Can’t believe they are charging for the upgrade! I thought it was free for Roland Fantom users. I think Yamaha and Nord are on the side of the “musicians” and not “the consumers” like Roland and Korg. But hey… To each their own 😊
The JD800 was my favourite synth because in the 90s we loved the sparkles of the Synclavier sounds. In the era of virtualization I only miss the JP8000 with its original presets. Please Roland, make it for the Cloud.
Zen-core engine can dupe JD-800 sounds on its own just fine, and with better filter options. Same goes for the "PCM engine" of Fantom-X, Fantom-G, FA keyboards, Juno-Di and Juno-DS. Upgrade to anything newer. Now, if you want more sound design controls, the only modern alternative is Jupiter-X.
That would have me buying one tonight! Having back my V Synth Gt 2 back! OMG. NO brainer purchase . I was certain they were going to come out with vocal designer. I guess I read wrong.
For 199 usd, there is a lot, for me, to be desires. I like the sound of the German Grand, Supernatural Piano, JD800, ACB additions and Cubase DAW Control. Thank you Roland.
Please update the Fantom 0 to use some of the 2GB of sampling space to allow us to install more expansions. Expansion space is severely limited. Also, please do something about the polyphony limitations. Can't sustain basic pianos layered with pads for more a single measure without sounds dropping off the cliff. Love the keyboard - but these limitation are very frustrating.
Is the 0 series limited by software? I mean. -- can polyphony & expansion storage be updated by a software patch? I agree+- polyphony is terrible on the Fantom 0 series. Creating more than 4 layers definitely maxes out the machine.
Isn't the polyphony the exact same on the fantom 0 series as the flagship fantom line? I do agree though, the way polyphony is calculated is quite misleading on these boards.
@@ReggieBishop 0 series has half or less the processing power of the flagship Fantom, supposedly. Thusly, it has less going on. Polyphony maxing out so easily is a shame. Not an issue on the older Juno-DS and FA.
Roland toujours au top . La création d’un arrangeur professionnel comme le genos Yamaha et Korg pac5x et demander mais on la trouve pas espérer un jour un clavier arrangeur haut gamme chez Roland 😊
Ya, terlalu lama Roland tidak membuat keyboard arranger profesional setelah E-A7, malah terkesan selalu membuat keyboard mainan anak.. 😂 saya masih setia dengan E-A7 😅
I don’t mind the price (although it should be free or close to free) but I dread the over complex and long instillation process. And do I need have all the other upgrades already installed before the new one?
Ok, Ok, I got it.... Sounds good, nice job on the sound sets, GUI suoer cool. Price kinda Ok. Time to buy a Fantom! The only question is this: So this was the answer for the new Montage ???😂
Can we have this kind of upgrades for let's say some cheaper stuff? I mean i would love to have it on let's say Roland groovebox or Gaia 2. I don't even think ACB needed for Fantom. It can produce a lot of sounds on it's own (that's why it's like 4 grands in Europe), so why bother? But for some smaller cheaper synth it would be a life saver!
Sound amazing! Where can I buy it? The Roland Fantom website sends me to Roland Cloud Manager but I can not see there the option to buy the EX Upgrade :(
2 things We want either the JP8000 or V-Synth to return. And, from what I've seen, the install process for this is a complete nightmare. Please fix this. Also, as I understand it, if you install this, and then later sell your Fantom, if the new owner registers it, it wipes out the upgrade with no hope of getting it back except for the new owner to buy it. Everyone keep that in mind.
Both the Jupiter-X and Juno-X have their own unique front panels, which you can't really replicate with the Fantom. You can get close functionally, but it will never be a 100% substitute.
@@ReggieBishop Which is considerably more expensive and defeats the point of buying Fantom-0 (which is spending less, I don't know how you missed that).
@@Jason75913because of hardware and software limitations - there's no affordable upgrade path for Fantom 0 series users that gives you the power of a Fantom EX. I have a Fantom 07. I would have to buy the Fantom EX 7 for $3,699.99. The Montage M 7 is $3,999.99 --- ONLY $300 MORE. The Yamaha is more attractive at that price point.
Does anyone know if a sound from the Fantom G can be downloaded into the Fantom? I have both a Fantom G and a Fantom but there's one particular sound in the Fantom G that I don't want to lose. (I'll be selling the Fantom G now that I've got the Fantom to replace it).
Zen-Core has a lot of sounds from past Roland synths. But those are more legacy sounds. My suggestion would be to sample the patch or sample the partials from your Fantom-G, note down the settings and recreate it within the new FANTOM.
is there any rhythm? or styles in this keyboard like Yamaha workstation???? sound quality no doubt too good.. but I am a user of workstation like Yamaha hai s970 sx700 900
Literally no Synths beat Yamaha sounds and its Articulattions 😌.... for instance Yamaha Tyros 5 and Genos (Arranger keyboards) AND of course Yamaha Montage 2016 and Now the real beast, literally, without any exaggeration and bias, Montage M series..... takes the win easily and righteously. In case if acoustic sounds, i believe almost everyone agree that Yamaha is/has been number One for many decades Although I personally own Kronos 2 and Fantom O-8..... beside Montage, Tyros 5 and Genos.... they are truly incredible in many aspects... BUT Yamaha sounds is something else....and the most important thing in a keyboard whether it's Synth or Workstation or Arranger... is quality and versatility of the sounds and sound making features such as layering, effects, ( digital or analog or analog emulator) DSP and etc. In case of user interface and the "Flow"... Korg, Roland in some cases do much better.... (not always of course ) But at the end.... Sound quality and the Articulations of Yamaha is incomparable .Period By the way sequencer in Yamaha montage M series is incredible in every aspect... if you don't believe me please try it yourself dears.... I love all the major brands and their innovations but when a product is indeed near perfect, we have to respect it and accepted until the next major product In terms of price, not so much satisfaction 😕😕
Lmao, actually quite the reverse for me. I’ve had my M8X for 3 weeks, love it, especially the pianos. I also own the Kronos and NordS3, for sound quality, Kronos is still king for me, with the exception of some pianos and organ sounds. M8X has awesome acoustic guitar, and pianos, but Kronos still has the edge in synth, it’s still way deeper, richer sounding, and of course those 16 audio tracks and top quality effects are still unmatched in my opinion… But to each their own…
@@bigcdubDo you like the pianos in the Montage M more than in the Nord. Im curious, because I had the Motif XS for 10years before I bought the Nord Stage 3 and I think the Nord killed the Motif when it comes to pianosounds. Then I bought a Roland RD-2000 because I really missed some of the DX sounds in my Motif, but became utterly shocked by how incredibly synthetic and unrealistic the Roland pianos sounded next to the Nord. I’m not saying this to be critical towards the Montage, but as I say; I’m curious. If the Montage pianos sounds anywhere close to as organic as the Nord then to buy a Montage is a nobrainer for me. I don’t care for the stringsounds, guitar sounds or accordion-sounds, I use real musicians for that task….
@@theclaverman I like some of them more, not all, and there’s still some in my Kronos I like better, all these boards have certain sounds that they do better than the others, that’s why I have to have all I can…
Absolutely you should get a Fantom. I got mine earlier this year and I love it. I got the Fantom 8 and the keys feel awesome. I played a 7 and even though I also have a Roland XP80 76 key, semi weighted, I found that I prefer the fully weighted keys on the 8 rather than the synth feel on the 7.
Why can't they look at who's registered their expensive hardware and software? And give them something back free of charge? Glad I don't have Roland hardware anymore, they are money grabbing crooks! And they still can't get a good piano sound? Instead they go for these plastic sounding 'perfect' piano sounds, what about felt piano sounds? Old character pianos that aren't supposed to emulate £100k grand pianos - like Nord? Bandits 😂
Yep - their pianos all sound the same.... Still hard and plastic sounding....I'd love an old characterful upright - but not V-Piano - but a new sampled one... I don't think they've sampled a piano since the 90s. 😂
roland first of fix the aftertouch isue in the fantoms or accept it that is a enginering failure ... we all know is a Hardware problem i buyed my fantom 7 specialy for the aftertouch option.on every new product always the same people same faces arround youtube videos .it feels just so unreal.when i pay 4000 for a flagship instrument then i wait for a real update and free of charge .anyway for me its finish i will no more longer support any companys who dont respect there customers it doesnt matther even if fantom ex 10000 is out in the mean time a flagship instrument should have a good reverb already inside and we shuld not pay anything for this the same goes for the polyphonie !
Your definition of far superior is? Nord has very low dynamic range, maybe 4 sampled layers. Roland has 16 thousand per key stroke. I've played both and Roland's new German modeled piano is phenomenal. Nord piano sounds natural and very nice. Beautiful to record with, but not for serious playing and controlling dynamics of nuances.
@@ItsThatJahncke2 "not for serious playing and controlling dynamics of nuances" I've never heard of this, and likely no one but you has, apparently. I also don't know why someone wanting Nord quality (or comparable) doesn't just get a Nord, FP90X, P-515, SV-2, YC88, etc., instead of looking at workstation keyboards. Absurd.
@@Jason75913 Both me and my musicians agree that Nord stage 4 key action is not great for Dynamics. I don't have any experience with the Nord Grand. You get a workstation for idea flows and sound creation on the Roland phantom synth engines are phenomenal. You choose what works best for ya baby girl
@@Jason75913 I'm talking about the alright key action of the Nord stage 4. Maybe the Nord grand 2 is better with dynamics, but the stage 4 just ain't it, felt off and my musician group agreed. Beautiful sounding though
Yeah before I would say the same like one brand kicks the other brand etc but finally it’s all about flavour. We can’t say from sound engine if one is better than the other because I for example I always preferred Roland and Korg sounds…Yamaha I like the vl and nothing eslse… So voila
I don’t think so. First I want to say that it is not about killing other instruments, all of them could be good tools. On the other hand, in my humble opinion, I like Roland synth, specially the filter (analog filter in a workstation should be the standard), although regarding acoustic instruments Yamaha is excellent, specially pianos and orchestral sounds now. I don’t own a Yamaha but their last board called my attention, not only because of the acoustic sounds, but also because the synth engine is better sounding than before.
I have the fantom and also a montage plan to get an M. and yes they are great tools .But if was to pick one over the other I would go Roland for a number of reasons.Yamaha is getting there and maybe by the time they reach M XS according to their business module they will be just as good or even better but for now Roland is king@@Donetur
For 199 usd, there is a lot, for me, to be desires. I like the sound of the German Grand, Supernatural Piano, JD800, ACB additions and Cubase DAW Control. Thank you Roland.
Great, but at usd 199, Roland should give a discount for those customers who paid 149 usd for n/Zyme model expansion.
No kidding. I just bought n/Zyme 2 months ago.
Agreed
🤣Get that wallet out and support your underpowered Fantom.
Can’t believe they are charging for the upgrade! I thought it was free for Roland Fantom users. I think Yamaha and Nord are on the side of the “musicians” and not “the consumers” like Roland and Korg. But hey… To each their own 😊
Most definitely!!! Times are rough now!!! But I’ll still get it!!!
The JD800 was my favourite synth because in the 90s we loved the sparkles of the Synclavier sounds. In the era of virtualization I only miss the JP8000 with its original presets. Please Roland, make it for the Cloud.
Loved that board except for when the internal battery would go out
I still have the JD800.... I just call it, The Poti Porn 😂
Zen-core engine can dupe JD-800 sounds on its own just fine, and with better filter options.
Same goes for the "PCM engine" of Fantom-X, Fantom-G, FA keyboards, Juno-Di and Juno-DS.
Upgrade to anything newer.
Now, if you want more sound design controls, the only modern alternative is Jupiter-X.
This sounds amazing. It makes me want to go back to keyboard creating/produicing instead of a DAW!
I think I'll be upgrading. Looks it'll be a nice Christmas gift. I really love the JD800.
I really wished they would of made the vocal designer expansion work in the fantom! ❤
That would have me buying one tonight! Having back my V Synth Gt 2 back! OMG. NO brainer purchase . I was certain they were going to come out with vocal designer. I guess I read wrong.
@Curious_Skeptic maybe someday soon? It's definitely possible! Kinda sad how companies hold back to sell it on the NEXT ONE! 🙄
For 199 usd, there is a lot, for me, to be desires. I like the sound of the German Grand, Supernatural Piano, JD800, ACB additions and Cubase DAW Control.
Thank you Roland.
I wonder if they fixed the polyphony issue 🤔
I hope that the EX upgrade or a part of it will be available for the Fantom 0 series. This is a great upgrade.
Fantom-0 is much cheaper for a lot of reasons, including less memory and half or less the processing power of the flagship Fantom.
Please update the Fantom 0 to use some of the 2GB of sampling space to allow us to install more expansions. Expansion space is severely limited. Also, please do something about the polyphony limitations. Can't sustain basic pianos layered with pads for more a single measure without sounds dropping off the cliff. Love the keyboard - but these limitation are very frustrating.
Is the 0 series limited by software? I mean. -- can polyphony & expansion storage be updated by a software patch? I agree+- polyphony is terrible on the Fantom 0 series. Creating more than 4 layers definitely maxes out the machine.
Isn't the polyphony the exact same on the fantom 0 series as the flagship fantom line? I do agree though, the way polyphony is calculated is quite misleading on these boards.
@@tomp9002the flagship has the v piano that runs on its own chip or something. They should’ve allocated all the pianos to that tbh
@@ReggieBishop 0 series has half or less the processing power of the flagship Fantom, supposedly. Thusly, it has less going on. Polyphony maxing out so easily is a shame. Not an issue on the older Juno-DS and FA.
fantom 6 does not show bpm loop to insert the loop. like fantom g6 . so pls update this feature
Superbe piano !! 👍
Roland toujours au top . La création d’un arrangeur professionnel comme le genos Yamaha et Korg pac5x et demander mais on la trouve pas espérer un jour un clavier arrangeur haut gamme chez Roland 😊
Ya, terlalu lama Roland tidak membuat keyboard arranger profesional setelah E-A7, malah terkesan selalu membuat keyboard mainan anak.. 😂 saya masih setia dengan E-A7 😅
Sounds absolutely amazing.
100
I don’t mind the price (although it should be free or close to free) but I dread the over complex and long instillation process. And do I need have all the other upgrades already installed before the new one?
I wish there was Fantom 3 EX but I could go with the Fantom 6 EX. They have a Really Nice Sounds.
My upgrade did not include the ACB SH101???
Mmmmmmm. Now I want a Fantom!
Any upgrade for a Fantom 0 Series?
Fantom 0 is a ZERO benefit...
JD-800,the best digital pads.
When will we have the new DCB expansion for fantom?(D-50,jv1080,canvas...etc)🙏
So we have to buy N/Zyme a second time?? THERE BETTER BE A DISCOUNT, ROLAND!!!!!
Yes! I received a mail from roland's customer support after asking for this. They sent me a 50% discount.
That is a good deal.
Good for Roland👍
Maravilhoso...pra mim melhor que montage m
Ok, Ok, I got it.... Sounds good, nice job on the sound sets, GUI suoer cool. Price kinda Ok. Time to buy a Fantom!
The only question is this:
So this was the answer for the new Montage ???😂
Great. Is it possible to access the pdf manuals before buying ? On Roland site , the manuals are the old ones. Will you upload them ?Thanks.
Yes
Can we have this kind of upgrades for let's say some cheaper stuff? I mean i would love to have it on let's say Roland groovebox or Gaia 2. I don't even think ACB needed for Fantom. It can produce a lot of sounds on it's own (that's why it's like 4 grands in Europe), so why bother? But for some smaller cheaper synth it would be a life saver!
Hi what is the cost of this update in the UK, only I cant even find it on Roland's own site. Regards Andy
what's the different for the Plugin Versions? Sonicallywise they are the same right?
Will the new ones come preloaded with EX?
I just bought one, and no, it didn't come with EX loaded, nor did they provide a coupon or discount.
New EX version has everything. A new regular Fantom, nope.
Where is SH-101 ACB model? I downloaded package and only ACB model in file is JP8
Never mind. I found a foot note saying SH-101 will be released in December.
Sound amazing! Where can I buy it? The Roland Fantom website sends me to Roland Cloud Manager but I can not see there the option to buy the EX Upgrade :(
We demand the D-50 expansion, with DCB emulation, please🎹
Just took a fantom 08 without knowing the polyphonic limitations 🥺
Yep there all the same just more or less keys but with the same sounds engine.
Can Fantom O users at least get the Daw integration upgrade for Studio One & Cubase?????
I dont understand really, so there is a Small Touchscreen Synth in a Big synth? Why is that?
Installed the update, but there is no JD800 and no ACB on the machine....
2 things
We want either the JP8000 or V-Synth to return. And, from what I've seen, the install process for this is a complete nightmare. Please fix this. Also, as I understand it, if you install this, and then later sell your Fantom, if the new owner registers it, it wipes out the upgrade with no hope of getting it back except for the new owner to buy it. Everyone keep that in mind.
Does this upgrade make Jupiter x obsolete? I have been thinking of adding Jupiter x to my fantom.
Both the Jupiter-X and Juno-X have their own unique front panels, which you can't really replicate with the Fantom. You can get close functionally, but it will never be a 100% substitute.
C’è qualcuno che mi può dire se prima di installare il nuovo aggiornamento 3.02 bisogna installare quelli precedenti?
Grazie
PLEASE!! PUT THE SUPERNATURAL A. PIANO 3 ON SALE FOR FANTOM 0
And still you guys didn’t add all the supernatural tones and supernatural drums. How absurd.
Fantom 0 series ???
Fantom 0 users = Buy the Montage M
@@ReggieBishop Which is considerably more expensive and defeats the point of buying Fantom-0 (which is spending less, I don't know how you missed that).
@@Jason75913because of hardware and software limitations - there's no affordable upgrade path for Fantom 0 series users that gives you the power of a Fantom EX. I have a Fantom 07. I would have to buy the Fantom EX 7 for $3,699.99. The Montage M 7 is $3,999.99 --- ONLY $300 MORE. The Yamaha is more attractive at that price point.
How to get this upgrade I could not find it on Roland Cloud.
You have to update the application (RolandCloud Manager) on your computer.
Pra fantom 0 ,haverá algo?
Buena suerte, amiguito
Does anyone know if a sound from the Fantom G can be downloaded into the Fantom? I have both a Fantom G and a Fantom but there's one particular sound in the Fantom G that I don't want to lose. (I'll be selling the Fantom G now that I've got the Fantom to replace it).
Zen-Core has a lot of sounds from past Roland synths. But those are more legacy sounds. My suggestion would be to sample the patch or sample the partials from your Fantom-G, note down the settings and recreate it within the new FANTOM.
Phantom EX update removes or updates previously installed 4 Model Expansion - JUPITER8, JUNO106, JX8P, SH101?
They stayed in mine I updated yesterday.
@@Kulric send me EX UPDATE ?
@@RafaKeyss you have to buy it from Roland. Well worth it in my opinion.
is there any rhythm? or styles in this keyboard like Yamaha workstation????
sound quality no doubt too good..
but I am a user of workstation
like Yamaha hai
s970
sx700 900
There is no replacing those Yamaha arrangers with any workstation like Fantom, Montage, MODX, or Motifs, never ever.
Kapan Roland mau membuat keyboard profesional arranger lagi setelah E-A7? Merk sebelah sudah jauh melangkah.. 😢
Será que supera o korg kronos 2.?
Acho que não
En procesamiento no, kronos sigue siendo el más potente, en funciones, utilidad, modernidad y workflow, es totalmente mejor el Fantom
Can someone please tell me which keyboard in Roland is equivalent to psr sx900 or korg pa1000...??
None
I feel cashcowed.
I really don’t want an open source
workstation…I’ll keep my X6.
Open source?
That only applies to Korg's Minilogues, Prologue, Drumlogue, and the little NTS toys they've been making.
Literally no Synths beat Yamaha sounds and its Articulattions 😌....
for instance Yamaha Tyros 5 and Genos (Arranger keyboards) AND of course Yamaha Montage 2016 and Now the real beast, literally, without any exaggeration and bias, Montage M series..... takes the win easily and righteously.
In case if acoustic sounds, i believe almost everyone agree that Yamaha is/has been number One for many decades
Although I personally own Kronos 2 and Fantom O-8..... beside Montage, Tyros 5 and Genos.... they are truly incredible in many aspects... BUT Yamaha sounds is something else....and the most important thing in a keyboard whether it's Synth or Workstation or Arranger... is quality and versatility of the sounds and sound making features such as layering, effects, ( digital or analog or analog emulator) DSP and etc.
In case of user interface and the "Flow"...
Korg, Roland in some cases do much better.... (not always of course )
But at the end.... Sound quality and the Articulations of Yamaha is incomparable .Period
By the way sequencer in Yamaha montage M series is incredible in every aspect... if you don't believe me please try it yourself dears....
I love all the major brands and their innovations but when a product is indeed near perfect, we have to respect it and accepted until the next major product
In terms of price, not so much satisfaction 😕😕
Lmao, actually quite the reverse for me. I’ve had my M8X for 3 weeks, love it, especially the pianos. I also own the Kronos and NordS3, for sound quality, Kronos is still king for me, with the exception of some pianos and organ sounds. M8X has awesome acoustic guitar, and pianos, but Kronos still has the edge in synth, it’s still way deeper, richer sounding, and of course those 16 audio tracks and top quality effects are still unmatched in my opinion… But to each their own…
@@bigcdubDo you like the pianos in the Montage M more than in the Nord. Im curious, because I had the Motif XS for 10years before I bought the Nord Stage 3 and I think the Nord killed the Motif when it comes to pianosounds. Then I bought a Roland RD-2000 because I really missed some of the DX sounds in my Motif, but became utterly shocked by how incredibly synthetic and unrealistic the Roland pianos sounded next to the Nord. I’m not saying this to be critical towards the Montage, but as I say; I’m curious. If the Montage pianos sounds anywhere close to as organic as the Nord then to buy a Montage is a nobrainer for me. I don’t care for the stringsounds, guitar sounds or accordion-sounds, I use real musicians for that task….
@@theclaverman I like some of them more, not all, and there’s still some in my Kronos I like better, all these boards have certain sounds that they do better than the others, that’s why I have to have all I can…
$199? Please fix the polyphonic issue first.
80 ' Sound engine
I'll get it if they have a black friday discount, otherwise I'm good.
Should I buy myself 😂the fantom? I already own yamaha motif 😂.. 😊
Absolutely you should get a Fantom. I got mine earlier this year and I love it. I got the Fantom 8 and the keys feel awesome. I played a 7 and even though I also have a Roland XP80 76 key, semi weighted, I found that I prefer the fully weighted keys on the 8 rather than the synth feel on the 7.
The PHA-50 action is amazing.
Интересно, хоть кто-то окупил эту дорогую игрушку?)
доргая игрушка с качеством звука средних VST.
Да. Мне нравится. Звук отличный.
@@NatLifeSoundsне согласен. Звук топ. Пресеты топ. Удобство использования топ. Менять не на что.
@@IvanBrain просто взял Zenology и получил тот же звук. А конвертеры никакие, в своих теслах слышу этот звук как уровня средний ВСТ.
@@NatLifeSounds я скачал зенологи и мне не понравилось. С фантома мне удобно управлять и играть.
Каждому своё.
Why can't they look at who's registered their expensive hardware and software? And give them something back free of charge? Glad I don't have Roland hardware anymore, they are money grabbing crooks! And they still can't get a good piano sound? Instead they go for these plastic sounding 'perfect' piano sounds, what about felt piano sounds? Old character pianos that aren't supposed to emulate £100k grand pianos - like Nord? Bandits 😂
Yep - their pianos all sound the same.... Still hard and plastic sounding....I'd love an old characterful upright - but not V-Piano - but a new sampled one... I don't think they've sampled a piano since the 90s. 😂
3:08 I think that is the worst piece of “music” I’ve ever heard.
Yamaha Montage mx8
That's it...? That's Roland's "answer" to the new Yamaha Montage M...? And ANOTHER non-realistic sounding modeled piano...? Seriously...?
I am a longtime Roland user, however, I have to agree with you, this new piano pales besides the new ones on the Montage M....
All the latest years Roland answer is clone same software engine synths in hardware and sell it for crazy money
The Yamaha doesn’t even have drum pads 😂
@@NatLifeSounds simply implanting pc in with upgrades in cool case and that's it
@@Imalogike absolutely
hi $200,00?
roland first of fix the aftertouch isue in the fantoms or accept it that is a enginering failure ... we all know is a Hardware problem i buyed my fantom 7 specialy for the aftertouch option.on every new product always the same people same faces arround youtube videos .it feels just so unreal.when i pay 4000 for a flagship instrument then i wait for a real update and free of charge .anyway for me its finish i will no more longer support any companys who dont respect there customers it doesnt matther even if fantom ex 10000 is out
in the mean time a flagship instrument should have a good reverb already inside and we shuld not pay anything for this the same goes for the polyphonie !
Same slow screen as montage, slow and very outdated in terms of screen technology used for other devices.
Mmmm no me gusta la demostración
Nord piano sounds are FAR superior- come on Roland!!! Create a big 15GB "sampled" piano 'with character' that actually sounds like a piece of wood.
Your definition of far superior is? Nord has very low dynamic range, maybe 4 sampled layers. Roland has 16 thousand per key stroke. I've played both and Roland's new German modeled piano is phenomenal. Nord piano sounds natural and very nice. Beautiful to record with, but not for serious playing and controlling dynamics of nuances.
@@ItsThatJahncke2 "not for serious playing and controlling dynamics of nuances"
I've never heard of this, and likely no one but you has, apparently.
I also don't know why someone wanting Nord quality (or comparable) doesn't just get a Nord, FP90X, P-515, SV-2, YC88, etc., instead of looking at workstation keyboards. Absurd.
@@Jason75913 Both me and my musicians agree that Nord stage 4 key action is not great for Dynamics. I don't have any experience with the Nord Grand.
You get a workstation for idea flows and sound creation on the Roland phantom synth engines are phenomenal.
You choose what works best for ya baby girl
@@Jason75913 I'm talking about the alright key action of the Nord stage 4. Maybe the Nord grand 2 is better with dynamics, but the stage 4 just ain't it, felt off and my musician group agreed. Beautiful sounding though
ROLAND JUST KILLED YAMAHA MONTAGE M
Nah it didn't. Montage is a very different board... I have both and they offer different flavors.
Yeah before I would say the same like one brand kicks the other brand etc but finally it’s all about flavour.
We can’t say from sound engine if one is better than the other because I for example I always preferred Roland and Korg sounds…Yamaha I like the vl and nothing eslse…
So voila
I don’t think so. First I want to say that it is not about killing other instruments, all of them could be good tools. On the other hand, in my humble opinion, I like Roland synth, specially the filter (analog filter in a workstation should be the standard), although regarding acoustic instruments Yamaha is excellent, specially pianos and orchestral sounds now. I don’t own a Yamaha but their last board called my attention, not only because of the acoustic sounds, but also because the synth engine is better sounding than before.
I have the fantom and also a montage plan to get an M. and yes they are great tools .But if was to pick one over the other I would go Roland for a number of reasons.Yamaha is getting there and maybe by the time they reach M XS according to their business module they will be just as good or even better but for now Roland is king@@Donetur
Well, normally Yamaha pianos are much superior than these.
agree, roland pianos can’t seem to achieve the quality of yamaha pianos
Your way of screwing over Fantom-0 users is becoming unsufferable. On verge of selling my Fantom and just going for Yamaha.
How are Fantom-0 users screwed with their lower-cost, cut-down keyboards?
I'd rather get a montage m
Please don't Purchase
Very bad workstation synthesizer
A ton of crap noise.
mah...
For 199 usd, there is a lot, for me, to be desires. I like the sound of the German Grand, Supernatural Piano, JD800, ACB additions and Cubase DAW Control.
Thank you Roland.
I'd rather get a montage m