carve on and still do a backcountry tour on... Hmm. All 3 of those skis would work, although if I had to choose I'd probably go with the Ranger 94 as it feels the lightest and still rips on the descent. It doesn't, however, feel particularly similar to the Mindbender. What didn't you like about the FX 96 HP? In my opinion the Ranger and Rustler feel fairly similar, although the Rustler has a touch more stability at speed. Not quite as much power as the MB 90, but more than the Ranger. Let me know more about what you felt on the FX 96 and I'll let you know if I think you'd feel the same things on a Ranger or Rustler.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks. It's hard to put my finger on it with the FX 96, but it just felt a little boat like. I'm not sure if it was because it's the widest ski I've been on, or the stiffness or quite what. I'm wondering if it was something to do with the sidecut, ad they looked very straight edged compared to others. Where would the ranger slot in stiffness wise in this little list? I really liked the flex on the mindbender, but as I say, am just wondering if I could do with something a smidge more off piste orientated.
Are these decent enough to hit trees? I would assume so since you said they're comfortable on moguls. What respective lengths are you guys each using?
Yeah, you can definitely use them in trees! Not a ton of float for a powder day, but other than that, they'll work great. I (Jeff) usually go for the 177, Bob the 184, and he might even go longer if there was a longer option.
@@SkiEssentials thanks for taking the time to reply, love your guys stuff!
Have you also tried the 90c? If so, how does it compare to the 90ti?
Not personally, but one of my co-workers has! He loved it. He's out today, but I'll have an opportunity to ski it soon. Really intriguing what they did with the carbon in that ski.
Enforcer 88 vs Mindbender 90?
Depends if you want ripping carving performance or more versatility. The Mindbender 90 doesn't quite hang with the Enforcer 88 in terms of power and responsiveness on firm snow, but it's more fun and easier in moguls, trees, softer snow, etc. Feels a little lighter on your feet, too.
@@SkiEssentials is one of these ok for using them in the park? Not hardly, but from times to times...
How do they handle in deep powder?
90 isn't super wide for powder, but I'd say among 90 mm all-mountain skis, the Mindbender does quite well in deeper snow. The smooth rocker and taper lines in both the tips and tails reduce catching so it's not too demanding when it gets deep. It's not, however, particularly light, so it doesn't feel floaty, but it will work in soft snow.
Where do I get that grey balaclava/hoodie?
Bob's wife actually makes them! She's not selling to the public (yet), but there are a few companies that make similar products.
www.skiessentials.com/overeasy-mountain-hoode.html#92=1433
@@SkiEssentials hmu when the hoods come up for sale please. Thanks guys - great job!
Where do you get those hoodies?
Pretty hard to get right now, but if we build some excitement they'll be forced to make enough for all of us, right?!
How do the Volkl mantra m5, the head kore 93 and the mindbender 90 compare in your opinion? Which one is best for powder snow and which one the most versatile?
Daan Wesseling I have the same question.
pretty sure they are more versatile than the Kore 93 which I find brittle and unpleasant in mixed snow.
They all feel quite different, so somewhat hard to compare. Best in powder? In my opinion that's a toss up between the Kore and M5. M5 has the width, Kore has the shape. Mindbender isn't far behind in performance, however. Most versatile? Honestly probably either Mindbender or M5. They both outperform the Kore on firm snow, and are super fun off-piste too. The Kore feels like it's focusing most on off-piste maneuverability, especially the 93. 99 is a little stiffer, holds an edge better, etc.
@@SkiEssentials I know you answered to the Rustler 9 in a different comment, but id be curious how you would add the Rustler 9 to that current line of thinking against these skis listed, Best in powder, Most versatile, Firm snow etc...or even throw in the enforcer as well.. Thx!
You're doing a ski review without showing the skis. LOL
We almost never do reviews that are 100% on hill like this, basically for that exact reason. Some of our subscribers were asking for some shorter, on-hill reviews, so we did some.
This is painful to watch, how bad the skiing is. How can be this credible information???
I mean... the ballet skiing was okay, right? If you ever find yourself in Stowe, hit us up, and we'll use your skiing in a review.
Is this sarcasm?? Skiing is great
@@SkiEssentials You Don't Mess with the Žalohar!
Yes, you are right, Sir. Theirs upped body and a polling need a main tune up with a certified instructor.
Post a video, Bine!! Show us how it's done.