How to Game on Linux
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2017
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tfw your family sends you to alcohol rehabilitation because you had 3000 searches about Wine in your history
underrated
LMFAO
Like Wine as in Wine is NOT an emulator and not wine as in alcohol.
@@jackyzhu9761 yes, we all understood it, you ruined the joke.
just move from windows to pop os and saw this and choked on my drink lol so damn true
Big shout out to www.gamingonlinux.com/ if anyone's interested in reviews, tips, etc. from those of us actually doing this. My Steam library is about 50% Linux compatible so far, and growing every day. Really helps when newer titles tend to use cross-platform engines and middleware like Unity, Unreal Engine, etc., that are designed to be portable to consoles and of course, Mac and Linux. I do my day-to-day everything on a Linux box, and yeah, I keep a Windows partition for some games that aren't ported over yet or run well in Wine, but there are stretches where I don't touch it for months because the games I *am* playing run just fine without needing that reboot. :)
gamingonlinux.com is the best linux gaming site available!
Thanks both of you
#LiveToRunLinux
Can confirm the steam library part.I have over 313 games on steam and about 40% or at least more than 1/3 of them are installable on linux. AAA games are hit or miss, but several companies do ports which means more than you expect will get ported. For instances Dying light, madmax, and Shadow of mordor are all games i've own/played on linux, natively. Even older, mid tier games like overlord get ports some times. Indies are almost always support linux. Oddly enough the group of games that rarely get ports is dos games which run in a emulator, even on windows. In this instances, getting the emulator isn't the hard part, but getting the game files from steam likely requires wine(Linux version of of Steam doesn't allow you to download the Windows version, and the same is true of the inverse) . After that, just use a linux version of the emulator and you're good to go from my understanding.
We now have steam play Proton to play Linux games on Windows.
no idea what that is
@@HearMeLearn its a weird thingy the lets you install windows games on steam and use a custom version of wine to optimise the game for... gaming
*windows games on linux
@tutacat and is the are
The Glorious Eggroll fork, as well.
I personally disagree with the Nvidia choice. AMD *used* to be bad, but in recent years they have been extremely good about working closely with the Linux kernel and ensuring their drivers are well written, stable, and correct. The open source driver included in Linux is actually written by AMD themselves, and the AMDGPU-PRO driver acts as a sort of add-on to that, adding proprietary components to make it faster. On the other hand, Nvidia's reputation is that they are fighting with kernel developers, consistently making drivers that are tricky to configure well, don't support all the interfaces that are needed to natively support newer display system technologies like Wayland, and can sometimes cause your system to become unusable without modifying some config files by hand. I run Linux systems almost exclusively and have run systems with both recent AMD and Nvidia hardware. If you want it to just work, AMD is your best bet.
exactly, nvidia is a pain to deal with on anything other than debian distros
Amir Pourghoureiyan hell, even Linus Torvalds said “NVIDIA, fuck you!” on this issue
Both nvidia and amd are good. Even if I switched to Linux I would still use my nvidia gpu and amd cpu
Oh FFS Fanbois. AMD now works quite well but there is zero need to spread FUD about nVidia. I've been using nVidia's proprietary drivers on Linux for ~20 years and they are easy to install and extremely well documented for deep configuration. Of course Linus was angry with nVidia since proprietary drivers make his job a bit harder. So what? They work and they work extremely well and nVidia deserves to get paid since they've supported dozens of operating systems that few of you even knew existed for free and for decades. Lately AMD is playing "catch up" on Linux and they are finally doing a decent job but they are about 15 years late. So enjoy your AMD drivers but stop grousing about nVidia. They rock.
@@enorbet2 i literally can't use my current preferred desktop environment on nvidia gpus because they refuse to implement the standard api interface used by intel, amd, mali, adreno, and everyone else.
Linux by far is the better OS, the only thing holding it back is that damn support
Well yes and no. Linux is merely the Kernel. The many distributions of said Kernel make Linux closer to an ecosystem of Operating Systems and this hurts it a little when it comes to trying to gain more mainstream support.
Well, the support is also part of what makes an OS. And if overall, the support makes it less usable than windows, you can't really say it's better.
This is coming from a Linux user.
Nice copypasta meme. Did you grab that from /g/ or did you steal it from another 4Chan guy on another Linux RUclips video?
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That's like saying that Hydrogen fuel cell cars are better than plug in electric, but the only thing holding it back is the damn refuelling infrastructure support 😆😂
@@SlavaMironov true. Also it is so much easier to program on unix-based operating systems. At least for me. So it's better for programming but not so much for everything else?
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your joke went over my head at first
went linux, never looked back.
Bravo!
I think I'll do that as well in a few years, but for now I'm stuck with Windows 8!
game pulled me back :(
fuck windows
nobeltnium if i would be a gamer, i would prefer to invest on console rather than a dedicated gpu or just dual boot linux with windows.
there are soooo much draw back on a console my friend. it's crazy to have a bunch of dvd laying around, and there's no way a console can compare to a decent gpu on a pc. beside living in a third world country like i am now with average income under 200$/month make it ridiculous to spend hundred of dollars to have a gaming machine,that one is the most important reason. a pc to work and game all in one is more cost efficient. Now that wasn't include the game just yet. can't imagine just throw away my steam library to rebuy a bunch of new game console.
Just one small criticism. The choice to use Linux is not always based on cost it saving the $150.00. I have been a Linux user for the past 8+ years and I moved over for the stability, security and freedom. I also do spend a fair amount of money on software that makes the Windows cost look like nothing
Software like?
@@omsrivastava512 probably adobe stuff
@@seanspringer4494 that does not run on linux
@@SFSAtlas idk what kinda software then. Wouldn't adobe stuff run with wine tho?
How do I open a file it won't let me
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I have no clue why this overused comment has likes
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Linus Media Group should employ Linux guys and create LinuxTechTips channel.
GTAx first time I've seen it.
DO NOT DOWNLOAD LINUX SOFTWARE, ESPECIALLY DRIVERS, FROM THE WEB UNLESS IT IS YOUR ONLY OPTION.
If the software is available in your repos, USE IT INSTEAD.
If you can find the source code, read the readme / install instructions and BUILD IT INSTEAD.
Downloading some random executable should only be used as a last resort.
This is very important for a couple of reasons:
1. It makes sure that software is kept up to date and easy to manage, as everything can be updated from the same application
2. A developer won't accidentally break your system, as repo packages usually go though thorough testing
3. It hugely reduces the chance of downloading malicious software. This chance is currently near zero because not much linux malware is in circulation, but if GNU/Linux really does take off then this is a very good habit
So, please, don't "download the drivers from Nvidia or AMD's website."
Either
1. open the "software and updates" application, go to the "additional drivers" section and choose a driver
2. run "sudo apt install nvidia-current" or "sudo apt install amdgpu"
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Can't never stress this enough
Did you just assume my distro?
Stokes Pen For example on Ubuntu you can use additional drivers to change your default open source driver to nvidia/amd's closed driver which shouldn't contain any unwanted code since it's closed driver. The drivers you download from their own sites might not tested like the ones you see in additional drivers. Also it's easier to install/update/delete packages especially if you aren't experienced linux user.
Stokes Pen the repositories refered to are a collection of software pre-configured for the target OS, normally maintained by the same organization that built the OS and tested by thousands upon thousands of people worldwide. They are effectively as trustworthy as the OS itself and come built-in.
Not saying AMD or Nvidia aren't reputable, but who would you trust to get things right when your system is on the line: an expert in the field of that specific OS, or some random employee at AMD?
Plus, it's way easier to install using the repositories then the downloads on their websites.
Just gaming on Linux?!?!
I do professional video production, graphics, and filmmaking on Linux! It's far easier and freeing than most might think!!! I highly recommend anyone give Linux a serious try, and you might just switch completely like I did about 3 years ago. Definitely also check out the amazing tools available on Linux like Blender, Lightworks Pro, GIMP, Krita, BitWig Studio, KIT Scenarist, Nuke, 3DsMax, Natron, etc. etc. etc.!!!! The sky is the limit!
Thanks for the heads up ! just saved me like £600 on buying a iMAC for my photography and Video work!!!
Jimmytwogunz Awesome!!! Let me know if there's anyway I can help with your switch. Also, shameless plug, LOL, my channel Film World uses only Linux in it's post production tutorials!
Film World sweet I’ll
Check out your channel 👍🏾 thanks
Can it run adobe?
The Titan You have to use an emulator like one called Wine. Photoshop and other "light" applications typically work fine, but not always. After Effects and Premiere would probably be too much. I don't need any Adobe personally. I love Lightworks for editing and Blender for VFX plus MANY others that more than satisfy my needs!
Actually looking at how AMD has been supporting Linux in the last few months, I would always recommend an AMD card now. Yea, the experience at the moment will vary *a bit* more than with Nvidia. But when it comes to showing how much they support the ecosystem and platform, AMD has been going above and beyond Nvidia for the last 1 1/2 years...
Id like to see your views on this nowadays
Wow, Linus is talking about Linux. I'm impressed. I hope we see more videos on Linux. We've seen him do videos on what mainframes are, touring a super computer, and talk about servers vs PCs among other things, so it's time we finally see him talk about Linux. XD
gwgux I would too, but if he does, he needs to preface it by the fact that he (exaggeration/assumption incoming) has no experience in Linux. Also, I think he should link to other channels who are proficient in Linux and actually know what they are talking about. That’s my opinion at least.
If you get really advanced, you can run a real Windows install on top of Linux, and give it direct access to your GPU. That way, you can have your cake and eat it, too. You'll find that, for everything besides gaming, Linux is much easier and more transparent to deal with. You can make it look however you like, and it's easy to customize under the hood. Installing software is incredibly easy with modern package managers. Literally one command, and it takes care of everything. Contrast this with Windows, where you have to manually download your software, and use some weird, confusing, and unique GUI Wizard for each package. You can't change how Windows looks, either. In Linux, there's a diverse pool of different window managers and desktop environments. You can make Linux look like Windows, Mac OSX, Android, and other popular operating systems, or you can install the unique, innovative new environments the GUI nerds in the open source community are constantly cooking up. For instance, I use a 'tiling window manager', which automatically arranges windows into neat desktops, instead of just letting them float around on top of each other. You actually don't even have to touch the command line, anymore, if you don't want to. Most popular distributions come with GUI front-ends for their package managers which allow users to navigate the Linux ecosystem like an app store. Or, if you really miss it, you can still go to your browser and manually download and double-click everything. And the best part about all of this? There's very little incentive to screw you over. Each piece of software is maintained by people who probably use it themselves. You have thousands of angry nerds constantly critiquing the code, suggesting edits, making new versions, and keeping up old ones, purely out of personal interest. This is partially why Linux is considered to be incredibly secure. Contrast this with Windows, where each piece of software is a hulking mess, and they try to hide vulnerabilities until they have a commercial incentive to fix them.
Perfectly said #LetLinuxThriveFurther
Except that you need 2 GPUs for the passthrough to actually work.
Well you can just stop using your only GPU (shut down Xorg or Wayland) and assign it to your Windows VM
Agreed. Gaming is the only reason I’m running Windows.
Pepin CZ how can I start the VM without XORG? I‘d really like to know as I hate to dual boot just for PUBG..
Wine ticks installs the components for the system wine, that will not effect the pol wine prefix, so if you want those additional components you should create a wine prefix in pol and install components through pol menu
Loving the Linux coverage! Another point to add to the points in the video and in the comments: if you're building a dedicated gaming rig and are willing to give up *some* software availability, consider using Solus OS for running Steam. The distro has many things going for it, but the most relevant benefit Solus has over distributions for gaming is the the Linux-Steam Integration package. The Linux-Steam Integration package keeps games on Steam running smoothly by allowing them to use up to date versions of software and libraries they need to run. Running Steam on Solus with LSI allows you to just play your game without ever having to worry about dependency hell, as some Linux gamers have experienced in the past.
tl;dr Solus OS + LSI + Steam = smoother native Linux gaming experience
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Noot noot swigety swooty I’m coming for that booty
Linux = fancy pinn
I removed "gui" from pinguin for obvious reasons
so smexy.
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This comment is so underrated
Loved this video!! More Ubuntu/Linux videos, Linus??
I would actually like to see him suffer while installing Gentoo
That is Brian Lundukes job. :-)
No thanks, i've heard enough lies in this video alone for the whole next year
I would pay to watch that lol
Probably not. It looks like they don't even bother to install Linux and try it. Just used screenshot from internet and some general advise from first page of google search
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Armer Schluca ha linux
Linux was made by a Linus more specifically Linus tworldis
For intel integrated graphics drive do this command:
sudo apt install *video-intel*
asterick * is used to tell terminal to select specifically 'video-intel- packs and install them.
Errata:
You really never want to get the drivers from nVidia, or AMD's website. That is how you get a broken system. Go into the standard repository, and pick up the latest driver in there, which has undergone a fair amount of testing with the distribution.
Also, nVidia's drivers are inferior to AMD's when it comes to the latest gpus, but better for gpus older than a year.
Actually, my system got a huge boost with AMD's website drivers compared to the repos. But I'm also running Lubuntu 16.04, maybe that's the difference.
True, if you want to get the nVidia or AMD drivers you get them from your distro's repository, you don't download anything from websites.
I don't know, Phoronix does a lot of testing on this and it's still sad to see GTX 1060 being on par on performance against Vega 64 even on the latest tests, so I wouldn't say that's really true (1080 being untouchable to AMD it seems).
With AMD, you'd want the Padoka PPA. The latest Mesa drivers wipe the floor with AMD's in OpenGL.
ferrermacea that's because you are using amdgpu pro edition instead of the non pro provided by Ubuntu but you can install properly amdgpu pro using a ppa for example, for further details Google it.
Hello, I am a gamer who almost exclusively uses Linux (I dual boot for some games that don't run well or at all).
Here are some corrections/additions to the video.
1. If you use Ubuntu, don't go to the nvidia website to get your drivers. Just go to the settings, "Additional Drivers", tick the nvidia driver, click "OK" and reboot. Downloading software from websites is more of a Windows thing.
2. The number of native Linux ports on Steam is growing rapidly. Many indie developers decide to port to Linux and some big publishers are starting to do it as well. AAA titles still rarely get a port, but if you like AA and indie titles, your chances are actually pretty good.
3. Lutris is a game library and another good frontend for wine. It makes it really easy to get games running.
4. If you have a Windows license but you would still like to try Linux, set up a dual boot. It's as easy as flashing Linux on a USB drive, booting from that drive and hitting "Next" inside the OS installer a few times.
5. AMD on Linux seems to be good nowadays. Check the replies to this comment for more info.
Buttercak3 addressing number 4... setting up dual boot can be simple, coming back from it is an absolute nightmare. Especially with UEFI based systems as you then need to try and remove the protected EFI entry as well.
AMD's open source drivers are pretty damn good nowadays. They put effort into improving them from when they were... shit.
Thanks guys. I updated the part about AMD.
J Ryan I didn't even think of that because I didn't go back from dual booting. I guess you're right.
I have old Radeon HD graphics on my laptop, and using the default Ubuntu driver's I get significantly better performance on Linux than I do on Windows, and most of my library is available too. Half Life collection, Civ V, etc.
W.I.N.E does run windows 3.1-xp games way better than windows a lot of the time.
That actually cracked me up a bit, good to know!
Bruh, it's 2020, we dont use windows xp anymore
@@oneonetwotwo4580 This is a 3 year old video, but even back in 2017 WINE ran lots of games that were developed way post XP. In 2020 Vulkan has changed everything. Whether you add Vulkan support to WINE or just use SteamProton (a game specialized version of WINE on Steam with Vulkan included) even DirectX12 games often run great. Some don't yet, but the number grows all the time and it is so effective when combined with Linux's superior low-latency and TCP/IP stack, some up-to-the-minute new so-called "Windows Only" games actually perform better on Linux now.
@@oneonetwotwo4580 Some people still want to play 3D space pinball.
@@degenerals6127 because of the old hardware, (old because it had xp) the USB boot option does not exist in your computer. I recommend your to burn a CD/DVD with the linux ISO and then install it. Yeah it's a old school technique, But it will work 100%
Recently made the switch to Linux myself and am loving it. I tend to play Indie games, and the vast majority of my steam library was already available natively on Steam!
@Cuzeg Spiked all hail lord gaben!
As an avid Linux user + gamer I was expecing the video to have a lot of flaws and what-not, but no! Linus got everything spot-on! Fabulous! One side-note though: users are reporting that the latest AMD Linux drivers are actually pretty great now (especially for the newer cards) so I don't think driver support should be a major purchasing decision.
Gamer and Linux user don't go hand in hand. I suspect you only play solitaire(aisleriot).
Not those who may be "paranoid" about things like Windows 10.
+Kshitij Jhalak Haha, well, tbf I don't play every latest AAA title, but the games I actually play and am interested in (Source games + a bunch of local multiplayer games for the living room) work flawlessly. Heck, my 9 year old brother managed to install Dirt 3 through Wine, and it's actually very playable on my 660Ti. He couldn't get our USB steering wheel to work with it though, so I bought him Dirt Rally for Christmas (which has native Linux support) and it works like a charm! :D
Gaming and linux can indeed go hand in hand depending on your expectations. If you expect to just buy any title without checking compatibility than no. There are games for every type of gamer out there and many AAA titles available to play on linux. All browser games work on linux pretty much.
Well sure, not many flaws but you missed to mention that he got the drivers explanation in a very misleading way. You don't go to AMD's or Nvidia's website to download those. At least on Mint you just enable them in the drivers section, and / or enable the closed sourced packages and install it from there.
"How to game on Linus", is what i saw at first glance.
Shazzkid when i saw the channel,i always thinked of that
Same
Sounds kinky.
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Vaisakh S Thats what i was going to say
"nvidia plays more nicely with linux"
yeah nah
xD i bought an nvidia gpu when i still used windows and i hate it
like the Filipinos' apology to the Beatles, it's Nvidia's apology to Linus Torvalds, which is futile
Compared to amd
You have a large audience Mr. Linus. Very cool Linux vid on your part. Thanks for the support
The AMDGPU driver provided by amd is preferred over AMDGPU-PRO which is still sort of being tested and is actually just built over AMDGPU, also it's mostly for workstation use with gaming performance generally degraded using it.
Nouveau performance however, is greatly less than the proprietary nvidia driver due to the fact that nvidia does not provide GPU documentation to those wanting to make their own drivers, and generally nvidia just not willing to play ball with Linux or the open source community.
I would greatly recommend Lutris over playonlinux, as Lutris does almost everything for you and has a nice GUI.
Green DNB first time I have heard about Lutris. Will check it out .thanks
It's really convenient to see so many experienced linux users in comments! :)
Some tips for those who are looking into Linux gaming in 2019:
- If you want to play a Steam game that is Windows-only, you should first try running the game with Proton. Proton is Valve's version of Wine which is build in to the Linux Steam client. I have found that a majority of the Windows-only games will work just by using this. It's super easy to use, you can just google "steam proton tutorial" and get your game up and running in a few minutes.
- If your game isn't on Steam, use a program called Lutris. Lutris is a great program where you can download and install Windows games with a GUI that runs community-made scripts. It pretty much just automates the use of Wine and installs the usual workarounds for each game. It's very easy to use and the developers put a lot of effort into making it as user-friendly as possible. I use this to play Overwatch on my Ubuntu desktop at >165hz.
- If your game needs Easy Anti-Cheat (Fortnite, Paladins, etc.) it will currently not work on Linux. Unfortunately, your only options for these games are to 1) install the game in a VM and deal with poor performance or 2) buy a second GPU and play the game in a VM with good performance (using a PCI passthrough to KVM)
As a Linux user and gamer, thanks for making this video Linus. With your audience size and visibility, this may convert some more folks to the Linux fold.
2 issues though. For one, Radeon cards are a lot better performing these days with open-source drivers (AMDGPU), even moreso than the proprietary AMD drivers (AMDGPU-PRO). Secondly, even though there are less games than on windows, there are plenty as I have 600 or so games out of 1000 games in my steam library that run natively on Linux. I also have around 150 Linux native games on GOG.com. Linux gaming has come a long, long way, even compared to 2 years ago.
Again, great video Linus, seems you covered most of the basics. I hope you do more Linux videos in the future, and don't forget to give our Mac using cousins some love too. :)
hey can you help me play age of empires on linux ??
i tried playonlinux** on ubuntu and tried to download it , but its not working.
Don't forget its not just the games you'll have to tinker with. A lot of gaming peripherals, say, Razer's stuff, require some additional hackery to cooperate. That's the beauty of Linux though: time and again its community demonstrates they can make anything work through basically the power of duct tape.
This is also its biggest pitfall. Most people don't want to bother with the extra steps involved, they want something that "just works" because they see it as a waste of their time otherwise.
TalesOfWar These are the same people who would call a technician because their Windows 10 "just doesn't work". With Linux you are pushed to solve things yourself, giving you a sense of satisfaction :)
A lot of this magic is that the GNU+Linux system is entirely modular. So modular in fact that just about every component of a Linux based OS can be changed for something else. X and Wayland, SystemV and SystemD, ALSA and PulseAudio, Bash & ZSH & CSH & FISH &....
TalesOfWar , yeah, because it's a waste of their time. Imagine if you needed to make your bread everyday. We are in 2017(and even more,but we are following christian years...). Why the fuck some user would want to waste time putting "duct tape" on everything when they can pay for their OS(or even download it free) and just have everything working just fine?
"Imagine if you needed to make your bread everyday". But... we do O.o
Also, like making bread, duct taping Linux is fun.
Wow... never thought I'd see the day. lol. :) I'm really surprised at just how unbiased this video was. Much respect gained. :)
Levi Guiney Why we love Linus!
J M
Yeah, that's why we love Linus Torvalds.
Been doing this for years.
I actually find it more rewarding to get a game running on wine than just playing it out if the box. It's almost like a puzzle game to get the game you want to play running
I wish all games and drivers worked on Linux ! i would never touch windows again other than when I'm at work! that's it
Fortunately I’m currently working as a JS developer, and every piece of the stack can be properly developed under Linux.
First thing I asked when I got the position and was given my notebook was “I'm installing Linux in this thing, is that alright?”
DXVK + Wine + Lutris will do the job. Bust still, it's best to push devs to make their games available on Linux either natively or through 3rd party studios like Feral Interactive or Aspyr Media.
@@KayX291 name 1 game or driver that wont run on the newest Linux. I've played most AAA games and I've never had a problem and there are always tested drivers available which automatically download or proprietary drivers that are so much easier to install than on other os's.
@@waskito3443 Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition. You need to compile a hack to get the game to work on open source driver, because according to a dev, it's a great idea to hard code the game to work with proprietary drivers only.
This is an issue for AMD and Intel HD users.
@@waskito3443 Roblox, some Nvidia drivers, RTL818811 (OOB anyways), and same as the previous one except with the RTL8812.
On AMD, I'd actually recommend the open source drivers (amdgpu). When using the newest version (Mesa + Kernel), they even outperform the proprietary ones (amdgpu pro). Also, a short while ago, their Vulcan drivers have been open sourced. The only thing missing from the open source drivers is FreeSync. :)
AMDs open source support makes me never buy a nVdia GPU again. ;)
Yeah, I can't believe he actually said "go with Nvidia". My laptop and desktop both have Radeon gpus and work perfectly. And with the new kernel things seem really good. Open-source for life :D
FreeSync support is in the kernel, not in drivers ;) I don't know what distro you're using but if it is above 4.13 you're good I believe :)
Theo Buunermond Intereresting, good to know, thanks. :) I didn't really follow FreeSync status, because I don't have a compatible Monitor. ;)
+Simon WoodburyForget. But if your drivers are average you won't get the performance it should be. AMD is much more open source minded and it pays off in the linux community. The Vega64 kicks the 1080ti ass. I'm not gonna say that it is a bad card, but nvidia could do some smarter things.
Yukicanis my Linux machine using AMD does not work as good as the ones with n vidia. How can I install those drives?
FINALLY A VIDEO FOR ME
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KeweKrypto 12 because penguins are cute
Gwalms23 what is the best linux distro when I am looking for security and privacy? I never used linux before and from what I have seen qubes looks interesting. is that the best choice?
Adriana Kuzmikova Ubuntu is the standard for Linux pc’s.
this should help you decide: wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
one important thing is even you installed 64-bit linux, beside the 64-bit driver, you need to install the multilib packages and the 32-bit driver on your 64-bit OS as well
Seriously, talk about GPU passthrough. It's the most pragmatic and fantastic way of using Linux for 90% of your workload by not using dual booting, but using a dedicated GPU inside a virtual machine which allows for pretty much native performance with about 5FPS loss compared to bare metal Windows. It's insanely powerful and isn't too hard to set up either and allows you to use both Linux and game in Windows simultaneously without rebooting or messing with Wine.
Wendell loves this stuff so you can ask him for advice, or come talk to the VFIO subreddits. Plus, you can advertise Synergy as well since it's highly recommended to use between the Windows virtual machine and the Linux host while gaming.
You can also run Windows in KVM/QEMU under Linux and pass through your GPU and get the same performance as bare metal :)
Don't do that on most competitive games though, you'd be sadly surprised.
Alexandre Loens I have played overwatch and league in it... you don’t need to worry about latency, it’s actually really good, well it’s the same as you would get on bare metal, as you end up passing through the USB controllers, GPU and sometimes SATA controllers, giving the most direct access that you could possibly get for hardware and latency, and yes I have tried that/use it on my 144hz monitor :)
Edit: I have also played pubg and GTA5 in it as well, very smooth.
KeweKrypto 12 No it isn’t 100%, nothing is... but in comparison to bare metal the performance difference is very negligible, I’m talking 95-98% and even then that isn’t with fine tuning. If you fine tune everything (cpu pinning, hugepages and so on...) it’s 99% performance, but you’ll only notice these performance increases if you do very specific tasks that require low memory latency/heavy computational work so in other words it’s pretty much the same for gaming purposes.. But I would argue that the input latency is the same as bare metal
It requires specific hardware to do. Sadly i have a 4770k CPU which can't. Damn letter K, ruining my fun!
JayXdbX I had a 4670k which didn’t support VT-d and a few 4th gens don’t either, but pretty much most CPUs from there on support it, just double check on the ark page
Wait? If WINE means WINE is not an emulator, does that make it a recursive acronym?
Yes, just like GNU which stands for 'GNU's Not Unix'.
Actually Linux isn't a recursive acronym, it's a portmanteau of 'Linus' and 'Unix'
No, this is no mere theory, Linus himself has personally commented on this. Please do your research.
He was literally the one who came up with the name when he was working on it by himself and decided to keep the name (which was initially a working title), people adopted that name and its history with it whether you like it or not. Stop being stubborn.
As much as Lunix idiots will say “WINE is not an emulator”, it is.
I think the video should mention that if you're running a distribution with a driver manager, it is a lot easier and safer to use that to select the proprietary graphics drivers. Also, for nVidea on some recent distros you need a bit of jiggery-pokery in the bootloader to get it to run smoothly (as in: at all. At least I did for my current Mint system)
When you install the nvidia driver on ubuntu or mint please use the one in the repos (sudo apt install nvidia-390), you may have to wait a week or two to get the latest driver there but you it is low maintenance (you did not need to reinstall the driver after a kernel update)
Valve games like CS:GO, Dota 2, and Half-Life run really well natively on Linux.
You should have added that any game made on the Source engine works perfectly well. Because apparently, Valve is the only publisher who sees the danger of gaming market monopolization, and seem to be only AAA publisher that cares enough about the issue to try and fight it.
Meaning that popular titles like CS:GO, Gmod and HL3...2 (cries) run perfectly well on Linux without the need for compatibility layers.
Also if your absolute only purpose is gaming, SteamOS already has all the driver optimizations needed and has Steam pre-installed and configured (duh).
Though, SteamOS is a bit outdated in the driver department (on AMD side especially, the drivers have been improving drastically over the past months)
True. It was more to the people that don't wanna bother with all the prerequisites.
You're kinda wrong. Valve only did that because they were trying to launch their shitty steam machines. They launched their shitty steamOS and left it without support after a month(I might be wrong about the time, but they aren't supporting it).
Bojan Babic - No. I am not "kinda wrong". The SteamOS project was launched in 2013. While the source engine started supporting Linux somewhere around 2008. SteamOS and the idea behind the "Steam machines" wasn't even conceived back then.
You should at least try to make a little more research before trying to correct someone who's already correct. Regardless of your feelings towards SteamOS. :)
HaakonHawk They ported the engine to linux in 2008. And? Capcom ported the RE7 engine to switch almost first week and I dont see any RE7 on switch. And please dont act like you have a clue what plans Gabe and his team had in 2008.
Thank you for this! I have been wanting to try Linux again for some time, this might push me to finally do so again! I used to use Linux for most everything, then got caught up in Windows things again. I need to try again soon!
Once my download for ESO finishes on Steam, I may just delete Windows for good.
That is because I'm installing the game on Linux Mint, and as far as I know the game does work on here. I just needed to do a fresh install and then I should be able to boot it up with Lutris.
Thank you for kind of giving a little shout-out to Linux 😊
Bradley Stone
Linux sucks, go and buy a real OS!
Techno Vikash
Yeah, i installed GNU/Linux® on my new Apple™ iPhone X©.
Linux Sucks!
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Namenlos lol troll?
Bradley Stone
No, u?
Wine/PlayOnLinux is not the only way to game on Linux. Another option is GPU Passthrough where you pass your 2nd GPU to Windows VM with QEMU/Virt-Manager. You can also have iGPU for Linux and pass Nvidia or AMD GPU to Windows VM so you don't necessarily need two GPU's unless you plan to play Linux native games also.
Great and informative video :D
Guys i've tried a lot to find drivers for my integrated gpu but couldn't. Can someone please tell me where to get drivers of intel hd graphics for ubuntu or mint??
Finaly some GNU/Linux stuff!
7mario6 Does it really matter? Being all uptight about semantics could possibly confuse people interested in Linux and turn them off to the idea of it. It’s like gif vs gif. You have some people who go on witch hunts trying to get everyone to say it right, when really, if what I’m saying is clear and understandable, what does it matter? Potato potato.
yup! or richard stallman, gets angry :P
Yeah, it doesn't matter. :D ruclips.net/video/EShUeudtaFg/видео.html
REDCOW34 Richard Stallman probably wouldn't approve of us playing these closed-source games anyway
rms fanboy detected
Get drivers from your package manager and not the website please...
Also dont use POL, just use winetricks.
Verserk what's the reason why? I ask because I about to try on my Ubuntu install.
Loren Dias's answer is very good, use the package manager (I.e. "driver manager" utility in ubuntu/mint) to install proprietary drivers), it's much more reversible and less breaky than using the installers provided by nvidia and amd.
Also, if you are using an AMD card, you likely won't have to install a proprietary driver at all, since on cards 200 series and newer the open source driver that will be installed by default is likely far better.
I wish you a good time using Linux, but I must forewarn you about the lack of mouse settings GUI. (I can help you with disabling mouse accel if you want- just reply to me and I'll try to make it step-by-step, since it's rather easy but not the most intuitive) Good online tutorials also exist.
yesterday me run Simcity v.2013 on linux with lutris+wine and EAorigin of course
Great video Linus, love it
I recommend redoing this video for following reasons:
* It is recommended to install drivers from the package manager or in Ubuntu/Linux Mint or any Ubuntu-based distributions, from Additional Drivers menu. This is the best and safest way to install a driver for your GPU and other hardware (Intel CPU users must also install UCode driver which can be done the same way as with installing GPU drivers). Installing from the manufacturer's website is not recommended as you may encounter a lot of issues if you don't know what you are doing and it's used as a last resort.
* NVIDIA is not much of a better choice for Linux. This is due to the fact that most of their features haven't been added and they won't bother to add em. For example if you are on a laptop with NVIDIA Optimus on it....you're screwed because NVIDIA won't even bother to make an official support and have to rely on community-made ones such as Bumblebee (Which hasn't been updated for 2 years afaik) or NVIDIA's PRIME which tbh it can be a hit or miss, also no GeForce Experience and due to the fact that they use their own custom OpenGL library, you miss out some useful features.
*AMD is best choice here for this (and future proof in general) and it's best to stick with open source drivers and keep the driver library that relies on it, called Mesa updated. Unlike NVIDIA, AMD keeps on giving some improvements and provide features for Linux and just now, The 4.15 version of Linux kernel contains loads of em. Also you can enable the exclusive to AMD, Gallium3D Nine which is basically....a native Direct3D 9 for Linux, which with the right version of Wine, you get to play Windows games under DirectX 9 running flawlessly.
* The number of games coming to LInux is growing actually, it's just that most AAA games don't get many ports on it (Then again, most AAA games are garbage nowadays). Indie and some AA games do get Linux ports.
*PlayOnLinux is not recommended as it didn't get many updates and scripts that help you with installing are very outdated and in some cases dangerous to your system. Just stick to the Lutris instead and if you have games from GOG.com, rely on Adamhm's Wine wrappers or ./play.it ones.
* Wine does have a GUI called winecfg which helps with configuring the prefix (Folder with the Windows software in it and you can create one), as well as the Regedit and the Control Panel.
*If a Windows game has a OpenGL or Vulkan option, it's best to use it in Wine as you won't lose any performance when converting DirectX calls into OpenGL or Vulkan.
* It is recommended to know that some games can be badly ported by devs on Linux, probably due to OpenGL or Vulkan being new.
*Another thing worth to mention is Solus, while it isn't officially supported by Steam, it does come with a unique Steam version called LSI (Linux Steam Integration) which lets you set up Steam in terms of compatibility or using libraries.
* Speaking of Steam, it's recommended to mention the Native mode. Which makes Steam and games running from it to use libraries from your system instead. This is very important as by default Steam uses it's own library which are outdated by a whooping 6 years as they are from Ubuntu 12.04 and way past it's LTS (Long Term Support). Enabling Native mode requires you to run with the STEAM_RUNTIME=0 command on, but Solus' LSI lets you toggle it with a simple mouse button. This has been enabled by default since Ubuntu 17.10.
*For those who worry about missing out games like Witcher 3 or Overwatch, DXVK can solve this issue. It's basically a Direct3D 11 to Vulkan wrapper made for Wine and the performance difference depending on the GPU is 15% - 20% which is pretty damn big. Of course be aware that it may be considered as a cheat in some MP games (Blizzard's ok with DXVK).
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+Linus Are you reading this!? OMG it's all true! Please redo this video.
this
Why am I watching this at midnight when I don’t use Linux or game much?
Because you want to learn the ways of the Penguin.
Ivan Karamazov lol
3:30
Because you are one of all of us watching videos every night lol
Dude, I also don't use Linux nor game and it's 12:53am on my clock.
Thanks man you solved my big problem.
Bro love your channel extremely helpful keep it up and continue to great work 💪😎. Shoutout from Durban south africa
Everything is good except... NEVER download and install the Nvidia drivers directly. As they will not be configured automatically when your kernel updates.
Use the ones in the repositories, they may be a few versions older, but the are better. If you use arch, then they are new. For ubuntu users use a package manager say synaptic and get the newest that is available, for arch "pacman -S nvidia" boom. I am a bit more familiar with arch. Plus, try antergos if you are new to arch for sometime, it will help you get used to it.
lol I don't think people will be using arch if they don't know what a package manager is, but all other major distributions have a package manager too. Use it. Don't install anything manually unless it isn't available.
Very accurate depiction of what it's like to game on linux! It doesn't quite offer the experience of windows, but it gets better every day. And with vulkan set to hopefully become the standard API for gaming, i think it will get much better for linux soon :)
All hail for Vulkan!
I'm really hoping that It will become a standard... and even gain more popularity than d3d.
I, err, played a few minutes of Minecraft on my Raspberry Pi. Does... does that count?
There's a lot of momentum pushing the gaming situation on Linux forward. I would still like to see a De Facto steam machine though. The Steam Machine by Valve.
That would be great, but unfortunately there is more to cross platform games than just the graphics API, and many companies absolutely don't care about Linux.
And I get them tbh, the market share of Linux is quite low, and even many Linux users don't game on Linux.
AMDGPU is a beast right now, on par with nvidia
So where are you going to find/buy the windows games that you made to work with the compatibility layer?
Yes a please do more linux contact please im a Linux enthusiast
Noah Bachman
Any idea about how to install printers on Ubuntu?
sidharth cs I believe Ubuntu has printers in settings. If not, you can use cups and follow instructions in the cups man page.
Linux. Enthusiast. Never thought I'd hear those two words in the same sentence...
Linux users are like Vegans. They tell everyone.
Installing printer driver is simple on Ubuntu, just go to Software Sources > Additional Drivers tab. It will download and install drivers for printers if printer manufacturer has Linux driver available.
250k views in one day.
that shows just how much of a real thing gaming on Linux is. Lets hope more games will include native Linux support in the future.
fake views!11!
This channel will get views regardless of the topic
I'm gonna have to look into some of this at some point. I do currently use (and have for a very long time) Linux as my daily OS, but I tend to just stick to the games that run natively on it. And while there's a fair number of games which do (and the library is always growing) there's still a bunch of games that I wanna play which only work on Windows still (such as GTA V).
Have just been doing in home streaming from my old gaming laptop for most of that and that works a lot better than I expected but it's a pain for some games like LA Noire which have a window pop up before the game starts (also a pain for any newly installed games as the Windows firewall will complain about the game but you won't see that in the stream).
I hope Blizzard will make their games work on Linux at some point in the future (and I've heard rumours they're looking into it), but at the very least their games have a tendency to work incredibly well with Wine (as if running natively, and with little to no tweaking at least for the games I tried back when I did bother with Wine).
I'd also recommend using DXVK. It's a tool for Wine that allows it to translate DirectX 11 to Vulkan API. It solves a lot of graphics problems and improves performance in modern games
RIP Steam OS
why rip?
I just don't see anyone talking about it anymore. Tbh, I don't know the current state of Steam OS
Steam OS is basically just debian with a few tweaks xD
its not special, it just has steam preinstalled, but users reported it runs worse than ubuntu
It's still being developed tho
But can it run tunnel bear?
Yup.
You can even set your own VPN with OpenVPN :) (less efficient than just paying for tunnelbear though)
I know it's an older video, not sure if the comment will be seen. Could you guys make a video about dual booting linux with windows, its perks and downsides, and share any of your knowledge that you have on it?
im still apprehensive. How well does games that were made for windows run on linux? also do i have to have a specific linux distro. or can i run games on something like kali. thanks
But proprietary NVidia drivers don't support Wayland, and AMDGPU(and PRO) are almost on par with them on cards that are made to compete with their Green alternatives. But nouveau is a lot slower than proprietary in some cases, and have a lot less support for new cards, such as reclocking issues.
Given microsoft's recent track record, I would love to see more love for linux in the future, I've been considering linux for quite a while already
I would highly recommend dual-booting a version of Linux (I recommend Ubuntu MATE) alongside your current Windows install. Doing so is as simple as clicking a check-box in the installer ^.^
Thing is that I have a small ssd and use up most of my available space in it and my drives, no chance for me to comfortably dual boot with my current setup.
Ahh, bummer :(
You don't have to dual-boot with a single drive. You can have Windows on one drive, and your favorite distro on the other.
ki2ne lol just because you have an extra drive lying around didn't mean everybody does.
Can you install windows 10 on any pc that comes with another software preinstalled?
Also any Vulkan or OpenGL game will just run with Wine with no issues. (other than copy protection).
AMD discontinued their proprietary drivers in favor of the open source ones back in 2015. Also, starting with Linux kernel 4.15 performance will be much closer to windows, so going for an AMD card is much better since proprietary driver in general can be a pain, and Nvidia offers no support for open source drivers.
The problem isn't money, it is Windows 10 being a spyware, keylogger, privacy and update nightmare.
I really don't understand that... I've never had any problems with updates. I just turned off automatic updates and Windows simply tells me if there's an update and I can choose when to update, IF I want to update.
You do not turn off auto updates on W10. Not even on Pro.
You can postpone 'em for a short while, but then it will push them down your throat.
And if you somehow manage to still cockblock MS' "services", the whole OS starts self-destructing. Not even joking.
Mate, Linux is embedded in HW that spy on you such as TV, routers, smartphones, submarines, drones, autonomous weapons, cars.
I worked for SUN many years ago and i DEFINATELY don't trust Linux anymore because no IOT embedded Windows spy on me.
+Electro Scavenger No different than Chrome OS and Android. It will be the proprietary/closed source parts embedded in TV, routers, smartphones, submarines, drones, autonomous weapons, cars, etc. that will spy on you cuz nobody knows the source code. The only way is to remove those parts you can't see the source code for.
Windows is proprietary/closed source while Linux is open source. I wouldn't trust Windows, nobody can see Windows source code and it is confirmed spyware by former MS employee and i myself have confirmed Windows 10 is spyware with PeerBlock, it was insane Windows 10 was making connections every few minutes ruclips.net/video/wPFbAqICUJo/видео.html
Linux/ is confirmed NDA bloatware that loads closed source firmware !
Hey I have a chome book laptop and I wanna play my trucking simulator games on the laptop can I use Linux and download Linux to play my games
what if i dont have a graphics card can i still get the drivers to make my performence better
Thank you for talking about GNU/linux, It's not an OS that usually gets any compliment, besides all the advantages that has against other OS (I'm not saying that it's perfect at all, but in my opinion and usage, It's definatelly better than Windows in a thon of aspects). Keep up the good work! :)
Yep :D
I would recommend using the drivers from your package manager and not the nvidia download. Easier updates and module building if you choose dkms
Nice vid 👌🏻, thanks
This was a very well done and well researched video. Even better than some by people in the linux community. the one thing I would add is that many of the mainstream distributions like ubuntu have driver installation software built in that makes it much easier to install the venders drivers than doing it from their site. Doing it by hand is rough for someone who does not know the command line.
Hahah.. that driver thingy is automatically installled on ubuntu, you have to just enable it
It isn't installed automatically, I think you still need an internet connection to enable it, but yeah, it is as simple as ticking a checkbox :D
To all of the Windows-users that are pissed of of Microsoft:
Try it. It's the most satifying feeling when a Windows game launched successfully in Wine without needing to change anything. To me it was a freaking dream come true.
dp vn03 yep when i got the new wolfenstine game working with Vulkan
Clayton Coffey Awesome
dp vn03 the new Doom game reportedly runs excellent in Wine, due to it being an OpenGL/Vulkan game to begin with so graphics performance is native
In fact, so far everything I through at it worked perfectly.
Newer as well as older stuff.
My average system uptime on Linux must be around 1 or 2 months.
Most packages update on the fly and don't even need to restart the machine to go active. Only when there is a Kernel update I need to reboot. The system also hardly gets unstable, I would not be able to tell a difference in performance or overall behavior on my machine when freshly rebooted or running since 3 weeks straight.
you could do ome about proton, i saw once how to play locally the gta 5 jus5 by gorzing trhow the configuration by one code line to run at dx9, witch itd actually suported.
But i dont remember what line of code it was
hello Linus, love the video but I was wondering if you'd be willing to make another this time using a compressed swap file in video memory, this will cost a few CPU Cycles but effectively make more video memory and then test in game. It has been done, but I don't believe it's been done on camera, best of luck! if you need a reference or just a starting point to understand what I'm talking about it is very similar to a zram config which is the same concept applied to regular random access memory. The swap file is placed in random access memory under compression to effectively create more RAM at the cost of a few CPU Cycles.
Linus I'm impressed, glad your giving Linux a better view
He must have actually used it finally, hence a review that matches reality.
Very good video
You shoudn't tell people to download the drivers from the Website though.On the Distros for new Users you can almost always just install them from the Driver menu.
You can also install Play on Linux via the Package Manager.
@Techquickie, you forgot to mention the plethora of free, open source games that can be found in the software repos of the Linux distros. I played tons of games before Steam came to Linux. All of them were native titles.
Please tell me were you found the list of the download Packages.
Word of caution: getting games to run on Linux can be more addictive than the games themselves. You feel like a god when you manage to get a printer to work with it over Wi-Fi.
That word of caution would only work on people who are willing to listen unfortunately.
That being said, I agree - I felt the same way when I got my [console] controllers to work as gamepads, even wirelessly whereas the other platform? Installer after another, doesn't even show up.
It was a breeze for me to get my printer work over LAN. I just plugged the printer into my router, downloaded the printer drivers and configured CUPS to send print requests to the LAN IP of my router.
Ah, that time where I wanted to install an unsupported Wifi Dongle and had to rewrite some things in the driver to get it to compile. Sadly, it didn't work. But it really was kind of addicting.
Seriously - this is a real thing. I've spent more time screwing around trying to get a particular Windows game to run on Linux than I did actually playing the game itself. Tweaking stuff is part of the fun on Linux.
Learn CUPS and that will solve most of the printer issues :)
the video we've all been waiting for!
You guys need an updated video about this.
one question - what is the multimedia API platform for linux?
that's what I thought...
Lets all switch to Linux en masse and increase Linux desktop market share more than 10%.
That would be fantastic, but people are lazy... fucking lazy donkeys who don't know that there even are some ready to use distros like Ubuntu or Mint, or SteamOS for gaming, or whatever you want according to their needs.
There is not AutoCAD for linux, i can't
+Alejandro Ysea There is FreeCAD on Linux. You can also try and get AutoCAD working using PlayOnLinux and latest Wine Staging which is currently version 3.0-rc4. Another easy way is to install VirtualBox or Gnome Boxes on Linux and then install AutoCAD in Windows VM, almost all windows software work perfectly fine on virtual machine.
Alejandro Ysea if you have a machine lying around, I would encourage you to put Linux on it to play around with. A really good RUclipsr to watch is Joe Collins, he is focused on new users and helping them get acquainted with Linux. I recommend going for Ubuntu Mate or Linux Mint, as those two distros in my experience basically come working out of the box.
I need SolidWorks for my school and i use a KVM Machine. Works flawlessly.
+Techquickie there's also a lutris.net for those who doesn't want to bother with winetricks etc
Better than PlayOnLinux and in some ways superior to Daddy Crossover!
I've found that lutris is especially useful for setting up emulators.
At my home laptop we installed win10 when it was free and we also did this on our old grandads pc so we have two copies of win10 laying around and still one copy of win7
I have a gaming rig and a laptop, on my gaming rig i have windows 10 and on my laptop i have linux, i use my laptop to work but i wanted to download a game to pass time while in break at work... it's not anything that heavy it's just Runescape. Could I Download It There And Run It No Problem?