She was "the Supreme" although her talents were overshadowed by another member in that group who basically made it to the top at Motown on their back versus their talents.
Florence didn’t have a voice to carry the hits that Diana led on. Can you honestly hear Flo singing Baby Love or Where Did Our Love Go? Flo Ballard and The Supremes? You’re ‘avin a larrrf luv.
Growing up on Tamla in London in the 60's and 70's, my mom and dad schooled me (thank Goddess my folks weren't into glam rock; I'd be lost!). But I've never heard this; I like its honesty...
God I love her voice. She was tossed into the street like a bag of trash. A vulgar injustice to a beautiful soul. Rest in perfect peace Flo, we still love you. Know that I will never abandoned you, not for anything. She had the best voice of the group and should have lead the Supremes to success. I have a hard time listening to the Supremes because I have such bitter feelings for Diana Ross. Flo, I still love you Baby, always will.
I hear ya. Back in December of '65, I was a grade school kid living in Houston Texas. Our neighbors came over one day to excitedly tell us they saw the Supremes being escorted into the Astrodome for a concert with Judy Garland. They said they yelled "Hey, hello Supremes!" and that Diana and Mary rushed on by without looking up, but Florence stopped briefly, looked over directly at them, and smiled and waved at them before following the other girls. No wonder Flo was a favorite of the fans!
I just looked this up on Wikipedia, "...In 1974 Mary Wilson invited Ballard to rejoin the Supremes, which now included Cindy Birdsong and Scherrie Payne (Ross had left for her successful solo career in 1970). Though Ballard played tambourine, she didn't sing and told Wilson she had no ambition to sing any more..." I thought that she desperately wanted to be the lead singer for the Supremes! I also read the following info about Scherrie Payne, "...As a new Supreme in an era when their popularity was waning, Scherrie Payne often remained quiet during interviews with the group; mainly because four years later, reporters were still asking about Diana Ross. When she arrived, original Supreme Mary Wilson and 1960s Supreme Cindy Birdsong were the other two members of the group. Payne contributed powerful vocals and attitude to the group, with Birdsong and Wilson backing her up very well. Payne gained recognition for her vocals in the single "He's My Man" (which also featured vocals by Mary Wilson) and "It's All Been Said Before", both taken from the album The Supremes. An accomplished songwriter, Payne was never able to write any special material for The Supremes, which reportedly disappointed her." This paragraph from Wikipedia tells me the main reason why Florence did not want to come back to the the Supremes to sing! It's because Scherrie Payne was the lead singer of the group at that time! It said that Scherrie Payne contributed powerful vocals and attitude to the group! Oh, that's why Mary Wilson did not invite Florence back to the Supremes to be the lead singer! That must have really depressed Florence Ballard! That puts the pieces together for me. She was heartbroken to not be called back to be the lead singer of the Supremes, because she felt that the only one standing in her way of being the lead singer was Diana Ross. So, there is no reason to hate Diana Ross. This tells me that Mary Wilson also thought that Florence was only backup singer material! And, as a final thought, Freda Payne was Scherrie Payne's sister! It was also said in the Wikipedia article, "Payne began to realize that Motown did not really care as much about The Supremes as they had in the past, due to the changing musical tastes of the era and due to the fact that they were working to further the solo career of Diana Ross." Berry Gordy sold Motown Records in 1988. So, this tells me that Berry Gordy was still in charge of Motown. But, Berry did not have his great Motown musicians with him. Berry thought the grass was greener in California. I realize now that it was Berry Gordy who lost interest in the Supremes because Diana was his sweetheart! And, Berry saw Diana as the Supremes, and no one else! Berry had a child, I read, with Diana Ross!
Florence needed a top producer who knew how to bring out the best in her voice! Her song "Walk Around Heaven" was dynamite! The producer in the Gospel song titled "Walk Around Heaven" could not be the same producer of this song "Love ain't Love". With the Producer on "Walk Around Heaven" he would have had Berry Gordy being happy to let her sing at least half of the Supreme's songs for sure! Please go and listen to her voice on that song!! I just finished listening to the song "Walk Around Heaven" and realized that within Florence Ballard was a beautiful and deep person! She had that Aretha Franklin singing ability in her! It dawned on me that Florence stressed herself into an early grave without realizing that she was a champ on top of the world!
I still believe that Flo was possibly the best vocalist in the Supremes and even after her Motown days she could still belt out a great tune, as this proves.
What a travesty flo had a great voice but she was side lined for diana who was sleeping with the boss she was old enough to be his daughter. Before florence and Mary knew it they were demoted to being just backing singers for Diana.
It was not common knowledge - no one wanted to work with Flo. She got a crap deal at ABC 15,000...a joke. Mary Wells got 250,000. When she left Motown. Flo had. a LOUD voice, but not a great or special voice and her talent as a vocalist was marginal at next. Aretha’s WORST vocal is better than Flo’s best. No labels wanted her when she left the Supremes, and no producers wanted to record her. Even all the labels in Detroit, even Holland dozer Holland, didn’t try to record her after they left Motown. there’s a reason why. She wasn’t that good. I loved her., But there was nothing special about her voice or her talent.
I love love love this song!!I wish I would have known about this song earlier I would have been telling more people about it!!! She sounds great this song should have been a hit!!! But that's okay yall we going to listen to it now an I will appreciate it Now!! ❤💝 you Florence Ballard!!!
To protect the Motown mystique, Motown made influential disc jockeys choose between the newest Motown releases and this. Motown effectively squashed Florence's solo efforts. _Love ain't love_ and _it doesn't matter how you say it_ could have both been huge hits for Florence with the proper promotion.
I can just picture our beloved Florence singing this on a Shindig/Hullabaloo/It's What's Happening Baby- type show singing this surrounded by dancers in cages and go go boots.
Rip Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson you all are and always be the Foundation of the Supremes . I wondered if today Diana Ross keeps in contact with any of Florence Ballards Daughters?. It seems Mary Wilson was heartbroken of Florence's Death more than Diana was .
Diana was all about herself. I read somewhere she showed up at Flo's homegoing showboating and crying crocodile tears. She was Berry Gordy's side piece for years, and he knocked her up with her first child, Rhonda. To hell with her.
@iamladeegee8032 Your Absolutely Right about that. So is Diana Ross everything is always about her . If I was Flo's family I would have not let Diana come to Flo's funeral at all.
@@user-lo9fo1xq8q Florence Ballard was too depressed about Berry Gordy removing her as the lead singer, and choosing Diana Ross as the lead singer. This caused her to keep complaining to Berry about it. So, Berry got angry, and fired her from the group! She should have went to the songwriters and requested that they insert in a dual lead role on a song or two to test it out. There is smart and tactful ways of doing things instead of constant complaining!
@@omarpasha2968 it’s simple really. Flo didn’t have the right, commercial, crossover voice that Berry was looking for. Flo’s voice was pretty much the same as hundreds of other singers around at the time. Diana had the voice and charisma. Flo wasn’t removed as lead singer by Gordy. If you look on old recordings of The Primettes you’ll hear that all the girls, apart from Betty, sang lead at some point not just Flo.. You say Flo was complaining, but she wasn’t complaining when the group started having hit after hit with Diana on lead and they ALL started getting preferential treatment…none of those hits would have hit the spot with Flo on the lead. Berry didn’t fire Flo just for complaining. He fired her because she was insubordinate and unprofessional. She didn’t show up for some shows, and even on occasion, only Diana and Mary appeared. Marlene Barrow had to step in for Flo on occasion too because she didn’t show up. She was given a lot of chances to get herself together, but she just became more and more stubborn. It was Mary who started the ball rolling which resulted in Flo losing her place in the group.. …but I digress from my original question , as did you. I simply asked you for the link to her song “Walk Around Heaven” which you say was dynamite. I can’t find it
@@user-lo9fo1xq8q Me and you are victims of misinformation! If you put together my information and your information, then we can get closer to the truth. Now, I can see that she was insubordinate and unprofessional, and didn’t show up for some shows because her complaint about being replaced as the lead singer was not being addressed by Gordy! Thanks for your input! And, I found out that the song "Walk Around Heaven" was not sung by Florence Ballard!
It's a damn shame that she couldn't use her own groups and name, to put her solo album out,bShe wasn't allowed to release it, as Florence Ballard from The Supremes, because she took a solo, so nobody really knew who she was, just on record, my favorite song by her is "A Song aint Song & a Life ain't a Life " and Sam's Cook's "Ain't That Good News" I loved all her songs, "Yesterday", "Walk On By" but my absolute favorite was"And I think I'm going out of my head"ewwwwwww child, she sung that dog shit out that song
Weird how Florence and Paul Williams were the leads in their groups, then pushed back and out, and both drifted into despair. Both also started drinking and would not get it under control either, or else they both could have remained in their groups.
Just goes to show that success in that business has just as much to do with how you play the "game" if not more than "talent." I just hate that she wouldn't listen to Mary and hang in there. As one-third of the #1 group with a voice like hers, she could have easily co-lead 70s Supremes songs right along with Jean Terrell. There were definitely some mental issues going on that may have taken professional help to deal with.
Flo had been raped in 1969 and only told Diane and Mary about what happened. She never spoke about it afterwards. If there had been support services for depression and alcoholism back then as we have now, I believe she could've gotten thru it all. Granted, she did go to the Betty Ford clinic, but she needed intensive therapy to heal her inner self from the trauma she experienced.
@@Kenistyless You may beg all you like, but the pic at the end (AFTER the pic of Flo with Mary, wearing fur) IS of Flo with Cindy. It’s a well known picture of the two together. The pic is shown as the track fades out. If you don’t know the difference between Mary and Cindy, then you don’t know The Supremes!
It's sad how she never got her money, and the trust fund was taken from her children. Knowing that she read her Bible brings peace to my heart that she's in a better place. 🕊🦋
She got her Motown money but, lawyers stole a lot of it and so did the IRS. The music industry is rough. ABC records did nothing for their black artists. White labels gave low priority to the black artists.
This company did not have what it took for her voice. The material was poor I am sorry!! Too bad she couldn't find the right talented team for her true talent.
I always wondered why they gave her these mediocre songs nothing that had that "wow" factor. When Flo. Sang lead on Ain't That Good News she sounded in good spirits giving it her all. Flo does not sound vibrant on these records
I think Love Ain't Love could have been a huge hit had Motown not played politics against Flo. This song was perfect for Florence and very much on trend for the late 60s. After Florence left the Supremes, Berry Gordy considered signing her as a solo artist, but she ultimately severed all ties and left the label. Barry wasn't about to have Florence succeeding on another label. Could have weakened the Motown mystique.
Not IMO as someone, who has sung, played music, produced and recorded it Flo Ballard has nothing special to her voice. Diana Ross had a unique pop sound. Flo Ballard was flat musically & emotionally. Flo Ballard's performance doesn't feel the lyrics. You're obviously tone deaf. The era of the 60's and 70's had some tremendous female singers and unique vocalists. The pack was filled with outrageous talent and deep competition. Carolyn Crawford, Minnie Riperton, Chaka Khan, Shirley Bassey, Dionne Warwick, Brenda Lee, Mavis Staples, Bonnie Pointer, Cher, Tina Turner, for instance, all different but memorable.
Let's be real: As much as we like to root for Flo, her voice was average, at best. Hers didn't have the star quality that Diana's did. But I loved her spunk.
motown was not a good fit for her, she was more blues than pop, her voice is strong, sultry and deep, these songs dont fit her style nor the music, they didnt know how to market this talent
Flo Ballard wasn't bluesy or soulful enough for Stax or Afretha Franklin's label. Aretha & Carla Thomas were killing it around this time. Meanwhile at Mowtown Gladys Knight, Tammi Terrell and Kim Weston were carving out their unique place with their unique styles. Flo Ballard didn't really stand out. She could have gotten her drinking under control and focused on songwriting. She didn't have that drive to keep going like Tina Turner. Sometimes that's what it takes being relentless. Its more vital than having talent. Everybody ain't built to be upfront. Being light skin wasn't enough you needed talent & a ferocious work ethic back then to stand apart from the pack.
@@ctruth6185 Flo had been raped in 1969 by a dude she knew, and as a result, she internalized that trauma. Back then, there weren't places that dealt with women's traumas, so many women, like Flo, kept it all buried deep inside, but the results of such trauma can cause a change in personality, depression and substance abuse (drugs, alcohol) and lowered self-esteem, and sometimes, promiscuity. Tammi Terrell was also a rape victim, and she acted out being promiscuous. She also suffered from brain cancer, which can also affect one's personality.
Just my opinion, but this isnt a hit because it lacks a strong hook to go along with the vocal. Flo sounds great but the overall arrangement sounds like a filler album track or b-side. I can hear why this didn't get radio play.
Florence was an amazing background singer. As a lead, she was sadly very mediocre, as was Mary Wilson. The Supremes went where Diana Ross took them. They could only follow in her wake.
How did this not make the top 40? Just unbelievable. This performance is fantastic!.
Linda, maravilhosa, poderosa, talentosa, divina, eterna....❤❤❤ ❤ Amo muito você Flo.. inesquecível.. bjsss carinhosos minha linda
Beautiful voice but her songs didn't make number one hits..
@@gayleenthomas1254 Lack of financial backing was the reason why? She did not have the right people around her who could have sustained her.
Florence Ballard will always be the TRUE SUPREME. We love you Florence Ballard.
TRUE SUPREME!! A agree with you David 💯💯🌹❤️.SIP Florence blondie 🕊️❤️🌹
She was "the Supreme" although her talents were overshadowed by another member in that group who basically made it to the top at Motown on their back versus their talents.
My favorite Supreme and the heart and soul of the group. RIP Miss Florence.
AMAZING I agree 💯
@@lillianmunster4734 I agree too love you Miss Florence Ballard 💛💙💗❤💜🖤💚💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
Gorgeous soulful voice. A true talent.
I think about her story everyday.. she didn't deserve the way she was treated by people rest in peace florence ballard 🥲🙏❤️
Today is 30th, june 2014. Happy Birthday Flo!!!!!. I love you a lot!!!!!. R.I.P. babe.
This is good...Flo sounds really good. Big potential hit went overlooked.
What an AMAZING voice. My God.
Yes AMEN RIP Flo SIP🕊️❤️
Such a beautiful and romantic song ❤
RIP Flo, you left us far too soon!
I appriciate these personal photos being displayed in this video...R.I.P
to my very first idol. circa 1963..Florence Ballad-Chapman.
I like the photos too 🕊️ SIP Florence blondie 🕊️
Soulful Florence Ballard. Florence Ballard and the Supremes it should have been. She was a natural beauty ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Florence didn’t have a voice to carry the hits that Diana led on. Can you honestly hear Flo singing Baby Love or Where Did Our Love Go? Flo Ballard and The Supremes? You’re ‘avin a larrrf luv.
@@user-lo9fo1xq8q you're tone deaf you idiot ...
I Agree 💯 RIP Florence blondie 🕊️❤️
Happy birthday to you Florence Ballard. Keep on sangin baby sing on with the angels in heaven, love you Florence Ballard.
Flo is the best supreme! I missing you Flo
Me tooooooo RIP Florence blondie 🕊️❤️ SIP 🕊️. Thanks for this post walber👍
FLORENCE! I LOVE YOU BABY.
Buying the Supreme Florence Ballard on CD: one of my favourite purchases of all time.
Growing up on Tamla in London in the 60's and 70's, my mom and dad schooled me (thank Goddess my folks weren't into glam rock; I'd be lost!). But I've never heard this; I like its honesty...
awsome song one of her best it also has a good hook
My favorite Flo Ballard song
Our favorite Flo Ballard song ❤ because it is my favorite too ❤!!@
God I love her voice. She was tossed into the street like a bag of trash. A vulgar injustice to a beautiful soul. Rest in perfect peace Flo, we still love you. Know that I will never abandoned you, not for anything. She had the best voice of the group and should have lead the Supremes to success. I have a hard time listening to the Supremes because I have such bitter feelings for Diana Ross. Flo, I still love you Baby, always will.
I hear ya. Back in December of '65, I was a grade school kid living in Houston Texas. Our neighbors came over one day to excitedly tell us they saw the Supremes being escorted into the Astrodome for a concert with Judy Garland. They said they yelled "Hey, hello Supremes!" and that Diana and Mary rushed on by without looking up, but Florence stopped briefly, looked over directly at them, and smiled and waved at them before following the other girls. No wonder Flo was a favorite of the fans!
@David Barney Grow the fuck up. How old are you? 12?
David Barney so true
I just looked this up on Wikipedia, "...In 1974 Mary Wilson invited Ballard to rejoin the Supremes, which now included Cindy Birdsong and Scherrie Payne (Ross had left for her successful solo career in 1970). Though Ballard played tambourine, she didn't sing and told Wilson she had no ambition to sing any more..." I thought that she desperately wanted to be the lead singer for the Supremes! I also read the following info about Scherrie Payne, "...As a new Supreme in an era when their popularity was waning, Scherrie Payne often remained quiet during interviews with the group; mainly because four years later, reporters were still asking about Diana Ross. When she arrived, original Supreme Mary Wilson and 1960s Supreme Cindy Birdsong were the other two members of the group. Payne contributed powerful vocals and attitude to the group, with Birdsong and Wilson backing her up very well. Payne gained recognition for her vocals in the single "He's My Man" (which also featured vocals by Mary Wilson) and "It's All Been Said Before", both taken from the album The Supremes. An accomplished songwriter, Payne was never able to write any special material for The Supremes, which reportedly disappointed her." This paragraph from Wikipedia tells me the main reason why Florence did not want to come back to the the Supremes to sing! It's because Scherrie Payne was the lead singer of the group at that time! It said that Scherrie Payne contributed powerful vocals and attitude to the group! Oh, that's why Mary Wilson did not invite Florence back to the Supremes to be the lead singer! That must have really depressed Florence Ballard! That puts the pieces together for me. She was heartbroken to not be called back to be the lead singer of the Supremes, because she felt that the only one standing in her way of being the lead singer was Diana Ross. So, there is no reason to hate Diana Ross. This tells me that Mary Wilson also thought that Florence was only backup singer material! And, as a final thought, Freda Payne was Scherrie Payne's sister! It was also said in the Wikipedia article, "Payne began to realize that Motown did not really care as much about The Supremes as they had in the past, due to the changing musical tastes of the era and due to the fact that they were working to further the solo career of Diana Ross." Berry Gordy sold Motown Records in 1988. So, this tells me that Berry Gordy was still in charge of Motown. But, Berry did not have his great Motown musicians with him. Berry thought the grass was greener in California. I realize now that it was Berry Gordy who lost interest in the Supremes because Diana was his sweetheart! And, Berry saw Diana as the Supremes, and no one else! Berry had a child, I read, with Diana Ross!
Florence needed a top producer who knew how to bring out the best in her voice! Her song "Walk Around Heaven" was dynamite! The producer in the Gospel song titled "Walk Around Heaven" could not be the same producer of this song "Love ain't Love". With the Producer on "Walk Around Heaven" he would have had Berry Gordy being happy to let her sing at least half of the Supreme's songs for sure! Please go and listen to her voice on that song!! I just finished listening to the song "Walk Around Heaven" and realized that within Florence Ballard was a beautiful and deep person! She had that Aretha Franklin singing ability in her! It dawned on me that Florence stressed herself into an early grave without realizing that she was a champ on top of the world!
WOW... this is new to my ears for the very first time.
I still believe that Flo was possibly the best vocalist in the Supremes and even after her Motown days she could still belt out a great tune, as this proves.
I agree 100% Steve!
I agree absolutey Steve!
What a travesty flo had a great voice but she was side lined for diana who was sleeping with the boss she was old enough to be his daughter. Before florence and Mary knew it they were demoted to being just backing singers for Diana.
Easily the best voice in the Supremes. That was common knowledge.
It was not common knowledge - no one wanted to work with Flo. She got a crap deal at ABC 15,000...a joke. Mary Wells got 250,000. When she left Motown. Flo had. a LOUD voice, but not a great or special voice and her talent as a vocalist was marginal at next. Aretha’s WORST vocal is better than Flo’s best. No labels wanted her when she left the Supremes, and no producers wanted to record her. Even all the labels in Detroit, even Holland dozer Holland, didn’t try to record her after they left Motown. there’s a reason why. She wasn’t that good. I loved her., But there was nothing special about her voice or her talent.
Great song, love Miss Flo..
Beautiful voice R.I.P.
untouchable forever and ever... ... sweet flo rip
I love love love this song!!I wish I would have known about this song earlier I would have been telling more people about it!!! She sounds great this song should have been a hit!!! But that's okay yall we going to listen to it now an I will appreciate it Now!! ❤💝 you Florence Ballard!!!
I really like this song. If it had been promoted, it could have been a hit. But, apparently, it wasn't meant to be.
To protect the Motown mystique, Motown made influential disc jockeys choose between the newest Motown releases and this. Motown effectively squashed Florence's solo efforts. _Love ain't love_ and _it doesn't matter how you say it_ could have both been huge hits for Florence with the proper promotion.
Love this song.Beautiful Lady,xxxxx
Very beautiful and talented flo. Rest gently now baby girl. ❤😢
Great voice never heard it till now!
So tragic that she was never really reconized for her vocals.
Happy Birthday Flo- hope you have found peace
I like how she belts it out.
LOVE it!
Flo the best Supreme
💯💯💯 The very Best SIP Florence 🕊️🌹
I remember partying to this as a teenager.
I can just picture our beloved Florence singing this on a Shindig/Hullabaloo/It's What's Happening Baby- type show singing this surrounded by dancers in cages and go go boots.
I enjoy all her ABC Recordings
She has certain times where she sounds like Miss Warwick.
great song
Rip Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson you all are and always be the Foundation of the Supremes . I wondered if today Diana Ross keeps in contact with any of Florence Ballards Daughters?. It seems Mary Wilson was heartbroken of Florence's Death more than Diana was .
I agree Florence and Mary SIP 🕊️💕🕊️
Diana was all about herself. I read somewhere she showed up at Flo's homegoing showboating and crying crocodile tears. She was Berry Gordy's side piece for years, and he knocked her up with her first child, Rhonda. To hell with her.
@iamladeegee8032 Your Absolutely Right about that. So is Diana Ross everything is always about her . If I was Flo's family I would have not let Diana come to Flo's funeral at all.
Florence needed a top vocal arranger! Her song "Walk Around Heaven" was dynamite!
Maybe you could post the link to that track by Flo?
@@user-lo9fo1xq8q Florence Ballard was too depressed about Berry Gordy removing her as the lead singer, and choosing Diana Ross as the lead singer. This caused her to keep complaining to Berry about it. So, Berry got angry, and fired her from the group! She should have went to the songwriters and requested that they insert in a dual lead role on a song or two to test it out. There is smart and tactful ways of doing things instead of constant complaining!
@@omarpasha2968 it’s simple really. Flo didn’t have the right, commercial, crossover voice that Berry was looking for. Flo’s voice was pretty much the same as hundreds of other singers around at the time. Diana had the voice and charisma. Flo wasn’t removed as lead singer by Gordy. If you look on old recordings of The Primettes you’ll hear that all the girls, apart from Betty, sang lead at some point not just Flo..
You say Flo was complaining, but she wasn’t complaining when the group started having hit after hit with Diana on lead and they ALL started getting preferential treatment…none of those hits would have hit the spot with Flo on the lead.
Berry didn’t fire Flo just for complaining. He fired her because she was insubordinate and unprofessional. She didn’t show up for some shows, and even on occasion, only Diana and Mary appeared. Marlene Barrow had to step in for Flo on occasion too because she didn’t show up. She was given a lot of chances to get herself together, but she just became more and more stubborn. It was Mary who started the ball rolling which resulted in Flo losing her place in the group..
…but I digress from my original question , as did you. I simply asked you for the link to her song “Walk Around Heaven” which you say was dynamite. I can’t find it
@@user-lo9fo1xq8q Me and you are victims of misinformation! If you put together my information and your information, then we can get closer to the truth. Now, I can see that she was insubordinate and unprofessional, and didn’t show up for some shows because her complaint about being replaced as the lead singer was not being addressed by Gordy! Thanks for your input! And, I found out that the song "Walk Around Heaven" was not sung by Florence Ballard!
@@user-lo9fo1xq8q I just found out that was not her voice singing "Walk Around Heaven". My mistake!
She had a great voice. She was beautiful too
Awesome
she was the best singer as we now all know. shame on the first lead singer who caused so much grief to the others.
Amen!
It's a damn shame that she couldn't use her own groups and name, to put her solo album out,bShe wasn't allowed to release it, as Florence Ballard from The Supremes, because she took a solo, so nobody really knew who she was, just on record, my favorite song by her is "A Song aint Song & a Life ain't a Life " and Sam's Cook's "Ain't That Good News" I loved all her songs, "Yesterday", "Walk On By" but my absolute favorite was"And I think I'm going out of my head"ewwwwwww child, she sung that dog shit out that song
The melody is very similar to the Marvelettes "Poor little rich girl ". Both are very good arrangements.
Here's a nugget for you: While one of the Marvelettes was on maternity leave, Flo stood in for her until the Marvelette member returned.
Beautiful song! RIP Ms Florence Ballard ❤👑
red hot song by one of the red hot mamas of rock and roll
Flo was Terriffic and fantastic and awesome
I love this song. Was it produced on vinyl anywhere? Those pictures were amazing I’ve never seen them before!
This song was indeed released on vinyl as a single in September of 1968.
@@MotownFan1962, Thank you. As of yesterday I found one on eBay and purchased it. I can’t wait till it arrives!
Superbe voix
Rest in peace Florance Godbless You Amen your not forgotten Godbless you Amen 💖✌🙏💖🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌻🌻🌻🌼💐
I love this photo
❤
Flo had the voice that DR and MW did not.This woman could sing.
Weird how Florence and Paul Williams were the leads in their groups, then pushed back and out, and both drifted into despair. Both also started drinking and would not get it under control either, or else they both could have remained in their groups.
It was reported that Paul also had sickle cell anemia which in and of itself can be debilitating.
Faith Evans looks sooooo much like Florence Ballard we waiting on a Florence Ballard movie
Just goes to show that success in that business has just as much to do with how you play the "game" if not more than "talent." I just hate that she wouldn't listen to Mary and hang in there. As one-third of the #1 group with a voice like hers, she could have easily co-lead 70s Supremes songs right along with Jean Terrell. There were definitely some mental issues going on that may have taken professional help to deal with.
Flo had been raped in 1969 and only told Diane and Mary about what happened. She never spoke about it afterwards. If there had been support services for depression and alcoholism back then as we have now, I believe she could've gotten thru it all. Granted, she did go to the Betty Ford clinic, but she needed intensive therapy to heal her inner self from the trauma she experienced.
This makes no sense chronologically.
This makes no sense chronologically.
The song is OK nothing to rave about but the picture at the end of the video of Florence Ballard and Cindy Birdsong together!!
it's not Cindy WHO; IT'S Mary Wilson...hello...please don't try and trash the greats:; whoever you are!!!
@@Kenistyless Wrong! The pic at the end @ 2:29 *IS* of Flo with Cindy. Maybe you need to get your facts right before you go being nasty with people.
@@VBN997 I beg to differ; IT IS MARY WILSON...
@@Kenistyless You may beg all you like, but the pic at the end (AFTER the pic of Flo with Mary, wearing fur) IS of Flo with Cindy. It’s a well known picture of the two together. The pic is shown as the track fades out. If you don’t know the difference between Mary and Cindy, then you don’t know The Supremes!
@@VBN997 Sorry VBN, I stand corrected; you are perfectly right!!! I thought you were talking about the picture at 2:21...my fault, I apologies
It's sad how she never got her money, and the trust fund was taken from her children. Knowing that she read her Bible brings peace to my heart that she's in a better place. 🕊🦋
AMEN RIP Flo
She got her Motown money but, lawyers stole a lot of it and so did the IRS. The music industry is rough. ABC records did nothing for their black artists. White labels gave low priority to the black artists.
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Motown blacklisted Florence Ballard......also threaten radio disc Jockeys if they played her ABC singles.
sounds like mo s cutthroat shit
@@kevinjoseph517 huge Florence fan .....BUT this sounds awful .....
Bull shit. Threatened them with what exactly? This record is nothing special, it’s not bad, but it’s not great. The other single was awful.
I want it on SPOTIFY, Y'ALL HEAR ME?
Florence was never going to make it as gordy bought her contract and all her recordings from ABC
Yep. He blackballed her 100%.
Yeah, like Flo was some kind of threat? 😂😂😂😂 That old urban myth is as old as the hills
Flo was a red hot mam
This company did not have what it took for her voice. The material was poor I am sorry!! Too bad she couldn't find the right talented team for her true talent.
rip Flo besides God had something for you much better than we could imagine.
I always wondered why they gave her these mediocre songs nothing that had that "wow" factor. When Flo. Sang lead on Ain't That Good News she sounded in good spirits giving it her all. Flo does not sound vibrant on these records
I think Love Ain't Love could have been a huge hit had Motown not played politics against Flo. This song was perfect for Florence and very much on trend for the late 60s. After Florence left the Supremes, Berry Gordy considered signing her as a solo artist, but she ultimately severed all ties and left the label. Barry wasn't about to have Florence succeeding on another label. Could have weakened the Motown mystique.
@@marcusgriggs4242 AMEN 🕊️ RIP Florence 🕊️🌹
@@Tes7000 Tammi Terrell could have done this song justice.
So come on....!!!!!!
Mary would have loved to get Florence back in the mid 70s, but she sadly realized Flo was too far gone into alcoholism.
Not sure why ABC records didn't promote this record. Flo was so much of a better singer than Diana Ross.
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Not IMO as someone, who has sung, played music, produced and recorded it Flo Ballard has nothing special to her voice. Diana Ross had a unique pop sound. Flo Ballard was flat musically & emotionally. Flo Ballard's performance doesn't feel the lyrics. You're obviously tone deaf. The era of the 60's and 70's had some tremendous female singers and unique vocalists. The pack was filled with outrageous talent and deep competition. Carolyn Crawford, Minnie Riperton, Chaka Khan, Shirley Bassey, Dionne Warwick, Brenda Lee, Mavis Staples, Bonnie Pointer, Cher, Tina Turner, for instance, all different but memorable.
Why do you people keep telling that DAM lie, this sound like and old woman,it don't sound good at all.
Jck9102 Then you need your hearing tested
I have to respectfully disagree they wouldn't have made it without Diana singing lead Gordy knew what he was doing
Let's be real: As much as we like to root for Flo, her voice was average, at best. Hers didn't have the star quality that Diana's did. But I loved her spunk.
Mary was actually a better vocalist than Flo if you go back and listen to “Tears” by The Supremes.
@@HaliB75Both Flo and Mary had better voices than Ross.
motown was not a good fit for her, she was more blues than pop, her voice is strong, sultry and deep, these songs dont fit her style nor the music, they didnt know how to market this talent
Flo Ballard wasn't bluesy or soulful enough for Stax or Afretha Franklin's label. Aretha & Carla Thomas were killing it around this time. Meanwhile at Mowtown Gladys Knight, Tammi Terrell and Kim Weston were carving out their unique place with their unique styles. Flo Ballard didn't really stand out. She could have gotten her drinking under control and focused on songwriting. She didn't have that drive to keep going like Tina Turner. Sometimes that's what it takes being relentless. Its more vital than having talent. Everybody ain't built to be upfront. Being light skin wasn't enough you needed talent & a ferocious work ethic back then to stand apart from the pack.
@@ctruth6185 Flo had been raped in 1969 by a dude she knew, and as a result, she internalized that trauma. Back then, there weren't places that dealt with women's traumas, so many women, like Flo, kept it all buried deep inside, but the results of such trauma can cause a change in personality, depression and substance abuse (drugs, alcohol) and lowered self-esteem, and sometimes, promiscuity. Tammi Terrell was also a rape victim, and she acted out being promiscuous. She also suffered from brain cancer, which can also affect one's personality.
Just my opinion, but this isnt a hit because it lacks a strong hook to go along with the vocal. Flo sounds great but the overall arrangement sounds like a filler album track or b-side. I can hear why this didn't get radio play.
Florence was an amazing background singer. As a lead, she was sadly very mediocre, as was Mary Wilson. The Supremes went where Diana Ross took them. They could only follow in her wake.