I have te same feelings. I went from JS and Go has open my mind to explore the basics of computer science and low level concepts. Despite of garbage collector, this is quite low level language comparing to other high level languages.
no jobs tho and no ecommerce project like (medusajs/salor) no CMS(wordpress/wagtail) no full stack project like Laravel/Django... Go still lacks adoptions
@@azulamazigh2789 go has a very strong job market from what ive seen. and agreed about the lack of mature libraries, but go isnt really meant for that imo, its best used as a tool to spin up performant APIs quickly and easily
Not enough game developers using GO yet I feel... no major game engine written in GO, too much bias against a garbage collected language even though par-for-par the performance hit over C++ or Rust is negligible. But alas, you could say the same thing about C#, so Developers are going to be slow to adopt.
The compile speed of Go is super impressive, it can literally build a program in just about a second. The compiler is amazingly fast. Two things I don't like about Go is that sometimes the formatter puts a white space before the curly brace and sometimes not, it feels rather inconsistent, another thing I dislike is you cannot put functions inside a struct, you have to put them outside the struct which feels weird.
@@awesomedavid2012 I don't remember, but yeah that might be it, but in other places it does put a space before the curly, so it is weird and inconsistent.
To be honest I hate go with passion. I don't find it simple and some of decisions made by designers are puzzling me to this day like no real enums or set types, aversion of OOP concepts like asking your array how many elements it has instead of calling some external func etc. Yet the biggest issue I have with go is to refuse look at other languages to learn from their mistakes and success - yes I'm talking about null checks.
Understandable. I feel like your complains come from your background in high level languages. I also feel like some features are missing (I actually mentioned this in the video as well). Their aim was to build a really simple language, and there are tradeoffs.
I really like go. Goroutines are awesome. But as a Python enjoyer I hate that some things are so verbose for example opening a file. All those streams and buffers just overwhelm me. Maybe it's just a skill issue tho? I would also love to see some type of "implements" keyword from Java for working with interfaces. I don't how implicit it is now. That's just some opinion from a noobie 😅
Go is a really nice language, but as a long time python dev some things are annoyingly verbose, and the lack of libraries, sometimes I just want a library/framework to just get things done, but the lack of that pushed me more to kotlin
Although Go's standard library is robust and covers a wide range of applications, I can understand how it may seem verbose, especially to someone used to Python. Because Go places a higher priority on control and simplicity, you frequently have to write more code yourself. For certain jobs, this works well, but for others, like web frameworks or data research, Python's environment might be far more practical. It all comes down to selecting the appropriate tool for the task!
well the ending proves people dont know what "systems programming" is. systems programming is just not application programming, ie backends which the user doesnt directly use
great but they forgot to add explicit interfaces, optional parameters, readonly fields, default values, ternary operator, pattern matching, enums, discriminated unions. It could be a good language but it's not. No it's not like python at all, I mean the syntax. (I was a go dev)
I think that when people refer to Golang as trying to fix parallelism for Java and Cpp they are referring to it having CSP properties built in to the language as a main feature instead of delegating that to libraries later on
Apparently they added generics in 1.18, which is seriously late for how old this language is, but my distro apparently only has 1.16 in the repos. I had to download the source and compile it from scratch to get 1.18 just to experiment with generics. My opinion, it sucks. The only language with a worse generics syntax is C, and even worse for Go is that C got generics with C11. As far as co/goroutines, I think it's the wrong solution 99% of the time. When you really need the asynchronous behavior, either the standard library should provide it, such as remote file reads and writes etc, or you should be using proper threads, which by the way, C also added in C11. Most of the time, you really shouldn't be writing your code for asynchronous operation and instead using a simple state machine or simpler state toggle.
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I thought this was a fireship video from the thumbnail LOL
:)) sorry
Same! But this actually awesome.
Same lol
This video was the next one on the autoplay feature, I also thought the same thing
Me too
Learning go is the best decision I've ever made. Simplicity is underrated in the modern software
Fact!
I have te same feelings. I went from JS and Go has open my mind to explore the basics of computer science and low level concepts. Despite of garbage collector, this is quite low level language comparing to other high level languages.
I agree 100%
no jobs tho and no ecommerce project like (medusajs/salor) no CMS(wordpress/wagtail) no full stack project like Laravel/Django... Go still lacks adoptions
@@azulamazigh2789 go has a very strong job market from what ive seen. and agreed about the lack of mature libraries, but go isnt really meant for that imo, its best used as a tool to spin up performant APIs quickly and easily
Awesome is now my new Fireship channel
Haha! I appreciate that - thanks!
My biggest problem is not being able to find a Go job. I'm stuck being "React developer".
Fair enough. It still is rather niche.
Us
Not enough game developers using GO yet I feel... no major game engine written in GO, too much bias against a garbage collected language even though par-for-par the performance hit over C++ or Rust is negligible. But alas, you could say the same thing about C#, so Developers are going to be slow to adopt.
Still has way more jobs than Rust
@@juanandresnunez658 That's not that hard to be honest :D
when i first started learning Go i thought i am programming in c and python at the same time and i loved it
Haha that's a pretty accurate description.
I love Go :) it has expanded my view as a software developer immensely.
Same here!
I seriously thought this was a video on the ancient, Chinese board game. I was really confused by the animal on the thumbnail.
😂 welcome to the dev world!
@awesome-coding thank you 😂😂
I got into go this week and its pretty good so far.
Welcome! :D
The compile speed of Go is super impressive, it can literally build a program in just about a second. The compiler is amazingly fast. Two things I don't like about Go is that sometimes the formatter puts a white space before the curly brace and sometimes not, it feels rather inconsistent, another thing I dislike is you cannot put functions inside a struct, you have to put them outside the struct which feels weird.
I think it just doesn't put a space behind a curly brave if it's a struct literal like b := Burger{}
@@awesomedavid2012 I don't remember, but yeah that might be it, but in other places it does put a space before the curly, so it is weird and inconsistent.
Love this type of format, hoping that it would become a series as I would love to see Elixir in this format :)
That's the plan! Glad to hear!
Go made me love programming again. Unfortunately there's few jobs out here, but I will build what I can with it.
Writing Go code for the last 3.5 years now. The best parts of go for me are it's error handling and simplicity.
Lets GO!⚡️
⭐⭐⭐
Waiting for the history of the Erlang
Good suggestion. Thanks!
Thanks. Any plan on a history of Ada, Eiffel and Smalltalk by any chance? And maybe lisp and scheme as well actually?
Thanks for the suggestion! People seem to be interested in this history format, so for certain I will post more!
Lisp is a beast in itself 🙂
Where can I watch the full video of ken Thompson full interview??
ruclips.net/video/sln-gJaURzk/видео.html&ab_channel=GoogleforDevelopers
Great video, man, thanks for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing video, well done. I am using Go in different project, it is very powerful
Thank you!
Excellent.
Thank you! Cheers!
GOOD MORNING
I dont know why DreamBerd isnt taking off as the new to-go language for everything
Nice little history lesson
Glad you enjoyed it
like my balls
Glenda waves back! 🐇
😂
I really enjoy go
I love Go ♥
I just learned some history of Go by stumbling on the hilarious debate over the pkg package 😂
More details please :D
I thought this was a fireship video!! haha
I love go
To be honest I hate go with passion. I don't find it simple and some of decisions made by designers are puzzling me to this day like no real enums or set types, aversion of OOP concepts like asking your array how many elements it has instead of calling some external func etc. Yet the biggest issue I have with go is to refuse look at other languages to learn from their mistakes and success - yes I'm talking about null checks.
Understandable. I feel like your complains come from your background in high level languages. I also feel like some features are missing (I actually mentioned this in the video as well).
Their aim was to build a really simple language, and there are tradeoffs.
go needs a powerful dataframe like polars in rust❤
Interesting idea. I'll explore it further :D
If Fireship and CodeBullet had a baby
This is what you get
I'm more like their adopted son from a poor eastern european country :)
I really like go. Goroutines are awesome. But as a Python enjoyer I hate that some things are so verbose for example opening a file. All those streams and buffers just overwhelm me. Maybe it's just a skill issue tho?
I would also love to see some type of "implements" keyword from Java for working with interfaces. I don't how implicit it is now.
That's just some opinion from a noobie 😅
I'm on the fence with the implicit interface implementation aspect as well.
My background is in Java, end there everything is very tight :))
@awesome-coding that's exactly my feeling! Nevertheless I am happy to have Golang in my tool suite :)
Just let it GO
I'm more of a Rust fan myself.
Rust history coming soon!
@awesome-coding Looking forward to seeing it!
Go is nice!
I'm still waiting for proper enums
🥲
Go 101🎉
we got Indian Fireship video before gta 6
Sir, I am not Indian.
@awesome-coding just kidding brother...
@@eyobtilahun2488 All good 👍
Go is a really nice language, but as a long time python dev some things are annoyingly verbose, and the lack of libraries, sometimes I just want a library/framework to just get things done, but the lack of that pushed me more to kotlin
Although Go's standard library is robust and covers a wide range of applications, I can understand how it may seem verbose, especially to someone used to Python. Because Go places a higher priority on control and simplicity, you frequently have to write more code yourself. For certain jobs, this works well, but for others, like web frameworks or data research, Python's environment might be far more practical. It all comes down to selecting the appropriate tool for the task!
@vertion well said!
❤go
make your videos Shorter ❤ that will make you more popular
Thank you for the suggestion!
Go is super it build for scale
Yes it is!
well the ending proves people dont know what "systems programming" is. systems programming is just not application programming, ie backends which the user doesnt directly use
Good video
Thank you!
@@awesome-coding Literally started me thinking of projects I could do with Go
simplicity is smart ?
Isn’t it?
1:42 this was a joke right?
No mention of cross compiling?
You are right - I should have mentioned it.
so thats why he decided he needed nil
Nobody's perfect :D
How does it compare to Rust?
I have some videos on Rust on the channel as well. The DX is pretty different.
G💙
great but they forgot to add explicit interfaces, optional parameters, readonly fields, default values, ternary operator, pattern matching, enums, discriminated unions. It could be a good language but it's not. No it's not like python at all, I mean the syntax. (I was a go dev)
Java absolutely had parallelism built in from day 1, that's exactly why every object has an implicit lock.
Yep.
I think that when people refer to Golang as trying to fix parallelism for Java and Cpp they are referring to it having CSP properties built in to the language as a main feature instead of delegating that to libraries later on
Also go doesn't run in a VM which means smaller binaries and potentially better performance
They mean to write a better c++, but instead ended up to write better java.
haskell when?
I would love to do more Haskell content but I'm to dumb to get a good grasp on that language :))
I would use it if it wasn't for the built in telemetry and the virtue signalling on the website a few years back
3rd view 🎉🎉
🎉
But why null, whyyyy
Nobody is perfect :D
thumbnail copiers are all lame
":)) sorry" into the bin with you
please no!
2nd view Yeaa
✌️
Apparently they added generics in 1.18, which is seriously late for how old this language is, but my distro apparently only has 1.16 in the repos. I had to download the source and compile it from scratch to get 1.18 just to experiment with generics. My opinion, it sucks. The only language with a worse generics syntax is C, and even worse for Go is that C got generics with C11. As far as co/goroutines, I think it's the wrong solution 99% of the time. When you really need the asynchronous behavior, either the standard library should provide it, such as remote file reads and writes etc, or you should be using proper threads, which by the way, C also added in C11. Most of the time, you really shouldn't be writing your code for asynchronous operation and instead using a simple state machine or simpler state toggle.
Docs design is UI poor imho.
Fair. It's clearly far behind some of the docs web frameworks are offering for instance.
I really don't like go. Another trash online reporsitory language.
Fireship bad copy
Thanks!
balls
✌️
rust is better
Rust history coming soon.
More go videos please. Such an interestingly boring language...
Hey! We love boring!
If JS, Java, and C++ are examples "interesting" languages then yeah, I love boring.
@@dejangegic Haha! I'm not gonna lie - I sometimes miss "the Java way"
I hate javascript but javascript runs client and server side
I like js😅
Nice video
Thanks!