I have te same feelings. I went from JS and Go has open my mind to explore the basics of computer science and low level concepts. Despite of garbage collector, this is quite low level language comparing to other high level languages.
no jobs tho and no ecommerce project like (medusajs/salor) no CMS(wordpress/wagtail) no full stack project like Laravel/Django... Go still lacks adoptions
@@azulamazigh2789 go has a very strong job market from what ive seen. and agreed about the lack of mature libraries, but go isnt really meant for that imo, its best used as a tool to spin up performant APIs quickly and easily
Not enough game developers using GO yet I feel... no major game engine written in GO, too much bias against a garbage collected language even though par-for-par the performance hit over C++ or Rust is negligible. But alas, you could say the same thing about C#, so Developers are going to be slow to adopt.
The compile speed of Go is super impressive, it can literally build a program in just about a second. The compiler is amazingly fast. Two things I don't like about Go is that sometimes the formatter puts a white space before the curly brace and sometimes not, it feels rather inconsistent, another thing I dislike is you cannot put functions inside a struct, you have to put them outside the struct which feels weird.
@@awesomedavid2012 I don't remember, but yeah that might be it, but in other places it does put a space before the curly, so it is weird and inconsistent.
I think that when people refer to Golang as trying to fix parallelism for Java and Cpp they are referring to it having CSP properties built in to the language as a main feature instead of delegating that to libraries later on
Go is a really nice language, but as a long time python dev some things are annoyingly verbose, and the lack of libraries, sometimes I just want a library/framework to just get things done, but the lack of that pushed me more to kotlin
Although Go's standard library is robust and covers a wide range of applications, I can understand how it may seem verbose, especially to someone used to Python. Because Go places a higher priority on control and simplicity, you frequently have to write more code yourself. For certain jobs, this works well, but for others, like web frameworks or data research, Python's environment might be far more practical. It all comes down to selecting the appropriate tool for the task!
To be honest I hate go with passion. I don't find it simple and some of decisions made by designers are puzzling me to this day like no real enums or set types, aversion of OOP concepts like asking your array how many elements it has instead of calling some external func etc. Yet the biggest issue I have with go is to refuse look at other languages to learn from their mistakes and success - yes I'm talking about null checks.
Understandable. I feel like your complains come from your background in high level languages. I also feel like some features are missing (I actually mentioned this in the video as well). Their aim was to build a really simple language, and there are tradeoffs.
I really like go. Goroutines are awesome. But as a Python enjoyer I hate that some things are so verbose for example opening a file. All those streams and buffers just overwhelm me. Maybe it's just a skill issue tho? I would also love to see some type of "implements" keyword from Java for working with interfaces. I don't how implicit it is now. That's just some opinion from a noobie 😅
great but they forgot to add explicit interfaces, optional parameters, readonly fields, default values, ternary operator, pattern matching, enums, discriminated unions. It could be a good language but it's not. No it's not like python at all, I mean the syntax. (I was a go dev)
I thought this was a fireship video from the thumbnail LOL
:)) sorry
Same! But this actually awesome.
Same lol
This video was the next one on the autoplay feature, I also thought the same thing
Me too
Learning go is the best decision I've ever made. Simplicity is underrated in the modern software
Fact!
I have te same feelings. I went from JS and Go has open my mind to explore the basics of computer science and low level concepts. Despite of garbage collector, this is quite low level language comparing to other high level languages.
I agree 100%
no jobs tho and no ecommerce project like (medusajs/salor) no CMS(wordpress/wagtail) no full stack project like Laravel/Django... Go still lacks adoptions
@@azulamazigh2789 go has a very strong job market from what ive seen. and agreed about the lack of mature libraries, but go isnt really meant for that imo, its best used as a tool to spin up performant APIs quickly and easily
My biggest problem is not being able to find a Go job. I'm stuck being "React developer".
Fair enough. It still is rather niche.
Us
Not enough game developers using GO yet I feel... no major game engine written in GO, too much bias against a garbage collected language even though par-for-par the performance hit over C++ or Rust is negligible. But alas, you could say the same thing about C#, so Developers are going to be slow to adopt.
Still has way more jobs than Rust
@@juanandresnunez658 That's not that hard to be honest :D
Awesome is now my new Fireship channel
Haha! I appreciate that - thanks!
I love Go :) it has expanded my view as a software developer immensely.
Same here!
when i first started learning Go i thought i am programming in c and python at the same time and i loved it
Haha that's a pretty accurate description.
Love this type of format, hoping that it would become a series as I would love to see Elixir in this format :)
That's the plan! Glad to hear!
I got into go this week and its pretty good so far.
Welcome! :D
The compile speed of Go is super impressive, it can literally build a program in just about a second. The compiler is amazingly fast. Two things I don't like about Go is that sometimes the formatter puts a white space before the curly brace and sometimes not, it feels rather inconsistent, another thing I dislike is you cannot put functions inside a struct, you have to put them outside the struct which feels weird.
I think it just doesn't put a space behind a curly brave if it's a struct literal like b := Burger{}
@@awesomedavid2012 I don't remember, but yeah that might be it, but in other places it does put a space before the curly, so it is weird and inconsistent.
Java absolutely had parallelism built in from day 1, that's exactly why every object has an implicit lock.
Yep.
I think that when people refer to Golang as trying to fix parallelism for Java and Cpp they are referring to it having CSP properties built in to the language as a main feature instead of delegating that to libraries later on
I seriously thought this was a video on the ancient, Chinese board game. I was really confused by the animal on the thumbnail.
😂 welcome to the dev world!
@awesome-coding thank you 😂😂
Waiting for the history of the Erlang
Good suggestion. Thanks!
Go made me love programming again. Unfortunately there's few jobs out here, but I will build what I can with it.
Lets GO!⚡️
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Great video, man, thanks for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks. Any plan on a history of Ada, Eiffel and Smalltalk by any chance? And maybe lisp and scheme as well actually?
Thanks for the suggestion! People seem to be interested in this history format, so for certain I will post more!
Glenda waves back! 🐇
😂
Where can I watch the full video of ken Thompson full interview??
I thought this was a fireship video!! haha
If Fireship and CodeBullet had a baby
This is what you get
I'm more like their adopted son from a poor eastern european country :)
I just learned some history of Go by stumbling on the hilarious debate over the pkg package 😂
More details please :D
we got Indian Fireship video before gta 6
Nice little history lesson
Glad you enjoyed it
like my balls
I'm more of a Rust fan myself.
I really enjoy go
I love go
I love Go ♥
Just let it GO
Go is a really nice language, but as a long time python dev some things are annoyingly verbose, and the lack of libraries, sometimes I just want a library/framework to just get things done, but the lack of that pushed me more to kotlin
Although Go's standard library is robust and covers a wide range of applications, I can understand how it may seem verbose, especially to someone used to Python. Because Go places a higher priority on control and simplicity, you frequently have to write more code yourself. For certain jobs, this works well, but for others, like web frameworks or data research, Python's environment might be far more practical. It all comes down to selecting the appropriate tool for the task!
@vertion well said!
Go is nice!
No mention of cross compiling?
You are right - I should have mentioned it.
Go 101🎉
To be honest I hate go with passion. I don't find it simple and some of decisions made by designers are puzzling me to this day like no real enums or set types, aversion of OOP concepts like asking your array how many elements it has instead of calling some external func etc. Yet the biggest issue I have with go is to refuse look at other languages to learn from their mistakes and success - yes I'm talking about null checks.
Understandable. I feel like your complains come from your background in high level languages. I also feel like some features are missing (I actually mentioned this in the video as well).
Their aim was to build a really simple language, and there are tradeoffs.
I really like go. Goroutines are awesome. But as a Python enjoyer I hate that some things are so verbose for example opening a file. All those streams and buffers just overwhelm me. Maybe it's just a skill issue tho?
I would also love to see some type of "implements" keyword from Java for working with interfaces. I don't how implicit it is now.
That's just some opinion from a noobie 😅
I'm on the fence with the implicit interface implementation aspect as well.
My background is in Java, end there everything is very tight :))
@awesome-coding that's exactly my feeling! Nevertheless I am happy to have Golang in my tool suite :)
great but they forgot to add explicit interfaces, optional parameters, readonly fields, default values, ternary operator, pattern matching, enums, discriminated unions. It could be a good language but it's not. No it's not like python at all, I mean the syntax. (I was a go dev)
Good video
Thank you!
@@awesome-coding Literally started me thinking of projects I could do with Go
so thats why he decided he needed nil
Nobody's perfect :D
Go is super it build for scale
Yes it is!
simplicity is smart ?
Isn’t it?
They mean to write a better c++, but instead ended up to write better java.
I would use it if it wasn't for the built in telemetry and the virtue signalling on the website a few years back
haskell when?
I would love to do more Haskell content but I'm to dumb to get a good grasp on that language :))
How does it compare to Rust?
I have some videos on Rust on the channel as well. The DX is pretty different.
G💙
But why null, whyyyy
Nobody is perfect :D
I hate javascript but javascript runs client and server side
rust is better
Rust history coming soon.
I really don't like go. Another trash online reporsitory language.
2nd view Yeaa
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3rd view 🎉🎉
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More go videos please. Such an interestingly boring language...
Hey! We love boring!
If JS, Java, and C++ are examples "interesting" languages then yeah, I love boring.
@@dejangegic Haha! I'm not gonna lie - I sometimes miss "the Java way"
balls
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Nice video
Thanks!