I think you have to understand, to a degree, what you are listening to, for it to make sense and have structure. thank you for shedding some light on this particular work.
Not that anyone will ever believe me about this but: In the incipient dark ages of classical music RUclips of 2009 when you couldn't even find recordings for a good amount of 20th century music, let alone score videos for almost literally everything, the interview this opening was from was also just that: A random Stockhausen interview that RUclips didn't pay much attention to. My friend and I were both enthusiasts of 20th century art music at the time and were both giggling profusely over that moment we came across randomly, and I had the idea to crop it out and make it its own upload: the first interview clip (on RUclips) of Stockhausen's favorite sound. We giggled about it some more and then both promptly forgot about it. Then getting back into Stockhausen's music earlier this year, I thought about the clip and decided to visit it to see if it was still there only to realize that several exact copycat videos had been made of it, one new upload every few years, effectively meaning I was the co-creator of a D Tier meme in a niche community in the dark corners of this particular hellsite. Easily my proudest accomplishment to date. Nice to see it represented here. :)
The intro made me lol. Really interesting insights, and I feel you when you say you find his music "fascinating" and beautiful in that confession-like tone.
Love the video, it's a great primer for newbies to the work of one of the 20th century's greatest. The humor worked well, and the Twin Peaks reference at the end is total, unexpected perfect. That said, I highly disagree about it being "difficult" music, but then a lot of things are difficult to digest to people new to a genre or style of anything anyway. For me though, I've been a massive fan of contemporary classical music since my teens and even then when I was first exploring this stuff, I related to it on an intuitive and aesthetic level, loving the sound of the music itself, it's dissonance, it's transformations and dynamics, it's timbres etc before I came to understand it on the music theory and even mathematical (I'd be lying if I said I understood the math beyond the geometric elements) side of it. Anyway, your channel is one of those 'instant sub' ones, so I'm looking forward to whatever you do next. I saw this video much earlier today and binged some of your other videos, RUclips needs more channels like yours brother :)
Listening to Gruppen mostly brought up one feeling: confusion. I feel like he overengeenered his music to the point it's only purpouse is for you to say "wow, this is so complicated and unpractical". Maybe I'm just an idiot with no idea about music.
Intelligence has nothing to do with enjoyment or understanding of music. I feel for Gruppen it's best to disregard all theory and treat it for what it is, a textural masterpiece sometimes a wall of dissonant sound other times a sparse fragment of melody. Best just allow the music to take you on it's journey I feel.
In general I think music should not go too far away from melodies. I can relate to abstract music, consisting mainly of rhythm combined with harmony and even noises. But my heart and soul is hungry for a melody after some time. Definitely Stockhausen is worth be explored.
I think it's important for music to go in all directions, not just one fixation on basic melody and harmony. Since you mention melody though, it can be firmly said that melody is a central component of almost all of Stockhausen's music, to the point where he built a 29 hour opera cycle around one.
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I think you have to understand, to a degree, what you are listening to, for it to make sense and have structure. thank you for shedding some light on this particular work.
Not that anyone will ever believe me about this but: In the incipient dark ages of classical music RUclips of 2009 when you couldn't even find recordings for a good amount of 20th century music, let alone score videos for almost literally everything, the interview this opening was from was also just that: A random Stockhausen interview that RUclips didn't pay much attention to.
My friend and I were both enthusiasts of 20th century art music at the time and were both giggling profusely over that moment we came across randomly, and I had the idea to crop it out and make it its own upload: the first interview clip (on RUclips) of Stockhausen's favorite sound. We giggled about it some more and then both promptly forgot about it.
Then getting back into Stockhausen's music earlier this year, I thought about the clip and decided to visit it to see if it was still there only to realize that several exact copycat videos had been made of it, one new upload every few years, effectively meaning I was the co-creator of a D Tier meme in a niche community in the dark corners of this particular hellsite. Easily my proudest accomplishment to date.
Nice to see it represented here. :)
The intro made me lol.
Really interesting insights, and I feel you when you say you find his music "fascinating" and beautiful in that confession-like tone.
This is great stuff!!!
Gruppen is really mad stuff. I can't imagine how much work it is to write something like this.
Great video and introduction this amazing work!
Expecting more on this! Fantastic!
There will be at least 1 more about Ligeti and 1 about Grisey, then I might change the format again, let's see ;)
Give me the Grisey now
nah, that will take some time...
amazing video thank you!
Love the video, it's a great primer for newbies to the work of one of the 20th century's greatest.
The humor worked well, and the Twin Peaks reference at the end is total, unexpected perfect.
That said, I highly disagree about it being "difficult" music, but then a lot of things are difficult to digest to people new to a genre or style of anything anyway. For me though, I've been a massive fan of contemporary classical music since my teens and even then when I was first exploring this stuff, I related to it on an intuitive and aesthetic level, loving the sound of the music itself, it's dissonance, it's transformations and dynamics, it's timbres etc before I came to understand it on the music theory and even mathematical (I'd be lying if I said I understood the math beyond the geometric elements) side of it.
Anyway, your channel is one of those 'instant sub' ones, so I'm looking forward to whatever you do next.
I saw this video much earlier today and binged some of your other videos, RUclips needs more channels like yours brother :)
I used to love Gruppen...
Listening to Gruppen mostly brought up one feeling: confusion. I feel like he overengeenered his music to the point it's only purpouse is for you to say "wow, this is so complicated and unpractical". Maybe I'm just an idiot with no idea about music.
Intelligence has nothing to do with enjoyment or understanding of music. I feel for Gruppen it's best to disregard all theory and treat it for what it is, a textural masterpiece sometimes a wall of dissonant sound other times a sparse fragment of melody. Best just allow the music to take you on it's journey I feel.
In general I think music should not go too far away from melodies. I can relate to abstract music, consisting mainly of rhythm combined with harmony and even noises. But my heart and soul is hungry for a melody after some time. Definitely Stockhausen is worth be explored.
I think one needs both, it's like without 'sugar' music is boring, but with too much 'sugar', one gets diabetes...
Don’t forget the impro parts, a pinch of salt
I think it's important for music to go in all directions, not just one fixation on basic melody and harmony.
Since you mention melody though, it can be firmly said that melody is a central component of almost all of Stockhausen's music, to the point where he built a 29 hour opera cycle around one.