The s8 has a cool feature where it lifts the mop but in my opinion the negatives outweigh the positives with the roborock brand. For starters, leaving the mop area wet is just disgusting and leads to smells coming from it.
@@michaelhinchey that's not new for the S8 though. The S7 MaxV, S7, and maybe even S6 did that too. I agree with the smell, though the Ultra dock is just so darn expensive
One thing that’s not in this review - and I don’t know how you’d include this - is the reliability of the software and how good their support is. For example: I used to have an Ecovacs T8 Ozmo AIVI and it forgot the map constantly, even when nothing changed. They broke all integrations with third party software when they switched over cloud systems and some are still broken. Then, the unit itself broke and didn’t turn on anymore. Nothing worked. Support was no help. Reading the r/ecovacs subreddit I’m not the only one. Tons of people have faulty units after a year of usage with support just straight up not helping and tons of people having really bad experiences with the software. I now have a Roborock instead and it’s night and day. It’s incredible how much more stable and higher quality everything is from software to hardware.
same situation with me, i bought 2 ecovacs T8+ AIVI's and completely regret it. constantly needs to redo the map like 50% of the time its started, which basically makes it borderline useless
Interesting, thanks for sharing as the T20 isn't available in New Zealand. In my opinion, the auto-mop lifting is the decisive factor for most people, at least here where most homes have a mixture of floor types.
I have been following your videos for ages and love your work and content. Just one request, could you be please add metric measurements (m2, square meters for exemple) in future videos? Either way, great work.
Can't wait for your review for the new ecovacs T20 and I think it's gonna be the best robot vacuum with 6000pa with a lifting mop to 9mm and a hot water mopping
Xiaomi X10+ has all the features of the l10s ultra just a little weaker suction power and no camera surveillance. otherwise it is the exact same model. And its cost only 800 dollar.
Love your videos! One thing I'm curious about with all the robot vacuums is noise level. I don't think that's something you cover, but maybe I missed it. I would love to know how loud they are. As someone who works from home I would hate for it to be so loud that it could be heard during meetings. I don't expect total silence since it IS a vacuum, but would love to know how loud they are :)
Great review, Ecovacs also has come out with two other new bots and I have both of them, there's the T9 Plus which I think has been out for a while but for some reason Ecovacs did not release it in the United States until now. The T9 Plus has some nice upgrades compared to the T8 Plus which is also a great robot. The other new robot is the N10 Plus, if you don't need object avoidance, this robot is also excellent. If you get the chance, definitely check out these two, I think you will be glad you did.
I've had the Ecovacs T8 AIVI for a couple of years now. I would not buy another from them. The software is still buggy! You send it to a specific room and it goes to a completely different room! You can see it on the map. The room you selected and the Deebot off working in the wrong one! It get's stuck all the time. Sometimes in the exact same spot over and over. You put it back in the dock and after a bit it's stuck right where it was before. It looses the map often and has to be redone. The mapping functions are also buggy. Trying to split an area into two rooms becomes difficult. They also use the notification function to spam you with advertisements. All in all, I wouldn't call it in any way intelligent and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
when I open the ecovac app they have full screen ads linking to their new robots. this is after ive spent $2k+ for two of them. its so bad, never buying an ecovac again
My narwal t10, which is admittedly a dinosaur nowadays compared to some of the newer mop bots, still doesn't amazing job on floors despite it not having a built in water tank. I think the disadvantage of not having a water tank is actually somewhat beneficial because it just means it has to go clean the mop more. This would obviously be a downside if I had a floor layout with rooms that need deep cleaning far away from the wash base. Less mechanical complexity on both the robot and the wash base though. I just wish the ecovacs had lifting mops, that's kind of a let down
Ecovacs base features are good. However it is a premium priced product with trashy software, bad mapping and "memory" between cleaning runs. I highly emphatically do not recommend anyone to waste money on an Ecovacs product. I did and had to write it off and buy a top of the line Roborock a year later which absolutely destroys the Ecovacs. Beyond software, the Ecovacs T9 auto destroys itself, so I have to keep buying 100usd parts for it every 5 months.
I have a X1 Omni and so far everything is working great. It hasn't forgotten the map and does the cleaning as per my preferred preference set in the app. I just empty out the dirty water and refill the clean water tanks. Rest it takes care of everything, Although I strongly agree that they definitely have room for improvement on the app.
You know I can't let this one go. I've had 2 different X1 Omnis and they have both had terrible navigation. As an example, it started ramming into the fireplace hearth in a well-lighted room and it just kept on ramming. It had no idea it had encountered an immovable object. To add insult to injury, every time I picked it up and moved it to a new spot, it went right back to the hearth and continued ramming. The other day, it could not manage to park itself on the dock even though it was half on, half off. It said "clean the sensors", but they were spotless. As often as not, it cannot complete a cleaning run without human intervention. And that it cannot do both carpeting and hard surfaces in the same run is a pretty big con.
i own a ecovacs T8... on forums about 90% of people are happy with them. but i agree 100%, their robot is 10/10, the software/firmware is 4/10. Its hit or miss. thats way ecovacs just replace your robot if there is a problem. They probably know it too.
@@1nicube They did replace it, so no complaints about customer service. And this is why I have had experience with 2 of them. The 2nd is better than the first, but neither of them navigates as well as a different brand which I am specifically not naming so people won't think I'm a shill for that brand.
I have a X1 OMNI, and no issues whatsoever with object avoidance and mapping. It has docked in its dock every single time with no intervention. I always turn on when I am away and always get a clean house.
I buyed today the xiaomi x10+. Because its a cheaper version of the dreame l10s ultra. instead of 5300 pa it only has 4000 pa and no camera monitoring via app. Otherwise it is exactly the same model. But the price difference of 200 dollars is still not worth it. And the best thing is it is even made by Dreame. I wanted to buy the Ecovacs first, but he can't lift his mops, which I find kind of stupid. I can only recommend him.
I feel like the quality of the reviews has dropped in favor of brevity. The way the reviews are structured and presented now makes it so much more difficult to actually compare different types of robot vacuums together. Simply using adjectives instead of data and numbers to describe the performance makes the comparisons arbitrary. Yes, they’re all good, but which is the best, by how much and in what areas. I dont think most average consumers tend to watch a lot of robot vacuum or vacuum reviews. The people who do are those that care about this stuff for one or another reason. And those people tend to care about accuracy, actionable and clear comparisons and transparency.
DO NOT BUY! *Coming up to 9 months and robot is repeatedly failing with various different faults. *When you send it away they demand you buy a box yourself and pay to post it yourself - but then if they believe anything is "damaged in transit" they are no longer responsible... Do not buy - company is a con artist.
Ecovacs Deebot T10 OMNI at Amazon: geni.us/qoP9b7k
You know we’re all waiting for the S8. When can we expect it?? Love your reviews!
Oh thank you! Soon, we hope!
@@VacuumWarshere's also hoping the S8/S8+ plus get some attention with the ultra!
We got it! Come back tomorrow at 4PM EST for that review!
The s8 has a cool feature where it lifts the mop but in my opinion the negatives outweigh the positives with the roborock brand. For starters, leaving the mop area wet is just disgusting and leads to smells coming from it.
@@michaelhinchey that's not new for the S8 though. The S7 MaxV, S7, and maybe even S6 did that too. I agree with the smell, though the Ultra dock is just so darn expensive
I’m waiting for the new BISSELL revolution hydro steam. The cross wave and the shampooer. You have the best reviews..
S8 Pro Ultra is available now!
We got it! Review drops tomorrow!
@@VacuumWars I saw!
One thing that’s not in this review - and I don’t know how you’d include this - is the reliability of the software and how good their support is.
For example:
I used to have an Ecovacs T8 Ozmo AIVI and it forgot the map constantly, even when nothing changed.
They broke all integrations with third party software when they switched over cloud systems and some are still broken.
Then, the unit itself broke and didn’t turn on anymore. Nothing worked. Support was no help.
Reading the r/ecovacs subreddit I’m not the only one. Tons of people have faulty units after a year of usage with support just straight up not helping and tons of people having really bad experiences with the software.
I now have a Roborock instead and it’s night and day. It’s incredible how much more stable and higher quality everything is from software to hardware.
same situation with me, i bought 2 ecovacs T8+ AIVI's and completely regret it. constantly needs to redo the map like 50% of the time its started, which basically makes it borderline useless
Interesting, thanks for sharing as the T20 isn't available in New Zealand. In my opinion, the auto-mop lifting is the decisive factor for most people, at least here where most homes have a mixture of floor types.
But roborock leaves there pads wet.. Thats a deal breaker.
I have been following your videos for ages and love your work and content. Just one request, could you be please add metric measurements (m2, square meters for exemple) in future videos? Either way, great work.
Can't wait for your review for the new ecovacs T20 and I think it's gonna be the best robot vacuum with 6000pa with a lifting mop to 9mm and a hot water mopping
I just bought the x1 omni this week on sale for half price but my next upgrade definitely the t20 omni
Just want to mention, the L10s Ultra is only +$100, has on onboard tank, lifts the mops, etc, etc.
Obstacle avoidance on it sucks tho, it’s why I went with the Omni
Xiaomi X10+ has all the features of the l10s ultra just a little weaker suction power and no camera surveillance. otherwise it is the exact same model. And its cost only 800 dollar.
lol it suck , t10 still better quality
I really think you should diversify and start reviewing robot lawn mowers! It's the next thing to get robo-ized
This is a great Idea. I would love a lawn mower robot, Seems like the newer GPS guided ones are pretty good
Great video! I can't wait for your Roborock S8 content
Come back tomorrow at 4PM EST for the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra review!
Love your videos! One thing I'm curious about with all the robot vacuums is noise level. I don't think that's something you cover, but maybe I missed it. I would love to know how loud they are. As someone who works from home I would hate for it to be so loud that it could be heard during meetings. I don't expect total silence since it IS a vacuum, but would love to know how loud they are :)
Thank you for mentioning that it has a camera. One feature that interests me a lot, is if the camera is accessible remotely.
Yes it is. You have camera mode and can drive it around the house and record footage.
@zaraman0077 yes it can do.
Great review, Ecovacs also has come out with two other new bots and I have both of them, there's the T9 Plus which I think has been out for a while but for some reason Ecovacs did not release it in the United States until now. The T9 Plus has some nice upgrades compared to the T8 Plus which is also a great robot. The other new robot is the N10 Plus, if you don't need object avoidance, this robot is also excellent. If you get the chance, definitely check out these two, I think you will be glad you did.
Thanks!
When are we getting the s8 pro ultra review?
Soon we hope!!!
We got it! Come back tomorrow at 4PM EST for that review!
Should test the obstacle avoidance in low light since there is no front laser build in should not be able to see as compare to X1
Love this every week.
thanks :)
this vs roborock S8 Pro Ultra mop test, please
Interesting matchup! noted, and thanks!
Would love to see a video on the Dreametech W10 robot mop/vacuum. Thanks for the thorough reviews!
When are you going to review the new Deebot T20?
It’s me again, your #1 fan :)
Awesome!
Please, test Mach V1 ultra
When are you gonna the Roborock 8S Max Ultra ?
Waiting for a robot vacuum with a bagless station.
In the future, do you think you could add a long hair test and talk about the noise level and show the underside of each vacuum please ?
Love your vids love if you can make a video abt the cleaning solutions if it works.. and if brand name is better then generic
I've had the Ecovacs T8 AIVI for a couple of years now. I would not buy another from them. The software is still buggy! You send it to a specific room and it goes to a completely different room! You can see it on the map. The room you selected and the Deebot off working in the wrong one! It get's stuck all the time. Sometimes in the exact same spot over and over. You put it back in the dock and after a bit it's stuck right where it was before. It looses the map often and has to be redone. The mapping functions are also buggy. Trying to split an area into two rooms becomes difficult. They also use the notification function to spam you with advertisements. All in all, I wouldn't call it in any way intelligent and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
when I open the ecovac app they have full screen ads linking to their new robots. this is after ive spent $2k+ for two of them. its so bad, never buying an ecovac again
This being more a 2in1 unit... Would you recommend this over, lets say the roomba i3 vacuum and Braava m6 mop combo?
The only channel I am waiting that put out the S8 review
Hopefully soon!!
We got it! Come back tomorrow at 4PM EST for that review!
Can you do a review on the Ecovacs T20 omni? Thank you! 😊
stay tuned!
This thing gets stuck on all my carpets where our T8 has 0 issues.
Are you sure it doesn’t lift the mops because the ad I just saw for this bot says it does… might want to verify. Love your channel!!!
My mistake: That was the T20. Carry on… 😂
There are just way too many robots 😂 I can't keep up ahah
We're trying!!
Can you review the BISSELL Revolution HydroSteam Pet Carpet Cleaner soon?
Love you videos, keep up the awesome work!
Hi there. Are you going to do a review of the T20 omni sometime soon? I can't wait for it if you do. Thanks in advance.
We are hoping to have that in a few weeks.
@@VacuumWars can't wait... 👍
Have you tried using car products instead of water? Maybe put a cleaner that will also give protection on the floor. Just an idea.
Also a request about the obstacles test: can you let some usb cables free on the floor? I swear my D7 loves them!
Hey thanks for the video super helpful. Are you planning to have a review on the T20 and how compare to x1 or T10
Not being able to transition to carpet with the mops is an instant deal breaker. Plus, their software in general is a major deal breaker.
My narwal t10, which is admittedly a dinosaur nowadays compared to some of the newer mop bots, still doesn't amazing job on floors despite it not having a built in water tank. I think the disadvantage of not having a water tank is actually somewhat beneficial because it just means it has to go clean the mop more.
This would obviously be a downside if I had a floor layout with rooms that need deep cleaning far away from the wash base.
Less mechanical complexity on both the robot and the wash base though. I just wish the ecovacs had lifting mops, that's kind of a let down
When's the next battle of the robot vacuums?? My kids are getting old enough where I think they won't try to tackle it or kick it.
Could you do a review of the bissell revolution hydrosteam
Does this vacuum bump into walls and furniture often?
I’m interested. In this video is see them selling used on eBay and wondering if this is a good vac or the robotics ultra
Deebot t10 or dreame ls10 pro?
Ecovacs base features are good. However it is a premium priced product with trashy software, bad mapping and "memory" between cleaning runs. I highly emphatically do not recommend anyone to waste money on an Ecovacs product. I did and had to write it off and buy a top of the line Roborock a year later which absolutely destroys the Ecovacs. Beyond software, the Ecovacs T9 auto destroys itself, so I have to keep buying 100usd parts for it every 5 months.
I have a X1 Omni and so far everything is working great. It hasn't forgotten the map and does the cleaning as per my preferred preference set in the app. I just empty out the dirty water and refill the clean water tanks. Rest it takes care of everything, Although I strongly agree that they definitely have room for improvement on the app.
Wasn't it a bit too late for the t10? There is the t20 already around.
Not going back to the station. turbo x1
What was the final score?
When are you going to compare the shark air purifiers with your new tests?
Oh wow. We have some Shark models to test but our schedule isn't firm. Thanks for asking and we hope it's sooner than later.
Well the T20 has mop lifting know. They heard you.
Hi why dont you review LG homebot ?
I have the T10 OMNI but mine is in chinese - can I change this? The T20 is out now and it can be plumbed into the water system and sewage system.
I think the T20 has the lifting mop pads. I paid $300 for the T10 OMNI by the way. (I live in china!)
Maybe the T20 that can be plummed into the water system is only here in china.
You know I can't let this one go. I've had 2 different X1 Omnis and they have both had terrible navigation. As an example, it started ramming into the fireplace hearth in a well-lighted room and it just kept on ramming. It had no idea it had encountered an immovable object. To add insult to injury, every time I picked it up and moved it to a new spot, it went right back to the hearth and continued ramming. The other day, it could not manage to park itself on the dock even though it was half on, half off. It said "clean the sensors", but they were spotless. As often as not, it cannot complete a cleaning run without human intervention. And that it cannot do both carpeting and hard surfaces in the same run is a pretty big con.
i own a ecovacs T8... on forums about 90% of people are happy with them. but i agree 100%, their robot is 10/10, the software/firmware is 4/10. Its hit or miss. thats way ecovacs just replace your robot if there is a problem. They probably know it too.
@@1nicube They did replace it, so no complaints about customer service. And this is why I have had experience with 2 of them. The 2nd is better than the first, but neither of them navigates as well as a different brand which I am specifically not naming so people won't think I'm a shill for that brand.
@@arevee9429 yeah, there lidar isnt that precise. Thats why it is huge pixel in the app instead of fine line like other manufacturer 🤷♂️
I have a X1 OMNI, and no issues whatsoever with object avoidance and mapping. It has docked in its dock every single time with no intervention. I always turn on when I am away and always get a clean house.
@@matrix0683 Lucky you!
I buyed today the xiaomi x10+. Because its a cheaper version of the dreame l10s ultra. instead of 5300 pa it only has 4000 pa and no camera monitoring via app. Otherwise it is exactly the same model. But the price difference of 200 dollars is still not worth it. And the best thing is it is even made by Dreame. I wanted to buy the Ecovacs first, but he can't lift his mops, which I find kind of stupid. I can only recommend him.
anyone know the price?
I would rather go for the X1 Turbo than the t10 OMNI :/ I don't really care about the dust bin. With my neato D7 I already clean it once in a week.
I feel like the quality of the reviews has dropped in favor of brevity. The way the reviews are structured and presented now makes it so much more difficult to actually compare different types of robot vacuums together.
Simply using adjectives instead of data and numbers to describe the performance makes the comparisons arbitrary. Yes, they’re all good, but which is the best, by how much and in what areas.
I dont think most average consumers tend to watch a lot of robot vacuum or vacuum reviews. The people who do are those that care about this stuff for one or another reason. And those people tend to care about accuracy, actionable and clear comparisons and transparency.
Feedback received! Thank you!
DO NOT BUY!
*Coming up to 9 months and robot is repeatedly failing with various different faults.
*When you send it away they demand you buy a box yourself and pay to post it yourself - but then if they believe anything is "damaged in transit" they are no longer responsible...
Do not buy - company is a con artist.
A brand i wont trust anymorr
Cannot recommend this brand. Save a bit longer for a roborock.